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Very very true, split the cost & share the profit and you'll be big ballin' in no time.

Very true! I highlighted the actual real profit makers, but I'm also going to likely eventually get the whole thing filled out at this rate (Except maybe that bloody treasure chest) just because I like completion.

LV3/4 nodes is the second worst you could throw money in, after Basic Farming nodes. Especially considering it will pay back in 3+ years. Farming home nodes for UM has literally no sense as you can do winterberries runs with all your characters. Need more UM? Just bring another character. Home nodes is the way to slowly and lazy accumulate map currencies for "just some case". It has nothing to do with building solid income

@@alexandermarinin7036 which is completely untrue for newer/ish players that do not have a bunch of character slots and then there is the TIME factor. You can do a home instance in 4-5 minutes AND still do what you do as well. I have played since launch. I cannot even begin to fathom how much money I have made over 10 years with my home.

Ooh, do you know if that includes the infinite tools you get for buying the Deluxe version of Janthir Wilds?

@@oricalle2106the tools that come with the deluxe does not include a glyph pack.

@@JohnPaulRojas good to know, ty!

Is it for all the infinite tool packs that are available at the gem store?

Not me dating myself with how long ago I bought mine LOL

Hello friend! I think we just communicate and look at things differently. differently, and I'm just a human, as are you, so I definitely am not immune to making oversights in math or communication. let me try to clear some things up, definitely don't want you to feel like I've misled you or anyone else cause that's certainly not what I spent 15+ hours trying to do with this video! To start with a clear one, I definitely could have explained clearer, but we can see at 10:20 in the video we're earning 82,125-129,575 in 365 days. Trophy shipments are 250, so thats 328 to 518 Trophy shipments in a year. If we multiply that by 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) , we get 520.536 to 947.5774 (I did some rounding up in my final math). To your point, your comment from two hours ago why the range is different despite the prices not being correct -That's because my final range I show ALSO accounts for the volatile magic variation, not only the price variation. Because there's 2 variables working together. So the lowest value, the 520.536 is minimum volatile magic and minimum average drop, and the highest value is the maximum volatile magic and maximum drop, because that's the full range of variability. I hope that clears that up. As far as the Krait Obelisk node, you are correct. The krait node does nothing that other hero points don't do. at 1:33 I say that it does nothing on its own, other than creating a hero point in your home instance. To me I felt that was clear enough that it's just a convenience thing, though I do see how I could have been clearer on it. I put zero value on the laurels needed for buying Quartz Crystal/Krait node, because they're available entirely free with some effort since Festival of the Four Winds. And even if you did buy them, I don't look at laurels as gold, they're a byproduct of playing that can be turned into gold or other items, so I wouldn't gold cost them out. The reason for magic not being costed out is that I've always looked at currencies aside from gold as opportunity cost, not the gold value of that currency, so it never crossed my mind to really even factor them in. While gold you typically have to do some sort of selling or converting to make a reasonable amount, you just get things like Laurels or Magic for playing the game. To put it in a more direct example - To me the griffon mount costs 250 gold, because I spend 250 gold to get the things to unlock it. To me the skyscale has unavoidable costs of (on a quick google search here, it's been a while) 41 Gold mandatory. But it also costs 250 of each LWS4 currency. I've never even looked at the skyscale as costing the gold value of all those currencies plus the gold. it's just not how I see the game. I can understand that you may see it that way, and I can definitely see I could have been a bit clearer in saying "I am not calculating that cost here". I did not give a final range of how long to pay back volatile tools as I looked at it and realized there are too many variables for me to give any meaningful cost to repayment. You'd have to look at gem cost, gold cost, whether the tools were on sale, what the sale prices of the tools could be, how many nodes are harvested per day, etc. I simply gave the sample of how much you'd average in a year of only home instance node farming, and the total price of the glyphs if purchased from the TP. That being said, I do in my final walkthrough of all the profits, lay out exactly what ranges of Unbound/Volatile magic, specifically say what gold values I am using in calculating during each step. Then at 13:17 I specifically give the Gross gold earned from unbound and volatile, and state that they cost 600 Gold, which reinforces that I costed out 50G per unbound, 50G per volatile, and 50 for the eternal ice. I laid out every calculation in text and verbally so even if we disagree on whether I should have used the opportunity cost of magic you need to farm, I definitely don't think anything about my video would be misleading. If I hadn't shown exactly how I did all the math, I would agree its misleading. But not only did I give a 15 minute long video with visual examples of what it all costs, I showed how much it returns you 1 day and a 365 day period, so any of it can be reverse engineered by anybody. Like I said, I think we just look at the same information differently. There's a lotta people on this planet and we don't all think the same. I thought I did an effective job in communicating all the information clearly, but based on your two comments, I could have done a better job and will keep that in mind for my future videos. Thanks for your time.

​@@syzxgamingx Thanks for taking the time for explaining. While not counting the cost of laurels/magic is one valid way of looking at it (they're a byproduct of playing- is that not true of gold too, so should we discount that? ;)), it is what is known as a opportunity cost. Each living world 4 node costs 50g which you consider, however the 10k magic which is not in your calculations could buy instead 40 trophy shipments, if we multiply that by per profit of 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) the cost of the magic is 63.5G to 73.2G which is noticeably more than the straight 50G of the 50G 10k magic you consider in your calculations. Similarly laurels are worth on average at present (Light Crafting Bag) 93 s 60 c. So for the 25 laurels required for quartz node that is 23.4G extra cost above the 15G you consider. Fast farming website also has the ROI data at fast.farming-community.eu/gathering/home-nodes . Thanks for the video though, it is very good at showing how good home nodes can be.

Same and when i did that saved of gold for volitility glyphs.

Thank you for educating my foolish self, I appreciate it!

With Arena Net's 1 Year expansion cycle model they've adopted, I was simply framing the video in a "This is how much you can earn with your new homestead from day 1 to the day the next expansion releases". You're entirely correct, it's still going to be around, it was just a literary timeframe.

If you want to get rid of Bloodstone Dust get Gleam of Sentience or Herta

@@DestructX those have a limit per day. :P

@@VirtuesOfSin yeah but Herta consumes a whole stack. Believe me soon you won't have abundance of Bloodstone

I made so much gold selling these when they were 7g a piece lol, same for the Extra-Pungent Treat, i think they were 12g each.

I will definitely look at doing this in the future, though with my schedule I make no promises lest I disappoint you. When you say text do you mean like a word or excel type doc kinda thing?

60 days.... you can use Wizards Tower to figure these things

@@ElfTaleFilms ?? ? I didn't ask when the expansion releases lol

@@ZanesZygot Yes you did. Check your previous comment, troll

@@ElfTaleFilms The video is about housing and in my comment I wonder if we'll have any new details soon or only when it releases.

I'm hoping we get a bit more info soon, personally! We've gotten quite a bit of info about how each class will play with spear, so I'd really hope we get some more info about these!

I feel this in my soul

I can't find that information anywhere. Are you referring to 300 provisioner tokens needed, which you *can* use charged quartz crystal for? If so, I highly recommend using much cheaper options rather than charged quartz crystal

Those 'return dislikes' plugins don't work accurately. At the time of my reply the video has 51 dislikes according to my official analytics, in full transparency. Many people in the comments didn't like my lack of calculating the volatile magic used to purchase the nodes into the profit calculations, as I view any non-gold currency I use in this (and other games) as, not gold, therefore not worth calculating into the gold values of things. It's a difference in opinion in looking at virtual currencies. That's my best guess for where many of the dislikes came from.

@@syzxgamingx huh, that's so weird. Kudos for your reply, very good work on your part, thank you very much!

That is, indeed, what it sounds like. Much like Dungeons, home instances in capital cities seem to have been left back in 2012 lol

Yeah kinda sucks, they are updating the guild halls with this new tech, they could do the same with the old home instances, just give the basic options, and leave the advanced stuff for the expansion, give people a "taste" of what they can get with Jantir Wilds.

As far as charged quartz crystal, it's a specific to home instance node drop. Can find it here: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quartz_Crystal_Formation I also never said it turns into 25 per day, or even that you get 8 per day. I lay out the exact daily range, mention the chances of both additional drops. I say at 1:00 how exactly you typically make a charged quartz crystal, and that the base value of all 25 crystals you need is 80 gold. at 1:40 I say you need 25 quartz crystals, and lay out the base value of 80 silver once again. Nothing to bust here. I actually heavily under-value the quartz crystal node in my calculations because I never actually added any of that into the profit generation, I just assumed a generation of 1 charged quartz crystal per day made by *purchasing* the quartz crystal needed. So my math in this video is actually intentionally under what it would be, so I didn't overestimate any numbers.

It's not. The overwhelming majority of my content I make isn't about efficiency or money. It's what you've chosen to engage with.

what do you mean the other nodes are holding VM nodes back? You legit get more loot?

It would technically become net profit sooner, but then you also make less gold after a longer period of time.Because even though they may "siphon" some of the profit VM Gives you, within the year they're still paid for, so every day after that is money that you still make more of compared to only having VM.

@@CritiasBG but it costs resources to acquire them. You have to recur the value before it’s a profit. You have to pay 50 gold + 10,000 unbound magic up front. That’s not nothing. Profit = income - expenses. More income doesn’t always mean more profit if the expenses are increased also.

@@syzxgamingx i thought you said in the video that the unbound magic node didn’t pay for themselves within a year?

@rabidconscience Yeah if you're on a budget, then Quartz Crystal/Krait obelisk is the strongest 30g, then the Volatile magic is gonna be the fastest ROI for ya. Can pick up all that for under 300G

As far as cashing in for profit? The Rally Provisioner south of the Blood Keep Waypoint, in Grothmar valley is an easy location.

Two of the three you can unlock are gem store, so you’d only be able to get one if you were doing it through in-game means like this video was highlighting. It still has a nice return and utility especially if you like cooking for your guildies, but I don’t remember even an estimate of how much it cost to unlock.

@@hellendoodles about 800g for 2 blacklion plot at current gold to gem conversion and let's say 50g max for the one obtained via gourmet training to that you add 250g for bounty glyph so total is 1100g. I pay about 90g to craft seed for 12 slot for 30day and harvest between 18 and 26 ascended seed i sell for 10 to 15gold. My monthly craft of seed is paid off in 7-8 day and past the 4th month you make pure profit

@@Kazeshh what seeds do you choose to craft to make that much meanwhile i m here wasting it on garlic

@@programmingwithchatti4063i'm doing the cultivated peppercorn this month, i'm not sure i'll do it next month tho, the price is constantly dropping. If i were to chose what to harvest today i'd do cultivated clove

I appreciate your comment, and this has been brought up multiple times. This video definitely taught me a lesson about more widely considering every single possible variable in how people perceive things differently than I do, and I need to do a better job of accounting for that and also just explaining myself. The only thing laruels are needed for I also point out are available entirely for free during festival of the four winds (Which was coming up when I made this, and is currently out) or available via an achievement (in case of the Krait Obelisk) which is one reason I didn't even think to count the cost. As far as the Krait obelisk in general, if you notice I never specifically say anywhere that you need it to make the charged quartz crystals. The use-case is that it just makes your daily round faster, but by failing to actually say that as well, I failed people who don't know that already. I also discussed with someone a while back in the comments that I fundamentally don't view using other currency as "Gold loss" and don't measure opportunity cost like that in my daily play. If I have karma, I'm spending karma. I'm not thinking about the gold I could make from that karma and saying "Well if I buy this minipet I'm spending 27 gold" or anything like that outside of extreme circumstances. I appreciate your time in watching the video & the thoughtful comment.

“you can also access nodes and unlocks you've acquired for your personal story home instance in your homestead.” From the official store page, quoted on the wiki.

Dang, that's a heck of a long term payoff. That's incredible. Thanks for sharing that, and I hope you enjoy Janthir Wilds more than SoTo! Someone else already beat me to the quote confirming the nodes!

Very true. I really need to remember that underwater gear exists. I have some alt toons I've completely forgotten, and then realize I've got like a level 52 yellow spear and im like eee yikes.

At this point the language they used in the article was just an alt location essentially, rather than a second set. They haven't really revealed much additional yet but it definitely seems some type of customization is on the way. I think they're finally giving us the home instance update we wanted but wanted to centralize it rather than make different ones for each race. I'm hoping we can make it feel like our home cities a bit more.

Not a second set just a alternative location to go get them. I believe from what they say that homestead will have a guild type place furniture/feature item system.

I thought they said it wasn’t going to be like the current home instance. Everyone is assuming it will be a customized home instance but no where does it say that. Pretty sure they also said it would be different from the home instance. I’m at work so I can’t source my info.

@@FreelanceDubs "The Homesteads feature is unlocked and developed through an associated Mastery line as a place to express yourself, share space with your friends, and access nodes and unlockable resources from your personal story home instance" Is from the original announcement of Janthir Wilds post on the website, which is where I sourced talking about personal home instance nodes converting to the Homestead. As far as customized, that's true that they didn't say it as far as fully customized, but they also say "your own homestead, an account-wide personal instance with a structure and land for you to decorate and cultivate" so I think that's everyone having HOPE that they wouldn't taunt us with some actual personalization and then just make it like, checkboxes. At the very least I'd expect guild-hall style decorating, but I hope for more.

@@syzxgamingx oh lmao I totally missed that.

O.o ?

There are two recipies. The step by step one for the pearl handcannon is not rare, just need 400 huntsman, and then its either 25k karma or 8 silver. In my profit calculation at 2:13 on screen for that that the base materials cost 2G 96S 47C and add in the 1G 60S quartz crystal cost to make the two charged quarts crystals (80 silver, doubled) and show the sell price of the item that requires two quartz crystals. If you subtract those material prices from the sell price, you get the profit after all costs are considered. (Again assuming you paid for the quartz to make the charged quarts) and then you divide that profit in half, because it takes two crystals, and you get how much each crystal is worth. At 2:31 I clearly say "If you use buy order pricing for the raw materials, and sell listing price for the output, you can make something like the Commander's Pearl Trident for 10 and a half gold profit." so yes, that is also subtracting the cost of the materials. The recipe is not purchased. I never go into that because there are literally 0 on the trading post, only buy orders. If you did somehow buy one for the current buy order pricing it 1G 66S so it's not even much. It's not really about pretending they're free, it's about the fact that I never said to buy it, I said IF you have the recipe.

Galaxy brain is doing both because then you have passive profits and active profits :)