BROOKS CASCADIA 16 REVIEW | The Ginger Runner

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The Brooks Cascadia 16 is the best Cascadia yet and is the first that I've reviewed on this channel. The newest version of this long standing trail beast features an updated upper, a bit more midsole and that same grip we've come to expect. The shoe is not without it's quirks as I'll mention in this review. Have YOU tried the Cascadia 16? Let me know what you think in the comments below!
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@kofuzi 2 года назад

I think we all need a Ginger Runner Halloween audio book

@imatt6566 2 года назад

Always love your reviews!!!

@johngore7071 2 года назад

Really enjoy your reviews. This is great information for someone with narrow feet. My local running shoe store does not carry but four or five trail running options and this is one of them.

@MarkGriffith 2 года назад

I’ve tried them in the past and they have worked BUT I had breakfast with Bhark and he showed me the 16s and told me they have a WIDE option. So I snagged a pair and I am loving them. Especially now with the wide as a durable alternative to Altra, who just can’t seem to make a shoe that doesn’t blow out.

@PhilCrews 2 года назад

I was watching the review and thinking "That looks some Bryan Bhark influence in that shoe design"

@muhdfarid7246 2 года назад

true, my altra didn't even make it to 400km, it died on me sooner

@johanpettersson-evers5367 2 года назад

Great review as always. Visually this vid is just different class, really like the lighting and overall footage. Hard to differentiate yourself in the RU-vid-world today but this is a way to do it for sure. Appreciated this all though I knew the Cascadia isn't a shoe for me, well done.

@Caladesi143 2 года назад

Thank you for the review!! I do 8-10 miles a day on the beach and have to go over stumps and mangroves at high tide and have gone through Ghost 12's like water. The upper mesh tears a perfect crease across the entire top of the shoe even thought the tread looks brand new. I contacted Brooks directly and they recommended these, so will try them.

@JasonGarcia24 2 года назад

The Cascadia's are my go-to for my trail runs. I've really ran all over in them. They held up well hiking and runnning all over Cali, a few years in the Mid-Atlantic, a year in the UK, and the past two years in the rocky Israeli desert. I'm wearing them now out here in Seattle and still very happy with them in the muddy terrain. I'm currently wearing the 14's as I like to stay a year behind, due to sale prices :). In my opinion, the 14's were a great jump in the right direction with more grippy outer soles, which were also somehow more durable. With that being said, I'm really considering trying out the 16's this year. My only hesitancy is that I recently tried them on and noticed a bit of a change in the toe box. It seemed more roomy than what I'm used to. My feet are on the narrow side and I like the snug fit, so this is kind of a big deal, in my head anyways...

@marie-claudedore972 2 года назад

Just bought this exact model 2 weeks ago. It is my second pair of Brook cascadia and I love them even for longer run. Ran a 30k last week in them and they were very confortable. Had to get the wide size cause it is narrower than the previous model I had. That previous pair lasted me a long time and held up very well. For muddier trail, I prefer the Salomon speedcross.

@chrisblanchard4938 2 года назад

I have been trail running in Cascadia’s since the 6 version and have run in many since. I did buy the 16 and have worn them around the house and found them to be pretty stiff. I have been doing some runs in my Altra Lone Peak 5 which i really like and will be giving the Cascadia 16’s a try real soon.

@MalvarkieBattlefield 2 года назад

I love the Brooks Cascadias they are the best running shoes for me. Love the grip for technical downhill running. v16 on my next shopping list.

@marysalmon2367 2 года назад

yes, narrowness is why i love this shoe. cascadia 15 taking me through 15 to 20 mile runs, love it.

@edwarddapra7674 2 года назад

Another great review! The Cascadia 16 starting to look a lot more like the Brooks Caldera line. The older Cascadia’s are unwearable for an ultra, but will go all day on a through hike. Excited to try this rendition on a long run.

@Ultrarunnerdad 2 года назад

I have done 50k and 100k Ultras in Cascadia 12/13/14 and had no issue, it is all down to shoe fit. I am avoiding the 16 due to how much they have changed, going to try Catamount this time.

@Northernerdownsouth 2 года назад

I ran my first trail event in these. The Snowdon Marathon. Perfect shoe for heavier runners. Coming down the mountain, it’s very rocky and the shoes protect them really well.

@richt3993 2 года назад

Was it wet and how did it fair on the rock? I have the Keswick in a month then the UTS Snowdonia in July so would prefer not to buy more than one pair of trainers. Cheers

@michaelpalm2210 2 года назад

I just ordered a pair of these in the gore tex version. Currently using the ghost 13 gtx and i wanted more suppport for trail running. great video. thanks

@relict04 Год назад

durable, fun, great!! As an avid customer of Cascadia I find this version great. Also for technical hiking!

@guitarhiker4449 Год назад

Definitely agree with what you said. The Caldera are much more cushioned. But still a great shoe even for trail walking. I almost went with altra lone peak 7's but something about their zero drop im not quite used to yet. But i do like the Altras wide toe box. Hike on!!

@ryanperringphotography7701 Год назад

I’ve always run in Cascadia’s for trail running, not used anything else! Been weighing up these or changing to some Hoka’s and knew this would be the place to come to find out👌🏼 I’ll ultimately grab these, you’ve sold me! But interestingly, I’d never thought about width and have had troubles when hitting between 40-60 miles in longer ultras, maybe it’s due to the narrowness and natural swelling🤔 very interesting and eye opening review, thank you!!

@csrunner6296 2 года назад

Legend holds that Scott Jurek was a consultant for the design of the original Cascadia. Wore the 7’s training for and during the only 50k I’ve done. Just had my 12’s on yesterday as I’m getting back into trail running again.

@lh3540 2 года назад

they peaked at the 12. I'm clinging to mine for dear life even though the soles look like I took a belt sander to them.

@morganflockhart5825 2 года назад

Spot on review first time in the Brooks still feel a bit boxy for me and too heavy shame the yellow doesn’t come in a wide version only the grey glad I got wide I prefer the Catamount! I will use them for hiking and maybe recovery days!

@MarkGriffith 2 года назад

Oh that explains why I could only get the UGLY color in wide. :(

@tayseersalahmm7206 2 года назад

One of my favors Cascadia were 8th and 7th they were nice and comfy but they were heavy if someone tried pure line.. but looking forward to try the 16th its looks completely new from every part

@emithen 2 года назад

I, for one, liked the improvised verse. Keep making that jazz, man!

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

Beep boop shladda bing!

@christopherbardwell1023 2 года назад

Loved the Caldera 4. Perfect blend of cushion, grip, support, lacing, room in the forefoot, running when wet. Tried the Cascadia 15 and found them hard. Too hard. Looks like they’ve tried to change that. A step in the right direction!

@gregvogel9859 2 года назад

The Cascadia has long been the shoe that I've wanted to love, but never worked with my foot. Biggest reason was the drop always felt far greater than advertised and I felt like I was wearing a shoe with a heel. I'll certainly give it a try.

@krakou9 Год назад

Hi there, I run and hike with that model for some months now. I find them perfect for hiking, even in the mountain, even on long and technical distance. I also run sometimes with them in the forest, but it's true that you have to cope with the stiffness. I also run with glycerin model from Brooks for ages now, and I would love to have the comfort of the glycerin with the durability, stability and quality of the rubber sole you have on the cascadia. Anyway, I'm definitely ready to buy another pair of cascadia in the future.

@tallyinvestment2070 2 года назад

I actually loved the 12s. I put around 450 miles on them before true unwearable wear on the upper. Moved away from them after that version.. would love to go back! Or at least grab some for the hikes

@tammyschilling5362 2 года назад

I have a pair of Cascadia 13 that I love. I don't use them for long runs, but for short trail runs in rooty areas they are the best. They are definitely a firm shoe, but the upper is so minimalist and breathable. It is my favorite upper on any shoe. I wish I could put that upper on all my shoes. It looks to me like they've turned the 16 into Hoka's Torrent 2. I have those also and like them, but for different uses. I also have Caldera 5s, which it looks like they are moving the Cascadia toward (which will beg the question why have both shoes, if they are nearly the same).

@ramibo100 Год назад

I am running with Cascedia 13 for 8 months ~ 700 Km, I like it a lot, and just ordered Cacedia 16 to replace it.

@jaymanrick 2 года назад

I have a with Brooks Cascadia (12) and left bad impression that caused me to never use Brooks for trails. The right foot's outsole separated halfway and almost tore apart while the left foot toe cap part separated, which is bound to an outsole separation too. These defects happened less than a year (bought around March 2019 and stopped using it last Dec 2019). It was used in a dry and and muddy trails.

@michaelalbrecht3395 2 года назад

I was undecided between the cascadia 16 and the third version of the oncloud venture and the cloud venture is the only trail shoe I run in now they redesigned the outsole the grip is amazing on wet rocks and it’s next to impossible to get rocks or pebbles stuck in them

@MavericNorthcott Год назад

I'm trying one on for the first time as i type this... I agree with the stiffness and the long toe box (I'm a 27.5cm foot and I can wear the 9US Mens in this) Disagree that it's narrow though. My foot is 104mm last and I would say it's a very comfortable performance fit. Wouldn't need to be "broken in" much if at all, could run with these out of the box.

@tallyinvestment2070 2 года назад

I actually loved the 12s put around 450 miles on them before true unwearable wear on the upper. Moved away from them after that version.. would love to go back! Or at least grab some for the hikes

@tj5511 Год назад

Great video. Can we say the Cascadia is a good road-to-trail option?

@fionntanoconnor5040 2 года назад

A solid 16. We havnt had one of those in a while

@nibble77 2 года назад

With 200k on them and a 100k race here in Spain, I love those shoes but need some tweaks. I changed the laces for a old cascadia 13 ones and the inner sole for a Hoka speedgoat 3 ones. The result, the speedcascadia 16,13 😂 they run perfect now

@sandiasurfers3174 2 года назад

As a guy w wide feet I’ve got literally 5 trail shoes to choose from. This is one. So get the wide if it’s narrow lol

@tombarr949 Год назад

My first trail shoes were Cascadia back around 2013, I happened across them on a day I forgot to pack my running shoes for an after work run and I happened across them at Dicks. From day one, and through several pairs, they were always my ankle rolling workhorses. I tried Brooks Pure Grit and I loved the lighter weight, lower ride, and the faster feel of them. The higher narrower heel had me roll an ankle about once a month, I just keep running and the limp would go away after 100 yards or so. They are "durable" by the low standards of durable that the industry has had for the last 40 years, maybe you get 500 miles out of them. Brooks and others should benchmark Xero shoes for durability or maybe do like Sketcher did and work with Goodyear. I may buy another pair as Brooks has dropped Pure Grit and Mazama in favor of some Hoka look-a-like shoes for $160.

@lh3540 2 года назад

I will give this shoe credit for one thing: I liked the three-point heel lacelock option, and all shoes should do that.

@travischapman6763 2 года назад

Never thought of see a cascadia reviewed. Also, never seen any marketing for the shoe that wasn’t for trail running. He doesn’t give his beloved altras the same description despite that being there actual thru hiker shoe of choice.

@EMenozzi 2 года назад

I'm just breaking in my second pair of Cascadia 15 Gore-Tex. I usually wear Brooks Caldera, but prefer the Gore-Tex shoes for winter trail running in the wet and muddy PNW. Initially, I hated the Cascadia when I switched to them last winter, but they grew on me after a long wet winter. I have found that because they are stiffer, I have to retire them earlier than my Calderas. I started feeling it in my shins after 250 miles, even though the shoes construction of the shoes and the tread were both still good. I agree that they are narrower. I end up with little stubby lace ends that I can barely tie because of my wide hobbit feet. I really only tolerate these shoes because I like the Gore-Tex for winter running.

@stophatin1354 2 года назад

Buy longer shoe laces for yourself

@MattShafter 2 года назад

If the Cascadia hasn't worked in width, why not try the 2E version they offer?

@aarongrenz8619 2 года назад

I have the Cascadia 11s with Gore-Tex, and they are my favorite shoe for running in snow and ice here in the Upper Midwest. The Gore-Tex keeps my feet dry and extra warm even in sub-zero temps. I do have a heavy rotation of shoes, which is why they are lasting so long, but I do plan to get another pair of Cascadias when my current pair goes to that “great trail in the sky” forever. I tend to prefer a more firm shoe with a better ground feel, so I’m actually a little concerned if the higher stack height/bigger midsole takes any of that away. I also like and use the Brooks PureGrit, the Hoka SpeedGoat and Challenger ATR, and the Salomon Sense Ride 4.

@AstrumG2V 2 года назад

I'm surprised you run Hokas, they're the last brand I'd think of when I think ground feel... have you tried Inov-8, or the Sense Pro 4?

@aarongrenz8619 2 года назад

@@AstrumG2V I was surprised how much I liked them, too. I held out on them for years, but my local running store had a trail running meet-up, and Hoka had shoes to try out. They felt great from my first step, and giving me a free pair to take home was a welcome surprise. I do like the Sense 4 a lot. I’m sure it will have many happy miles.

@DoseofDirt 2 года назад

I've been looking for a more durable alternative to my Altras. I was hanging on every word waiting for you to talk about the fit, and then was sad. 😢 I NEED a wide toe box. Maybe I'll try the wide version! Would be awesome if when you had a shoe that wasn't wide enough, RW would send you the wide version to test as well. Thanks for the reviews! Been loving and relying on these for years!

@jimbeam4736 2 года назад

Same.

@Tmacademia Год назад

Same

@mikeshaw714 2 года назад

Interesting that you think these are narrow. They are the widest Cascadia I've ever owned, wider than the 15. Interesting that people seem to think the Cascadia is no good for an Ultra. I done a 100k off-road ultra in the 15's this year, perfect shoe for it. Not one single issue. Interesting how we all have different experiences with the same product.

@garethjones4297 2 года назад

The Cascadia 16 definitely sparked some interest as my Saucony Peregrines are coming to the end of there life, previous versions haven’t felt good on foot in the shop let alone on the trails, but will slip a pair on soon and see how they feel, would be a shorter distance trail shoe for me as find Hoka deliver the foot feel I like for Marathon distance and beyond.

@joneder9655 2 года назад

It's really disappointing how the Peregrines changed over time.. Some of the earlier versions of that shoe were so much fun to run in.

@garethjones4297 2 года назад

@@joneder9655 I’m still in the ISO version, which I struggled with in the beginning, but have settled into them, uppers failing so want to find something for the shorter distance, perhaps hoka torrents or similar.

@JDDD33 2 года назад

Nice Shoe - but do you think bright yellow is the best colour when these things are designed to go off road :P I just bought them, but in the darker colour in 2E wide version

@runcheatthereaper9016 2 года назад

Fuji Lite 2 vs Torrent 2 ? Two lightweight, fast trail shoes. Which one is better? Is the Torrent 2 the Mach 4 of trail shoes?

@abetong214 2 года назад

I have Cascadia 15. The upper mesh material is VERY fragile and gets worn/torn easily. Not sure if the 16 is using the same material though. I am switching to Nike or New Balance.

@zacharysmiles1308 2 года назад

I have the same exact shoe. Dead on critique here

@donusmc1 2 года назад

I had the cascadia 6’s. Probably my all time favorite shoe. Every version since has been completely different and lacks everything I loved about the 6 which was more geared towards the hiking crowd. I wish they had split the line at some point and preserved everything that made the older cascadias great and introduced a cascadia speed or something for the slimmer lighter faster changes they’ve made since.

@janab2687 2 года назад

I found the 15s to be too shallow and would get pain across the top of my foot. Did anyone notice if the 16s were a bit deeper or had more give across the top of the midfoot?

@samdutson7535 2 года назад

I’m having a hard time finding reviews of the adidas Terrex Agravic Ultra trail runners(299), just finding them for the Speed Ultra. Have you been able to get your hands on them? Thanks!

@MariuszTravels Месяц назад

I own one and man, they are soo comfy

@perdomot 2 года назад

Wondering what The Ginger's fave trail shoe is???

@glendabaghian1145 Год назад

I'm susceptible to toe strike and foot swelling on 15+ mi hikes. Do I need to size up from 10-1/2 to 12 like Altra?

@2spoons 2 года назад

For me I don't drive to where I start running.... I run there... so is it as comfy as any other trail shoes of the Brooks range on tarmac... or do I try INOV8 Parkclaw... or even Altra Lone Peak 5 ?

@alejandrocastro1233 Год назад

Cascadia 16 vs Salomon Sense Ride 4 for hicking? I have used the cascadia many timnes and currently using a Saucony . I was wating for a better price for the cascadia but saw the salomon and i thought they seam really similar

@Kuriousape 2 года назад

A few of the local club runners describe it as an off-road Ghost. Interested if that is a shared experience as I do like the fit and cushioning of the Ghost?

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

Haven’t tried the latest Ghost so can’t compare. I wouldn’t say these are cushioned though. They have lots of midsole, just not a lot of cush.

@clairehsu5915 Год назад

This is my first pair of trail running shoes and loved it so much. Unfortunately the wide womens version only has one color and not the best color. That is why I am trying to find a new trailing running shoes but have no luck with Hoka. Brooks quality and durability and build are just so much better than Hoka

@pates4442 2 года назад

There is a wide version. I have wide feet (espacially the forefoot) and the cascadia 15 wide fits me quite well. The toebox looks even roomier in the 16.

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

My worry is that “wide” just means the upper has more volume and the last/platform width/length doesn’t change.

@kevinlemanquais2006 10 месяцев назад

Cascadia 11 was my first running shoe, loved those shoes. Still pull them out every now and again for a short run. Just got the Cascadia 17, and it's definitely not even close. The heal is wide, and forefoot is narrow. I'm hoping it loosens up a little with a few more miles, it stiff and feels dead under foot. I'm a little disappointed.

@ericperramond3463 2 года назад

Loved my first run (and my last run!) in this shoe, but had to return the regular fit as it pinched my toe-box. Thought about the wide, but it means the whole thing goes wide (and I couldn't get yellow in wide - also SAD). Ankle was perfect, toes were blistered. SAD. Great shoe though...

@lh3540 2 года назад

same, I actually emailed their customer support. mine had a seam crease into my pinkie knuckle. they switched their board and moved their factories, and it's been downhill since.

@chrisjellett217 2 года назад

I've been waiting for this review to drop, however I am hearing conflicting reviews of the toebox width. RTR suggested it is quite accommodating for the tootsies, yet this suggests it fits in the narrow side? I am a fan of the yellow colourway - I seem to have a thing about canary colour shoes at the moment!

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

It’s wider/more accommodating than previous Cascadias, but it’s not the most comfortable in the width department

@lh3540 2 года назад

the width is pretty similar to other brooks or asics, but the laminate rail bends weird and stabs. don't bother, this shoe is a miss.

@percrunner1433 Год назад

Grab a 2E and these are incredible

@craigelliott2524 2 года назад

Not sure why it wasn’t mentioned that Brooks have various widths available (only a couple of shoe companies do this and it can make a huge difference)

@michaelpalm2210 2 года назад

I love New Balance and Brooks . Both companies offer many widths ,wide or narrow

@ritarobertrawantas3813 2 года назад

Is this suitable for flat feet?

@jdssurf 2 года назад

Trying to decide on Altra Loan Peak 6 or Brooks cascadia 16………………….I need a bit of a high arch, and I also need an ok sized toe box due to an old big toe joint injury………….trail hiking………what do you think?

@Tmacademia Год назад

Lp6 has no arch

@Garcia-elf 2 года назад

whats the difference between a hike and a "through" hike

@thebigtoboggin6982 2 года назад

A hike is essentially spending part of a day walking on trails. Thru hiking is essentially backpacking the entirety of a trail like the John Muir Trail (~300miles), Appalachian Trail (~2000 miles), Continental divide Trail (~2500 miles), Pacific Crest Trail (~2000 miles) etc. in its entirety in one long push. Section hiking is a form of thru hiking where you do a full thru hike 50-200 miles at a time over the course of a year or two and (hopefully) keep your personal/work life in tact the whole time. Fast packing is thru hiking as fast and as light as possible so if you have to run to meet your daily time/distance goals, so you dont have a 25lb+ backpack weighing you down.

@mars_hikes967 2 года назад

Brooks ended marketing the shoe to thruhikers years ago. They even put a warning on their website not to thruhike with it. They claimed the shoe is not backpack certified. Whatever this means. Reason was the shoe getting so popular under hikers many tried to get a new shoe for free, claiming they had the shoe just for 4 weeks and it is already falling apart. Of course they didn't say what they were doing with the shoe.

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

Versions 15 & 16 are the clearest deviation yet. Interesting history on their marketing too, hadn’t heard that!

@lh3540 2 года назад

that's ridiculous, i put 2100 miles on my 11s and they still haven't ripped

@jeffhallman676 2 года назад

What’s the little red loop thing in the middle of the laces?

@mtwain1674 Год назад

It’s the front attachment point for trail gaiters

@jeffm234 2 года назад

I still don't understand why shoe makers insist on making narrow shoes that don't mimick the shape of a human foot. Other than Altra

@beeclimbing9954 2 года назад

Whilst I agree that it should be pointed out that the Cascadia runs narrow, I don't think that should be introduced as a negative; for those of us with narrow feet who are sick of our midfoot sliding left & right inside a shoe, narrow is brilliant!!! Especially in a day and age where most manufacturers don't cater for us (particularly if you're even narrower through the heel). So hooray for the Cascadia and the La Sportiva Bushido - if it weren't for them, I'd have to content with blisters for anything over a half marathon.

@TheGingerRunner 2 года назад

My problem is more that narrow doesn’t translate to “precise”. The length is long, the toe box leaves a weird gap, the narrow last doesn’t quite work, that’s my note. I’ve tested a lot of narrow shoes that work well (dynafit, Salomon’s, etc).

@lh3540 2 года назад

Yeah, Brooks and Asics are the ONLY brands I can wear. I popped my foot out of a tied saucony in the store. I actually felt like the 16 was sloppy huge.

@lh3540 2 года назад

@@TheGingerRunner salomons are too tall for petite feet. I'm like 5' and their heel notch covered half my ankle bone. This shoe is junk though, they've over-done the toe box laminate and now it stabs in a weird way. I moved on to Asics Fuji.

@lh3540 2 года назад

Oooo, I hate it. I've been loyal to the cascadia since 8(?), but they keep getting worse. The laminate toe guard on mine creased right into my knuckle. The cascadia (used to) be good for boney feet that need a lot of protection, but I just can't get with their stupid redesigns. It's a shame because the soles are so good, they just kept messing with the damn upper.

@lh3540 2 года назад

also, as far as the "narrowness", I'm a woman with a ballerina type foot (long, high arch, incredibly narrow ankle, neuroma issues, question-mark shape foot outline) and this is almost the only brand I can LACE. It's funny the men are complaining about the narrowness, because I actually had a chat with their service rep to voice how sloppy huge they were. The 14, 15 and 16 feel like clown shoes. I'm in Asics again. They lost me.

@SG-qx1fg 2 года назад

Not a huge fan of the cascadia because of the fit, for sure. I think your color way is a subtle throwback to the first cascadia…which also was narrow lol

@mikekostka7127 2 года назад

Why the narrowness. Brooks should offer a wider shoe and I will become a believer. I've wore the Cascadia years ago but I struggled with the width.

@richt3993 2 года назад

They do, it also comes in Wide

@mikekostka7127 2 года назад

@@richt3993 I will check it out

@lh3540 2 года назад

as a woman with an incredibly narrow ankle, i used to love brooks. brooks and asics are the only shoes I can actually lock down. I can pop my foot straight out of a tied saucony.

@pgreenx 2 года назад

Why review a show designed for thru hikers as a running shoe?

@michaelpalm2210 2 года назад

Because We RUN in them. I live in a wet,snowy, climate and when i run on trails, they are slippery and wet. My runners are all Gore Tex. I consider it a necessity.

@pgreenx 2 года назад

@@michaelpalm2210 thanks. My point is it’s not a running shoe. The negatives of a hammer used as a screwdriver are not negatives.