You couldn't find 10 videos that show the range of that one I linked. I used to be more of a fan of bucket head I would know. I grew tired of him when I realized how limited he is compared to the great jazz fusion virtuosos. There are a couple of them. Maybe Alex Hutchings is more your style it would be completely ridiculous to say that buckethead plays at that level. It's just an absurd notion and you are either heavily biased or just don't know what you are talking about. I am a guitar play myself it helps a little bit with my judgment.
Sure . Great story. I play guitar myself. There are strengths and weaknesses in all good guitar players. The "my guitar player is better than your guitar player" meme is bullshit cultural elitism. There is no comparison. They play different styles. Why not compare Kurt Cobain to John McLaughlin while you are at it
Guthrie had me at 23 seconds with that hilarious little arpeggio. I just love his sense of humour and the joy in his playing. Buckethead is very good, but I agree with many others, Guthrie is on another level.
@@ricoamordavila7496 : Exactly, sadly he did not make more like that masterpiece! He's got some similar sounding songs (e.g. Melting Man), but not whole album.
one is an unbeliveably complete musician and the other is an outrageously good entretainer. both excell in music in their own unique way and thus succeed as musicians. there's no comparison, they're both winners.
Thumbs up only because of Guthrie. He appears to be a human being with emotions, shadowed in his riffs, whereas Buckethead is only interested in bpm or confusing sound distractions. Thanks for the upload.
When you get to the level of virtuosity that musicians like Buckethead, Guthrie, Shawn Lane, Holdsworth and the like posses, the question of who is better becomes puerile & irrelevant. The only relevant question is who's playing do you prefer do to your own personal taste. Any opinions claiming superiority for one or the other, are coming from uninformed fan boys that can't tell the difference between their own opinions and objective fact. So, when you type "Guthrie shits on buckethead" or "BH murders Govan" you're truly just saying "I'm an ignorant, obstinate dipshit."
I don't know, the way Jeff Beck plays the volume knob and tremolo arm is one of the few styles I haven't seen Guthrie Govan emulate. What's a song or video where GH attempts it?
What shades it for me is Guthrie's versatility. He's the ultimate all-round player. I do admire BH very much, but think his palette is a little more limited than Guthrie's.
Did you know that Bucket has released about 266 studio albums ? They're all different and have their own flavour, his palette is at the same level, if not even greater than Mr. Govan's
@@KickflipGnasty They have two different styles, attitudes and approaches. Trying to say one is better than the other is childish bullshit. So if you love Buckethead and think he's better than everyone else, be my guest. But comparing them is for the weak minded
@@Rumtoad1 Apparently you missed the point of my comment. I wasn’t saying either one was better than the other,(in fact if anything I’m a bigger Govan fan). I was correcting your usage of the expression “no comparison” itself, not suggesting who I felt was better. “No comparison” means “One is better than the other” not “We shouldn’t be comparing the two of them”. It’s a moot point anyway, forget I mentioned it.
I think shredding wise buckethead takes it but Guthries is way more versatile and makes better songs, but I think these two are a very bad comparison since their styles are nothing alike at all.
You obviously don't know the work of Buckethead to say that. The guy has over 300 solo albums plus all his side project he has over 450 credited recording. He's one of nature phenomenal force. His versatility is outstanding. Nobody is even close to Buckethead
If fame and inspiration on the masses isn’t a factor in top 10’s buckethead is easily the greatest of all time. There’s literally no comparison. Buckethead can do every single impossible thing that too guitarists are known for then make his own impossible that can’t be touched by other guitarists. Buckethead is the greatest of all time at playing the guitar, end of discussion.
@@prettyfly6750 agreed. Besides, comparing two subjective forces is pointless. There's ALWAYS going to be SOMEONE who doesn't like something someone ELSE likes.
I can say that with Govan he always ends up with something that still sounds like a guitar. Bucket head seems to leave that realm completely at times which is both astounding and mind boggling all at once!
Buckethead's musical output is unfathomable. I've dipped into maybe 2% of it and it's engaging and interesting. Guthrie Govan is an incredibly versatile electric guitarist who hasn't made a new album in 17 years, while Buckethead released 275 Pikes.
Bh probably doesn't play the right scope of styles for a proper comparison but that guy is incredible with a guitar in his hands. I don't believe anyone alive could claim massive technical superiority over bucket head
Both of them are excellent top guitarists, it's stupid to compare them, both of them can play whatever they want, we can be happy for everything they gave us and to enjoy their music!!!!!
Buckethead seems to have popped out of Salvador Dali's paintings, his music actually is quite disturbing yet very engaging, offering glimpse into the wondrous world of the unknown.
It's an obvious choice. It's Govan, it was, will, and always be Govan. Anyone whoever listened to Ancestral Solo - even for just once - would have the same idea.
why don't you go and listen to padmasana by BH and be back. then we will talk about versatality. now if you think guitar is about speed and technicality, I have nothing to say.
Listened it. And nothing's changed sorry. :) For me guitar is about emotions. All kinds of it. Buckethead is just a robot. On Padmasana he's just trying to imitate to be an emotional guitar player, and failed. Guthrie always drives me to an emotional journey. I mean all kinds of emotion not just being 'sad'. But that's just me. :)
Boy.... You've got a LOOOOOOT of catching up to do. This guy is the guitarist's guitarist. Every day he becomes more and more acclaimed by world class musicians. I've listened to a solid lot of guitar music, and this guy is within the best. Better than Satriani or Steve Vai to me.
Hang on though,to say his better than Vai? Vai is not the best but just take one more listen to Tender surrender and tell me that guthrie is better . Vai can write some kick ass music dude.They are just to different to compare,I actually think Greg koch is one of the best players out there and I would rather listen to him all day than Guthrie. but he is also so different. All these players have there own skill sets, I have just started listening to Nick Jonhston and its addictive..
Sgtcaco having listened to pretty much everything Guthrie and Vai released, I think Guthrie is one of the only few that is better than Vai. They're of equivalent levels in terms of composition (different styles so you can't really compare), but in terms of improvisation and versatility, Govan is at least as good, if not better than Steve Vai. But he's been hugely influenced by Steve Vai tho
Yvan Cluet . Guthrie is the Highlander of guitars. And when I mean, is that he can play like any of the masters. Bad ass Fusion virtuoso guitarist of our time. I agree with you. He's than Satch, Vai and much more versatile then Yngwie Malmsteem.
Incredible skill on display, both guitarists. As a player, just becoming proficient is difficult enough. I wouldn’t even know where to start to do most of what they are doing with ease. No matter how much I practiced. So many amazing musicians out there, appreciate them all.
Buckethead is great guitarist but, guthrie govan is all in one musician. He play all genres perfect, perfect feeling, perfect soul, great techniques, he play like he isn t from this earth.
My dream band : Guitar 1 : Guthrie Guitar 2 : Buckethead Bass : Victor Wooten Drum : Gavin Harrison Piano : Gleb Kolyadin Vocal : Einar Solberg Production/Arrangements : Steven Wilson
In regards to esoteric shit, Buckethead might have to take the cake, even though Guthrie does go down that road of insanity with some of the stuff the Aristocrats played, like Erotic Cakes ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X60TfBEAXUc.html )
I noticed I felt for Guthrie immediately. He is more down to earth in a sense. Both are great guitar players though, the greatest difference is Guthrie, who no longer is human but a guitar.
GUTHRIE - hands down... it's not even close... incredible musicianship coupled with amazing feel and technique... of course, this is my opinion, but I do know many high-level players and Guthrie is considered "THE MAN" by all of them.
@@muhammadaliffauzan2820 - you're CLEARLY a novice guitarist if you think BUCKETHEAD is in the same league as Guthrie. CLEARLY. Save your clever comeback - you are CLEARLY a novice.
So let me get this right, you're showing Buckethead playing stuff between songs while being sarcastic, and compared it to Guthrie's playing of an actual song ? *Disliked* (even though i like both players)
K.Z Prod Obviously this fucking guy don't like buckethead, and did this crap unfair compare. There is no need to compare, they are both master, with different style.
@@popzup Yeah If it was me who did the video? I could definitely show amazing Buckethead footage. It seems like they just pick the first popular video that they can find.
It’s no surprise that 70% of people here aren’t familiar with less than 5% of Buckethead’s music. And it doesn’t help when the maker of the video just shows random space-alien experimentation that he plays between songs vs Guthrie playing his best song. I’m not saying that Guthrie isn’t better, BUT most people here are thinking that Buckethead is just some nutjob gimmick clown show who’s only musical skill is using loads of effects and noises with hard techniques. It’s just not fair
Guthrie all the way. Buckethead has been one of my favorite guitarists for a long time and have always admired the great technical prowess but also wonders if that can be used on a musical context, until Guthrie came in!
People need to listen to the electric sea album by buckethead, see him live, and you'll really see how versatile he really is. Bucket just messes around on stage, he is a true virtuoso, bucket and Guthrie are both amazing, but to say one is more versatile that's just ridiculous, bucket can play anything from bluegrass to classical, anything.
Ring modulator and auto wah thought I heard some random chorus and perhaps a whammy pedal! Some crazy wahing pitchy laser battles! Sounds like a lunatic outer space adventure!!
Govan no question, hands down. He has COMPLETE control of the instrument from sound, to technique, to melodic creativity, to ability to play many different styles of music ....LEGITIMATELY! Buckethead plays fast.
I QUESTION your sanity. You obviously have not listened to Buckethead. I know it’s hard because there is over 700 albums, but do a rudimentary search. Did you take too many Covid shots?
@@bobmdvmamen brother, very well said. I agree that guthrie up there, but the most people who says that buckethead plays just fast, thats very very wrong, they don't know anything of him, he is a own genre.
I play guitar, 10 years of bad improvisations (Though I know the modes and the pentatonics ofcourse.) ... Honestly, Buckethead is a unique virtuoso. But Guthrie is simply the best virtuoso.
Both are guitarists all you have to do is stop judging and comparing... start thinking in the positive side of this amazing talented people... it's just everyone is different then the other they are creative in their own way so comparing people like this is somehow wrong or weird..Just try to stay positive both are amazing and different people you can't compare or judge that's my thought have a nice day everyone.
well, i always try to be as open minded as possible in music, i check every goddamn genre in existence to find stuff i like, even hip hop and pop, but not too much, gotta say, buckethead has made me cry several times with his music, guthrie - never, so my vote goes to bucket for his creativity, yes, guthrie is one hell of a player and has very tasty licks and playing style, but thats not all... you need something else, bucket MIGHT be less technical, but has that something else.
From my subjective point of view, the difference seems to be that Guthrie Govan is going for a concept that is much more mature and more contemporary, much more systematized.
I agree with people saying Guthrie is another level. In fact, he is awesome, but he is in a lower level compared to Buck. Buckethead is simply an alien, he have more than 600 discs, insanely creative, he can play any genre, blues, bluegrass, country, metal, acoustic, and even any instrument, like guitar, banjo, piano, and he use a lot more of variety of techniques and skills, Buckethead cannot be compared to any other, the guy is INSANE!
What are they doing comparing that masked man with the holy Govan? Govan's phrasing is special, he doesn't play anything meaningless and it doesn't sound monotonous. The masked man only plays fast
Lane, Guthrie, Buckethead... these are players that have reached a level where their style is so distinctive I can't really think of them in terms of 'vs' but only in terms of they found their own voice and are all worthy of being listened to carefully.
I don't know if you know this, but back in the day, Hendrix did not influence anybody. Hendrix was never a big hit or big influence. Hendrix was given infinitely a lot more credit after passing away, which is just sad. Hendrix had ONE major hit musically and was invited to TWO major concerts. I love Hendrix and some there were people loving his music back then, but those people were never a majority. Totally the opposite.
I'm agree with the technical abilities. But for the ''influencially'' part, I think its a bit complicated than that. First of all, let's put things in context: Jimi was playing during the 60's-70's, when Rock'n'Roll was the main and most important musical style (lets be honest its not the case anymore). Second thing is, no matter the century or the era, the style Guthrie plays will not be as popular as Hendrix. His music is exclusively instrumental, a lot of jazz fusion influences (which is not the most mainstream genre, even amongst the guitar world)etc. Ask a random people in the street who's the best guitar player, you'll have 90% chance to get Slash or other rock band guitarist.
There's comparison... Though for me( personally).. Guthrie is better than almost any guitarist I've seen, or heard about..coz he is intelligent in terms of guitar and his skills are all in all..! But the one who made this video comparison is surely in guthrie side coz Buckethead is awesome aswell.. And has my massive respect.. This video is just him fooling around he is like a Chemist while Guthrie is like a Physician..!
It is hard to compare musicians at this level… I think what people really mean is who do you like better? I prefer Guthrie’s musicality… And generally speaking he can do everything I have ever seen anyone else do plus all of the stuff he does that I have never seen anyone else do. Both artists are amazing because they are pushing the boundaries and limitations of the medium for their expression.
Both are the best in their own styles and techniques, i love both of them and if you ever listened to Buckethead songs you will know how beautiful they are thats pretty mental and for Govan its clearly enough that he got skills styles and techniques maybe better than buckethead but he can't create an unique sounds like buckethead does.
@@LegatoStacatp you just need ears...and an appreciation for good musicianship. Look at *both players left hand* and see the world of difference. The Buckethead choice in this "comparison' could've been better. Compared to what G.G disayed, It did him no justice whatsoever in my tiny opinion...
Music isn't supposed to be a competition and I'm pretty sure both guitarists know that. Considering that Guthrie was also talking about it on one of his videos.
Govan conveys a very good technique, but that's it. Buckethead touches the soul and makes you think every time. Today, August 02, 2023, Buckethead just released their 548th album. Also, he has no difficulty with deep expression and with perfect accuracy, in any musical genre. Each of Buckethead's albums is totally different from the music known throughout time and he is the most prolific artist alive. The fundamental difference between the techniques and skills of the two great musicians is that while Govan does not sing alone on stage (which is extremely important for an honest comparison), Buckethead is accompanied by percussion and very rarely there are other musicians on stage.🙏
"Govan conveys a very good technique, but that's it." You have to be kidding. You obviously aren't aware of his body of work. I won't compare these two bc it's apples to oranges and both great, but what you said of Govan is just ignorant.
@@Drath__ When you don't know something, don't comment nonsense. Comparisons are not made between smart and stupid, nor between trained or untrained, but between egos. Everyone knows everything except their own life. In short, for you, it's about Buckethead and the rest of the world. But Number 1 for eternity is Jimi Hendrix.
Shredding-BH is faster but govan has much more to it. Composition-obviously buckethead and is much more diverse than govan.govan composes jazz fusion only. Melodic- buckethead is way more melodic than govan Musical knowledge- govan has much knowledge than buckethead in terms of music and its theory. Overall i prefer buckethead because of his diversity and emotional shredding i guess in pike 65.both are unpredictable but govan notes are calculated while it seems buckethead just does whatever he wants.
Doubt it. They had Govan, they had Malmsteen, and they asked Eddie Van Halen, who declined. There’s no fear, there’s no jealousy. All this drama that people try to create, it’s a farce. Vai and Satch aren’t like that. They’re sweet guys.
Comparing is never good, especially if the musical styles are very diverse. Guthrie Govan played (years ago)in a small venue near Utrecht (Netherlands) at the invitation of Suhr guitars and Haar guitars. I bought my suhr guitar that same night Guthrie was playing on. When you see this man play live, you will see in what precision he plays. He is also a very nice person.
They both brought interesting things to the table but Guthrie definitely has more tricks up his sleeve. I honestly enjoy more Buckethead's albums then Guthrie's though.
Everyone choosing govan and claiming buckethead plays with no emotion and isn't a versatile player has clearly never listened to any of his music outside of this video. The guy has over 270 albums, each with different styles and tone. Just because the uploader used a video showing bh messing around on the guitar as opposed to playing seriously doesn't mean that he has no emotion and versatility. Taking nothing away from govan, amazing player, but you guys are clearly making uninformed claims.
I've seen BH live several times and have listened to a bunch of his albums. To me he is just a rip off of Paul Gilbert with usually crappy tone, vibrato, and feel. Sure he has his moments, but for the most part, I also don't 'get it'. Of all his stuff, maybe 0.001% is actual music worth listening to. Soooo much noise, garbage, and 'how many times do we need to hear this 80's lick' repetition... He's a good gimmick and a great 'halloween' show anytime of the year. The few things I don't mind are when he get's serious about blues/funk and doesn't shred, but it's literally once in a blue moon.
guitarists that can not be compared- joe satriani, buckethead, guthrie govan, yngwie, paul gilbert, al di meola, jeff loomis, rusty cooley, steve vai, frank marino, michael angelo batio, eddie van halen, randy rhoades, steve lukather, doug aldrich, jimi hendrix, john macglauglin, shawn lane, john petrucci, andy timmons, alan holdsworth, michael schenker, tony macalpine, duane allman, gary moore, vinnie moore, gary rossington, etc,etc! these are the cream of the crop!! and the rest of lynrd skynrd guitarists!!!
That is just bucket fucking around, it doesn't do him any justice at all. He may very well be one of the most well rounded guitar players ever. Anything from jazz, funk, experimental, progressive to ambient, hard rock and metal. You can see that on his over 200 studio albums, if you know what to listen to, he has some of the best music ever created to fit into almost any taste. His emotional and slow stuff from albums like Colma and Electric Tears are just very unique and beautiful. Has anyone ever heard a sadder song than Electric Tears? Have you seen his legendary live version of Whitewash? That solo wasn't even on the studio version, it looks like he improvised all of that on the spot. Not putting down Guthrie at all, he is one of my all time favourites as well, but "Wonderful slippery thing" is one of his best songs, so a great representation of him. But i can't say the same about Buckethead's performance here, it seems biased.
You can't compare musicality at all! They both bring something unique to the table. But from a purely technical standpoint GG is light-years ahead. Think about the fact that Buckethead took lessons from Shawn Lane himself and still, GG can morph into whatever style he wants and leave Buckethead in the dust, and he's got a pretty unique voice on the instrument himself. Mad respect for both, but GG takes the grand prize!
well ,,, there's no comparison .... one plays music, understands music , composes music .. has a huge range of virtuoso techniques ...the other has a lot of effects ...
In terms of improv, I say Govan wins that battle. But in terms of technicality, Buckethead all the way. I mean, they're both very good when it comes to technique... The one reason I have for saying that Buckethead wins in terms of technicality is because well he invented finger nubbing (which is a technique that involves tapping on with 2, 3 or 4 fingers on the all the strings which results in a fast, robotic like sound) and I haven't really seen anyone do that just as good as Buckethead.
Buckethead = Fisher Price shred sound and hyper speed (and actual note clarity), with ring filter, kill switch and envelope generator gimmicks thrown in for good measure, but most of the time, with no real focus on musicality. But when he *does* focus on some of his own melodic, musical themes (think "Nottingham Lace") , he can soar with the best of them. It's just that - out of the blue - he'll then blow it all out of context again with this insane, jarringly detached, Prokofiev-esque hyper robot playing routine. I'd almost say that his conceptualization of playing and performing is "avant garde", but that affords little musical context to go with any of it. He's an insanely original showman and entertainer, no doubt - and that may be where his real genius lies. I'm certain that Buckethead has so much more to offer, if he could just be tamed, and if he could dial these adolescent noodlings back. But musically? This is unlistenable. I'll take Guthrie Govan over him every time. Buckehead: You're an untamed, undisciplined beast of a talent on that mutant Les Paul of yours But grow up, focus on melody and musicality, and don't lose any of your creative fire. You could be truly great.
A few people here are clued in. Buckethead has his style, set very narrowly, Guthrie is the master of all guitarists atm because he can play proficiently every style and has amazing improvisation skills. Another poster said it, he has that 3 note per string Gilbert style licks, his trademark tap sequence and his kill switch antics. Outside of that, it's nothing too special. GG is just not even comparable, his musical knowledge is far beyond.
He has over 250 studio albums and they're each their own universe, how is his style set very narrowly? What you've seen here is just him messing around in between songs, which he does in every show he plays
Guthrie is a virtuoso musician. Buckethead is a virtuoso… something else. I like him and he’s entertaining. And I’ll be very glad to see him play some music one day.
Yes. Because we all judge great players just from 2 min clip on RU-vid made with a bias towards Guthrie right? I'm was a big fan of Guthrie. But all it took was one song from Buckethead to change my life. The next day i had a cheap guitar in my hands. This is something which Guthrie couldn't do to me. If you are interested in BH, i can recommend some albums. Cheers
Don't think you can compare. Guthrie can play anything Buckethead can but better, and with taste. He taught me for three years, and I saw him transcribe music harder then clip of bucket in notation on the board almost in one take. The clip you showed of Buckethead apart from the slap is pretty easy stuff, with a dodgy sound and pretty standard 3 note shred licks. Guthrie use of swing, note choice, tone, technique and taste makes it an easy win. Anyone who knows guitar, has a good ear, and knows their stuff would choose Guthrie anyday of the week. But this of course only my opinion and both are good professional musicians.
You idiot, how can he havetbe idea of the beard? Tell you what. Bucket is a robot made by alien technology and Guthrie is the alien who created him. Jason Richardson on the other hand is the negative side if Jason Becker. He took host in John Petrucci's fingers for a long time, hibernating. And after he got enough strength, he came out with full destructive power.
