@@johniii8147 but still, it was definitely more comfortable with the 3-3-3 layout. I had a very comfortable time when I flew in one of the unrefurbished BA 777s in 2019.
OMG, at 10:52 you couldn't even tell the plane touched down. There was literally no impact whatsoever. That has to be the smoothest touchdown ever ! And notice the plane just tip toes after landing without seemingly turning on any reverse thrusters. AMAZING !
A lot of BA's 777-200's are old and tired. I hope they get the refresh they need, because whenever I've flown long haul with them, the food and crew have been great. It's only the hard product that lets them down.
@@tjr_aviation Is that a bad thing? I personally prefer the Airbus product it has a better safety record, and the A350 looks like a real nice aircraft.
@@rugbydazz2264 No, it's a great thing. I personally feel like it's a bit wrong to say an aircraft is unsafe because of it's record alone as the 777 has been unlucky over past decade crashing due to stupid pilot errors and being shot down, things that Airbus planes have crashed because of too. Before these unfortunate events the 777 had a flawless record so can you really call it an unsafe plane than something like 340 or 350??
Just subscribed to your channel. I love how you review airlines, service, food, etc on how it is. Also the other reviewers on your Simply aviation channel. Will be looking forward to more videos 😃
The 777 was designed as 9 across fuselage to fill the gap between 767 and 747, a gap that was ripe for replacemennt with end of L1011, DC10 and MD11 (all of which we 9 across). It was only after the initial failure of 787 sales that Boeing accountants decided to make the 8 across 787 sold as 9 across and then certified 777 for 10 across with reduced seat pitch, making alrline accounts happy. So the "standard" for the 777 should remain 9 across because from 1995 till recent years, it was 9 across and the 10 across fad is relatively recent so most of the 777's life was 9 across. It is a shame that airline accountants are going out of their way to make flying as uncomfortable as possible to push people to either not fly or pay for premium classes.
The 3-4-3 configuration on a 777 (and 3-3-3 on 787) should be illegal. It's absolutely terrible for anyone of a normal size to be crammed in there. Whenever I'm in those terible seats next to anything other than a kid or a petite woman, I wind up having to either sit at an angle, lean into the window cavity, or lean out into the aisle (and get hit by the carts and people walking by).
I did not expect that from Air New Zealand, an airline I always expected to be more of a full service carrier. So far only once I would’ve had to pay for IFE, that was on an Eurowings long haul flight and even there only movies except movies for children were behind a paywall.
Great video! Brings back memories of the 2000s when I flew the BA 772s quite often. The interiors may be old, but they are 10x more comfortable and spacious than many of its competitors that have installed 10 seats per row.
I took BA from Dubai to London in September 2021 when it was planned to be an A350-1000 but changed to a B777-300ER. The aircraft was completely full and I got an aisle seat in World Traveller Plus. It was a very horrible flight as the crew refrain me from recording videos especially when they're seen. I'll be flying BA's 777-200ER from Gatwick to Doha next week and I hope I got a window seat and the crew is fine with filming
Bro this was a 7-hr flight and you were offered a meal, bev and snack, and a whole sandwich before landing. On my American PREMIUM flight from Chicago to Honolulu (9.5 hrs) all we got was a small snack box with chips and things like that
Great Brutally Honest review. A lot of crumbs on the front section of economy class, and I noticed one of the crews grumbly threw what it looks like some unused blanket onto the seats 😂😂. Probably Monday blues…
Great video and the rather vintage seats remind me of those on SQ's now-retired B777-200s and non-ER -300s! Like the BA B772 you flew on in this video, SQ's "classic" B777s also never had power outlets in economy!
9:03 reduce plastic with paper cups for salad/dessert but include completely unnecessary plastic cutlery with some more plastic packaging in this snack box? 🤨
Great video ! I really like that this cabin still has the original 777's 3-3-3 configuration that was a standard when the plane was released and was after replaced by almost all airlines into the now classic 3-4-3 config. Keep up the great work !
Yet again David, thanks for the great review. It is a shame that BA are re-configuring their economy on the 777's to put 10 seats abreast. If they remained at the 9 abreast, they would remain super competitive against the likes of Emirates and others doing the route. 10 abreast makes it a very cramped and unpleasant experience.
My thoughts exactly. Very few airlines flying 777s in 3-3-3 these days. It's a point of differentiation and a huge competitive advantage, especially with frequent flyers (the sort of passengers any airline really wants to hold on to) who know the seat layouts and look out for this.
Actually those plans of 10 are scrapped under the new boss , the old boss Cruz who turned into budget airlines almost planned that . The new boss wants airline to return to its high end status
Emirates is exclusively A380 out of Heathrow (and Gatwick too in normal times) so I don't think BA has a chance here either way! There's no way I'd fly with them unless they were significantly cheaper than Emirates, though I'm only likely to go to Dubai in transit regardless.
We are going virgin Atlantic in may from sfo-Lhr we were going to go British airways but they are VERY exspenive but Our virgin flight is going to be on a 787-9
You rave about BA try flying to Cyprus in economy and you may change your mind. No legroom no in flight entertainment and no food or drinks. And all that for a nearly a five hour flight and ba class it as a short haul flight. Terrible.
I see no evidence of his flight being “below average” as you put it. Quite the reverse. David didn’t sugar coat anything, he merely recounted how the experience was for him. Why do you feel the need to be so aggressive? Look inward…
Flown BA many times to Dubai, always good service, however last time went with Gulf Air as alot cheaper, they were superb as long as you don't mind transferring in Bahrain.
For a Dubai to London flight this cabin is alright, but the lack of power outlet and these old IFEs would be hard to accept on this day and age for a longer, 8 hour-ish flight IMO. But a 9 abreast seating configuration on a 777 is a HUGE thumbs up in economy. Would love to fly BA in long haul, seems like a great experience. Thanks for this video!
BA has new business and economy class and decided to change back to a high end airline and not a budget one under the new boss . It would take time to feel the changes .. but with soft products like catering it's starting already
3:15 Make sure only to bring a power bank certified appropriately for aircraft use. Cheap power bank devices are liable to catch fire, making whoever brings one on-board an unwitting victim of potentially taking down a large commercial airliner. BTW, in the 1980s and 90s, perhaps beyond, we coped easily and happily without having USB or aircraft power outlets available (except up the back for shaving).
Flying a -200 to Vancouver in May, really hoping for an equipment change as I've seen some A350s on the same flight the past few weeks too, already dreading the 9,5 hours in this cabin
Correction - Etihad only flies into Abu Dhabi, not Dubai. DXB-LHR was one of my regular routes when I worked in the UAE and I almost exclusively used BA. The 777 interiors were a bit dated but I usually had a very comfy ride mostly in PE or Club.
I would never fly BA. They live in the past, service is terrible, staff they they are doing you a favour and don't really want to be there No try the alternatives so much better
we recently flew in economy from HON to ORD on a 10 across UA 777-200ER. tight vinylish seat very minimal padding but had all the port plus wi-fi work over the Pacific. UA needs to quit being cheap on meals.
I just flew over 6hrs on this plane. My seat had sunk in the middle and the screens didn’t work. Food wasn’t up to normal ba standard. Crew so miserable. I fly BA very regularly but can’t believe they are still selling premium price tickets for this not premium product.
7:41 - plastic is far greener than using cardboard and wood for everything. Where do you think cardboard comes from? You think it's recyclable? Have a read about it.
1:08 being a sucker for free lounge food Me to my parents: yes this is why I leave early so I can gain some extra calories at the Thai Airways Royal Prestige lounge before we fly. Thank you star alliance gold status!
Great video and well done Simply Aviation! I’m just wondering how people choose to fly such these airlines with poor cabins while they still have the chance to fly one of the gulf carriers with a young fleet age. No doubts the worst carrier among them has a better service than what BA does. I’ve flown so far on: BA, Lufthansa , AA, United, Delta, Gulf air, Oman air Qatar , Saudia, Emirates , Etihad and Air Asia.
I figure most of the B777-200’s have an updated cabin, it’s not too bad minus the lack of ambient lighting. The B747 however had it all including the latest IFE so I wonder why these aircraft couldn’t have been retrofit using the cabin fittings from the jumbos that were scrapped.
Hey! BA economy class meal finished around 5 years ago and seat changed many years ago. Also customers want to food, can be buy M&S food and drinks in the flight. Why upload this film few weeks ago??
M&S is only available on short-haul flights. Long-haul flights like this one still come with free hot meals in Economy Class. And these seats are still in use. This video was recorded in October 2021.
A long flight in Economy can be trying, but it appears that, except for power outlets, this flight met your expectations. The seating was reasonably comfortable and the food service was perhaps better than I would have expected.
I'd gladly trade a power outlet for a 3-3-3 economy configuration on a 777 any day of the week! You can bring your own power bank, but you can't bring your own seat.
Your meal service was certainly more generous than the one I got on my Chicago flight with BA a month later! (No bread roll and smaller version of chocolate bar). Hoepfuly BA will come through with their promised improvements...
In my opinion with anything is as follows: Old = Cozy, wide, superbly comfortable, well designs and absolute gold. New = Cramped, uncomfortable (varies), more focused on compacting and disregards any liking for customers and passengers, poop
Can’t believe the alternatives you mention are direct flights. I would have thought that for the other passengers the last thing they need is a youtuber filming. Omg. Flew with Emirates in the past, old and dirty plane.
Flying on an older 777-200ER FROM Jo'burg to Heathrow May 6th so curious as to what to expect as it has been so long since we have flown on a 777-200ER (last time was on an AA ORD to LHR many moons ago. D.H.
Would you rather travel in a fresh a350-1000 on tiny seats with a great entertainment system full of onboard cameras, detailed flight maps and movies in high-quality screens OR in a dusty 777-200 with super comfy old seats with a hardly working small entertainment screen
777 isn’t old. The BRITISH AIRWAS cabin is old. They can Changing interior and equipped by brand new and lux seat and IFE. Likes KLM , Air France . And.... another 777s operators
I was very disappointed with my British Airways flight from JFK to Heathrow London. Plane was very old and dated, the window blind wouldn’t shut as the screen was broken and the Headrest was wobbly. Flight on American was much better…
I love BA’s seats in economy. They are so comfortable. The head rest is the best I’ve ever had. One can actually sleep without one head’s lolling around. I do hope they keep those seats.
I smiled when I saw this. I was scheduled to be on a BA 773 to HND in 2018. What did I see at the gate at LHR but G-YMMP! My heart sank a little as I knew exactly what lay ahead of me, having been down the back of G-BYGD & G-BNLP to HKG in 2011. However! It was cosy and a great flight.
I’ve just landed in a ba flight from South Africa in a B 777 flew club world and it was shocking. The seats are complete outdated I was facing backwards and sleeping quite literally next to someone. Furthermore there is no direct aisle access when the other seat next to be is made into a bed, so you have to climb over them. Also don’t agree the soft product is good. The food is poor, it’s just served in glass, China and with metal cutlery. A frankly poor experience and would not recommend. I have heard good things about BA’s new business class but not worth the lottery if you get the old one (still very common)
I hate emirates. I had a trip from madrid to maldives (+plus dubai) cheap in business bc our flight agent find that one. At the back. (Maldives-madrid. We had some hours to be on lounge. And qe were starving. And tired. So in maldives lounge (Leeli Lounge) the girl said us that we had no lounge access. And i understand bc it said it and we wondered- why? We bought business. So we had to eat junk burger king. And my parents they were -fitness-. Then on dubai. We had 3 hours to wait for our next flight. So we get to the lounge. And the guy said: sorry. This is a special card. It only grants u fast lane and seats. Then we said. Its not our problem if u need money to pay ur taxes to live. We bought business. We get all things business. Later ill tell my experience on qatar
