Pop-ups was a feature that turned into a problem in the 90s, now browser notifications is the updated pop-up. I personally think that browser notifications should be completely removed, they are far too intrusive
I hope they change the name back to popups than Notifications Just think if site got infected and sends you Notifications I would choose popups than Notifications is sound way better
Ah yes. My IT teacher loves those notifications. I love how the notifications kept popping out when she is projecting her computer display via projector.
I think browser should just always return true for asking to enable notifications. Trying to send a notification should ALWAYS pretend like it succeeded, but it won't send it if notifications are disabled. Also, the enable notifications popup should have a warning saying to only enable it for sites you trust and that sites cannot detect it.
I think the best way of managing notifications is with feedback, when first enabling a website to notify a user then once in a while they should be asking "you recently received this notification from this website, how would you evaluate that?" "Good or bad" or "useful or unwanted" Then based on a score should disable them automatically, or ask you "you said bad/unwanted, so you wanna disable it?" Especially with notifications telling you "security allert" so the user is always informed that's an ad and not a real alert. I do tech support to some people in my city and they often call me because they think to have a problem with the antivirus, while it's just an ad, but the headers of the notifications are so small that you think they are legit.
Technically, clicking the cross to close the pop-up would do that, since you're closing a system-bound pop-up and not returning anything. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Here's another thing I've ran into: Adware/malware that asks for permission through UAC, but it won't let you click "No" and instead will respawn the UAC window until you click "Yes" and let it do god knows what. The worst part is that it isn't easy to get out of, unless you switch to another user through the Ctrl+Alt+Delete screen (assuming you have multiple user accounts, if you don't, you can only restart) and the process through task manager. The idea is to annoy the user until they think that clicking "Yes" is the only option. It's easy enough to recreate if you know programming: create a payload with UAC request in the application manifest, pack it into a parent program, make the parent program extract the payload and attempt to run it inside a while true loop. Since clicking "No" on an UAC prompt throws an exception, you can catch it and just continue the loop. If you don't catch an exception, you break the while loop and the payload gets run. The exploit here is that clicking "No" throws an exception instead of either doing nothing or killing the parent program.
If you are quick enough to throw the focus on another window especially Edge the uac prompt would stay confined in the taskbar. then open task manager and kill the app. eezy peezy
One problem in browser that they are too powerful. You can literally run a VM in background while the user thinks the page is closed! Also, some browsers are so broken that some alert-requests block the entire window
@@Sparkette I don't think service workers (background browser tabs) are given resources like that but with how much memory Chrome wants I wouldn't be surprised.
I have all browser notifications disabled outright, they're just not an appealing feature since I'm not the biggest fan of desktop notifications anyway. I usually use focus assist and have like 3 or 4 programs that are allowed through, chrome not being one of them. My phone is the place where endless notifications go.
@@windestruct they can. The email and messages service providers can implement and work out a plan with Google on making a system only for this kind of thing. Don't say BS.
@@psyonix_2829 Well, they can't make out an entire alternative to notifications, but they can do something like a notification permit and only permitted websites could ask for notifications
Maybe we could have a notification blacklist in browsers where it shows a warning on low security and straight out blocks ot on high (with opt in and out options of course). I really like having these alerts on some sites as windows notifications are normally pretty bad.
I never ever pressed "allow". When browsers started to using notifications I was surprised and scared at the same time. :/ And now we know this is a BAD FEATURE!
my dad once activated notifications on random sites and since im a "tech genius", he asked me to remove them. i literally just disabled notifications directly from chrome.
My dad isn't very smart with tech, so whenever he sees a prompt with the button "Allow" or "Accept" he just clicks it. The amount of cam girls notifications he gets when he opens his laptop is depressing.
sadly yet another example of a somewhat useful feature being abused into oblivion. imo, chrome should heavily restrict notifications, give easy access to turning them off, and let the user know every now and again that sites can send them notifications
It's a shame to see that kind of thing happening, but I don't think removing would be the best, for me is pretty useful feature as I have my own little server that sends sensor data to my devices with a simple PWA and self signed certificates/certificate authority installed
When I was like 8 or 9 I remember there was malware on my family desktop that changed the chrome start page to some 18+ video game add. That’s how I switched to Firefox and never came back - possibly the best worst thing that happened to me on a computer.
When I was very young like 5 or 7 I was on my father’s computer and just clicked allow on anything ended up with a incredibly infected machine it was terrible and that was the day I found out about “adult content”…
I once clicked allow when getting a minecraft mod, and my pc was *FLOODED* with notifications, and i had to hastily change the notifications setting. Talk about a nightmare.
ah... adfly, my old friend, used to go past them a lot downloading minecraft textures in the beta. EDIT: just came to a realization that Adfly uses a bee for their logo, and not a fly.
i remember i used to download youtube to mp3 things, and it would always ask me to tap allow on these notifications. i never did because i was paranoid, even at like, 10, so i’m glad i didn’t click it and just downloaded the mp3s.
@@helper_bot he means blocking notifications from your browser using the os, e.g site is forcing notifications, so user accepts the notifications, and then blocks notifications from browser using windows settings
Good solution can be limit sites to send, for example, 3 message day and if user really want to increase this value, allow it to change only in site settings, not on pop up notification. Like it works on Android
Using a bypasser extension works to skip these. Also instead of removing browser notifications, the browser company should check the website and approve it.
This reminds me of something that happened to a friend. He visited a somewhat shady website, clicked allow notifications, and his *chromebook* got infected with some kind of malware. Browsers like Chrome should fix these kinds of vunerabilities, like by having a button which doesn't allow the website to ask for notifications again, or by blocking notifications without telling the website. Side note: how did that website manage to infect a chromebook? I thought for a while that it would be extremely difficult to infect one, but I guess I was wrong.
the actual reason i never click allow notifications is because i'm worried some exploit will come to be. since notifications are an operating system feature, my paranoid head awaits a moment when a malformed notification request will create an entrypoint outside of the browser sandbox that allows malware to automatically enter my system
The "allow to continue" stuff could be easily stopped if browsers had an option to block but tell the website the user clicked allow. Since the browser could easily do that and the website wouldn't know better
In windows 10, there is a function call ‘focus time’ or something like that which shuts up all notifications and diverts them in to the Notification Center but if the browser starts spamming it, you might loose that snip and sketch screenshot that you wanted to edit
I think browsers shouldn't tell sites if notifications are blocked, In my opinion clicking 'Block' should send a website the message that you allowed notifications, but they're blocked
This makes me want to create an anti-virus or an anti-pup software that checks your notification subscriptions on every browser you have installed and then compares them to a database of known malicious or unwanted notification links and removes them and blocks the websites that prompts you for notification access from being visited. What do you think?
I remember I was going on a website and it said ''click allow if your not a robot'' so I did it came up another 2 times and I clicked it I forgot about it and later I got a notification saying I have a virus did a windows virus scan nothing no viruses at all
Once I have clicked allow on some link on my phone and messages started popping very fast in 10 seconds 23 messages popped up then I blocked chrome notification
I just set that shit to block all by default and whitelist the 2 or 3 websites that are actually useful, the first thimg i do upon installing a browser
I think browsers should work by automatically report to websites that the notification was actually enabled - even if the user clicked on block so that websites don't redirect you forever
Use Universal Bypass to immediately skip these horrible link shorteners. Another stupid permission that browsers just give away to sites is "Is Focused" info. Why the hell does the site know if it's on focus or not by default? (Can be bypassed with Don't Make Me Watch).
Knowing when a window is focused or not is usefull for a handfull of reasons. If you have a website that runs heavy scripts or request data often, you could disable the script whenever a user isn't focused on the window which saves the clients resources EDIT: i know i am late
Another thing that i notice is that the "principal page of adfly" (the one where you can skip the ads) change his web direction constantly idk why PD: sorry if I say something wrong english is not my first lenguage
Idk if they should remove the feature entirely, but I think they should have an option in the browser settings to see all of the sites you have allowed the notifications on and be able to remove them. Idk if some browsers already have this, but all of the ones I've used require me to reset or reinstall them to remove the sites that I've allowed notifications on.
huh, old chrome "alert" dialogs were worse. Literally some malware websites were spamming alerts and it was impossible to close the tab. Whats more sometimes if you were spamming "ok" button an extension install request was shown. Thankfully alert dialog cannot bring focus anymore.
I wanna delete notifications from the browser it's such a shame that people do this stuff I wish this stuff didn't exist. I'm gonna scream in a pillow now
man alot of malwares nowadays are adwares. Why cant ppl just go work hard and show us some good malwares which is fun and not those annoying "hello ur computer has virus"...
So when I use Safari there's a Chrome Popup like in your vid but when I go to other Real Sites and they ask for Camera its a normal safari popup not a chrome, so I think they can't send you notifications because they only put in like the picture of the chrome popup
Reminds me of my dad who wants to watch Romanian TV but ads are invading the website. I taught him 3 main things: 1.NEVER CLICK ALLOW ON NOTIFICATIONS FROM BROWSERS. 2. If a page appears that blocks your access to the whole browser, ctrl+alt+delete -> Task Manager, and click the tab that doesn't let you close the browser. 3. If there is any suspicious malware that you don't find or the laptop is too slow, you need to clear the cache or reinstall the browser.
Unfortunately that task manager trick doesn't work if you're using Firefox. It only works on chrome or chromium based browsers like edge where each tab is a separate process
I remember back in 2017 my client say after accidentally click on "allow nofication", bunch of "error messeage" display that the computer get virus, and when open it, it let to a website and downloaded some Ransomware. Thankfully he was able to SHUT the power of the PC right away and bring it to me, or otherway, his computer will just become a piece of PCB can display some screen.
i use nord vpn to block ads but when i connected to nord it will block the ability to play any xbox games online and use any microsoft apps like the store mail xbox app ect because when im not using nord i use a proxy so it sucks bc i cant block adds
whenever these bitly notification thingies appear, they always have the redirect link at its own link, so I just copy that and translate the parts that I know are slashes
What am i going to say is that pressing allow can be dangerous. I just wanted to upgrade my android tablet, i clicked the allow button and too much inappropritiate messages came to me. so, never press allow button
When I'm a kid I always press allow on adfly ads🤦 How I fix them: Since it requires notification. I remove the websites notification permission in chromes settings. Ye, I never received inappropriate notification ever again...
Umm Can i ask a question? Ok so everyone knows about bsod and some of gsod (this one for devs build) But...i got my first error like that today but it was pink? I have no idea what Pink Screen Of Death mean and how did it activate?
3 years ago i downloaded a bunch of games and things for animating from videos (it had adfly links) and the ads were so annoying man. Now i go to videos with direct link
So when I use Safari there's a Chrome Popup like in your vid but when I go to other Real Sites and they ask for Camera its a normal safari popup not a chrome, so I think they can't send you notifications because they only put in like the picture of the chrome popup