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That last run by Hogan was so weird. I just remember even as a kid it, it seemed super weird that Hulk popped back up, won, and was almost never on any TV until he dropped it back to Yokozuna and then was gone again.
The funny thing is Bret was so petty against Hogan for not being passed the torch he never realizes how phenomenal a following 19 months he had. King of the Ring '93 he wins WWE's top tournament against three of his best peers, Summerslam '93 he stole the show burying the company clown and business king, Survivor Series '93 once again stole the show this time with his family, was a winner of the '94 Rumble, at Wrestlemania 10 stole the show at its beginning and end that elevated his brother and got the title favor repaid from Yoko, at King of the Ring '94 he made the company's most green rookie look like a million bucks, Summerslam '94 had arguably one of the company's best cage matches ever with his brother, then three more impressive months with the title.
I was 13 in 93 and Bret was my favorite. I'd watched him when I was a younger but he was a heel tag team. That run is by far my favorite in company history
He wrestled Jerry the king lawler later that year instead of hogan. While they had Luger celebrate beating yokuzuna by count out. Not having hogan vs Bret completely messed up the company and it took them years to recover. Bret being bitter isn’t just about him, it was about hogan hurting their business in the long run period.
I don't know what you're talking about, Bret was fully aware of his popularity during this time, but it wasn't the point. It was about Hogan being a douche and going back on a gentleman's agreement about passing the torch down, but Hogan's ego was too big and he felt he was too above Bret to do it. Add to that, the two were supposed to be relatively good friends at the time too. I don't think Bret had a problem in principle with dropping the belt back to Hogan, it's the fact the plans were changed all at the last minute and Hogan placated him in an otherwise dubious situation knowing he had absolutely no plans to honour it. It's not petty of Bret at all, this is a typical case of a boss screwing you over for favouritism over another colleague. Hogan getting that title did absolutely nothing for him, Bret or Yokozuna, because Hogan was no longer in the long term plans of the company All it did technically was hurt Bret and hurt Yoko, but I'm sure Hogan got a very good payday and was fine.
@@kevnb3I was talking to a fan about a week ago and he says that he doesn't believe Bret Hart about the supposed SummerSlam match. Claiming that he was lied to by Vince instead of Hogan.
Hulk Hogan was on the European Tour on the following dates: July 29 1993 - Vienna July 30 1993 - Dortmund July 31 1993 - Offenbach August 1 1993 - Munchen August 2 1993 - Berlin August 3 1993 - Edinburgh August 4 1993 - London August 6 1993 - Sheffield There was a European Tour right after WrestleMania but Hogan was not on it. Then he lost the title at King of the Ring on June 13, 1993. My guess is he promised to go on the tour right after he won but probably gave some excuse or reason he couldn't go so they replaced him with Jim Duggan on some of the matches and the Undertaker on the others. Vince probably told him, "Look pal, you agreed to do some European house shows so we got a few coming up after King of the Ring and you will be on them." By then he had lost the title so he wasn't going to be doing his farewell tour as the Champion but winning the matches by DQ.
Bret hart is such a mark for himself. It’s embarrassing. I literally think he would take less money just to keep a belt that the owner of the company decides who and who doesn’t receive.
I don't know whether he actually wrote the dross in his book, but he describes the events of his life like they're taking place in a movie. He's either the conquering hero with adoring fans or the put-upon martyr betrayed by everyone.
I didn't have PPV access for another 3 years. So I remember watching "Superstars" and they started with "Who is the champion? Yokozuna or Hulk Hogan?" To say I was confused would be an understatement. LOL
If you were a big Bret Hart fan, I cannot possibly see how you could see the ending of WM9 as being right at all. That was the first time I watched a wrestling show and had me as a kid thinking about backstage politics, I wasn't even in that train of thought, as I always watched with the willing suspension of disbelief. But on that night, not only did I call BS, but it was actually the first time I started to really dislike Hogan. Bret got royally f-ed over that night.
@@Longlostpuss Well at the time Hogan was still my favorite WWF wrestler so in my eyes could do no wrong. Bret was second to Hogan, to me. I began to dislike Hogan when he joined the nWo and never cared for him since. Even when he turned good again, I was always for whoever he was facing.
IMO the worst Wrestlemania was XI (11 for those who can't read Roman Numerals). And they didn't always go to Europe after Wrestlemania. In the mid 2000s for a while they actually went to Australia for their post-WM tours.
I have a couple of questions for Bruce. Why did you give Shawn 3 months off to train before WrestleMania 12? At the same time, you put Bret through the ringer. Match after match against Deisel, Yokozuna and Scott Hall. Night after night. These are power wrestlers and tend to slam their opponents instead of mat wrestling. You purposefully destroyed Bret to make Shawn look great, why? Both were equally talented. What was it with Shawn that made you guys gush over him?
Youth, Vince was looking for the "next big thing". .......keep in mind Hart is 8 years older then Michaels, and I believe Hart was about 38 at Wrestlemania XII, or in 1996, Michaels was about 30 or 31, long term the smart decision was to go with Shawn.
I wouldn't say Shawn was off for three months, maybe he had a less demanding work schedule but he was absolutely still doing matches from Rumble to Wrestlemania. He had a break following the first Raw after Survivor Series '95 until Royal Rumble '96, perhaps that's when his training spots were filmed.
Hogan and the European tour, I do get what Bruce is saying about what was initially planned. It sounds to me like Hogan done his usual thing. Hogan was recently on Joe Rogen's podcast and a lot of things that he said is completely inaccurate. He's either mistaken or he's outright lying. Especially when he talks about Bruiser Brody. I think Bruce is right in what he saying but then something else happened along the way and it's most likely Hogan and his politics. One thing I have noticed about Bret Hart though is, when he's happy there's no problem he turns up late and just does his match. When somebody else isn't happy he doesn't care. If the rolls were reversed and it was him coming in he wouldn't have an issue with anything. It's like the whole Bret and Shawn issue , do you know how many times they had matches not just on live TV but all the house shows as well and every single time Shawn put Bret over and yet when it came time for Shawn to get the win Bret always had an issue with it. I loved Bret But when he was champion the business was going down the toilet. He wasn't as over as people think he was. He was just a fantastic wrestler and performer but he never was as big as Hogan or Stone Cold or The Rock. Maybe in Canada but not worldwide. Those statistics are there to be checked out so it's fact. Bret and Shawn as amazing as they were as performers didn't draw money. It was Steve Austin that put WrestleMania back into stadiums.
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Well......think of it this way, If Vince had all the power all the time and always got his own way then the screw job would never had happened business would have been done exactly how he wanted it but that's not what happened so Bret must of had power and influence which in turn also equals his fair share of politics.
Hogan worked the European tour. Shit there's a match between Hogan and yokozuna from Spain in May in RU-vid that's been posted for over 8 years so obviously Conrad doesn't know how to research shit.
i think the main event should of been bret hart vs macho man for the title and bret hart wins,then at the king of the ring 1993 bret loses the belt to yokozuna then hulk wins the belt at summerslam 1993 then hulk hogan vs bret at wrestlemania 10 and bret wins the title back
i get what you're saying but in fairness in many times hes trying to explain the plans and thought processes before things actually happen and the plan generally ends up the plan bc its the best idea presented at the time, so for those involved it is hard to view that as a mistake. But also sometimes its ok to own some Ls and maybe he could slightly more often but its ok
Bret at Wrestlemania 9 was the first time he was screwed. Bret should have cemented himself as the top star with a win in the main event, preferably over Hogan or Savage in a passing of the torch match
Savage would've been an amazing match. I'll be honest, with the right build, million dollar man would've been a good choice as a heel main event opponent. They had great matches on the house show loop during 91
Wrestlemania 8 was not bad. Granted, almost all the good stuff happened before the tag team title match, but the HBk/Tito, Hart/Piper and the Title match were all great. It isnt great....I think that if you had switch the Hogan and Savage matches and had one more solid match in the 2nd half it could have been great. I think LOD or a face Nasty Boys would have fit better than the Natural Disasters.
WM 9 was the correct ending. Nobody gave a sh about Bret back then and without that ending him vs Yoko would be remembered as the most lackluster main event of all time. You can see it in the crowd just how much better they saw that ending. After this, KITR, and the Owen storyline Bret got the momentum to be the man.
Despite the scripted match. It was an iconic match as when I was a child. At the the same notion. Kind of fullish that the manager needed to throw in eyes. But, they were heals. It meets the point of the match. Bret Hart was a favorite as well hulk. But following the script. It worked perfectly. In a side note: as hulk took the save. Afterwards, the weeks following. There should of been a match of hulk vs Bret. To enable opportunity to earn belt back. The difference in storyline. No heel, only that hulk save the day. And now hulk is giving opportunity to Bret to regain belt. Face move. Bret doesn't need to regain. Just the opportunity.
Maybe this is what Brother Bruti looked like after he broke his face in that jet ski accident. Before he had the surgery to fix it all lol. Side note, I wonder why nothing was ever made of the fact a guy named BRUTUS was on a show at CAESER's Palace? That would have been the perfect venue for Brutus to turn heel or something. Like maybe he could have been part of screwing over Bret so that Yokozuna won the title. Or maybe in the tag match with money inc he could have turned against Hogan perhaps. I dunno. Just something like that. And then Hogan could have got on a mic and said the "et tu, Brute?“ line. It's just a once in a lifetime opportunity to be really clever with the names cos it's the one and only show they ever did at Caeser's Palace, and they just lucked into having a long time member of the roster named Brutus. Oh well. I always liked Brutus Beefcake. Sure he was a little goofy, but he could work good enough matches, and was always memorable to watch. And at times was absolutely hilarious, albeit probably unintentionally a lot of the time. Like him as the zodiac with the "yes" "no" over and over lol
I'd say John Cena vs the Miz is probably the worst WrestleMania main event ever. The Miz shouldn't be main eventing ransom house shows, he should be luck to even be on a WrestleMania card.
LMAO at how Conrad pronounces Bournemouth as "born-mouth" 🤣🤣🤣 I guess it's difficult to know for sure how to pronounce these towns and cities if you've never heard of them before. But yeah, it's more like "born-muth" or "born-mooth". Like, the sound of the double O in the word "wood", that's what the OU in the "mouth" of "Bournemouth" sounds like. I don't know if I'm explaining that well, but yeah. Look up the pronunciation of it if you want to know. If you Google for "Bournemouth pronunciation", then Google will have the pronunciation button you can press to hear it right there on the search results page. And it writes out the pronunciation as "born-muhth". So yeah. At least it's not as bad as when JR always always always pronounced "Glasgow" as "glass cow" lmao
According to WWE, WM 8 was TERRIBLE, not WM 9. Shocked that Duggan even jobbed to Bam Bam at King of the Ring on PPV as well. Dude was count out or double DQ finish guaranteed every time.
8 was a great and memorable wrestlemania return of the warrior was an iconic moment piper , hart , taker jake the snake the storyline and match with flair and savage . 9 and 11 are considered some of the worst in my opinion . 🤷♂
What annoys me most about Bret whinging about all of this stuff is the way he acts like Yokozuna wasn't even involved in the whole scenario it was just him & Hogan and Vince stirring the pot. Like Yokozuna didn't even exist. Does he not think Vince made promises to him too?! And maybe he wanted to be champion too and maybe he wanted to have a match with Hogan. Shame he's not around to give his side too it but i bet he'd be pissed at Bret if he still spoke about it the way he does if Yoko was still alive.
@veganhigler6541 not talking about that i'm talking about backstage and he was just new at the time maybe he'd been promised the title too. Bret thinks the world revolves around him
I'm surprised Bruce said was down there with 8. The finish was bullshit but there was the Piper-Hart and Flair-Savage which were excellent matches. Also Conrad saying "somewhere in England" how lazy
Look... Prichard don't have to explain shit to Connie the mark... was Connie the mark there??? Nope. But you know who was... BRUCE F_ _ KING PRICHARD!!! WTF?!
Neither Hogan's nor Bruce's story makes much sense. The european tour Bruce talks about with Hogan happened in July and August and the funny thing is Hogan wasn't even champion anymore. Hogan left right after WM 9 for Japan and didn't even appear until KOTR. lmao And obviously Hogan's version seems too fabricated because why would Vince change all his plans for Hogan when Hogan was leaving for Japan anyway? None of this makes any sense!
Hogan did work a bunch of House shows for the WWF before KotR and he still drew the biggest attendances (The 11,000 at the Meadowlands on May 22 would remain the highest attendance in the venue for a House Show, until 1998 for example, no Champion after Hogan came even close to that number, until Austin broke it with 12,483 on February 22), same with the 6,500 in Winnipeg on June 4, not even the "Canadian Hero" Bret Hart could draw such a crowd there as Champion.
@@louio Mania still drew a 1.8 or even 2.0 if am not mistaken. That's not bad considering it was the 1st Mania without Hogan being advertised for the main event
@@ShadowAngel1860 No wonder, Hogan went missing for 3 months so people would finally have a chance to see the current champion for once since April. The fact is though that McMahon didn't trust Hogan's appeal to put him in the Mania main event. Hogan came back in January and they had plenty of time to put him in the main event spot and advertise it. Instead they put him in a damn tag team match with Brutus which clearly indicates that McMahon didn't trust in Hulkamania anymore. Whatever the reason was to finally give the belt to Hogan knowing that he wouldn't even show up once on Raw until KOTR it was beyond a waste of time for the fans. In fact I wasn't mad that he didn't put Bret over I was mad he didn't lose clean to Yoko. Because if he did it would have made Yoko look like a monster and the guy who beats Yoko even stronger, whether it was going to be Luger, Bret or Taker, it didn't matter.
It's nowhere near the worst considering 2, 4, 27 and 2000 exist. 2 might be the worst all around since it basically has 1 mediocre match (Bulldogs vs. Dream Team), while everything else is crap and it features the by far worst announcing of all time thanks to all these washed up pseudo celebrities who got no clue about wrestling.
Bruce explaining himself in this segment should be a case study for pyschology 101: how to detect if someone is obviously lying. The truth ALWAYS has a passable explanation. People who lie as a personality trait aren't PRESENT. Thus they aren't listening to themselves. They would witness/ or notice how they aren't making sense.They aren't thinking ahead, thus their explanation appears to made up on the spot.... which it is.
I’m sorry. As much of a fan of Brett’s work that I was, he’s such a complete Mark for himself! The quote from his book is disgusting. He treats everything as as a shoot. Arrogantly saying “the majority of Vince’s paying audience was my fan contingent”. Sorry, brother, the majority of that audience was still Hulk Hogan fans. It wasn’t really until WCW that they started to turn on him and his act got stale as the red and yellow Hulkster.
Not having Wrestlemania 8 as one of the Worst. It had 2 brilliant matches in Hart/Piper, Flair/Savage. Wrestlemania 9 looked cool but all the matches sucked.
Yeah it's a very very simple thing to understand, what Bruce is saying, and yet Conrad is incapable of understanding it. Instead of being an adult and just understanding that things change and memories aren't always accurate, instead he keeps hammering this point because he cares more about creating artificial drama and selling his shitty home mortgage service than about making a good podcast, at times. When he's not being a dickhead like he is here, he's great. But sometimes he just wants to create drama, which is just unlistenable. You'd think after all these years of working with Bruce, he'd have respect for him, and would treat him with respect like a man should. But he's demonstrating here that he doesn't respect him, and is treating him terribly here, all because he thinks he's got a "gotcha" moment and doesn't seem to realise that he doesn't. He's willing to jeopardise his friendship with Bruce over this. There's banter with your mates, and then there's this. It crosses a line.
Ah yes Conrad pointing out Bruce’s unreliable narrative and bullshit is…you know what, i’ll just leave this here - “That’s one way to cope and defend someone who is obviously full of shit”
Listen.. hulkamania was dead.. hulk hogan is completely out of touch because he’s been a legend for so long. Bret was never gonna beat hogan back then and he probably shouldn’t have. It all worked out for brett anyways so i don’t understand why he’s so bitter about one of the worst wrestlemanias of all time.
@Rjensen2 arguing with a stranger is stupid and so is seeking the last word which you will.most certainly do. The pay difference is commensurate with their drawing ability. Hart was not in league with Hogan. That's the way it was. Was Hart a better performer? Yes.
If I was Bruce I wouldn't tell Conman Thompson anything , not every fan wants to know every minute detail of backstage life. Only marks care about this bs.
Even though Bret was a better wrestler, better person & actually could carry the ball as the face of the company. Shawn did real well as top baby face in '96...... He killed the 1 guy he had as an interesting new top heel that year in Vader after coming off a strong run in wcw
