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Buffalo Sabres Trade Casey Mittlestadt to Colorado Avalanche for Bowen Byram 

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@codymerrill9326
@codymerrill9326 5 месяцев назад
Great trade in my opinion
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Hopefully it turns out to be that way however to put into context Byrams analytics(even though i am not numbers nerd) have gotten worse every single year in the NHL not a good trend currently.
@neilkennington2397
@neilkennington2397 5 месяцев назад
Excellent trade! Relax , believe in Adams plan ! Byram was a top 4 pick ! You will be eating your words my friend ! Byram was buried in Colorado , he will be shine in Buffalo! He can play the left or right side and is comfortable doing this . Put him with Power asap on the right side to see if it works. If it doesnt then go out and find Power a stay at home D man like UFA Brett Pesce Carolina and say good bye to Bryson & Jokiharju this summer. Middelstadt was weak on the puck and on faceoffs. Not too mention a turnover machine! Sign a veteran 4th line centre this summer like Trenin Nashville, Roslovic CBJ or Kevin Stenlund FLA this summer as the Sabres have been WEAK on faceoffs for years ! Put Greenway on the 4th line with Robinson or Rousek and keep Krebs as your 3rd line centre. With Casey gone and Okposso Jost, Olofsson and Girgenson not resigning theres a spot in the top 9 for a prospect like Kulich , Savoie or Rosen in October. Sooo should we do the Yzerman plan and bring in UFAs and turnover more than half the roster and bury all of prospects in the AHL ?. Sorry not interested in doing that . Love and understand your Rant ( im 59 , been a Sabres fan since day1 ) but trust the process ! All this being said I do think Adams will bring in a new head coach and staff this summer who will demand a more physical forecheck and to be tougher in front of both nets Thanks for the video .
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Once again WHO CARES WHERE HE WAS DRAFTED that literally means NOTHING. Also he wasn't buried he played nearly 20min a game in Colorado. Not only that saying Mittlestadt was weak on the puck is literally insane he was a monster along the boards likely their best actual player especially in the offensivw zone and outside of Tage Thompson had the best hands on the team. We can only HOPE Krebs reaches/surpasses how go Mittlestadt was. Last night not a ringing endorsement by the coach as he played him less than 11min ans he was a -1 w/ just 1 shot. Also yes Detriot is in a playoff spot Buffalo isn't. At this point just get me to the playoffs. Longest active streak in pro sports and longest streak in NHL history by FOUR years. I hope Byram is AMAZING and can actually play a full season he will need to to make the trade worth it.
@Optimization_Coach
@Optimization_Coach 5 месяцев назад
Some good points, but some push-back here as well. Casey was hardly "WEAK on the puck". I was very sour on him and I turned out wrong. He developed nicely (somewhat slower than I would like), but he made me look bad over the last 2 seasons. This season he was tenacious in both zones. He was usually around the puck and created MANY turnovers. Krebs MAY take a step forward assuming he gets more ice time now. He has that potential imho. We have 19 games left to see how the staff manage this damn mess. Interesting to see how the team responds down the stretch as well. If they pack their bags for the golf course or they put the throttle down and meet the challenge! We shall see. Oh... I miss Quinn and so does this team!
@neilkennington2397
@neilkennington2397 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 in my defence i when said Casey was weak on the puck those were words from a former NHL scout who now works for Sportsnet here in Southern Ontario. Also trust me nobody is more pissed that they lost to the leafs last night. I grew up in Toronto and now live 45 min east of the sewage pit . I hate losing to them. About krebs being 3rd line centre next year, what do i know , i guess barring a trade before tomorrows deadline Krebs is 3rd line centre for the rest of the year but who knows what Adams will do this off season , maybe he wont resign him and go get 2 veteran centres as 3rd & 4th lines. Sounds like Casey was one of your fav players, been there done that , and guess what it worked out! Before you were even born Scotty Bowman traded my two of my fav Sabres in Danny Gare & Jim Schoenfeld to Detroit. Mike Foligno made me forget about the aging Gare pretty quickly. Speaking of the Folignos , the Sabres though have never recovered when they traded Mike's son Marcus Foligno as i believe you even said a few weeks ago that Marcus is the type of forward the Sabres need now .
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
@neilkennington2397 I loved that you called Toronto a sewage pit lol also Casey was one of my favorite because I have been banging the table about how good he could be for years after watching him live at world juniors I thought the Sabres completely mishandled him and almost ruined his career and now that he is reaching said potential they traded him SMH. that's why I was upset. If Tage and Cozens looked even remotely good this season I wouldn't have minded as much
@neilkennington2397
@neilkennington2397 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 quick story about the sewage pit you probably already know this, but for me being 45 min east of Toronto its cheaper for me to drive to buffalo , 2.5 hour drive and buy 2 level 100 seats against say a top level team like Boston ( i wouldnt go see the leafs as the lineup back into Canada after the game is brutal ) go for dinner at say the Southern Tier Brewery then it easy to buy tickets at the Mauselouem aka Scotiabank arena and watch the laffs and Sabres! . That arena is also the WORST as the corridors are soooo narrow. Last night I couldve paid $360 for 2 level 300 seats! No thanks .Those prices are up from last March as i paid $260 to see Buffalo and the leafs . And these prices are buying from season ticket holders who ive known since High school.. Love you're videos keep up the good work.
@BlackIjs
@BlackIjs 5 месяцев назад
Casey was not the best centre all season long. 3 pts in February? Obviously one of the left D will play right side, and it likely will be Byram or Dahlin (until Samuelsson's back next season). Supposedly that's gonna be a pair against Nashville. Btw, that 'ghost all season' Cozens had 27 pts since December... the exact number of pts Mitts had since December. I think you might be overreacting a little bit :)
@Optimization_Coach
@Optimization_Coach 5 месяцев назад
Samuelsson is apparently made of glass. I would have moved on from him with all the injury issues. Seriously here.. He is always injured.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Where was Cozens when the Sabres still had a shot at the playoffs early in the season 🤷‍♂️. Either way if Tage and Cozens had been earning their large contracts which they currently aren't this wouldn't annoy me as much
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
ALWAYS injured Sabres should have traded for Zadorov earlier. Big physical nasty Dman something Buffalo doesn't have at all
@BlackIjs
@BlackIjs 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 absolutely
@gutetime3039
@gutetime3039 5 месяцев назад
Finally a Sabres fan who is actually being realistic about this situation! So sick of potential as well! You spoke exactly how I felt! We needed a defensive defenseman and we do the opposite!!!! So sick of this!!!!! We had so much leverage and we once again f*** it up!!! We will never change until the entire upper staff changes. I could care less about prospects and etc. Our developmental staff is f***** garbage!!!! That's why all the hype we have for these prospects does s*** was Chris Drury or Briere a prospect? Nope!!!!!! Pure leaders that actually wanted to change the culture and it did. It's also why Miller kept getting more and more upset with the direction of this team!
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
It's been 13 years after this season I am just done with playing for the future
@gutetime3039
@gutetime3039 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 on top of that I keep reading people saying oh trust the Adam's process over yzerman.... HAS BUFFALO BECOME THAT F**** DUMB?????? It took the wings half the time to become a legit team again. They have a system that can actually develop the talent, we don't! They have leadership from yzerman! That's exactly why Patrick Kane went there and not Buffalo, but hey trust the Adam's plan!!!! Next year will be no different until the entire game board meaning ownership and everyone is gone. Every team that is successful has strong leadership from management and down. We don't! That's exactly why nothing changes! I will not be surprised if in two years Dahlin request a trade and wouldn't even be surprised if he went to Detroit. That's all the wings are missing is a #1 offensive defenseman. Yzerman will find a way to fleece Detroit. Just like UPL will pull an Ullmark and leave this sinking mess of an organization. Its such a shame, because Sabres fans deserve so much better. I always speak of the glory days of the city coming together to unite under one team. It didn't matter If you were homeless and etc. Everyone United under the Sabres. I miss that so much!!!!! All of us want is a competitive team. People talk about the Bills, but my best memories are the Buffalo Sabres. Those days were absolutely magical. Even when the plane came crashing down and the Sabres played San Jose who at the time were the best team in the NHL. That entire night at HSBC arena was magical! There has only been two times I've seen the magic since then and that is RJ night and Miller night and it was an honor to be there. If the team in front and the entire organization would just realize and look around this city and just buffalo fans In general. That would get me so hyped to come play for this team. Instead it's a team that is a complete mess and we have nobody to thank but the Pegula's and the direction they have led this team. It's so f***** embarrassing!!!!!!
@dylanbaker9936
@dylanbaker9936 5 месяцев назад
Well he scored on his first shot as a sabre and assisted on the only other goal scored
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Good hopefully he can be just as good as Dahlin
@AndreInThe416
@AndreInThe416 5 месяцев назад
Byram is the superior player IF he can stay healthy. Zero doubt.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
So far that is proven to be correct. IF healthy this is the most games in a season in his young career
@saintsabbathi
@saintsabbathi 5 месяцев назад
Looking good so far. Almost looking like Byram was the missing piece.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Seems like basically swapping out E. Johnson for Byram on the back end has made them play alot faster. He has looked very good 👍
@LetsGoBuffaloooo
@LetsGoBuffaloooo 5 месяцев назад
Hey man! Love the channel but I think we need to let this trade play out before we panic. Byram is a great player who will be paired with Dahlin and allow Dahlin and Power to flourish. Give it a season or two before we write it off as a loss. I think you’ll find that the gap Casey filled will be nicely replaced by a prospect like Kulich or Savoie.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Kulich has taken a major step backwards this season in the AHL, and savoie is likely multiple seasons away from being good in the NHL. I am tired of waiting I want results. 13 seasons is embarrassingly bad and more seasons out of the playoffs then from 1970 to 2011 which was only 11 altogether.
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
Krebbie better get a shot at center, last game he played only 10 minutes or so. Give the guy a chance to replace Minnesota Fats. They are probably not done making trades
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Minnesota fats lead the team in scoring and was their best player all year long. We can only HOPE that Krebs turns into a player as good as Mittlestadt. Last night wasn't great either he was a -1 with 1shot only positive was he won 4 of 6 faceoffs
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 Casey had only 2 points or something low in last 10-12 games, he’s no impact player. Not a shooter, not good on PP or faceoffs, skates average. Tage Thompson had 38 goals then 47 goals, he’s the top center, he will be fine, trade for a better winger for him, ditch Skinner to bottom lines, Cozens had 31 goals and 68 points last year playing with two rookies and only 16 minutes, he will be back fine next year as will Tage, all we need is Krebs to be 3rd line center, he is good two way, hits, fights, blocks shots and is just as good at passing at Fats. Remember, it took Casey 5 years to be any good, we should not judge Cozens or Krebs until they are 25. It’s a rebuild
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
@charlieb308 we have been rebuilding for 13 seasons I am done with a "rebuild" get better by any means necessary at this point
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 our GM has tried to trade for guys but they wouldn’t waive no trade clause to come here, the owner offered Suter and Parise 120 each to play here and both took less to go to Minnesota. I’m so glad we didn’t get Timo Meier and Jacob Chychrun both guys suck this year. NJ fans are pissed with Timo. No free agents will sign here, no player will waive no trade clause to come here, Adams is doing the rebuild the right way, they should be in the playoff next year.
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
I feel since the GM had zero contract talk with Mittens that means he feels Savioe, Kulich, Benson, Krebs or Ostlund can replace Casey as center soon. I think Savioe will be the guy. Bryam has 8 goals, Casey 13, Byram had 10 last year in 42 games a pace of almost 20 goals, so we have a D man who could score just as many goals as a center who played 18 minutes. Cozens has 13 goals just as Fats did. Cozens will be better next year he’s way younger, it took Fats 5 seasons to be any good. Bryam was outstanding in playoffs when aves won the cup, highest plus minus in 40 years. 9 points in 20 games.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Also We HOPE Cozens will be better next season however it appears he can't drive play on his own and requires Jack Quinn to be any good. And again I said in the video we are banking on potential over known production. Aren't you tired of waiting for guys to reach potential instead of keeping guys who have finally reached it and are in their prime. Byram also has missed almost as many games as he has played due to injury. Not only that but he is soft just like all other dman outside maybe Clifton on the team. Hopefully kid looks like Bobby Orr on the Sabres and can actually play a full season for his first time in his career
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 Cozens looked amazing the other game with two short handed goals, he is an excellent skater. I’m sorry they traded Casey, I know you liked him, I actually would have signed him before season started but I would have only paid him 6 million, he probably would have signed that. Cozens is just going through the young player over thinking thing, he put too much pressure on himself after last season, thinking too much. Mike Peca said Cozens would be the best two way player on the team soon, I agree with that, too bad Peca wasn’t kept and we have loser coaches like Ellis.
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 Cozens has the same number of goals as Casey in less games and less icetime. By seasons end Cozens will have more goals.
@Optimization_Coach
@Optimization_Coach 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775I think we really don't talk enough about what Quinn brings to the game. He is sorely missed IMHO. Great points for sure.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
@hormonesmatterPhD 100% Quinn is likely going to be a lesser Mitch Marner able to drive play from the wing. Just not a great look that your 2C that you just signed longterm can't drive play on his own
@ryanmeyers17
@ryanmeyers17 5 месяцев назад
Another problem with getting a "win now" player is that most playoff teams are looking for these guys and are actually willing to trade picks and prospects. Another point is that almost every older player has buffalo on their no trade list, so that will limit the players they can actually trade for. I agree with what you are saying, but your theory in practice is a lot more difficult than you think.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
I am not even saying this season as at the trade deadline it likely wouldn't happen. But what was the rush to trade mitts? He was completely under control and there was no rush
@Mralanyrx
@Mralanyrx 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775I guess they really valued Byram more than we did, we got to see a glimpse of his game but he has issues defensively or under pressure for sure, all we can hope now is that he can be that top pairing guy alongside Dahlin. Doesn’t need to necessarily drive his own pair but a partner with Dahlin who actually has puck skills is what we’ve been looking for a long time. I hope it works out
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
I also hope it works out and alot of people are saying he has an opportunity to be really really good my question is do we pay him long term like Power? How much would you realistically spend on defense
@Mralanyrx
@Mralanyrx 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 Byram? You go with a bridge deal, or a mid term deal, something like 5mx4, which would still he until he’s 28 years old and since his injury prone it’s a better to go shorter term
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
If he continues to play this well he will likely command alot more and potentially even arbitration if they can't reach a deal
@JasonSmith-pe5py
@JasonSmith-pe5py 5 месяцев назад
Make some great points but as an Av fan-if Byrum stays healthy,& you guys are patient with him-he really has superstar potential,& is a great kid.I work at the arena here,& we hear nothing but great things bout him as an individual.But you know a lot more bout your team. I do think this trade could be win/win for both sides.We solved the GAPING 2C hole we have had since Kadri left & just significantly increased our odds at another Cup-but in 2 or 3 yrs-I think Byrum will be the best player in the deal,& I'm fine with that-as much as I'll miss Bo. He has had a rough year but he was great in the Cup run,& better lately.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
His first 2 games offensively he has been impressive looks like he has a great shot good offensive instincts however money will also be an issue with him as well. Dahlin next season makes 11 Power makes 8 Samuelsson makes 4.25 and if Byram continues to play well they are looking at the 8M(maybe more) range likely l. This means your "Top 4" would be roughly 36% of your salary cap. Also it's not like the Sabres needed a TON of help defensively they ranked 13th in goal against in the NHL(at the time of the video) however offensively they were 23rd. Just not really sure what the plan is in Buffalo at this point.
@JasonSmith-pe5py
@JasonSmith-pe5py 5 месяцев назад
It is a strange mix-I would think youd have to trade 1 of them down the road.But since you arent really a playoff contender today-it could work out in the future.​@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@larrybarge3345
@larrybarge3345 5 месяцев назад
Got to say,im laughing at the rant and your not wrong
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Sometimes I can't be level headed and look on the bright side I just gotta rant lol
@Optimization_Coach
@Optimization_Coach 5 месяцев назад
Man, tough one for sure. Casey was doing so much in both ends. He was on the ice for so many goals. SMH.. Time will tell I suppose, but you make some solid points.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
I am just tired of playing for the future. 13 years is enough
@Optimization_Coach
@Optimization_Coach 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775Yep, I get it. Or, we develop a player and then TRADE THEM.. lol I am in the FIRE GRANATO camp either way. And assuming KA cannot do that... FIRE KA and allow Lindy back as GM and lets see his moves. I am open to that!
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
@hormonesmatterPhD my expectations for the Sabres are crazy low I just wanted them to be in the hunt and I would have been happy somehow they continue to disappoint every season
@scottlaboch4534
@scottlaboch4534 5 месяцев назад
I agree 100% withe everything u said...
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Just so over waiting for this team/players to be good. 13 seasons is ridiculous
@jamesmiller6217
@jamesmiller6217 5 месяцев назад
Well, I think Byrum watched your video and made made your take look silly after that amazing debut.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Good now he just has to raise the level of the rest of them as they look HORRIBLE against the preds
@philipgibson9091
@philipgibson9091 5 месяцев назад
I like Casey...but if he was going to be traded this is the perfect scenerio. A #4 overall pick....nobody parts with them. You may be right but i doubt it.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Where the guy was drafted means absolutely ZERO its all about performance. If he continues to blossom into a top 4 defenseman I would be alot happier. The only problem is if he blossoms into a top 4 Dman Buffalo will have to pay him and next season(and atleast 6 seasons beyond that) they will already have 23.285M for just 3 of their Dman how much should you really spend on your Dmen
@meteorhawk06
@meteorhawk06 5 месяцев назад
I also follow the wild. I HATED Greenway. They talked about how good he was in the juniors, but his play is garbage
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Greenway is just very very mid. A solid piece for the PK but should never be relied upon to be any short of meaningful scorer OR physical presence
@realdealprimer
@realdealprimer 5 месяцев назад
Sabres won the deal 100% 100✓
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
At this moment it appears that way as he has been VERY good offensively in these 2 games however if he continues to play at this high of a level he will command atleast Owen Power money. How much money do we want tied up in defense?
@realdealprimer
@realdealprimer 5 месяцев назад
@@sportstalkbuffalo3775 you build from the back out. Our offense last season as amoung the best in the league, it's the style which we play that hasn't been effective, it will come around. Defence and Goaltending wins championships. Byram is gonna get a chance to thrive in Buffalo, the avs were desperate for a 2C and over paid for Mitts letting Byram go. Also, Byram has played with Krebs at 9 years old, Cozens teammate in midget and during team Canadas and teammates with Levi as well. They all dreamed of playing together in the NHL. Adams knows what he's doing. 🧠
@06XTOR
@06XTOR 5 месяцев назад
Colorado Avalanche fan here we're going to miss Byram, he has the potential to be special. He was great on our cup run and led our team in ice time. Sad to see him go but we had a huge hole at 2C since we lost Kadri and needed to do something. I don't know why he was struggling like he did this year and even a little bit last year but I think in the end you guys will be very happy. That being said I think Middlestadt will be even better offensively in Colorado. I feel your frustration though. We are fortunate here with this team. Go Avs. Would love to see Buffalo become a contender in the future.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment I appreciate you watching. Hopefully it pans out for both teams well. I have been a Mittlestadt fan since I watched him live at juniors I am glad he is getting a chance on a good team. Hope he adjusts quickly and starts showing off his playmaking ability
@michaelandrew8493
@michaelandrew8493 5 месяцев назад
A hole? We have krebs, kulich, savoie, ostland
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
Which brings it to the point I made about potential over production none of those guys have proven themselves at the NHL level. Krebs is the closest a pure playmaker but we have to HOPE he can produce like Mitts. Kulich isn't ready for the NHL Savoie is a COMPLETE unknown as sure he is tearing up juniors but hasn't played against grown men yet. Ostland only 19 and also only has 21pts in 36 games in the SHL. None of those guy can come in and immediately give you the production Mitts has over the last 144 games. Hopefully Krebs can fill in as he is likely the closest
@oNeGiAnTLiE
@oNeGiAnTLiE 5 месяцев назад
Sabres have failed miserably once again. Middlestat can not be replaced period. Even if he is only a #2 center. I see no question to the fact Casey’s durability,speed and skill will have him as a #1 center soon. As he has been all yr with Sabres. 👎 On this trade. Fools. Sure I saw Bo’s first 2 games. Looks like perhaps a great player. A dime a dozen player.
@sportstalkbuffalo3775
@sportstalkbuffalo3775 5 месяцев назад
After looking at the lines the last 2 games it's clear they what I said was true in that it has created a pretty big hole at center currently. Hopefully it works out for the Sabres however I am also concerned about the amount of money tied into the back end if Byram continues to play well
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