I served in the U.S. Navy in the early 1970s. I can tell you that this is very different from what I experienced. I'd like to make 3 points. 1) I can't believe that no one on that ship knew to turn the gun in heavy seas in order to protect it from waves coming over the bow.. 2) Was there no redundancy backup for the sonar? For the sonar to go down while tracking an enemy submarine is unpardonable. 3) There were huge areas of rust on the focs'l. On every ship I was on, the bos'n mates would have been working around the clock to remove the rust and put on a fresh coat of paint. Every old chief bos'n mate I ever met would have his men working non-stop if he even saw one speck of rust. They would have had cardiac arrest if they had seen that much rust. I really enjoy these videos about the British Navy, but it was very different when I was in. (Yeah, I know I sound like an old man saying, "Well, back in my day....) :)
I'm an ex-Coast Guard GM who sailed on a 327' high endurance cutter with a 5"/38 gun and full anti-submarine capabilities. Your assessment is spot-on accurate. This would have never happened with our old girl whose keel was laid in 1939. How in the f___k does something like that occur on a modern warship? And I just don't get how a vessel could have a design where any seawater ingress in the gun handling compartments could in any way enter the common spaces of the vessel. Should be totally segregated only be able to enter the upper handling room, where it would have its own dewatering system. If water can transverse between the gun handing spaces and the common spaces, then so can rapidly expanding gasses from an ammunition casualty....serious design flaw that could sink the ship. I could also do without the faux drama of a water-induced electrical spark setting off ammunition in the gun handling area...ain't gonna happen.
I’m Army but I sailed on the USS Anchorage in 95. First Woman on board..and I am Canadian. Every sailor was respectful and asked me a million questions. I had galley duty…wasn’t bad… better than scrubbing pots in the snow 🤣 . My hubby was a deck ape,now a clearance Diver Chief PO. But yes,…he complained constantly of painting the ship. I said he was a baby…3 hots n a cot….spoiled 😆🫡
First things I noticed also, I'm just a metal fabricator with no naval experience. I do run a massive operation though and understand the importance of redundancy in critical systems, and preparation ahead known weather events, like parking your trucks and equipment inside before a snowstorm or hail event.
Not a big confidence builder here. Equipment failures and some crew who lack motivation. Yet thank you for serving UK men and women. Appreciate your service to country and peace. 🌊
Seriously it is like that in every service and every countries services. People join for multitude of reasons and attitudes are based on perspective, home life, boredom and so many little things. The newer are the most egger yet have the most anxieties about the unknowns. While the older last trip and I'm out crew are, the "been here done it got that check mark, just kick the tires I'm off next time in port" are less motivated. If you have ever deployed you know that last few weeks before going home, fights break out, restlessness, complacency is a killer.
The leak at the gun barrels rubber gasket was odd. They could have just turned the gun turret 170 degrees and having the back of the turret take the sea spray .
@@bobtate6812 Lilliput and Blefuscu are two fictional island nations that appear in the first part of the 1726 novel Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift. The two islands are neighbours in the South Indian Ocean, separated by a channel 800 yards (730 m) wide. Both are inhabited by tiny people who are about one-twelfth the height of ordinary human beings. Both are empires, i.e. realms ruled by an emperor. The capital of Lilliput is Mildendo. In some pictures, the islands are arranged like an egg, as a reference to their egg-dominated histories and cultures.[citation needed]
I found our Officer trainees (3rd year Academy students) that were assigned to us over summers was a great experience. I think for everyone. I was a CW4 and UH-60 Instructor/Examiner, and I made it a point to involve ours in almost everything possible. They were appreciative and helpful it made them better Officers and leaders
We took Middies with us on some patrols on our Submarine in the summers. After a few days it was easy to tell who were going to be good Officers and who weren't. They were usually the 'Ring Knockers' .
Whimpering him who’s come and gives gifts of blessings to those to come to him why not don’t we just dear Jesus lord of kings of all earthly given names welcome king of the clashing of our lions a.k.a lionesses
Old stories sung by English people to discredit other nations. However, their ancestors were much more DISGUSTED of colonizing other nations in the past.
yeah cant wait for Emma from London with James the penguin vs Vladimir from Novosibirsk who is used to eating tree bark for breakfast and wrestling bears.
Been there done that in the North Atlantic 1967-68 tracking Russian submarines aboard a Destroyer Escort. We sonar pinged them for days with our pings bouncing back inside our hull driving us nut's alongside the Russians.They finally surfaced next to us and we greeted them with a three finger salute !
I find it appalling that they failed so miserably in finding and stopping the water Ingress. My dad and my uncle were both navy. They both said that it is very important to keep all the bunks dry at all times. That means you keep the ocean out no matter what happens with the weather .
to be fair Northumberland is 30+ years old. She should have been de-commed years ago, but modern politicians don't care about the RN, RAF, Army, until it's too late.
@@LumaLabs Even 1 degree would make a difference; to not turn it at all is very strange. Almost makes me feel it was staged. You'd think they would have a spare seal too but at least they got their Amazon Prime deliveries.
Nope your dead wrong he’s upset very very upset God likes it when we fight his impending truth to end all civilizations from recreating a more oh life’s to breath a.k.a live
The Umberland’s seaworthiness is a joke… can we pause for a moment we have a slight leak. Oh yeah and our gun doesn’t work. Aside from that we’re good.
All that history of naval dominance and this is who they are now. That looked more like a cruise ship instead of a warship. Admiral Nelson would be pissed.
I'm no sailor, but I thought with as many centuries experience about naval warfare, they would have figured out how to make ships more watertight and perhaps even have some pumps for the water instead of buckets.
The state of readiness of this warship leaves much to be desired. This is not a white glove cruise to show the flag at Singapore, in the early 1930's. The Northumberland is going after a Russian nuclear sub, in North Atlantic and Arctic waters. She has no escort with her, either. The commander of this vessel, and the Royal Navy itself, have some soul-searching to do.
On my mom's side of the family, they have been mariners as far back as the 1600's. My mom and I crossed the Atlantic on a merchant vessel when I was 4 years old. I love boats and I never get seasick. Just looking at them walking below decks puts me in a different state of mind. I need to watch more videos like this.
Actually labling decks, corridors and bulkheads is controversial, as having those directions available in a wreak where salvage by the enemy could be made easier if something top secret was aboard. It's also thought that knowing your ship without signs pointing out where you are and are going means that if attacked and dealing with fire, smoke or flooding, a ship that is listing or capsized, one would still know where one was. Most smaller Naval shops opt to not label directions while the city sized air craft carriers have to be marked out as memorizing the ship would reach a point of no return because of storage and other areas that are rarely visited to be recognized, and in larger ships spaces can be reconfigured even while underway and become unrecognizable in only a few days.
A warship that floods to the point of risking an explosion. A main gun rendered inoperative because of the elements it was conceived to work amidst. A post-pubescent junior sailor that looks like she would be ill-fitted even for a children daycare. A sonar system that goes kaput at the most crucial of times. Suddenly, all the Russian armed forces incompetence and clowning don't seem so egregious anymore.
Yep, as a laymen I was still surprised that as many centuries experience of having a navy, they haven't figured out how to make ships watertight during storms yet. And buckets instead of pumps reminds me of having to use water bottles for heating in London hotel when I was a kid. Felt like kind of ancient tech by then already.
I’ll give a pass on the junior sailor, everyone needs a start and nobody is perfect out of the gate, the rest of the issues, yes it’s pretty bad the level of incompetency
unfortunately vladmir's t-55's rusted commanders hatch got hit by a drone-mounted anti-tank grenade, so he won't be joining us for this one@@valyshknee4203
Imagine, the current Royal Navy barely mans 70 vessels, in WW2, with a fraction of the population, they had 430+ massive vessels plus about 1/3 of the world’s merchant marine!
@@dfinlen I agree, it also wouldn't make sense to have a massive navy, it's all about alliances now, the US-UK alliance is not going to go away anytime soon.
6:15 Nothing like a woman's touch. I think she'll be fine on the ship. In the early 70's my ship made a trip to the Arctic Circle to chase after Russian subs. They were fairly easy to follow because they were so noisy; I was the lead sonarman so it was quite an experience to track them. Maybe the new Russian subs are quieter.
She's supposed to be an officer, then she asked a crewman "What does that do?" What happened to England's navy? Y'all had the best navy in the world, and now you have officers asking what part of the ship is for.
@@VinceBucy Not a knowledgeable person about boats, myself, but I used to work at a sail maker's loft, sewing spinnakers, and met a huge worldwide community of boat people, and all of them, all to a man and woman, said the main thing about a sailor that sets them apart from any other branch of the military, is that every sailor has to have knowledge of everything that's on the ship they're on. Like the ship is a living thing, with all these people who make up it's parts. So she of the many questions made me wonder.
The big seas were the fun and relaxing part of my many years at sea but I can honestly say I never had to worry about the ship flooding, maybe need to consider retiring this bugger and replacing it with something a tad more seaworthy or at least waterproof. I would do another deployment in a heartbeat no matter how long
We had to RAS during my time in the RN sometimes during an exercise at night in " darken ship" routine ( no lights except on each lifejacket) and a thin line of coloured lights between the bows for the bridge to judge if we were closing up
The unspoken part to all this, great documentary by the way, is how did the Northumberland know where to look to begin with? SOSUS or an Astute class lurking? Maybe an Los Angeles class trailing? (All the above) The surface warship tells the Russian "We know you are there" while the true threat to the Russian is right in behind it.
It isn't clear from the description or title, but these are episodes of a documentary series. This is the 2nd episode I've seen - the first episode is on their channel now and was posted last week. I imagine the next installment/continuation of the story will be next week.
@@danielwaynemiller it's a documentary behind the scenes of another documentary that was aired a while ago. The mission was aborted when the sub damaged her towed array, rendering the deep listening sonar inoperative and requiring replacement in port. Some speculated that it was intentional, but the array is basically a long cable with microphones, silent and two miles long. So, a wee bit hard to find, let alone hit and a big risk of fouling the screws on a submarine, leaving them immobile.
Sonar working again hey. Thanks for showing us the radar screen. BTW, the towed array is passive and does not search in a circle, it's a listening device.
Really good documentary! The thing to remember here is that this is dramatized to keep people interested and it’s not as hair raising as it may seem. I was a submarine sailor on the USS Richard B Russell SSN 687 fast attack submarine and U.S. subs are very hard to find, we did exercises with surface ships and we always got them before they found us.
The Captain of the Northumberland should have known the capabilities of the Russian sub's tactical towed sonar array. To allow the ship to get within 7000m of the sub and not follow it's every change of direction and separation distance goes to demonstrate how inexperienced the Captain was. That 20 year old sonar operator should have been better trained to focus on the subs every move. This is a real eye opener.
The Brits sure don't threaten much on the ocean like they used to. I'm sure the Russians aren't worried about you tracking them since you wouldnt dare fire a cannon.
@@valyshknee4203 Ivan can wrestle bears all he wants, but meanwhile he also can't read and distinguish the 'shoot' and 'self-destruct' buttons. And because he's a Siberian minority, good chance he's pressed into service by uncle Vladimir, and because of this he hates every officer and NCO of his navy. My money's still on the penguin and the kids 🎉
Why are pictures just hanging on the wall and loose items around the place? On my narrowboat everything is screwed to the wall. I also keep on top of the rust and have multiple layers of redundancy in my systems. What I've seen here doesn't fill me with confidence in the RN
A Royal Navy source referred to the North Atlantic collision as "unfortunate", followed by an official statement from the Ministry of Defence. The source said: "In late 2020 a Russian submarine being tracked by HMS Northumberland came into contact with her towed array sonar. You can´t make this up at all hilarious :)
USMC veteran (1974-1980) offering some observations here. This video left me deeply concerned about our old ally, the Brits. That vessel is simply not squared away. Unmilitary bearing and attitudes seem to be the rule. Ladies carrying on like they're running a cruise ship. And the rust! I was shocked by the condition of the ship. Just intolerable. The military in general is declining along with our civilization rather than setting an example and maintaining standards. Where are Lord Nelson and Jacky Fisher? I hope our old friends can find another one somewhere and promote him to the top.
If you think about it why would they put this on you tube. What should have happen is they didn't lose track of the Russian sub. They made it like they had a malfunction in the sonar and they lost the sub. Because that would be top secret. So if that is infact what happen then they did the right thing. They put on a good show and ended it with hardware failure of the sonar and ended it there.
Olivia, sorry I can't do anything more. I just need to lay here.........FOR SEASICKNESS!!!!!!! REALLY!!!!!!!! LIABILITY!!!!!!!!!! You would get LAUGHED out of the USN asking for Sea Sickness medication!
So what's a sealed operating pump going to look like on the viewer's screen, just humming away? Boring! The same with a bunch of other things people here are bitching about. This is an edited documentary by film makers. This is how they typically stitch together days worth of random footage.
Unless they completely strip the gunmount and remove the salt that gunmount is going to be trashed. Our mounts are able to be rotated facing aft to alleviate this from happening.
Walking around, shooting the breeze with the crew.....that is TERRIBLE leadership. The Captain of a ship is a man apart, a man alone. He does not have friends on board, he has subordinates who must be ready to obey his orders without question, instantly. Trying to be their friend does not command that type of respect, it makes you look WEAK!
Ex navy (not British, but experienced with Arctic operations), and I have to say there are a few things in this video that are really quite concerning, especially if they reflect the overall state of seamanship and hardware of the Royal Navy.
I find it surprising that the critical equipment wasn't configured as n+1 so thier no single point of failure at the card level. Then if heat is a issue on the board level then Close Coupled Cooling should have been implemented or liquid cooling the backplane of the electronic or at the card level. Next im surprised the gasket around the deck gun appears to be just a single layer and as the ship spends all it time outdoors the sunlight will degrade over time all rubberised material. I see lots of lesson levered from this video. As another viewer mentioned why weren't the deck and walkways given names to help anyone navigate the ship.
Making your living space much more like home by putting a bunch of stuff out that could impede the crews ability to fight a fire or flooding in that space. That stupid stuffed animal, will clog a pump. A string of lights could get tangled around equipment or the feet of damage control personal. WERE IS THE DISCIPLINE!!!!!!! WHERE IS THE EMOTIONAL MATURITY!!!!!!!
according to the graphic most telecom traffic from the UK to North America is not through the Arctic Circle. I doubt that line cuts within the Arctic Circle will effect telecom traffic that much.
As one of the first women on a US Navy oiler in 1988, that idiotic junior officer decorating with unregulated green lights and a stuffed animal made me sick and embarrassed!
Can feel for the Bridge crew calling a pod of dolphins as a possible periscope - long ago in the Pacific while flying off a US Frigate - I caught a radar pop-up on my screen - we flew 60+ miles to ID the small 10 knot target - a knot of 50 gallon barrels and a pipe being moved by the current .
last but not least, check with the ship's Chief Electrician and see what the options are to shut down electricity near the ordnance, to minimize risk of short circuits and fire near the ordnance lockers.
In spoken English it has become common usage to use “further” for distance, so it is acceptable. The English language keeps evolving. Unless you insist on taking a prescriptive approach to English grammar and usage.
@@alanb8836 "Prescriptive approach"???🤣 "The English language keeps evolving!🤣 Correction: The English language isn't evolving! It is being corrupted and perverted by linguistically incompetent wannabes, like you! And why use the language in its pristine and purest form. If not, the future generation my finds itself communicating with four letter words!
They do have a bow sonar but what you are seeing is a towed array sonar. They are much more capable than the bow mounted sonars because they can literally be stringed out for more than a mile. All along that array there will be hydrophones, making them very sensitive to noise in the ocean. The Burkes have both a bow mounted sonar, the AN/SQS-53C as well as the AN/SQR-19 towed array sonar. The towed sonar array is much better at detecting submarines than the bow sonar.
Smart Captain. I don’t know how the Navy life is but all great leaders constantly keep an eye on everyone. Never know when someone is struggling mentally or not doing a job. Just smart to be on top of everything you can. He’s a real leader
I guess I am just an ancient mariner having entered the Navy in '57 just after "rocks & shoals" was discarded, but I contend that there is no place for a female to serve on a "man of war" ship of the line. I served on diesel subs, FBM subs & as electronics technician in the Naval Air branch. I retired after 20 years' service ending during the cold war.
She's a trainee - if you know anything about trainees, it's the ones who ask ZERO questions are the ones that you should worry about. Asking questions is normal if you know nothing, it's a strength, not a weakness. It's how you learn and everyone needs to always learn.
She is learning her crews tone. Imagine your crews tone was fast laced with alot of info. In a split second the Officer has to decipher that dialect and determine the level of response
Yes. Countries the world over rely on a huge network of undersea cables. Most of these are publicly documented because the last thing you want is someone dragging an anchor or a net over one. None the less, they all break on a regular basis and data are routed through different cables (as the internet is designed to do) until they're fixed. The whole cable thing appears to be much ado about little; Russia won't be cutting cables during peacetime because it's ineffective at doing anything but annoying the countries that use those cables.
They needed a script to sell to the media crew. The Russians were probably having a afternoon snooze the whole time British teenagers were mopping the floor & punching the instruments
We used to go up to the Bering Sea underwater. It's much smoother. What happened to their sonar array mounted on the ship hull.? They surely must have more than a towed array sonar.? And it's got a helicopter than can "sonar dip." 😉
