The band was incredibly tight. We were all at least half Buddy's age, and he gave 200% every night. He set the standard for us all, and we better have kept it! Listen to the clarity of the sticks strokes. I'm glad to have been a part of it. Bob Kaye (Pianist)
I'm playing this in my university's jazz ensemble. I'm really looking forward to giving doing Buddy justice on this piece. The more I play it, the more I learn about the genuis behind his playing. Amazing tune
Legend! No words! Quite a few comments here re. the bass sound, electric vs upright etc. I was happy to meet Tom Warrington (bass here) when I was just 14 back in 79. We kept in touch and I interviewed him for a norwegian music magazine a few years ago and asked him why Buddy often prefered the el. bass. Tom said that it was a combination of transportation, clarity of sound and getting the bass loud enough to cut through in the various styles. Also, upright mikes were a sad chapter in the 70s. Anyway, whoever mixed this certainly cranked up the bass:)
The attack is different: An upright fades in, whereas an electric bass is right there from the instant your finger releases the string. And considering the force and energy he played with, Buddy might have preferred to have the bass right there with him instead of an tiny bit behind.
Best drummer that ever was or EVER will be. Check 'em all out....you'll see for yourself. Oh, there's some REAL good drummers.....None......NONE like Buddy. He's TRULY in a class by himself. There really is no "class." It's just HIM!!
This chart, "Ya Gotta Try" is a beast - like most of the up tempo Nestico charts. Just pushing the band isn't good enough. You have to drive hard, kick the shins out of it - as Buddy did like no other person I have ever heard. Had the chance to see this band around this time - in April of 1978. Changed me forever.
tscoffey1 I agree this is one of my favorite charts. I've never been in a group that could shine this ones shoes but when you get a great driving drummer, it just makes the whole group better.
got to love buddy total greatness, played with him in NYC at a bar called the Purple Pepper. I now live in Saskatchewan, seems like 50 million miles away.
WOW. anyone who thinks this isn't some of THE sickest big band playing ever...put some headphone on & play to this on drums. HOLY SH*T. just tried & BR's intensity, crispness, fills, set-ups is near impossible to cop. i love you, man.
Watch and study this chart with Buddy kicking the band, then watch the one with Vinnie Colaiuta playing the same chart. Not even in the same Universe. This is why Buddy was the best of the best - - - not because of his superhuman solos, but because no drummer in history has ever driven a band like Buddy.
beedoe51 BR was amazing. I'd use that word for him, but not for VC. VC is a good drummer. I don't care for his playing at all. Not my personal taste, but good for what he plays, none the less. No where near amazing, but that's just my personal taste. Guys like Mel Lewis, Joe Morello, Shelly Manne, Papa Jo Jones, Buddy, of course, and a handful more - - - those are the guys I consider amazing. The Master Jazz Drummers. I don't feel that guys like VC are anywhere near The Masters, on any level.
tunefultony johnson Right, those guys are bona fide Jazz drummers, and they have the Jazz concept in their playing. VC does not. I saw Mr. Roker years ago with the Milt Jackson Quartet. He really had that band swinging. A Master Jazz drummer, and very under rated.
damn this is sick...especially if you have ever played this chart. Buddy is unmatched & all these youtube uploads just keep me on my heels over & over again.
God damn! Another flawless work of art from the Master and his band! Just smoking! And then I wonder who are the three loosers that actually dislike this? What don't they like? The musicians hair? The stage decor? The color finish of the drums?...
My goodness. That much clarity in both ideas and execution at this tempo? Just, wow! Not the solos; the comping and ensemble playing. The whole band has great time but the way Buddy plays makes the arrangement clear and helps keep the band tight. I would think that it would be hard to NOT play in time with Buddy, as clear and powerful as his feel was - as long as you’ve got the chops to keep up, that is!
It would seem that as time goes on, the quality of the music recorded is inversely proportional to the quality of the technology available. What fantastic playing by Buddy (as always) and the band!
Oltre essere UN GENIO DELLA BATTERIA DIRIGE BUDDY LA SUA ORCHESTRA, LE PARTITURE MUSICALI PER I SUOI MUSICISTI LE SCRIVE BUDDY !!! IL VERO SWING JAZZ !!!!!!!!
The great Tom Warrington on bass; Barry Keiner on piano: One of Buddy's all time favorite rhythm section combinations. He loved these guys...He knew what he was doing.
The pianist here was NYer Bob Kaye who posted first in comment section. Sadly he just passed away recently. Barry was an incredible talent gone way too soon, tragic. :-(
The man did not know the meaning of 'laid back' and yet, still is the all time greatest. Drive is drive is drive is inspiring I guess. I love it, the energy the passion, the skill, and he had an album all about Basie--the definition of laid back--I don't get it but cannot get enough.
I saw him live in Yakima Washington, wow, talk about drive, for over an hour, it was non-stop, it was awesome, the longer they played the more hyped up they got, I mean to tell you, the air was full of excitement, he never seemed to get tired. Man, he was awesome.
HOLY shizzot ! that is one of the sickest, tightest versions of Ya Gotta Try (sounds like a Nestico arrangement?) i have ever heard. seems close to line-up and intensity for the "Buddy Rich Plays & Plays & Plays" album that i have & worshiped back in the day.
I love this whole concert. Their version of Birdland from this night was impeccable. Steve Marcus and Tommy Warrington really stand out as 2 of the best members of the band, besides Buddy of course.
Greatest Kung-Fu on Earth. I don't know if Bruce Lee was the Buddy Rich of martial arts, or if it was the other way around. But, my God, nobody ever played like that...Never will.
@bkaye Wow - you must have some great memories despite what people say about how Buddy treated his bandmates. I've been a fan of the Buddy Rich Big Band since the '70s - went to see him a few times. I still listen to Buddy's music all of the time. The whole band was on fire! Incredible!
Bem que nessa época, o Elvis Presley estava no auge da carreira, ele poderia ter chamado Buddy rich, pra gravar uma de suas músicas juntos, seria incrível essa dupla, Buddy rich e Elvis Presley.😎🤙
You have drummers and you have drummers who THINK they are drummers.????? Then along comes Buddy Rich and all hell brakes loose. Buddy always always always seperated all the so called drummers. Buddy sat behind a set of drums any brand any type., Buddy was the GOD the Holy Grail of drumming. Every One in the Universe has an opinion. With out a doubt Buddy to this date still holds the title of the Worlds Greatest Drummer. no ands ifs or buts.. case closed.
Denny Farrell Here Late Night Chicago Radio. Buddy 5 Star performance. the arrangement is somewhat different than when I was the MC for Buddy in Skokie back in the 80's Great sounding band.
the master at it again! buddy rich is the man. period. just watch how he pushes the band sheer power, energy and mastery of the instrument. his fills are so right on.. because if you really listen are phrased perfectly to the feel and momentum of this chart.. of course buddy did this consistantly. compare this to 'vinnie coluita's" rendition and the difference is in your face.damn what a monster buddy rich was.......a legend!
If y our a drummer and you try and play this tune form the chart and you can even keep up with it and not screw it up you will never kick it in the ass like Buddy does. Absolutely phenomenal in every way and he makes it look easy as hell. Even if yo'ur a horn player, this is a hard one to play.
Anyone else notice that what is actually going on here? The band drags every once in a while (so slightly...) and buddy yells at them; then they play the next phrase tighter. Scary dude!
The band drags slightly every once in a while? Good god, get a pair of hearing aids, man. This band is hot, clean and smoking. The entire set was superb.
@MrSunofbeach Not Bobby Shew playing lead. By '78 he was long gone from Buddy's band and was playing lead for Toshiko Akiyoshi and Louie Bellson. That's also about the time he started his combo and was getting out of lead playing. Liner notes say that was Chuck Schmidt playing lead. Could be - I never saw him live and don't know what he looks like. Based on other charts I've heard it doesn't sound like Chuck Schmidt, so not sure.
I play trumpet. my bigband gonna try this song. Who is that guy on lead trumpet? maybe.. bobby shew??? Anyway, This is awesome!!! buddy Rich... He is one of the most great drummer. Especially.. on Big band, Swing!!!
@signupandmakemoney In this part of the piece the 2nd trumpet play lead, so the lead trumpet player can take a break after the very hard shout chorus, to play his high-notes in the end :)
"You guys...You guys are not my kind of guys. I'm going to take you outside and show you what it's like. See how well you do without all the assistance."
Barry Gibson: Buddy was leaning so much the trumpet section began rushing the accents at the end, losing the independency of the quarter note triplets!
@scooter175971 well i was sorta joking lol but ya im learning jazz atm. So that was true he had a bad attitude? Some people say that if u knew him he wasn't so idk.......
80-80 and 89, actually. BD didn't play it in 79. Opener in 79 was Chicago III Suite. Strangely, none of this was quoted in the tag ending Wayne wrote from 80-84 (which I played...soprano in 84). The tag had parts of La Suerte de los Tontos, New York Fantasy, and Legend of a One-Eyed Sailor, but not YGT or Chase the Clouds Away (Jerry Seawright's fave BD chart)
