Building a cheap Windows 98 and DOS Retro Gaming PC with AMD Athlon 64 processor 

"You fight like a stillborn kitten" Damn. Old school burns were brutal.

Hey Phil, I would be very interested in a video about Radeon x300 and x800 cards for Win 98 gaming. I bought a x800 pro recently myself. Even though the driver support never got out of "beta", it still works flawlessly from my limited testing. The cards come in both AGP and PCI-E, and both are supported under Windows 98. These seem like the ultimate Windows 98 gaming cards.

I don't think less demanding games such as DOS games are less optimized. Wow when your PC is 10 years younger than the game it should perform at 60 frames per second all the time! Do a frame cap for DOS exist?

I still have my old AM2 939 socket board as well as the Athlon 6000+. At the time, it was the only athlon processor with 1MB L2 Cache. It was one of the most sought after CPU’s by amd for its time.

Well this is nostalgic, my dad used that same processor for probably a good 8 or 9 years! I was stuck with the Pentium 4 but he had the Athlon 64 and eventually an Athlon x2 before he got into the higher end Intel CPUs. I personally prefer computers from the era I was born in, so Pentium 1 and earlier :) they're an expensive hobby, but they're so much more enjoyable for me. Regardless, this is an awesome project and I might have to give it a go and see how well I can get one of these running some of my favorite games!

I'm thinking VERY seriously about doing this.. complete with CRT of course.. but I can't help but wonder if it's even necessary with things like PCEM and DosBox.. I guess I'll have to try and find out :)

Shut the front door! I have this motherboard, an Athlon 64 3200+ and a Ti4400 sitting in the closet along with all the other old stuff. Weekend project!!! I might go with my Audigy ZS though. That or an Aureal Monster Sound.

It's by far the most comprehensive retro pc channel on whole YT - *From Brazil* Good job, sir! I just miss some info on description

I managed to get wing commander running "fine" on a xeon e3 1280 v5. I have ubuntu 8 installed with pci passthrough via kqemu with different video cards like the gtx 1070, geforce 3, VooDoo 2, and the diamond edge 3d 3240 all on the same mobo. I currently run all operating systems (windows 10, XP, 98, 3.11) at the same time with different monitors. Took me about 90+ man hours to get it all working, but I have one computer to rule them all.

Im running a 1996 pentium 150 (s3 trio video ess sound) and this has more than enough power for DOS games .. but it has issues running some games from 1990-1991-1992 (have not tried earlier) .. problems like joystick support not working on flight sims .. once it reaches 1993 software things go smoother .. issue seems to need a slower bus/cpu .. Figure that once u move too far from supported hardware u will run into trouble. .

Wow, thanks for the advice on that ESS sound card. That sounds like a wonderful option for playing DOS games on machines without ISA slots. Will keep it in mind.

Unfortunately in my country (Kazakhstan) early and mid AMD processors were not popular, but I succeeded to buy a fully functional functional Pentium 3 computer for only $5. I had been hunting local Craigslist-like board for a couple of months though.

ESS made some good sound chips IMO. That compaq I looked at used the Solo-1 and I also found it to be very good. The noise was probably down to the cheapness of the card, lack of adequate capacitor filtering. Sometimes noise is only on certain slots though. Hey I wanted to ask you, what are you using to create your charts?

This brings back good memories for me; I had that same ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard with a Athlon 64 3500+ with a Nvidia Geforce 6800GT and a whopping 512Mb of Ram back in 2004. Those were good times.

did something similar with that same processor, though running windows ME. No real mode dos natively, but I just boot off floppies when real mode dos is needed. Windows 98 and ME will boot just fine even on a FX9590, (use an older machine with less ram to install windows and install Rloew ram patch from MSFN forums). drivers will be problematic, but most boards have at least one pci slot for a period correct graphics card. Early pci-e cards /might/ work as well, but thats a gamble. some people have them working, others have reported no end of headaches trying to use pci-e graphics.

I loved my old system featuring the Abit NV8 mobo with the nForce4 chipset, AMD Socket 754 Athlon 64 3000+, 3200+ and 3400+ Venice core cpu's (I tried all of them), Crucial Ballistix DDR 400 ram (2 - 512 sticks), Sapphire X800 Pro PCI-E video card with 256 mb GDDR3 ram and Maxtor STM3200820A 200 GB hard drive, A n aftermarket cpu cooler and a high end 450W PSU. That thing would OC like crazy! The Abit mobo had some very nice cpu voltage selections and great ram options. The Crucial would hit DDR500 speeds and all the Venice cpu's would do 2.7+ ghz. On a Socket 754 Overclocking forum the only thing to top me was a Newcastle core Athlon 64. That one really rocked it. Those were the good old days! I still have the setup at home in a different case but I need to put that old psu back in it to crank up the speeds again. It has a cheaper psu in it at the moment and can't do better than 2.5 ghz. I also still have my Asus KV8 (K8T800 chipset) with the same ram and hard drives as above that originally had an ATI X800 Pro AGP video card. I replaced that card with an X1600 Pro and that system is still soldiering on as well. Both systems ran Windows XP like champs.

Prices have changed in 4 years. Socket 939 m/bs and CPU’s are not so cheap these days. ESS Solo-1 cards are also now difficult to find, with the few on eBay starting at around £40 - £50. However there is a seller on Aliexpress selling for around £14, but no wave table header 😕. Does socket AM2 / 2+ provide similar versatility and compatibility? For my retro system I opted for the socket 939 track and it does provide great performance with an Opteron 180 and Radeon HD4650 (agp) but all these components are quite expensive and better value with added performance specs can be found on the AMD 2/2+ platforms. Is this the better choice or do I stick with socket 939?

I have soundcard like that, but the volume can't be reduced to lower than 6% on windows 10... Upper 6% it's still loud, but lower it, it's like silent / mute...

3000+ (Venice) with 1.8 GHz is the best CPU for a retro gaming pc. It should not have more than 2.0 GHz because some games will cause bugs when CPU clock is too high.

I still have a fully functional Athlon 64 3700+ working on a A8V-MX motherboard with Windows 8.1 installed. It Works perfectly

It's so helpful seeing you work through issues. Working with retro PC games is often a case of having to deal with weird issues, and there's a lot you do I wouldn't have thought of trying if you hadn't pointed out. Thank you for being so thorough

i have had those issues several times with all kinds of sound cards. its due to interference from your monitor refresh rate. changing it makes the tone faster or slower. i went back to my CRT and there was no issue.

hey, I happen to have that exact motherboard! lol

Finally the S939 build! Great video! I really like how you share the issues you run into and the various troubleshooting attempts you try before coming to a solution. I've been working on a S939 build using the Asrock Dual-VSTA board with the hopes of making a hybrid late 98/XP machine. Some notes/comparisons with my own S939: - My 4000+ (2.4ghz) has no issues with down-clocking and get can it to go as low as 723mhz -- very useful since there are even some 9x games that have speed issues. Outcast for instance has some gamestoppers if you CPU exceeds 800mhz. At this speed my Quake benchmarks were right in line with a Pentium III Coppermine between 750-850mhz. -FX5900 Ultra and Geforce 4 Ti4200 both gave me some issues in DOS. watch?v=Y_xP5jkz6XE watch?v=yvtj82uRzFA these videos show the flickering or 'screen shaking' that occurs in PCPBench Most of all though, the Build Engine games like Duke Nukem and Blood ran awful. When I dropped down to a Geforce 3, Blood can do 1600x1200 @ 50FPS and Duke Nukem the same at 60FPS. Interestingly other resolutions like 800x600 in Blood will often report something like 7 FPS on the counter ... while the gameplay is actually completely fluid and feels like 60FPS. This is all of course with WC enabled -- there's some pretty bad screen tearing without WC. -At full speed (2.4ghz) I get the following benchmarks in Quake (with WC enabled): 300x200 - 223.1 FPS 640x480 - 85.1 FPS 800x600 - 57.9 FPS 1024x768 - 40.5 FPS 1280x1024 - 41.9 FPS These were done with the FX5900 so I haven't tested to see if there was any difference with the Geforce 3.

How is the Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra motherboard?

That intrigued me. I build my former Athlon XP 3200+ machine which I had it until 2009, but with a 9600 PRO (for Windows 98 SE compatibility) instead of 3850 AGP and the A7V880 instead of the GA-7N400PRO2 (which was donated). For sound card I used my old Audigy Gamer (I had the X-Fi music back on 2009) from my first Socket A build (1900+ XP) back on 2001. But... Some issues made me select the A8V Deluxe and the Athlon64 x2 4400+ due to VIA's Windows 9x support. This machine is for dual early XP and late Windows 9x gaming... I didn't knew that the cool n' quiet compatible cpu's of that era had unlocked multipliers...

One interesting thing about Athlon 64 builds is that you can run every single OS from DOS to Windows10 64-bit on such system. The only uncertain thing is too much RAM for older Windows OS. I know win98/winME can be limited manually to 512MB. Win3.1 probably uses what DOS uses (thus RAM can be limited within DOS). As for win95, I never researched it, but it's probably possible to limit RAM too in it.

HECK YES !!!!! ... I love my retro pc i actually use a ATHLON 64x2 i wanted a dual core form my retro ... SO HAPPY with this build of yours phil also on my retro i use a MSI AGP motherboard the MSI MS-N1996 with a AMD duron processor but it works well lol

Somehow, I got interested in retro gaming again and pulled out my old NES and started gaming. I also bought a SEGA Genesis flashback, model 2. It is pretty sweet. I have never had a Genesis back then. I have never touched one. 3D Realms had even ported Duke Nukem 3D to the Genesis. It is actually 3D but simpler.

Very nice tutorial. I am looking forward to rebuild this as i have exactly the same components from the days. You mentioned a throttling tool for the cpu to make it even slower. Can you please provide a link to this tool or any tutorial for this, or did you mean the SetMul tool?

I love doing stuff like this I have older parts laying around and I like building up my old computers once in a while just to see what it will do now it's fun going down memory lane lol

Also, if you want EAX support, the onboard sound chip AD1988 SoundMAX on that motherboard has an excellent implementation of the EAX and the EAX 2.0 technologies

Guys I need an advice, I need a mATX form factor socket 754 motherboard, that supports Turion 64, has the socket lower down on the board rather than right at the top, and has proper support for win98 gaming, so no nforce chipsets and such that are known to not work well with win98.I can see theres a few motherboards that fit these criteria but Im not sure which is the best of them. Reason for me wanting the socket to be placed lower down the board is because I will be fitting it in a dual system case, and the graphics card of the top system overhangs the bottom system a bit and will interfere with the cpu cooler in the lower system if the socket is too high up.

What version chipset driver worked on 98? Because I'm about to do this, but painfully recall how frustrating this board was for windows XP

Silent Hunter II has table fog!

I never managed to get anything good out of the SX variant of the CMI8738, but the vanilla CMI8738 and the CMI8738-LX always worked fine for me in Windows. In DOS, though, that was another story. OPL3 worked fine, but any digitized audio would either fail outright or work with severe problems. Most of the time, when digitized audio would work, it would play back at a higher pitch than it should, but more often than not, it either never worked or would play back at what seemed like double speed. Also, it sounds like the stereo outputs are reversed on the CMI8738's OPL3 core. What driver did you use for the CMI8738 in DOS? Maybe my drivers are crap. Here's an interesting extra about the CMI8738 and modern PCs: with custom drivers (and fake signing in Test Mode on 64-bit versions of Windows), you could use the OPL3 functionality of the CMI8738 on Windows 10 with specific builds of DOSBox. I did this on my main Ryzen 7 1700-based PC and got some good results. PCI Express variants of the card exist as well which can be used on a modern PC if the motherboard lacks PCI slots. However, I advise mixing in the audio from the CMI8738 (LX variant, preferably) with the on-board audio of the motherboard as the OPL3 is extremely quiet with these custom drivers and there is no volume control on offer for it. The idea is to use the Line In of any Realtek on-board audio (or other PCI Express sound card) and apply some gain to the input until volume levels are properly matched between DOSBox on the primary card and OPL3 from the CMI8738. The Solo-1 is pretty good, though I could never get it to cooperate with the floppy disk edition of X-Wing. The game will hard-crash under DOS and exit out with an error under Windows the minute it attempts to play back any digitized speech on that card. Another driver issue, perhaps?

I have way too many of these boards(Socket 754) and chips(Athlon 64) lol. I do need to pick up one of those sound cards! Nice video, I was wondering if I could use 98 and DOS together as 98 is the first PC OS I had growing up.

Wait did I seriously see a CMI8738 card in here? lmao, I'm using one right now for OPL3 in Windows Couple things to note are that some, but not all cards have those CD audio connectors and that not all CMI8738 chips have OPL3 inside.

Athlon 64 makes for a wonderful, and powerful Windows 98 setup. For the nvidia graphics drivers, I've had more issues than success using older versions vs the last release for Win98 - but I'm sure this varies based on the motherboard/chipset and of course video card series.

NFS4 FTW :D

Although most of the games you would run on Windows 98 run more than perfectly on The CPU down clocked to 1ghz, have you thought of doing a Windows 98 scaling video just to see how Windows 98 games/benchmarks scale with clock speed, if you could get a hold of a cheap A64 or Mobile A64 with 1MB of cache it would be interesting to see if the size of the cache affects performance in Windows 98 and DOS.

My latest experiment is a late Dos-windows XP machine running a Core 2 Extreme X6800 on an ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA. The cool thing about this board is it supports AGP and PCI-E GPU's (PCI-E is limited to 4x though :/). I'm already running an FX 5900 in it but waiting for an HD 5770 to come in the mail for that late 2000's XP gaming!

I owned a custom built Athlon 64 setup back in the day; it was a great gaming PC. It was the first PC I owned where the processor lasted me a good 2 1/2 years before I had to upgrade it. I did eventually upgrade the video card, but that’s all I had to do.

For me and AMD Athlon64 is easy to obtain.... I never threw out my old 3000+ with nForce 3 and my AMD Opteron 170 dual core and nForce 4 =D I still have my Audigy to pair with either of them and a Live! Platinum if it's too new should I build a Win 98 SE retro system. Right now the single core is paired with Windows XP and the Opteron is paired with Vista Home.

I ordered this exact board (A8V-UAYVZ) on an auction site and I was the only bidder. Unknown CPU and RAM at the moment, but I'll post a video about it once I receive it.

I had errors all over the place with the 45.23 driver myself using my NV18 based 128MB Palit GeForce 4 MX 440 128-bit AGP 8x card on my Tyan Tomahawk 440BX Socket 370 motherboard with my Celeron 400A Mendocino on Windows 98se. Changing to the 56.64 driver fixed that. Maybe 45.23, which may be just fine with AGP 4x cards, doesn't like GeForce 4 series AGP 8x cards?

really cool build. those boards are realy cheap and even can do some xp gaming. it is nice to see them run better with w98. i found a athlon xp and a fx5200 agp card and works even better than some modern pc for certain games. those machine toppe at winxp but this is a cleaver way to give it more power without spending.

I've got a s754 WIN98 machine. I was pretty happy with it until I got to know there are AM2 boards with AGP and VIA K8M800 chipset. Those should be perfect for a dual-boot 98/XP rig.

I love this build. I think I still have a Athlon 64 FX-55 CPU somewhere.

building a dos pc with a 64 pit cpu.... Man it took us so long to move to 64 bit

Ahh... The Athlon 64.... It was used in my first pc I ever owned....

Another fun project and a great video, Phil. Thanks! I missed out on 939/AM2. I recall having trouble playing UT2004 with a max player count even on an Athlon XP 3200+ and wondering what else I could do. But I hadn't really looked at the options for new builds in a while (this was around 2005) as otherwise my systems did everything else I needed just fine - that 3200+ was handling Cubase well. But I decided to go for a Socket 754 build and was shocked at how much faster everything was, including UT2004! AMD made huge strides in those days, it's good to see them back in the game in a similar fashion today.

The Athlon 64 3200+ stomped a mud hole in the 3 Intel Pentium 4 processors I had back then, in most games and benchmarks. I had a 2.5GHz P4 that would not overclock for anything (it maxed out my motherboard's front side bus out of the box) a 2.8GHz Northwood core P4 that I got clocked up to 3.45GHz stable (3.5GHz would cause blue screens without more voltage, that I was not willing to add) and finally a 3.5GHz Prescott that stayed stock and was the fastest of the bunch... And my roommate's 3200+ Athlon 64 beat all of them, more so when he overclocked. When he went to an Athlon 64 x2 4200+... there was just no contest! When I bought that machine off of him, hell that dual core beast was my main computer into the early-mid AMD FX series. When I went to an Athlon II x4, it was a decent step up but the Phenom II x6 1045T (overclocked to 3.4GHz) 1045T I upgraded to was a HUGE step up. Then moved on from there to a 4.5GHz overclocked Intel i5 3570K that was again, a nice big step up... but now I have an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and I LOVE this machine! Back in the Athlon 64 days, AMD was amazing, and I am so happy to see AMD is back on their performance game!

Via Chipset from that period? Make sure not to use Sata2 (or higher) drives on the Sata-Ports, if the motherboard have the VT8237, VT8237R, VT6420 or VT6421L Southbridge. They have a bug, that makes them incompatible to them. See also: www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1012674/via-warns-hard-drive-chipset-incompatibility

I have a KV-X SE with a AMD Athlon 64 3400 and a Radeon 3850 AGP with 2GB of RAM which Soundcard would you recommend me? And if I would want to switch motherboard and ram which would you recommend me? Thanks

Is there a Shelving unit like this that just has Random mounting holes for Different Motherboard Types? Then you can Add an additional Rack Level and Setup Another System... Then even have a Shelf on top/bottom with a KVM...?

well it is windows limitation about hot-plugging PS/2 devices Linux does support hot-plugging PS/2 devices, which I have learnt hard way (BIOS refused to work with keyboard, which I just have been using in Linux). It goes so far that you can unplug PS/2 keyboard plug it into mouse PS/2 socket and do same, but exactly opposite action with mouse.Both mouse and keyboard will work, even when mouse would be plugged into keyboard port and keyboard would be plugged into mouse port. To make matters even more surprising IRQ 12 would still register mouse, even when plugged into keyboard port and IRQ 1 will register keyboard while in mouse port. Once again PS/2 hot-plug is fine, unless you are using sad windows BUT to get keyboard port working you MUST have anything plugged there on power up - mouse port does have same limitation.

I actually do have an old school socket 939 LanParty NF4 SLI Board from DFI that has an athlon 64 3800+ in it that I got for free. :) Very interesting board, though very picky about memory lol.

I would love one of those Asrock 939 boards with AGP and PCI-E boards for this kind of testing

I still got a +3000 Athlon 64 but it refuses to boot anymore, I don't know if it's the Mobo, ram or the CPU that just died, unfortunately it's not easy to find old parts in good shape and price in my country to bring him back to life again.

Unfortunately 64 bit processors are not compatible with 16 bit software

Nice video, i bought the same motherboard and cpu about 6 months back for my retro system. Haven't got around to setting it up yet though, looks like i chose well!

DOOD do one on retro IBM OS2 Warp!

that interference is sourced at your voltage basically power supply plus VRM for CPU and on graphics will always create some noise this time it is too much for old card, which was designed in era, when such interference was not issue, as it was in range of small ripple of few to several milivolts or less, but now it is in range of tens of milivolts and such card is design, when such ripple was simply non existent in PC

Used the same cpu for almost 9 years until it finally died in April 2014

I always try to install Windows Games on my main Windows 10 PC. Which is often not that great, but nothing is better for the lazy person that launching a game from the start menu.

Funny enough, I have an A8V deluxe that I'm doing a build with, and got with it a Radeon HD 2600 Pro. Granted I am using XP because that's what I have legit key(s) for, but good god the amount of migraine this combination has caused me. How do you install stuff to even get it to behave and be stable? The fact that it is an AGP card isn't helping, because AMD's last drivers for the series of graphics cards claim they're compatible, but when you go to check, nothing actually installs. And if you use the device manager method to install the drivers for the Radeon on such a combination, I've had where it wouldn't even let me go into safe mode without instantly BSOD'ing. So how do I tame this beast?

for anyone looking for the benchmark tool he used www.philscomputerlab.com/dos-benchmark-pack.html

Did you just put that cooler on the CPU without thermal compound.....LOL.

I had this board. Loved it! One of the best agp boards out there, dual channel ddr400, sat, good overclocking. I bet it is still snappy today compared to most store bought computers provided you could get enough ram into it.

Do you play games from disks or are they downloaded online on those systems, just bought an old 2005 dell dimension with penntuim IIII and 4gb ddr2

This made a great video! I've never seen anyony go with the Athlon 64 for running DOS or 98. I bet it'll be helpful for someone who wants to try out older games on their retro rig :) But in my opinion this is more suited for XP, but if it's the one machine you have then I totally understand why you would want to run something older on it. On occasion at least :)

That Athlon 64 3200+ was my very first CPU, paired with an Asus A8N-Sli mobo and a GeForce Fx 5500. Very nostalgic build to me.

Have you ever tried the special driver by NVIDIA to enable wide screen resolution? Also, I recommend you to install DirectX 8.1b instead of DirectX 7. In case you don't know, check my post in your Facebook Group.

actually you could try to run Athlon 64 on 0.8v at 1000MHz. It should run on it or at very close voltage. I was running AMD Phenom II X6 1100T on 0.8V on 800MHz. 1.2v was enough for 3.3GHz.

Where did u get your copy of Windows 98 from And the DOS disks for that matter

Awesome channel... I've been playing most of my old games either in DOSBox or by dual booting for years, but the list of working titles is slowly dwindling down as time goes on. By the time I got to Ryzen most things were a no-go. It's time for a dedicated retro PC for Win98. I ditched most of my really old hardware years ago unfortunately, so will probably have to go the P4 route. I still have some old video and sound cards as well. This channel is really going to help me to narrow down a hardware combination. Thanks! BTW, Linux is a viable option for playing old games on modern systems if you don't mind a lot of trial and error.

The first motherboard I had the pleasure of owning. Still have and use it to this day for xp gaming.

Athlon 64s were absolutely amazing. I worked at a System Builder back in 2003-2006, and we were one of the lead AMD system builders. The performance of the A64 just blew the doors off of the P4. It wasn't until the Core2Duo came about that Intel could compete (and ultimately exceed) with what AMD was doing.

I still have an old XP machine with one of those Motherboard needs new caps so it doesn't turn on anymore

why use a separate Sound Card?? don't the motherboard have a fully compatible soundblaster integrated??

Nice one! I just refurbished an old Compaq desktop with the ESS Solo-1 es1938s chipset onboard. It had no problems in DOS but I can attest to the ESS Solo-1 Windows drivers being a problem. I’ll give the Terratec ones a try. :)

How well will Windows 98SE play with an old Athlon X2 4400+?

Great video Phil, i enjoyed it a lot nice approach at DOS gaming. I recently brought up my old AMD 64 and 64x2 CPU/MOBO off the attic in my parents home. Was thinking of building a 2004/2005 machine, maybe some project for you?

Hello Phil, I have build a windows 98se athlon64 x2 machine ( i know just one core is used it was some hardware i had lying around at the office ) for dos and windows 98se and also have the cmi based pci soundcard there is a pci latency fix for this to fix the with noice under windows 98se i have it at the office so i can sent it to you so you could see if the problem with the noice is fixed. It is a problem with the via chipset more soundcards had this problem like the soundblaster live 1024 card

Great stuff Phil. I am very impressed with this PCI sound card. I wonder if it works with MIDI. My i7 Motherboard has a PCI slot. I will probably buy this card and install DOS on my i7 using this card. You're right, it's a breakthrough - the card sounds as good as ISA cards and it's inexpensive. Thanks!!!

I had an Athlon XP 2500+ 98SE build with a Radeon 9200SE, 512 MB DDR 400 memory in dual channel, 120 GB hard drive. That system flew! Too bad the board failed in a few months, it was rather nice for later games.

I used to have one of these CPU's which overclocked relatively well. I matched it up with a Radeon X1800 Pro which seemed to be quite a good pairing although at that time I didn't know enough to look for bottlenecks in the system.

I used to play Lemings and Indy 500 back then.

No thermals paste??? Hdd touching the ground???

Why are you using a x64 processor for a x86 operating system?

Still have my opteron 152 s939

0:39 no thermal paste? Phill pls

Great video as always. I have one retro machine based on via kt400 chipset and no matter what, without via 4in1 or Hyperion, d3d couldn't start. Keep it up, Phill, you have great support from us, old gamers

Am I the only guy who seen no thermal compound on that heatsink?

What do you think about KernelEX on Windows 98?

This is way over kill for windows 98 and very good for windows kp

Where did you get that test bench? Or...Did you build it?

And here we have 7 dislike trolls. Good indepth video video Phill. Do you have any experience with the Audigy 2 ZS and SB Live PCI cards in DOS ? DO they work in DOS with most games?And which works best with DOS emulated drivers? Do DOS have any issues with a 512 memory stick? (I don't have smaller in DDR) I might be converting my A64 PC to WIn98 instead of XP. But now.. looks like it might work in DOS as well? (But my old 6.22/ Pentium 133 is not going anywhere :) Will build a C2D E6600 /4GB RAM / 8800GT PCI-E to handle WinXP instead. That should eat any WIn XP games up to 2008 on max settings - except Crysis! :) Also regarding videocard. My 7600 AGP looks like have to be switched with my Geforce 6600 AGP. That does work in 98. From Grforce 7xxx upwards.. no WIn98 support in drivers. Retro building is time consuming... All be aware! (Thank god..I have the best most patient GF in the world!! - well she have to be to be with me - because I'm not changing my passion) :)

Hi, how are you?, my name is Diego. (first, sorry by my bad english, im from Colombia so i speak spanish). I have a question that I would like ask you. I found old PC pieces and build a Windows 98 SE machine with that. Asrock P4i45GV Rev 5.01, Pentium 4 2.8 GHz, RAM 512MB. I'm not sure for what sound card that is compatible, and the same for a GPU. I would like play MSDOS games like DUKE 1 and 2, Monster Bash from apogee, etc, but my actual configuration dont let me play with sound (i understand is because de MB sound card not work with DOS games, i need some compatible Sound Card) Thanks a lot, great video!! Regards from Colombia (and again sorry by my bad english).