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Building A Directional Yagi Antenna for 144 VHF or 433 UHF Amature Radio! 

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Hello everyone, lets build a YAGI! This can be scaled up and down to different frequencies and different amounts of gain just depends on how large of a antenna you wand to build!
Video Index:
0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Parts Required
2:25 - Measurements & Calculation
4:04 - Straighten Copper Pipe
6:14 - Final Dimensions For Copper Pipes
9:20 - Beam placement and Marking
17:35 - Dipole Construction
34:00 - Reflector Construction
38:24 - Passive Construction
40:45 - Verifying Electrical Connections
43:30 - Glamor Shots
The STL files can be downloaded from here: drive.google.com/file/d/1p-Yc...
The Yagi Calculator can be found here: www.changpuak.ch/electronics/...
If you have any questions feel free to let me know, I did print with some support material and used 1/4" hardware through out each build will require a slightly different number of bolts / hardware depending on what is being built. If you want to use a non conductive center beam you can but have to run the ground back to the reflector with a wire ensure its the ground (shielded side of the RF cable).

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@bradleyjohnson452
@bradleyjohnson452 2 года назад
I like the design idea. For me I would use Arrows that are already straight and more rigid than copper pipe. Great video
@watchmanmichael2023
@watchmanmichael2023 3 года назад
Awesome!
@SpectreOZ
@SpectreOZ 3 года назад
Possibly the most "over engineered" solution to Yagi construction I have ever seen... good for you, whatever gets you on the air 👍
@tedmead465
@tedmead465 5 месяцев назад
Use alumiweld rod( the type you use a propane torch with) You can tin the aluminum with it. Then rosin core solder will bond to it.
@smartazz61
@smartazz61 Год назад
Those terms are used in a nice, free Yagi Calculator. That person calls the driven element the dipole. Somehow even though the guy that designed and uploaded the Yagi Calculator used the "incorrect" terms, thousands of folks have made really nice yagis with it. And there's another really important piece of information here. The guy/gal that made this nice calculator may be using English as a second, third, or fourth language if not more. I don't know about you but I only speak one language. Have you ever written instructions? Give them to five people and you'll receive five sets of things you did "wrong" with said instructions. So my hat is off to the person that gave us the chang something calculator. I for one used it to sniff out Power Company Equipment that was ruining my radio hobby. In one hour I found the bad component/s. Even though the calculator maker called the driven element a "dipole". Which.....it actually is. Oh well. Some folks should just buy what they need. And to oh so illustrious maker of the Chang something calulator, thank you. And always remember. "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished!"
@effco
@effco 2 года назад
Hello, nice video ! Can you put the list of material necessary (the list you show at 1:53) in the video description ?
@jetman5814
@jetman5814 3 года назад
Great job. Thanks for the video and the STL files. Would you be willing to share the native CAD files so I can scale them in OnShape? Pretty much any solid format will work. Before I start messing around with the STL files, I figured I'd ask. Would save me a heap of time...
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
Yeah when I get off work I will upload the fusion file.
@seandrake7534
@seandrake7534 Месяц назад
If you lay your cut copper on your bench and put a board over the top and roll it back and forth it will straighten the copper tubing
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 года назад
Could you answer a question I have about antenna. Would using elements that are larger in diameter than standard needed and having schotsky triangles cut into the metal around the circumference increase the gain and signal to noise ratio ???
@deodeo803
@deodeo803 Год назад
Hello, I was wondering, if I'll use a steel bracket to hold the elements, will the gain of the antenna be affected???
@Furby_assassin
@Furby_assassin 3 месяца назад
You can just chuck that copper tube in your drill. Then get a piece of wood with a hole that is slightly bigger then the tube. Put the tube through the hole. Spin the tube with the drill dragging the wood at an angle down the tube (starting from the drill).
@ferminenriquezamorapineda2832
@ferminenriquezamorapineda2832 2 года назад
I am a little confused about the ground connection, shall the ground of the coaxial cable be connected to the center body? And what happens if the reflector isn't connected to it?
@W4TRI
@W4TRI 3 года назад
4:30 Orange Wacky Stick makes it straight!
@piconano
@piconano Год назад
I've made a 5 element 1.6GHz Yagi with a signal element that's 90mm long. Using 2mm bare wire as elements. I have to cut this piece into 2x45mm pieces to hook up to the coax cable? What about the 2-3 mm minimum distance I can manage keeping them apart? Does the gap between the ground and signal poles matter? Do I have to trim the length of the wires after assembly?
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
Wouldn't it be easier to have all your small parts in a bowl? That way you do not have to search for those parts all over the Table. Soldering to copper pipe can be done by tinning both wire and copper tubing before hand so your supports will not risk being melted.
@jessenoway
@jessenoway Месяц назад
Hi mate, thanks for the tutorial. There is a lot of great information here! Iv been trying to do a bit of research on yagi antennas and have a few questions im hoping you (or anyone in the comments) can answer for me. 1) When you are making your driven element, (the steeman yagi antenna calculator seems pretty good for calculating element lengths from what i can tell) it appears you remove 1/4 inch material from the middle to create the 1/4 inch gap between the two halves of the dipole. is this correct? wouldn't it be better the cut the the driven element directly in the half and just space the 2 halves 1/4 inch a part? 2) Some designs like the design show at the bottom of the steeman yagi antenna calculator page use a gamma matching rod. when you compare something like that to a more simple design like you have shown in your video, is there really much of a difference in terms of performance? 3) This is the only design iv seen so far that connects the reflector element to ground. why do you do this and how necessary is it? 4) I've seen some designs use a "hairpin match" which eclectically connects the the two halves of the dipole. what is the purpose of this and why do you choose not to use one? 5) I've seen some designs that don't insulate the parasitic elements from the aluminum boom. does it really matter? apologies if you clearly explain any of these points and iv just missed it. my little pea brain is slightly overwhelmed! any help/advice you (or anyone) can give is highly appreciated!
@k2icc
@k2icc 2 года назад
Where do you get the hardware to mount the elements from? Thanks.
@bretsinger2843
@bretsinger2843 2 года назад
were are the supports for the individual directors they are not in the file that you can down load ?
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
I would suggest two reflectors, and five directors (always an odd number for directors) for greater forward gain and a greater null towards the back of the beam. Add a non conductive holder at the back of the boom to avoid RF burns (even at five watts you can get an rf burn holding the boom). Depending on the coax you use, this beam can be used up to 25 watts power into the antenna. I recommend RG-8X for all power levels because there is little loss from the coax and RG-8X is flexible enough to bend at a 2" radius.
@RollerCam
@RollerCam Год назад
There's a reason that no one uses two reflectors. Zero benefit is the main one. And you "recommend" 8X? In a three foot run? Seriously? Have you ever built a successful antenna or do you just THEORIZE about stuff?
@CharlesM-dp4xe
@CharlesM-dp4xe 2 года назад
Have you ever tried Cad-Weld products ? I use it for grounding towers but with a little ingenuity I imagine it can be used in other applications utilizing brass brazing rods.
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
Nice video for a beginner, some new ideas printing the antenna supports, and it is very obvious some thought went into building this antenna instead of "buying off the shelf" that so many do, but do not learn the principles of how it actually works. Nice job! Next time you will do much better! 73's de W4FJF.
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
You mean "reflector", "Driven", and "director" elements? That is the way most (or all) antenna builders name the elements in a yagi beam construction.
@joohop
@joohop 2 месяца назад
New Subscriber From Aberystwyth , Wales Do You Sell Those Units ? Bless Up
@AviJoncic
@AviJoncic 2 года назад
I have a question, it may be stupid but I need an answer. When I calculate the dimensions for VHF and UHF I get different dimensions, of course. How do I assemble one VHF / UHF antenna from these dimensions?
@OzarkGeek
@OzarkGeek 3 года назад
Nice job. Any thoughts on selling the brackets? Could be a side jig.
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
Thank you! Sadly it does not seem very possible at least at my scale. The models are uploaded and in the description so they can be printed by a company like shapeways / thingaverse ect and they have much faster and streamlined process for creating and shipping prints. I am interested in trying to make a variant that only requires basic tools but we will see how that pans out!
@OzarkGeek
@OzarkGeek 3 года назад
@@concentricmachining4636 Thanks! I'll look into those services
@honda435
@honda435 4 месяца назад
Im new to ham and ive just built a 70 cm 7 element yagi it has TIG rod elements and a non conductive boom i did not connect the reflector can you please explane the why its needed and can i just run a wire down then boom to connect them thank you for your time and help
@kc6nnv
@kc6nnv 2 года назад
Liked your concept. Wish had printer.suggest using 3/4" boom which would allow use of higher grade coax internal to the boom. Also. Bad engineering to have cu and Al in contact. Thinking of using your design concept but with drilled and sliced blocks of lexan. Lot cheaper than printer and maybe stronger. How was the performance? That would make a good short video. Thanks. 73 and keep up the ham spirit. De KC6NNV. DM14
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 2 года назад
Those sound like excellent ideas! It out performed by dipole in a tree I was able to hit the PSRG repeater from bremerton WA on 500mw which is not half bad for its size! If you end up making something let me know I love to see other projects!
@antoinelb6532
@antoinelb6532 3 года назад
Nice video! Where can we find the material?
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
Hello! The copper tubing came form a local hardware store but is in US (imperial) dimensions... The 3D models will need to be scaled to the nearest metric equivalents or new models designed. The 3D Prints can be ordered online see the other comments in this video. Or you can print your own. The rest should be easy to find at a local hardware store or online retailers.
@eelcogg
@eelcogg Год назад
Why is there money coming out of the ground outside?
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 Год назад
There is usually an optimum radial diameter for each frequency, this can be worth looking into for optimization.
@loudsonicbug2195
@loudsonicbug2195 3 года назад
How much of a difference would it make, if I use a PVC pipe instead of an aluminium beam? The grounding can be made with simple cable connections, am I right?
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
This will work 100% final tuning is recommended for all antennas in situ as elevation above ground and feed line length are important in effective radiated power. If handheld it will be close enough for decent performance. Just ensure that the cable used is large enough for the amperage you want to transmit. There are a few lookup tables around the internet! If you end up building one share a picture or two with us!!!
@cana5312
@cana5312 5 месяцев назад
Hi, I am building one or the 144MHz, do you guys have any suggestion about the thickness of the pipe? I heard that the pipe diameter will decide the bandwidth of the antenna.
@paulshockieuk2651
@paulshockieuk2651 4 месяца назад
Wow you can gab
@seandrake7534
@seandrake7534 Месяц назад
Can you please tell me what size of copper tubing you used
@alexsaptetrei
@alexsaptetrei 2 месяца назад
Why do you isolate the elements from the mast? Not needed.
@djbeezy
@djbeezy 2 года назад
Can you pick up the ISS with this?
@SHADOW-bg4mm
@SHADOW-bg4mm 3 года назад
Is there a difference from using copper vs aluminum? Cause I have a lot of 1/2in aluminum square tubings and 1in?
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
I'm sure there'll be a difference in the radiation pattern not too much though. The hardest thing about using aluminum is the ability to solder to it. I generally use mechanical connections like a set screw. although there are a couple chemical processes that allow you to deposit a layer of copper atoms on some etched aluminum I do need to do some testing before I can recommend that though.
@SpectreOZ
@SpectreOZ 3 года назад
In short no, that's why most commercial antennas you see are constructed of aluminium, radiation pattern or RF pattern can be visually mapped out with a field strength meter, this is where the benefit of experimentation will yield the most results 👍
@tomstrum6259
@tomstrum6259 3 года назад
Quite the personalized "unique" diy yagi.. .Deff the smallest od boom using the largest fastening hardware ever seen ! ...Usually, most yagi calculators design for either All elements (Except driven dipole elements) grounded to boom or all are insulated from boom & each a significantly Different element length Set....Your Directors seem to be floating insulated from boom with both Reflector & Driven elements boom grounded ??? .....Your 1/100 " dimensionals measured with tape rule & fat "Sharpie" marked is interesting mix...Without any impedance matching (at least a "hairpin" matcher) feature, do you really expect near 50 ohms feed Z or a reasonably decent, safe SWR from online Calc direct to wham-banged cut & assembled without some tweaking ?? What SWR (your "finals" Will thank you ! ) results did you achieve before using ??....
@SpectreOZ
@SpectreOZ 3 года назад
Agreed, tuning is necessary for maximum performance benefit 👍
@karlmadsen3179
@karlmadsen3179 Год назад
Thanks....but I checked out at "3D-printed brackets". Cute, but I'd rather do something with off-the-shelf components. Maybe I'll check it out later.....
@DoctorMangler
@DoctorMangler 2 года назад
Just drill some holes in the aluminum spar to an OD that will match some pvc or vinyl tubing stretched over your copper and you won't have to dick with the printed stuff. Printed stuff is ok, but it's weak and unnecessary in most cases. Friction fit bushings would serve you well for many years. Carbon fiber is also an option but those require fittings and that's usually the weak point and makes for finicky assembly.
@tsilfidis1996
@tsilfidis1996 3 года назад
Awesome! i tried the calculator and it doesn't show me the dipole length only the position...
@concentricmachining4636
@concentricmachining4636 3 года назад
The dipole is standard dipole size! Use any dipole calculator or even use a loop or other kind of driven element. 468 / F = Len in feet. 144 is roughly 3.25' and 433 is roughly 1.08'! Good luck!
@tsilfidis1996
@tsilfidis1996 3 года назад
@@concentricmachining4636 thanks!
@waynepetry1011
@waynepetry1011 Год назад
I read many others comments but.. How would you calculate an effective range of transmission
@petehowey4909
@petehowey4909 8 месяцев назад
Antennas are measured primarily in SWR, which is signal quality. The range is limited by earth's curvature but you can actually reach the space station (250 miles) with a properly built yagi. With ham radio or GMRS you can reach repeater stations which give you great quality and distance of about 20 miles. There are some issues with this antenna design but the 3d printed parts are beautiful. I will use the 3d parts, but will design the elements and their measurements off of "$4 space station yagi". If you're using GMRS you will want to calculate frequency at 465Mhz
@jakartatravelling
@jakartatravelling 4 месяца назад
Hello bro, how many lenght Dpole for counting 144mhz ?
@robertbobbitt8448
@robertbobbitt8448 3 года назад
here is a thought Use rigid copper But good design Thanks
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
"Oxyguard" is an excellent way to isolate copper from aluminum to eliminate any galvanic action between dissimilar metals. Oxyguard (or its equivalent) can be found at any electrical supply store.
@sjoervanderploeg4340
@sjoervanderploeg4340 2 года назад
You can roll them flat between two pieces of wood!
@frequencywatchers
@frequencywatchers Год назад
Why Inches? Needs To Be Inches AND Metric Systtem Please, But Damn, I Need 3D Printer, Sadly Im Poor As Dirt :( Butt What A Cool Yagi Antenna Man, Love Your Enthusiasm About It, Same As Myself. Love To Make Everything Myself
@lomgshorts3
@lomgshorts3 2 года назад
Your "driven" element (or dipole) MUST NOT touch the boom in any way. It must be free floating above ground potential in order to work correctly. The directors can either be free floating or connected to the boom depending on your design. This again is where Oxyguard comes into use on the directors because it protects the copper directors from the aluminum, yet supplies electrical contact if you wish, or your mounts can be free floating also in your design. At the center of each element, the RF current will be zero - so it almost doesn't matter.
@richardp5161
@richardp5161 3 года назад
Has anyone ordered the 3D cross brackets from anyone, would be interested in the cost vs. buying a complete yagi from an antenna manufacturer. I've had estimates that are in the hundreds of dollars for a set of 7 brackets.
@loudsonicbug2195
@loudsonicbug2195 3 года назад
I luckily know people would let me use their 3D printer so I pretty much have to pay the filament only...and even with higher quality pla I'd probably stay below 10$ for all the prints. Maybe you can figure out another way of mounting the tubes accordingly!
@larryrichardson5167
@larryrichardson5167 2 года назад
Check Etsy
@frequencywatchers
@frequencywatchers Год назад
Im So Sad That I Don`t Have 3D Printer, :( :(
@petehowey4909
@petehowey4909 8 месяцев назад
try your local library, if you're in the US. Mine won't allow me to print other people's designs, but the town over allows me to print for 5 cents per gram of plastic.
@robertkeller9828
@robertkeller9828 Год назад
Who has a 3d printer just laying around?
@petehowey4909
@petehowey4909 8 месяцев назад
local library, if you're in the US. Mine won't allow me to print other people's designs, but the town over allows me to print for 5 cents per gram of plastic.
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