Bruce Wayne meets Dr. Edward Nygma | Batman Forever 

This is a side of Bruce Wayne that is always ignored even in the comics. He's a businessman that cares about his employees and wants what's best for Gotham.

I really like that Bruce Wayne actually gave him a chance and took the time to listen to him. He didn't reject his idea because he thought he was crazy. He did it because he knew it could be dangerous.

Fun fact: Paul Dano’s riddler wears the same glasses as Jim Carrey’s riddler

If you think about it, this was heartwarming on Bruce Wayne's part. Bruce Wayne was being fair with E. Nygma(despite the obviously mental instability); he gave him a chance to prove himself and he genuinely listened, and when he rejected the idea, he told Nygma why he rejected the offer and it was a reasonable one because he was concerned of the negative implications.

I find Val Kilmer’s Bruce Wayne to be the most approachable and considerate. He was respectful and careful with his words when he turned down Riddler’s idea.

I never realized this as a kid, but Bruce totally offers him a chance to prove himself and Nygma blows it. I always thought he was just fucking around with him, but the only minor road block is Bruce telling him to set up an appointment.

I'm really glad they wrote the scene to show Bruce's compassion and patience with people even if they're like Nygma. When I was a kid I felt so bad for Nygma here, but seeing how Bruce treated him made me love Batman even more.

*I like how Val Kilmer's Bruce Wayne is so thoughtful. He listens to Edward even when he could just ignore him. This film is very underrated.*

"You were supposed to understand..." That's just it, Ed, he DID understand. That's why he said no.

That intro animation looks so outdated now, it used to look so realistic when I was young.

I love this dreamy vibe of Gotham. I don't know how to describe it, but even the sky was purple

I love how nice Bruce Wayne is. Reminds me of the animated series after he thanks the caddy: Rich prick: "You thank the help? Do you thank the garbage man too?" Bruce: "if I see him"

Whoever picked Jim to do this role was absolutely brilliant

Damn he was making a VR headset

2:16 “feel like they’re inside the show” … you don’t say, eh, Truman?

Jim is the reason this movie will never be forgotten

Val Kilmer was actually a pretty good Bruce Wayne. I wished he had decided to do another movie in the franchise.

“You were supposed to understand... I’ll make you understand.” You can see Bruce go from Edward’s hero to his nemesis in his eyes. Only a great actor can pull that off, kudos to Jim Carrey.

“You hired me personally” “We’ve never actually met” 😂😂😂

"Why be brutalised by an uncaring world?" I think that line spoke volumes about this version of the Riddler. Maybe because of his genius from an early age, he'd grown up as a nerdy outcast with no friends, maybe only picked on or brutalised by bullies, and while he wasn't studying, the only friends he could really turn to were those on the television screen, a form of escapism from the harsh and unforgiving reality of life. So that became his goal, to turn that dream into a NEW reality, no matter how dangerous it may have seemed (like Spellbinder's VR proved many years later), so that maybe no one would ever have to go through what he experienced growing up ever again. It seemed like giving the public a chance to be happy in a world of misery was his goal, and when he was denied that chance, it drove him over the edge, and the side effects of his Box only began to damage his mind even more, especially when he discovered much later on that his device could copy other people's thoughts to his mind and his greed got the better of him. I think in a way, this was one of the best interpretations of the Riddler we ever got. We all know Jim Carrey's history of depression. Putting on a happy face and being all wacky is just a disguise. That same logic could've easily applied to the Riddler here. Funny and smiley on the outside, but actually deeply tragic within.

This was back when Jim Carrey was in everything!

I like how Bruce Wayne said, "it raises too many questions." Kinda like he was foreshadowing the Nigma as the riddler.

Val Kilmer, in my opinion, definetly had the best Batman voice. It reminds me of a live action Kevin Konroy

I just noticed Paul Dano’s riddler wears the same glasses

i feel that Jim’s performance is highly under-appreciated. he was absolutely fucking BONKERS and really portrayed the Riddler as best as anyone could.

Imagine working in that environment,the lighting is just depresing.

Val Kilmer's eye glasses really looked great on him.

I'll throw my name into the "Val Kilmer was an underrated Bruce Wayne" hat.

Now I know what Jesse Eisenberg was trying to do with Lex Luthor.

fun fact, that security guard on the right at 0:42 is Jon Favreau, director of the first two iron man movies and also happy hogan.

Val Kilmer was a fantastic Batman/Bruce Wayne and this movie has always been my favorite. It seems like this movie getting more appreciated.

Loving the comments appreciating the detail of Bruce Wayne being genuinely courteous to Nygma. Small details like that go a long way which is why I still enjoy this movie. Did it age like wine? Nah, but for every weird and dated decision, there are also these moments that have me fondly remember the film. I really hope we get Batman Forever: The Red Book Edition in the future.

I love how you can see Jim Carrey's sweat running down his neck. He's absolutely 100% in the scene here.

Jim Carrey's acting is so good here.

You ever realize he’s wearing the same glasses as the riddler in “The Batman” (2022)

Val Kilmer's batman was the closest comic book adaptation of Bruce and I stand by it. And Jim Carrey was the greatest Riddler.

Val Kilmer was actually a pretty good Bruce Wayne/Batman imo

I actually like this movie. Has a true batman comic vibe

I liked Val Kilmer and Michael Keaton wearing glasses as Bruce Wayne.

bruce was completely honest and explained calmly and clearly why he morally disagrees with nygma. as a hero that is the best you can do sometimes.

Bruce actually offered to set up something for his experiment. I mean if Edward was a little bit more patient and with a few safeguards implemented then he probably would’ve gotten his invention approved.

I never noticed how much Carey played up the crush Nigma has on Bruce Wayne and it's really scary tbh

I don't care what people say, Jim Carrey was perfect to play the Riddler

“It just raises too many questions.” Oh the foreshadowing.

When this idea didn't work he went and installed cable

Geez, the animation at the start is positively ANCIENT now. Bruce was quite reasonable here, even for someone who was probably going to say "no." He heard the guy out, and instead of rejecting him there, asked for his schematics to truly understand the threat. Looking back at this, though, this idea feels a little bit more like a "Mad Hatter" thing to do than "Riddler."

The virgin Paul Dano’s riddler vs. The Chad Jim Carrey’s riddler .

this film may not be perfect, but it's punchlines and the nasty jokes and dialogues were definitely top notch! kudos to the writer and the cast for delivering it perfectly

I love how Bruce literally did nothing wrong here. He was incredibly nice considering he had an entire company to run. Nygma had some stones demanding that Wayne answer him right then and there. Like who the hell do you think you are? 😂

“You were supposed to understand” if he just took his deal about waiting who knows, but he pushed for his answer

Edward : *You are my Idol* Compare to the recent movie, this line aged pretty well

Val Kilmer and George Clooney may not have been good Batmans, but they were terrific Bruce Waynes.

Man Val Kilmer was a perfect Bruce Wayne. Can you imagine if they put him in an actual batman film authentic to the comics that were coming out at that time??!

2:32 Val Kilmer looking like a young jeff bridges here. lol

He has the best bat man voice

"I am Dr. Nygma" "Nygma what?" "Nygma Balls"

Jim Carrey's delivery on the last seconds is just priceless! What a great performance.

“Jim Carrey plays his future actual self.”

Goddamn Val Kilmir did do a good job as Wayne.

Carrey Riddler - Rejected by Bruce Wayne. Dano Riddler- Rejected by Batman.

Jim carried this movie on his back

I never noticed that Jon Favreau is walking with Bruce Wayne in this scene.

I just realized The Cable Guy became Edward Nigma so everyone could enjoy TV just a little bit more👍🏼

I always liked how Carrey's first line was "Oh my God it's HIMMM~"

2:02 my reaction after seeing Batman & Robin.

Lol , that animated intro made me think that this was that telltale batman game.

Val Kilmer was so underrated in his performance as Bruce Wayne.

3:10 "it just raises too many questions"

This is the zenith of comic book writing and acting. Jim Carrey’s understanding of human disaster only means that he can’t be a bad guy in real life. I don’t think I appreciated a scene like this as a kid. Now I can see it for what it truly is... a pinnacle of cinematic achievement.

Edward, Edward Nygma N-Word, N-Word Ligma

While not the best Batman flick out there, this is still one of the best scenes. Imagine being "touched" but having your hero shoot down your life's work. Perfect villain origin fuel

I can't believe Edward died of Nygma

How did they hire Edward anyway? How the heck did he pass be interviewed haha nobody talks about this.

Jim Carrey in the 90’s looks exactly The Riddler actor in Gotham Series both look a like.

bruce was being reasonable as fuck tho . and pretty nice

I don’t care what other people think, Val’s Bruce Wayne/Batman was the best Batman.

If it weren't for Jim Carey I would've hated this film. He was just brilliant at playing the Riddler. Though I would like him to play the Joker one day

Nice scene between Val's Bruce and Jesse's Lex Luth... I mean, Jim Carrey's Riddler.

I love how he has the same glasses as dano’s riddler. Cool detail

Val Kilmer was a great Batman.

3:34 the moment he goes from Ace Ventura to Cable Guy.

0:53 nigma: ohhhhhhhhh, bruce wayne. bruce: no i am killian the mandarin..

I reckon Bruce Wayne has heard many crazy ideas like this. He’s very considerate and kind to people

"you were supposed to understand"...a line that connects Nygma to the recent Reeves' Batman with Riddler?

Am I the ONLY ONE who thinks Jim Carrey did a great job in Batman Forever?

This movie hits a soft part of my heart.

The fact that Paul Dino has the same glasses on the Batman 2022 that Edward wore here

The truly disturbing thing about this Nygma is that he has Riddler bobble heads and merch before he even becomes a villain

Nygma. Edward... Edward Nygma. You hired me personally. We've never actually met, but your name is on the hiring slip. I have it. Your doing a good job making yourself look sane there Edward... not!

Bruce already knew he was nuts but did try and meet him halfway, but the fact that he wasn't willing to wait clenched how nuts he was.

"It makes the audience feel like they're inside the show..... My first idea is called The Truman Show. I came up with it based on.... past experiences"

"And you are?" "Ligma. My balls."

It took me a long time to realize how terrifyingly insane this character truly was.

I think Bruce did the right thing turning down Edward's project. Tampering with people's minds and brain manipulation, that doesn't sound right.

2:01 That's funny how Fred puts his hand on his head as a way of saying, "Oh, the horror!!"

Looks like old Riddler and new Riddler nearly have the same sort of glasses.

Actually a very well written dialog. An also an interesting take on the villain. Just imagine if Facebook and Oculus VR joined forces, so much power in the hands of a few.

Eddie: you were suppose to understand Bruce: *holds batarang to his head* always have

I feel like the Paul Dano version takes this concept and makes it WORK weirdly enough, a clearly unstable but genius man who thinks the hero will have his back, but ultimately leaves him hanging due to the fallacy of his modus operandi.

“I’m sorry Mr.Wayne. Mr. Tetch is not feeling well today.”