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@alleybox
@alleybox 3 года назад
took christmas off but we back!! hope everyone had a good holiday!! :)
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 3 года назад
💛💛💛💛💛 missed you
@raniasheikh5730
@raniasheikh5730 3 года назад
welcome back alley !! i hope your christmas was lovely
@Pumpkin3.14pi
@Pumpkin3.14pi 3 года назад
I was a junior when Columbine happened, and what made it so different then other school shootings was how badly the media covered it. It was the same with why the Vietnam war was so much more controversial. It's one thing to hear about it, it's another thing to see it. The same thing happened with Columbine. We were watching the coverage in school.
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 3 года назад
Arent the episodes already done though?
@mj6866
@mj6866 3 года назад
Welcome back! Episode 17 was aired on 3/16/1999. Episode 19 aired on 5/4/1999. Episode 18 aired on 9/28/1999. So it looks like the show was on a scheduled break when the Columbine shooting happened on 4/20/1999.
@Carabas72
@Carabas72 3 года назад
I love that school newspaper headline. "Apathy on the rise; nobody cares."
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
lol
@escalatordropdown5057
@escalatordropdown5057 3 года назад
One tiny bit I love: Xander is SO panicked by Buffy being able to read his mind that he doesn't even get the multiplication tables right when he's trying to distract himself.
@zoesmith12
@zoesmith12 3 года назад
I KNOW and i only noticed that recently. i never even took the time to do the math i just kinda accepted it LMAO
@scot4187
@scot4187 3 года назад
Howcome this comment was able to be posted 1 month ago when the video was just uploaded? 😄 Oh was the video just made public from unlisted or something?
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 3 года назад
@@scot4187 early release on patreon vs ate release on RU-vid channel
@roonarific1086
@roonarific1086 3 года назад
And it's almost a callback to the 'The Pack' in a way too, when Willow is trying to tutor him in Maths and he chucks the textbook stating "I don't get, I won't ever"
@zoesmith12
@zoesmith12 3 года назад
@@scot4187 she actually uploads these a little earlier for her patreons and then makes them fully public later
@davewolf6256
@davewolf6256 3 года назад
Probably the most underrated Buffy ep. Not bc people think it's bad but bc it's really, really good!
@gorillarawfare1963
@gorillarawfare1963 3 года назад
It’s actually unfortunate that they didn’t show it because of columbine, as even though it was more about suicide and not school shootings, I do think the message is important for both.
@Leafsdude
@Leafsdude 3 года назад
@@gorillarawfare1963 In fairness, regardless of the importance of the message, if I had just had a friend or close relative kill themselves, the last thing I'd be interested in seeing was a TV show talking about how suicide is bad, regardless of how eloquent it does so. In the same sense, I understand how the message itself didn't overrule the compassion of not airing media portraying something so similar to a tragedy like Columbine so soon, when so many people wouldn't see anything but the salt in their fresh wound.
@horsepuncher95
@horsepuncher95 3 года назад
@@Leafsdude Kinda wish that same compassion was shown when they named Oz's band. But I guess it doesn't count if it's not an American national tradegy >.>
@gorillarawfare1963
@gorillarawfare1963 3 года назад
@@Leafsdude I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, but isn’t this the issue with school shootings, it’s always too soon to discuss why they happen, and then the next one comes along. So not much really changes.
@fabianhebestreit3240
@fabianhebestreit3240 3 года назад
@@horsepuncher95 That dingo story happened in 1980, that's not even remotely comparable to this situation.
@fajenthygia5760
@fajenthygia5760 3 года назад
"Oh, but that would have made sense." This is still my most-used Buffy quote. And Buffy's brow-raise is one of my most-used gifs.
@Itcouldbebunnies
@Itcouldbebunnies 3 года назад
"Apathy on the rise, no one cares." 😄
@TheCaptainAllie
@TheCaptainAllie 3 года назад
I love that in this episode you can see Cordelia really just says what she thinks. "I think it, I say it!" An Icon.
@kevinbre7563
@kevinbre7563 3 года назад
I love Oz reading the review and is, "It's fair." He's one of the most mellow characters ever 😂
@subjectd6985
@subjectd6985 3 года назад
Further evidence that Cordelia isn't stupid, she's just honest! "Tact is just not saying true stuff." - Cordelia Chase
@ronaldfasshauer4390
@ronaldfasshauer4390 3 года назад
Or those charactors aren't rich or important enough for her to lie to.
@Nicamon
@Nicamon 2 года назад
"Tact is just not saying true stuff."This is basically my life philosophy. ... And I get *sooooo* much shit thrown at me because of that.X-(
@RICHIEV333
@RICHIEV333 3 года назад
I like how when Buffy's mom realized Buffy could read minds, her mind immediately went to the one secret she did not want Buffy to find out.
@Pravdacz-tp8zu
@Pravdacz-tp8zu 3 года назад
That's how brain works. When you want to not think about something, you automatically get to think about that very thing.
@hekkoCZ
@hekkoCZ 3 года назад
@@Pravdacz-tp8zu Funny how Xander got the right idea (think about something else). Shame it didn't work for him. :D
@Logan_Baron
@Logan_Baron 3 года назад
Well Giles does even say that whatever they don't want to reveal to Buffy is the very thing they will think about. It's similar to the "Don't think about sex". Whatever you try not to think about is what you can't stop thinking about.
@davewolf6256
@davewolf6256 3 года назад
@@hekkoCZ 4 time 5 is 30! 5 times 6 is 32!
@TheJessy8888
@TheJessy8888 3 года назад
@@Logan_Baron i was amazed giles didn't think of what happened with joyce in front of buffy!
@roonarific1086
@roonarific1086 3 года назад
Buffy's line, "but that would've made sense" is one of my favourite quotes from her in the series. I hope it makes it onto the board next episode.
@Polymathically
@Polymathically 3 года назад
I was in high school when Columbine happened, and I remember this not being aired. Such a shame, but because it's such a great episode. The message about how everyone is caught up in their own problems and just to get through it all rings true even now. 12:10 And that's my favorite part of of the episode. Giles walking into a tree wasn't in the script; Anthony Stewart Head just added it in at the last minute.
@rustrose-f4r
@rustrose-f4r 3 года назад
I hate that anyone who is so young has to go through that trauma. I don't live in a country that has these tragedies occur; school shootings are possible but not common, and I can't believe what it must be like to experience the fear, but also live as a contemporary of those who have lost their lives. Alley: thanks as ever for being a Buffy fan second and a human first.
@Robadine-he7cp
@Robadine-he7cp 3 года назад
Does that message not make it a bit appropriate to air at that time?
@narayastarks
@narayastarks 3 года назад
they did end up airing the episode but they just had postponed it bc of the shooting
@zabukazar
@zabukazar 3 года назад
Xander knew that the lunch lady was the one doing it. He actually guessed that she was the one at the start of the investigation.
@adamgannaway
@adamgannaway 3 года назад
"I'm just stressed out...I might as well get stressed out about a fictional show." That pretty much sums up what I think draws us to shows like Buffy. It's catharsis! In The Poetics, Aristotle wrote that viewing tragic plays gives people an emotional release from their own stresses, anxieties, and fears. By watching characters go through emotionally charged events and empathizing with them, viewers get a relief from their own negative emotions. Why do we watch characters experience difficulties (sometimes heroically but also tragically)? Because it makes us feel better, not at the character's expense, but because we connect with them and feel for what they are going through.
@adamgannaway
@adamgannaway 3 года назад
This idea was picked up by Freud (which I know might not be a ringing endorsement), but it was also embraced by Hitchcock and (I strongly believe) by Whedon.
@adamgannaway
@adamgannaway 3 года назад
Just did a Google search, found lots of articles on Buffy and catharsis, including in peer reviewed academic articles. Too bad I didn't get my PhD in media studies!
@TheNoybusiness
@TheNoybusiness 3 года назад
@@adamgannaway That make sense. Buffy studies are diverse and notable enough to have their own Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_studies .
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 года назад
It's not just tragedy that has that effect. A good soap opera can give you a thorough emotional workout, and enable you to experience all seven deadly sins vicariously without the drawbacks of having committed any of them yourself.
@Theomite
@Theomite 3 года назад
I also like the fictional excerpt from Poetics II that Eco came up with: _"We shall now examine the ways in which comedy stimulates our delight in the ridiculous by using vulgar persons and taking pleasure in their defects."_
@mandyhuey5810
@mandyhuey5810 3 года назад
I remember seeing this episode for the first time and the johnathon scene just hitting me so freaking heavy. Man. Not many series could pull off a plot like this and keep the humor perfectly balanced besides Btvs. And the proximity of the scheduled release for this and Columbine happening has always been so crazy to me. Just wild. For those of us who remember Columbine and witnessed the growth in frequency of school shootings.. I think this episode definitely hits us a little harder. The world is so different since then.
@caitlin329
@caitlin329 3 года назад
Cordelia "tact is just not saying true stuff" Chase saying exactly what she thinks lol
@dplunk13
@dplunk13 3 года назад
Jane Espenson is such a great writer, and not just on Buffy. She has at least one great episode of Battlestar Galactica as well. Also, Sarah and David are scorching hot in this episode; makeup, hair, lighting, all on point.
@redviper6805
@redviper6805 3 года назад
Loved the shocked look on Buffy’s face when she found out about her mom and Giles in the Band Candy episode😂 Sarah Gellar pulled it off beautifully
@tak1984
@tak1984 3 года назад
Other than laughing on cue, and those bangs from Amends, there isn’t anything SMG can’t pull off. To this day, one of the most underrated actresses of all time. Her mantle should be filled with Emmys, Golden Globes, and Oscars.
@paulonius42
@paulonius42 3 года назад
Your reaction to Buffy reading Joyce's mind about Giles KILLED me! OMG, you broke up so much! I love Joyce's expressions as she's leaving Buffy's room. One of my favorite Buffy moments ever! Great reaction (as always), keep being you! :)
@Justafox305
@Justafox305 3 года назад
It's crazy how much Columbine changed things. I just found out the movie Scream 3, was suppose to have an entirely different plot but due to columbine, hollywood told them to change the entire plot. they had to change the plot + make it less scary and more funny. which ultimately made scream 3 the worst one.
@emilyireland-smith9539
@emilyireland-smith9539 3 года назад
how is this posted marked a month ago
@emilyireland-smith9539
@emilyireland-smith9539 3 года назад
@@ItsMeBarnaby oh thanks i was so confused
@razycrandomgirl
@razycrandomgirl 3 года назад
what was the original plot if you please?
@Justafox305
@Justafox305 3 года назад
@@razycrandomgirl originally Stu was supposed to have survived and been in prison and secretly had some followers who would kill for him. someone made a fan trailer for what the original plot would have been ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HlnGaaF__3Y.html
@redeem147
@redeem147 3 года назад
The poor kid is played by Danny Strong. He has two Emmys for writing Game Change. He also wrote the last two Hunger Games films.
@erikohman2294
@erikohman2294 3 года назад
Dang! Didnt know he was doing that well now days. Nice!
@fad23
@fad23 3 года назад
I knew he wrote an award winning movie or two since Buffy, but went to look him up and discovered he is now a producer on Empire! And he wrote the new book for the musical Chess! Chess is sort of Anthony Stewart Head related too. His older brother had a hot record from that musical and Anthony did later versions of the show.
@laurenfrey873
@laurenfrey873 3 года назад
SMG tried hard to get this episode to air on time, but she was overruled. IIRC, this episode eventually aired shortly before S4 started. I think if Jonathan hadn't brought a rifle to campus and instead brought a handgun, /maybe/ it would have been aired on time, and that is a big maybe. I personally think what was harder to justify was the Scoobies' nonchalant talk about school shootings, Oz even says they were bordering on trendy, and such a line really would not have sat well so soon after Columbine. Also, fun fact, Jane Espenson had the scene with Joyce and Buffy because people kept asking her whether or not Giles and Joyce had sex in Band Candy.
@Leafsdude
@Leafsdude 3 года назад
Honestly, the one problem, and probably the only problem, I had with this episode is how ridiculous it is that we're supposed to expect Jonathan to somehow kill himself with that rifle. I'm not sure it was physically possible for him to do so. A handgun or even smaller auto would have made more sense, but then it might have been more ridiculous to think of Jonathan planning to take out students from the clock tower with it, plus you wouldn't have the drawn-out "putting the gun together" montage. I'm still not sure if any of that justifies the red herring there.
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q 3 года назад
It wasn't really this episode that was the biggest point of controversy, but the fact that The WB also delayed the 2nd half of the season finale by almost 2 months for the same reasons. It was a HUGE controversy at the time, with extensive write ups in entertainment media etc. This episode did actually air before season 4 started.
@normalgamergal
@normalgamergal 3 года назад
@@Leafsdude When students kill themselves with guns, they're most likely getting it from home, so the fact that he has a rifle makes sense (his family could go hunting or something like that). Also, pretty sure people can kill themselves with rifles... Though I suppose I could be wrong about his specific kind. Saying that, even if it wasn't, I could believe that Johnathan hadn't put in the thought for it. Most people who attempt/commit suicide do it with less thought than you'd expect, because if they were thinking more rationally, they'd be more likely to realize that their situation is temporary. A handgun would probably have made more sense, but I don't think it's that out of left field to be believable (at least, personally speaking).
@Leafsdude
@Leafsdude 3 года назад
@@normalgamergal "Also, pretty sure people can kill themselves with rifles..." Some do, but it's usually a very complex set of planning and actions to do so. And I'm not sure it would be possible for someone 5'1 like Danny Strong is. "Saying that, even if it wasn't, I could believe that Johnathan hadn't put in the thought for it." You know what, I'll grant you that. Excellent point.
@lars573
@lars573 3 года назад
@@Leafsdude Put the barrel under his chin or in his mouth and pull the trigger with his thumb (or his toe if he's legit that short). There was a doc series about the fall of Hong Kong in WW2. One excerpt was from a member of the garrison who was deciding whether he was going to be taken prisoner or not. He got as far as putting the rifle under his chin and cocking it before he changed his mind. And that a was an SMLE, a fair bit bigger than that target shooter.
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 3 года назад
9:27 - "APATHY ON THE RISE, NO ONE CARES" Very clever.
@blacktronlego
@blacktronlego 3 года назад
This episode also explains to a large extent the awkwardness between Giles and Joyce at the end of 'Band Candy', especially when Buffy said that she got to them before they did anything,
@toshomni9478
@toshomni9478 3 года назад
Buffy reading her mom's mind was both the best and worst thing ever right along with Giles' reaction when he got busted.
@bilzahubbers1419
@bilzahubbers1419 3 года назад
Deadass broke my fkn nail by clicking so fast wtf
@alleybox
@alleybox 3 года назад
BROOO
@ibgvox
@ibgvox 3 года назад
Joss wrote the literature class scenes and the Buffy-Jonathan moment in the tower. This is Jane Espenson favorite episode.
@metroplex7986
@metroplex7986 3 года назад
Another fantastic episode. Right on the money regarding teenage boys; Willow going back to being insecure while reading Oz and Buffy's face; Wesley's look of embarrassment...with that look by Buffy; Buffy's scene with Joyce is pure gold; Xander still cares for Cordy; 2 fantastic 'villain' twists; and Buffy actually growing as a person after being in so many people's heads for a day. Also noted that Xander prevented other kids from eating when he found out. Oz I regard as also a typical teenage boy, having deep thoughts. Some guys when they zone out are thinking stuff like that or money related, when a girl interrupts and goes "what are you thinking about?" Honestly, it'll take longer to explain, so we just reply "nothing". Regarding school shootings, other commenters and yourself pretty much covered it.
@razycrandomgirl
@razycrandomgirl 3 года назад
he still thinks about Cordelia. Caring? meh and Oz is really nice for not holding a grudge against him.
@sdab4856
@sdab4856 3 года назад
Hiii!! Awesome reaction, it was so fun!! I love the “does he not think” comment XD Also just wanted to thank you for putting a trigger warning at the beginning! It’s not something many reactors do so it’s really great that you did. I’ve already seen the episode and I’m not particularly bothered by the contents (not that it’s not disturbing, but I wouldn’t be triggered by it) but if someone was watching for the first time then they might need to know that. Sooo this is a long way of saying thank you, that was a really awesome thing to do! :D
@dustymetzgar3006
@dustymetzgar3006 Год назад
When you think about it, there's probably someone evil in every cafeteria you've ever been in...
@shercahn
@shercahn 3 года назад
I was at Penn State in 1996 when they had the sniper shooter. 1 student died, one student injured. I remember another student found a bullet in one of their books that was in their backpack. They even found bullets in the window ledge of the church across the street from the lawn where the shooting took place. One of my good friends was friends with the shooter. Every one was shocked. To this day, I know where I was when it happened (but didn't know it happened until later even though I was in a set of buildings across from the building the lawn is behind). First known school shooting (in the US) happened in 1764. It is sad for kids/young adults now a days to have to worry about being shot one day. It's sad to have to sell bullet proof backpacks, have active shooter drills, or for the even younger ones to cry because they are afraid of what will happen. But youth are resilient and maybe one day, these will be things they won't have to think about.
@corvus1970
@corvus1970 3 года назад
I just noticed that you have acquired a jadeite coffee mug, like the one Giles has. Well done! I have one myself, for the very same reason.
@originalsnikrot
@originalsnikrot 3 года назад
Hi Alley, really enjoying your experience with Buffy, been watching since your episode 1 reaction. Given that its a show i grew up with when i was a teenager and have watched many times since (the latest being about 6 months ago, hence why i watch reaction videos instead) I look forward to your future reactions and hopefully Angel also. Anyway, happy new year and all the best to you and yours.
@erikohman2294
@erikohman2294 3 года назад
Me, watching Xander in Nightmares: No one reacts like that to a piece of candy! Xander, two season later trying to stop imminent massmurder: Oh, Jell-o! I just didnt know him back then.
@1986bab
@1986bab 3 года назад
More like he can sometimes track down evil by following snack foods.
@MagusAgrippa8
@MagusAgrippa8 3 года назад
Earshot is weirdly crucial to this season’s climax. Buffy needed this to learn empathy, and to understand everyone in the school on a deeper level.
@erikohman2294
@erikohman2294 3 года назад
Could we just not inform anyone of anything about the seasons climax before we get there? Its easy to slip when you dont speak of specific details, I know. But anything that changes your understanding of the future is a spoiler. They also have a tendency to add up.
@MagusAgrippa8
@MagusAgrippa8 3 года назад
@@erikohman2294 I personally don't think my comment here spoiled anything, all it does is point out that Earshot, while seemingly filler, matters in the end. I kept it vague on purpose. I don't intend to share anything about this season's climax, or else I would have been far more direct about it.
@erikohman2294
@erikohman2294 3 года назад
@@MagusAgrippa8 Indeed, I see your good intentions. Nontheless.. SPOILERS: You are saynig that whats brought up here is important. Her empathy to the entier school is important. For all Ally knows at this point, the students outside the scoobies could be nothing more then background noice. They pretty much where in season 2. Anything that gives hints at what is important going forward is a thing that can change expectations. Changing expectations, especially if it becomes more accurate, is a spoiler. Surley this one is way more subtle then saying i.e "she will involve everyone". However, there is plenty of us here and there is usually a few subtle hints here and there. The effects are cumulative. To avoid things being expected, spoiled or understood, lets just avoid using future info alltogether. These thematic hints are still spoilers, just a lot more well meaning then the Cordy style ones.
@MagusAgrippa8
@MagusAgrippa8 3 года назад
@@erikohman2294 I'll give you that much. Though according to other comments, Alley herself is already several episodes ahead, given the delay between the ones up on patreon and the ones uploaded here later. If those comments were correct, Alley is already into the next season. It would be other people watching Buffy for the first time, following along with these reviews on youtube, that would be in danger of any spoilers.
@erikohman2294
@erikohman2294 3 года назад
@@MagusAgrippa8 Yeah thats true. So as long as spoilers are no more ahead then that its pretty fine I suppose. Honestly I rarely see people following along with reactors, at least people leaving comments have usually seen the show.
@Ordinaryguy82
@Ordinaryguy82 3 года назад
This episode, really flexes it’s dynamic-narrative muscle from humor, maudlin, mystery, psychological-angst and the brutal honesty of a universal truth about life, only to Straight-up rocket back to humor and cap off with The ending Buffy-“Maybe if you’re not to busy Seepling. WITH. My Mother(!)” Giles-Oofff So good.
@TheNoybusiness
@TheNoybusiness 3 года назад
"We talked, and then he tore out the heart of a demon and fed it to me, and then we talked some more." "You see, that's how it should work." In the episode commentary, Jane Espenson talks about how they deliberately made Buffy unable to read the one mind she really, really wanted to read, her significant other. Greetings from the other side of November 4; thank God it worked out after all. My Dad and I had our hardest time ever voting (the week before), and after voting we got a celebratory pizza. .
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 3 года назад
I remember when this episode got pulled in the wake of the Columbine shooting. Not having seen the episode (obviously) I assumed it somehow dealt with the subject of school shootings in an insensitive way or made fun of the subject somehow. It eventually aired a few months later and when I watched it, I was surprised that it was actually a very well done episode and not insensitive at all. It's one of my favorite episodes now. Love the scene with Buffy and Jonathan in the tower - "Every single person down there is ignoring your pain because they're too busy with their own. ..If you could hear what they were feeling. The loneliness. The confusion. It looks quiet down there. It's not. It's deafening. "
@ThePurpleRants
@ThePurpleRants 3 года назад
I LOVE the laugh at the "you had sex with Giles?!" bit
@andrewwiddicombe3912
@andrewwiddicombe3912 3 года назад
No-one noticed xander guessed right when he said "I've been saying it for years lunch lady Doris is going to kill us off with her mulligan stew" just got the food wrong
@taygeniused
@taygeniused 3 года назад
OMG I LOVE THIS ONE OZ IS SO FUNNY IN HERE 😂
@quietsiren
@quietsiren 3 года назад
I was weirdly super disappointed that there wasn’t the cat collar jingle when we saw Angel. Bring it back!
@farfrompoo
@farfrompoo 3 года назад
I hadn't realized this episode was delayed until a couple years after the fact. I didn't start watching Buffy until the summer between this season and the next. FX would run 2 Buffy reruns each weekday, in the late afternoon/early evening. I somehow stumbled into one and got hooked. When I finally saw this episode, I just thought it was an ordinary rerun.
@rayjulien4739
@rayjulien4739 3 года назад
Epic episode. My favourite line was 'TWICE!' Joss does love his Shakespeare so you might like to check out his version of 'Much ado about nothing' filmed at his house while filming 'Avengers'...you know, for the psychology.
@fad23
@fad23 3 года назад
Much Ado is so good!
@scoutboo
@scoutboo 3 года назад
I love this episode. I live in the UK so was lucky enough to watch this in its proper place in the season. At the time I was so annoyed on behalf of Buffy fans in the US because I think the message in Earshot, particularly Buffy's speech to Jonathon, would have resonated with the US public, including the Columbine survivors. Apparently SMG tried to push WB to air it for that reason. Trying to repress difficult themes and bad feelings doesn't make problems go away (another episode theme)
@Vampluvver
@Vampluvver 2 года назад
Alley I have to say I love your channel so much! Because you have such a keen eye on details that both make me laugh and think. Your channel is rising to the top of my favorites list! I hope you enjoy your day!
@LittleMissDivine
@LittleMissDivine 3 года назад
and aw man you´re making me laugh.. thank you! Gorgeous entertainment!
@jamesjohngarner
@jamesjohngarner 3 года назад
I love that thumbnail more than any I've ever seen. I already saw this on Patreon but had to come here to say that.
@andrewthezeppo
@andrewthezeppo 3 года назад
I broke into my own house to watch this. Left a church group and everything
@blacktronlego
@blacktronlego 3 года назад
The earliest school shooting I know about was in Cleveland in 1979. There was a song by The Boomtown Rats about it called 'I Don't Like Mondays'.
@lawrencewestby9229
@lawrencewestby9229 3 года назад
Apathy on the rise, no one cares.
@senshifuriouz1828
@senshifuriouz1828 3 года назад
good morning -9am in Berlin (Germany) ^^ thank you for this new episode :)
@wykart932
@wykart932 9 месяцев назад
When Angel's mind was completely silent, "does he just not think?" im dying. He probably made up the vamp explanation to excuse his no thoughts head empty
@thatoneguyagain2252
@thatoneguyagain2252 3 года назад
Alley, your reactions are always priceless. You've become a bright spot in a dark time, and I'm ever so grateful. It speaks poorly of 21st-century America that we've become so desensitized to school shootings, other mass shootings and just gun violence in general. I lived in Los Angeles in the 80s and 90s, and I'd hear automatic weapons firing in the distance almost every night. The TV news didn't even bother to mention shootings unless the number of dead was unusually high, one or more of the victims was either very young or very old, or there was some circumstance that made that particular shooting extra-tragic. Now, I live in a more "conservative" part of the country, and I'm absolutely horrified by the people around me. There's an appalling percentage of pick-up trucks on every street with stickers promoting guns on one side of the back window, stickers promoting Jesus on the other side, and stickers promoting a certain Republican in the middle. Every time I hear somebody popping off about how "liberals are coming to take our guns", I want to grab them by their lapels and shake some sense into them. But I can't, because every single one of them is wearing a pistol on their hip. There is no upside to being right if you're too dead to enjoy it. Sorry about that - it's just that around here, I don't dare say any of that out loud.
@mooble1325
@mooble1325 3 года назад
'you're a very complex man arentcha' had me choking on my coffee
@knowledge-girl
@knowledge-girl 3 года назад
It was shockingly accurate. The first preview of this episode aired on April 20, 1999, the day of Columbine. So it would have actually aired a week, not a month, later.
@juantorres706
@juantorres706 3 года назад
The wb pulling the episode sucked so hard at the time...I was so obsessed to find out what happened that I immediately went on eBay and ordered a bootleg copy on vhs (way before streaming and torrent days) from Canada, it aired there but not here in the US,so I could watch it 😝
@skullberry9000
@skullberry9000 3 года назад
Everybody's internal monologue is them talking to themselves...by definition.
@TheNoybusiness
@TheNoybusiness 3 года назад
But some of us have more conversation-like ones than others. .
@robertmcbride4454
@robertmcbride4454 3 года назад
I literally cried when this originally didn't air and we just got a rerun. I was so sad I loved this show!
@lynnevetter
@lynnevetter 3 года назад
Great episode, imo. It really does start off sooo funny. And love that it wraps back around to humor with Giles running into a tree. It was crazy, when Columbine happened. I wasn't even ready to watch tv when that happened (I'm from CO, was a Jr in highschool, it was a little close to home) so I'm glad it was delayed at the time.
@tommymarx391
@tommymarx391 3 года назад
Could I strongly suggest you read "Columbine" by Dave Cullen? He spent ten years researching the book, and so much of what I at least thought was true wasn't. Columbine, along with 9/11, changed so much about what those of us that lived through it thought about the world and about America.
@mooble1325
@mooble1325 3 года назад
ON THE HOOD OF A POLICE CAR?!?!?!? TWICE?!?!?!?!
@lurker1316
@lurker1316 3 года назад
9:03 - Absolute gold.
@donkorte80
@donkorte80 3 года назад
In the lunch lady fight scene...worlds worst stunt double...
@CraigPMiller
@CraigPMiller 3 года назад
Another awesome Jane Espenson episode 😁🙃😎👍
@BBGirl555
@BBGirl555 3 года назад
This makes it in to my top 30 episodes of Buffy as does a good third of seasion 3.
@chantelpreshous6347
@chantelpreshous6347 3 года назад
Giles walking into the tree was actually real. It happened so they kept it in. So I read anyways. This is one of my fave episodes
@ashlielove6513
@ashlielove6513 3 года назад
Oh Jonathan. Blew my mind when I found out that geeky kid from my favorite TV show of all time ended up being such a badass producer and creator. He produced the show Empire.
@mooble1325
@mooble1325 3 года назад
and, of course, cutthroat editor of the yale daily news
@allisonhunter1063
@allisonhunter1063 3 месяца назад
I know I'm late AF to this discussion, but for those wondering, I watched the show from season 1 episode 1 through the finale its first run through on tv. It came on when I was 7 and left the air when I was 13. This episode was originally slated to air on April 27, 1999, but Columbine happened on April 20, 1999. The episode "Choices" aired as planned on May 4, 1999. Please note that "Graduation Day Part 2" was also delayed due to a SECOND school shooting. GDP2 wasn't aired until July and THIS episode had to wait until SEPTEMBER, RIGHT before season 4 started.
@IDyce88
@IDyce88 Год назад
i just love that look Buffy gives Wesley...that is award winning she should have got an oscar just for that cheeky look. i've read a lot of teen murder mysteries and statistically the most likely teen to commit a crime (or shooting perhaps) is: popular kids (desperate to maintain status), Loners (desperate for attention), school journalist/ newspaper (have a tendency to lack empathy and use articles to ruin their classmates)
@ronfehr7899
@ronfehr7899 3 года назад
My favorite part of the episode was when Buffy read Joyce's thoughts. And said "You had sex with Giles?" "on the hood of a police car?" "Twice?" Also I loved your reaction.
@raggarbergman
@raggarbergman 3 года назад
Na Oz doesn't have an existential crisis. Oz just being Oz. ^_^ Happy they didn't kill him of instead of Jenny.
@ryantalbot2783
@ryantalbot2783 3 года назад
Needed something to watch while on the way home, thanks alley
@edwardthorne9875
@edwardthorne9875 3 года назад
Welcome back -- Love to see you react to this one. If you look, you can find Jonathon in Season 1 Episode 1. He's been there almost 3 years, and you don't know his name? Just shows what an excellent job he has been doing, as the one that just doesn't register. The actual bad guy of the episode was so random, that shot with 'Rat Poison' was so cartoonish and brilliant. Isn't this the same lunch lady who was chasing Zander with a rolling pin (along with every other female around) just a few episodes ago? God I love this show.
@lurker1316
@lurker1316 3 года назад
Was he in 1x01? I knew he was in the unaired pilot, but I've never spotted him in 1x01. I thought his first aired appearance was 2x04.
@edwardthorne9875
@edwardthorne9875 3 года назад
You are most likely correct... Nice catch. I watched the unaired pilot recently, and was so surprised to see him, I mentally relabelled the show. Gosh.. You must be a pretty big fan.
@anicientbolt
@anicientbolt 3 года назад
Enjoyed watching your reviews this year, happy to have had your first Buffy vid pop up in my feed :)
@MultiShriek
@MultiShriek 3 года назад
Just realised xander did the classic scooby doo Segway. “ Jello”. Then uncovers the baddy.
@adiramdov2474
@adiramdov2474 3 года назад
As funny as this episode is, it also really sad and really important. That scene when Buffy is thinking 'how else would i know what's in your mind?' and Angel says "JUST ASK ME", explain a lot in this episode. Trying to tell us that all we need is paying a little more intention to the people around us, so we hopefully won't get another person who kills himself.
@magicalpasta5462
@magicalpasta5462 5 месяцев назад
This was what made me fall in love with Johnathan as much as I do. I wish he never died
@pikadoc6130
@pikadoc6130 3 года назад
Can I just say (again if I've commented before) I absolutely love your reactions to the episodes. Your breakdowns and connections to overarching themes make me see the eps with new eyes years later haha. I remember thinking, can you imagine walking through the courtyard and some rando is parkouring her way up the tower out of the blue? Also I never realized this ep didn't air right after Columbine. I remember the fallout when that news broke and it was a weird sort of wave of concern that just sorta came over everyone if you were in a public school at the time.
@fad23
@fad23 3 года назад
Gotta give some love to Jonathan!
@mattdawg105
@mattdawg105 2 года назад
I loved Xander and Oz thoughts
@panicatthebts7434
@panicatthebts7434 3 года назад
This is one of my favorite episodes. Buffy hearing Oz and Cordelia's thoughts alone are iconic... but then Joyce not wanting to stay around because she didn't want Buffy to find out about her and Giles from Band Candy hahaha. I honestly love the continuity of this show. Stuff actually gets carried over from old episodes!!
@michelleangel6948
@michelleangel6948 3 года назад
As a non American, I think this episode was aired without delays around the world.
@JordiVanderwaal
@JordiVanderwaal 3 года назад
As a non-American who was I think 11 at that time Columbine happened (2000?), that one felt different. It was all over the news across Europe and it was like "a big thing" (bigger story than other school shootings I mean). And it sparked a real conversation about gun control that as we all know didn't end up doing much. But school shootings were (starting to be?) common there, which makes the fact that this was 20 (!) years ago even more depressing. It's like the racial injustice protests, that happen on particular occasions (in like more heartbreaking cases than they usually are), while things haven't really changed that much in the past 2 decades. :( But anyway, politics and social issues aside, this was a great (and poignant?) episode. I felt for Jonathan, and Buffy's speech when she was trying to stop him got me emotional when I watched it. xD Also, isn't "overthinking shit" our motto for 2020? Or every other year.
@cherimiss7983
@cherimiss7983 3 года назад
I really enjoy this episode however who climbs a tower in a very public area to shoot themselves with a sniper rifle? They seemed so married to their misdirection that they just threw logic out the window.
@TheNoybusiness
@TheNoybusiness 3 года назад
Someone trying to make a big scene out of their suicide, which is exactly what Jonathan wanted. He even sent a letter about it to the school news, and SPOILER in a future episode, is called out for trying to make everything better with a grand gesture again. .
@cherimiss7983
@cherimiss7983 3 года назад
@@TheNoybusiness I feel that's more of a way to cover themselves after the fact, but fair enough. Still trying to shoot yourself with a sniper rifle is beyond impractical without a setup involved.
@1986bab
@1986bab 3 года назад
Sometimes its like Xander can just sense evil. Like when Angel lost his soul. His first guess here at mass murder was the lunch lady.
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind 3 года назад
"was it a boy demon?"
@gamingeagle19
@gamingeagle19 3 года назад
I'm sure someone mentioned this over on Patreon but Giles running into the tree was a mistake but it was too funny not to leave in.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho 3 года назад
According to Slayer it was an improvisation on the part of ASH?
@gamingeagle19
@gamingeagle19 3 года назад
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho I've always heard it was a blooper but either way, it wasn't in the script lol
@danwiesdamageinc
@danwiesdamageinc 3 года назад
12:29 Columbine happened on April 20th, 1999. This episode was supposed to air on April 27, 1999.
@micaelacicciomessere1610
@micaelacicciomessere1610 3 года назад
Love your reaction to this episode!!
@jimforman3754
@jimforman3754 2 года назад
"What's a Stevedor?"
@sweariefaerie9621
@sweariefaerie9621 2 года назад
THE DELIVERY! 🤣
@jonathanmartin8716
@jonathanmartin8716 3 года назад
LOL, my mind goes to that exact scene when trying to figure out which is slander and liable. :P
@TimStCroix
@TimStCroix 3 года назад
Libel rhymes with Bible, which is printed. Slander begins with 's,' as is 'spoken.' That's how I remember them.
@hadesshivabuddhachrist8573
@hadesshivabuddhachrist8573 3 года назад
I think there was something like 10 school shootings that year, Columbine being the most notorious, it was very much in the news. BTW, the season finale also had a delay in airing (someone can tell you why for that one after you've seen it). Buffys speech to Jonathan is probably one of my favorite speeches out of the whole series, so this episode does resonate very strongly with me and I really like the look on the newspaper editors face when Buffy and the gang start working out who the killer will be, very matter of fact and focused like they do this all the time (because they kinda do). It's the look I'd expect someone to have just randomly wandering into a superhero universe and seeing Batman or The Avengers do their regular routines
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 3 года назад
We need to point out Willow constantly pushing Jonathan and interrogating him along with his already low confidence caused him to want to kill himself. People tend to hate on Xander but Willow is just a really bad person a lot of times, A lot of people sympathize for Jonathan. But if he had actually did something bad all sympathy would be gone.
@lars573
@lars573 3 года назад
She's not bad, as that would imply she's doing shitty things to people on purpose. She just the product of neglectful parents, and an only child. Plus being a genius (and in fiction writing that means a frim belief in your own rightness) and somewhat an introvert. Means she does shitty things to people by accident most of the time. And it takes her 4 more seasons to learn that.
@doug3691
@doug3691 3 года назад
Thanks again Alley, looking forward to the season review.
@CrazyGirl3264
@CrazyGirl3264 3 года назад
This is one of my fav episodes angel comes threw like a boss for Buffy
@litafanforlife
@litafanforlife 3 года назад
One of my favourite episodes, too. I loved that Angel came through to help Buffy.
@12chapin
@12chapin 3 года назад
Hello. Happy New Year🥳. We’re slouching through the season slowly but efficiently. I hope that thing between Giles and Joyce doesn’t lead to 🧒.
@FireflyMALcontent
@FireflyMALcontent 3 года назад
I may have said this before, but, if you ever end up searching for another "demon hunter" type of show, it would be great to see you react to either FRINGE or Grimm.
@trufamilybromontqc
@trufamilybromontqc 3 года назад
i Love this episode its one of my Favourites
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 3 года назад
If no one else has mentioned it, that lunch lady was also in the episode "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered" - she was among the ladies chasing Xander (she was wielding a rolling pin as a weapon. LOL. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l5123Co_Tk4.html )
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho 3 года назад
And was also in IOHWFY way back in season 2.