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Brutal Cold Start International 1700 Loadstar 

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I was not planning on using this truck, but the plow on my pickup froze up. So I needed to get the old girl going. It was -5 F and all that was plugged in was a trickle charger. Watching the video back I realize that I let it turn over for longer than I should, but I did give it breaks.

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@russtaylor2122
@russtaylor2122 Год назад
As a repairer of starter motors, i approve of this message...
@craigdowney6438
@craigdowney6438 Год назад
Hats off to the batteries, (probably not an interstate) and the starter.
@labellamaffia
@labellamaffia Год назад
Wow this is amazing!! Love how much cranking it takes to finally start. Can you film from inside the cab next time? Would be good to see what you’re doing inside to get it started
@joelnordstrom8049
@joelnordstrom8049 Год назад
5-F ain't nuthin. I grew up in Northern MN with whole months of February 20-F the WHOLE month. THAT'S cold dude
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
Ha, I know man. I’m in south central MN. I believe it was 2019 that we went three straight weeks without going above 0F. At least it usually won’t snow at those temps.
@Javelinjoe73
@Javelinjoe73 Год назад
You would think the heat from the starter would warm the block up 😂
@robc.5745
@robc.5745 Год назад
That looks like an awesome truck ,Better than anything new.
@TheMarksman2187
@TheMarksman2187 Год назад
That thing started so easily I had to replay so I didn't miss where you bumped the starter!
@johnsammon1523
@johnsammon1523 Год назад
I liked some of the old trucks pull the decomp. Valve spin engine fast push comp valve in eng started iup
@rtw67intx
@rtw67intx Год назад
Sweet old truck! It sure wasn’t happy about firing up that day, but you got er going.
@rickcevora8848
@rickcevora8848 Год назад
I have never ever had an International start that hard. I have a 1944 k 7, With a blue diamond 6 cylinder. Still starts great on a 6 V battery. At 10 below
@auaiao9
@auaiao9 Год назад
You really worked hard getting it started. You stayed with it and stayed on it for several minutes then it finally fired up.
@vccranker
@vccranker Год назад
So amazing.
@Ron1987
@Ron1987 Год назад
I own a 1977 IHC 1600 load star school bus myself.345 2 brll automatic(Allison 545).Currently not running lost a bearing and dev head gasket. Very cool zzz truck!!!
@dewaynem559
@dewaynem559 Год назад
This is a true cold start,my dad had a IH dump truck with a 671 Detroit it was addicted to either any day cold it wouldn't try to start without its fix.
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
That’s awesome! I wish this truck had the old Detroit.
@dredgenyor1674
@dredgenyor1674 Год назад
@@saltolamachs well shoot make it happen, i know it isn’t hard to find an old Detroit out of a semi or something, but money i guess huh lol🤦🏾‍♂️
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT Год назад
*_BRUTAL!_* indeed! Cranks for 46 seconds, 45, 61, 60, 13, 38, 32, 23, 8, 24... then a handful of two and three second cranks before it caught. 😳🙀😵‍💫
@meekdook4236
@meekdook4236 5 месяцев назад
I can`t get the ”laughing like a starter”-lady out of my head when I hear this starter.
@ИванДогадин-ц6л
От стартера нагрелся двигатель и свершилось чудо!
@SuperKONR
@SuperKONR Год назад
Might want to change the oil now that you have a half tank of gas in the crankcase lol. That's sure a nice truck! Love those Loadstars.
@dsimon966
@dsimon966 Год назад
Man, even that snow sounds cold.🥶
@stevewarner8880
@stevewarner8880 Год назад
I drove old Loadstars for the Illinois Highway Dept in the 80’s, I believe they were 1850 Loadstars. 392 V8 engines. They were fun to plow heavy wet snows with, our mechanic put dual exhaust on them and big open truck mufflers, they sounded sweet under a heavy load pushing snow. Ours never started hard like this, not normal for a binder
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 Год назад
Old 70s era International Loadstars have a special place in my heart. They bring back memories of my childhood, riding in the buses. Only the Loadstars had that distinct "whine" sound to them that I remember so clearly. How I would dream of being able to drive one, just to relive those memories!!! Let alone own one like you are so fortunate enough to!!! That said, I can feel how hot those battery cables and starter must be getting as you're cranking on that engine so long. One last question. Why oh WHY is the engine painted yellow, instead of the OEM red?!!! Nice truck by the way. I still remember the shift pattern too. If it's a five speed, 1st and 2nd should be at the top if I remember correctly.
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
Thanks! Yeah, I now know what it did wrong in this video, I was flooding it with too much choke. This is my dads truck which he had the heads redone many years ago. He said he repainted it caterpillar yellow cause he thought it may give it more power! It’s a 5 speed with a two speed rear end, it’s reverse is top left but the rest of the gears are in the typical pattern.
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 Год назад
@@saltolamachs Ahhh the good old Cat engines. That explains the yellow colour. Interesting that reverse is to the top and left while 1st is to the left and down. That's the pattern used by Clark transmissions if I'm not mistaken. I always remembered the Loadstars having 1st to the top and left. So if you were to start off in 1st, you would be going down into neutral and to the middle gate and back up again. But if I'm not mistaken, 1st is geared so low that the engine is screaming its lungs out before you even reach 5 mph that you almost always start off in 2nd gear anyways. The school buses I remembered riding in had the more square shaped body than yours. I also remembered them being equipped with the 345 V8. Given that they were my favorite buses to ride in because of the whiny sound of the engine, I've always wanted to get the opportunity to drive one, one day just to relive those memories. I don't think I would have any problem driving it either, since I've now been turning wrenches at a dealership for a living for almost thirty years. It's nice to see trucks like this still on the road.
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
@@michaelchan8915 Well 1st gear is extremely low in this one. One odd thing tho is that 4th and 5th are basically the same ratio and the truck only tops out at 45mph. So there could have been something changed when it used to be a highway plow. It has the 404 V8, and what always stands out to me is how low or bassy the engine rumbles.
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 Год назад
If it was whining it must have had a Detroit
@202Braaap
@202Braaap Год назад
This is a Bomb cold start ! Tickin like a Diesel 🎉
@PangeaPangaea
@PangeaPangaea Год назад
Grazy how i felt a releave when it finnaly started running :)
@williamdavidson9009
@williamdavidson9009 Год назад
Those IH V-8s were always cold blooded. I remember in the early '70s being late for school because they couldn't get the buses started. It is probably even worse now because the gasoline is formulated for fuel injection and doesn't atomize as well in a carburetor when it is cold
@dwi189
@dwi189 Год назад
Back in the early 1980's, the school district that I attended had a fleet of International S series busses with the 345 V8. One windy rainy morning, our bus was late picking us up....The driver told us that the ignition systems on a number of the busses had gotten wet and the busses would not start. Our driver and some of his coworkers convinced the district to start buying diesel busses which they did going forward.
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 Год назад
Rubbish over here in the uk we have no problem what ever petrol you use
@frankpeletz1818
@frankpeletz1818 Год назад
Back in the day,when it was -20,we had to remove the spark plugs and heat them with a torch and get them cherry red ,then hurry up and install to get those 345s to start.
@nicholasrhodes4550
@nicholasrhodes4550 Год назад
This will hopefully remind you to check to make sure the block heater is plugged in next time.
@rms2365
@rms2365 Год назад
This guy must have a couple dozen extra starters.
@nt40lanman
@nt40lanman Год назад
OMG why do you hate that starter?
@stevenberkoski6825
@stevenberkoski6825 Год назад
My thoughts Exactly!
@patriot3431
@patriot3431 Год назад
My guess to use the heat off of it to warm the oil pan. I agree, long time cranking wears it out.
@hook86
@hook86 Год назад
I thought the same lol
@revgiles88
@revgiles88 Год назад
I mean killing it lol…I was like dang my guy let it cool off 😂
@Navyguy1990
@Navyguy1990 Год назад
Apparently, he’s never heard of starting fluid. A little of that and he’d already had it started without having to grind away on that starter. 🤦‍♂️
@mikesmith6665
@mikesmith6665 Год назад
Time for a compression test, TBI and maybe run hotter plugs in the winter. Definitely plugging it in.
@lonelybikr
@lonelybikr Год назад
Who needs a block heater if you just crank the starter till it heats up the block.
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 Год назад
Cary on like that and no starter
@timbertrans
@timbertrans Год назад
Reminds me of starting a d8 with pony motor.
@vccranker
@vccranker Год назад
Thanks for the Christmas gift!!
@billclements3879
@billclements3879 Год назад
I’m surprised you didn’t blow the muffler off???? We had an old I H fuel truck
@lovetocrank
@lovetocrank Год назад
Love the sound of that starter!
@vccranker
@vccranker Год назад
Right? You know it!
@jimperrin9291
@jimperrin9291 Год назад
Truck is beautiful
@alanmorrison3598
@alanmorrison3598 Год назад
Starter is toast!!
@erikg.2666
@erikg.2666 Год назад
You have some carb icing going on as it warms up. You might want to see if the cross over passage under the intake manifold is plugged up with carbon!
@robinprice4877
@robinprice4877 Год назад
How much choke does it usually need in really cold weather? Does the engine take long to warm up? Do you ever start it without using the choke?
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
So after I posted this video, I showed it to my dad (his truck). He said what I did wrong was I choked it too much and flooded it. It would have started pretty quick if I had let off of the choke. Learned from my mistake.
@robinprice4877
@robinprice4877 Год назад
@@saltolamachs Thanks for reply. I would love to see a video of you starting it, taken inside the cab, and not using the choke on a really cold morning.
@floodedcaddy
@floodedcaddy Год назад
@@saltolamachsIn addition to the choke how much were you pumping it?
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
@@floodedcaddy You can kinda hear it in the video. I pumped the gas before I even started cranking which I guess is not needed for it. I did a couple more times throughout the video as well.
@Military-Museum-LP
@Military-Museum-LP Год назад
Have you restored this truck? I see no visible rust.
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
No, it’s my dads truck. It was painted it many years ago but unfortunately there’s a good amount of rust underneath.
@marcfournier823
@marcfournier823 Год назад
I would have used a 4 second squirt of fluid. Save on battery and starter without damage to your engine.
@thetazva
@thetazva Год назад
Whats a battery starter? 4:49 Awfully hard on electrical and starter to keep cranking it.
@classicautorepair2100
@classicautorepair2100 Год назад
Lacking fuel. Could have started way sooner. Purposely didn't give it enough fuel to start until the battery was almost dead for dramatic effect.
@djwilson48625
@djwilson48625 Год назад
Jesus, must be a top notch lifetime warranty on that starter.... This hurt to watch. Honestly....
@truckerkevthepaidtourist
@truckerkevthepaidtourist Год назад
What kind of motor is that one? Been a while since that was started at the time?
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
It has the International 404 gas engine. It had only been sitting for a month or so.
@thomasforst7327
@thomasforst7327 9 месяцев назад
Nice truck
@gearhead9943
@gearhead9943 Год назад
Man I’d love to see more cold starts of your IH. Maybe next time from inside so we can see what you do to get it started
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
Thanks, I could maybe do that. Although, there's not much to it other than pulling the choke and turning the key.
@gearhead9943
@gearhead9943 Год назад
@@saltolamachs and pump the throttle I hope. That would surely help.
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
@@gearhead9943 definitely.
@gearhead9943
@gearhead9943 Год назад
@@saltolamachs would love to see the whole process! And hear it from inside. What you do with the gas pedal, choke, etc. carbureted startups fascinate me and I’d love to see a long one like in your truck
@vccranker
@vccranker Год назад
I started already, before it did.
@knobsdialsandbuttons
@knobsdialsandbuttons Год назад
Great video ! 👍
@garybalanesi610
@garybalanesi610 Год назад
That's a long starter roll. Good battery
@lovetocrank
@lovetocrank Год назад
Great sound!
@transylvaniatjtravels931
@transylvaniatjtravels931 Год назад
That's one grumpy international
@Blakep7704
@Blakep7704 11 месяцев назад
A simple shot of staring fluid through the air box??
@timbertrans
@timbertrans Год назад
I want to know that brand of battery cause im buying one
@Ratz8861
@Ratz8861 4 месяца назад
Surprised the starter survived that stupidity!
@robertelder300
@robertelder300 Год назад
Whereabouts in New Hampshire is this?
@williamhouk6880
@williamhouk6880 Год назад
I wonder how much gasoline you have in your oil from pumping that gas peddle? It just started and I caught a glimpse of that Accel coil that needs removed and tossed into the trash and a stock coil put back in its place. You'll get more spark out of a stock coil and a hotter spark too. Quit pumping that gas peddle while cranking the engine. That's why it's not starting.
@henningoelkers9819
@henningoelkers9819 Год назад
Question is, how much oil is left in the gasoline in the oil pan?
@dieseldan9686
@dieseldan9686 Год назад
Need to pump the gas while cranking. Not before.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey Год назад
Depends on the type of carburettor and it'll tell you in the manual. Solex and Zenith you do three pumps before you turn the key, others are different.
@Manzplained
@Manzplained Год назад
Weird. When you pumped it and it got fuel it starts….
@roysuomi9831
@roysuomi9831 Год назад
Jeez Dude. I swear I could smell that starter over my PC. If you plugged in the block heater, swept the snow off the cab and went in for a cup of coffee it would have started a little easier. Just Sayin'
@rogersayer5714
@rogersayer5714 Год назад
Make video of the truck plowing snow. It looks like a great rig
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
I do plan on making one. Just need another good snow.
@john6218att
@john6218att Год назад
when was it tuned up last ?
@Javelinjoe73
@Javelinjoe73 Год назад
1969
@sprucet9639
@sprucet9639 Год назад
How can you beat that starter to death?😔
@joez8914
@joez8914 Год назад
Quite a gallop in there. May have a cylinder or two with low compression.
@KlutchBelgium
@KlutchBelgium Год назад
Anyone know how much it's -5F in Celcius for normal country ?
@djwilson48625
@djwilson48625 Год назад
At -5, it's just stupid cold no matter where you live.
@michaelkaufmann8554
@michaelkaufmann8554 Год назад
$2.50 can of starting fluid. $450.00 starter 100% stupid
@blueticecho5690
@blueticecho5690 Год назад
I would bet if still running today the amp gauge would still be buried on the plus..
@Userrhek
@Userrhek Год назад
Sure you have a new starter for replacement
@АнтонАртемов-е9р
Хорошая техника к вечеру но завещал!
@SharpTexan71
@SharpTexan71 Год назад
I need a set of those batteries.
@chrisjohanson1486
@chrisjohanson1486 Год назад
DOPE
@realkingburgerking3384
@realkingburgerking3384 Год назад
The wall are made for vinyl panels
@hook86
@hook86 Год назад
Your truck is trying to tell you something bro
@louismazza9966
@louismazza9966 Год назад
One shot of starter fluid will save that starter.and the batteries
@saltolamachs
@saltolamachs Год назад
I probably should have. Just was determined to start it without doing that.
@vccranker
@vccranker Год назад
I would be the same way! Thank you for letting us enjoy it too!
@rudycarlson8245
@rudycarlson8245 Год назад
She was not happy!
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 Год назад
I see smoke from the he starter
@radoliz2
@radoliz2 Год назад
You should never pump the accelerator 5 times, on a cold day, until you determine whether it needs it or not. One pump and choke first. You flooded it by doing so.
@dennisbird2710
@dennisbird2710 Год назад
You wouldn't want to be running late for work 🤔
@fanda789
@fanda789 Год назад
To je ale šrot,Tatra by dávno jela.
@Johnny64ism
@Johnny64ism Год назад
Nice Job burning out t he STarter Genius Next time use the Block Heater.Thank God u don't start anything i own
@edjackson3680
@edjackson3680 Год назад
You were better off plugging it in, have a cup a cawfee and start it right up 10 minutes later.
@chriscruickshank9468
@chriscruickshank9468 Год назад
lmao...-5 is brutal??
@robertgriz2500
@robertgriz2500 9 месяцев назад
Was anyone else screaming to keep pumping the gas? That poor starter.
@goldfieldgary
@goldfieldgary Год назад
Should have pulled the plugs and cleaned them, but I guess if you couldn't be bothered to sweep the snow off the hood and fenders, that would be asking too much.
@djwilson48625
@djwilson48625 Год назад
A snort of ether would have been sufficient.
@cooperhall8185
@cooperhall8185 Год назад
6:30 6:33 6:34 6:35
@renatejohansen4509
@renatejohansen4509 Год назад
😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰
@cats0182
@cats0182 Год назад
A gas engine? Shouldn't be that hard to start even in cold weather. You've got severe problems.
@Button1Wood
@Button1Wood Год назад
Geez your going about it all wrong
@150cc_trike
@150cc_trike Год назад
I'd think of doing a compression test on that thing...just say'n...
@oisin1980
@oisin1980 Год назад
Please please heat up the air intake first... (International starters association)
@chrisdoran7673
@chrisdoran7673 Год назад
use silicone spray
@alexaguas8201
@alexaguas8201 3 месяца назад
Échale arrancador
@stevevlossak2443
@stevevlossak2443 6 месяцев назад
Man she is stubborn
@rogerhector5885
@rogerhector5885 Год назад
no mechanical sympathy
@Donald-jr1ce
@Donald-jr1ce Год назад
I must be easier to change the starter then plug it in in
@renatejohansen4509
@renatejohansen4509 Год назад
No No No
@renatejohansen4509
@renatejohansen4509 Год назад
det Voss not very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very godt
@renatejohansen4509
@renatejohansen4509 Год назад
you nedd help
@PhilippePolvorera
@PhilippePolvorera Год назад
Nous assistons la à la stupidité humaine
@armanrafayelyan467
@armanrafayelyan467 Год назад
👎
@robcorston5546
@robcorston5546 Год назад
minus 5 is no were near that cold mouse and you could have heated up the engine with tiger torch under the pan and saved wear and tear on the beast
@renatejohansen4509
@renatejohansen4509 Год назад
omaygot Omaygot its going to exslod 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
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