Building a Telescope Rig to PHOTOGRAPH GALAXIES

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In this video I share my progress putting together a new telescope rig for astrophotography.
Celestron EdgeHD 11: bit.ly/3oPA8MQ
Hyperstar V4: bit.ly/3rBKSge
This telescope has a focal length of 2800mm, and is perfect for collecting light on small galaxies and planets, but not without its challenges.
Although it is completely different than the astrophotography telescopes I usually use, it should offer me a chance to try some new types of photography.
CORRECTION: The image of NGC 281 was taken by Nathan Duso: www.astrobin.com/users/mumble...
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@MillerDoesIt 4 года назад

I can't speak for everyone but the reason I started following your channel (and eventually got into astrophotography myself) was because you didn't edit out your struggles, frustrations and iterations. It's what makes your channel incredibly educational. A lot of channels exist out there which show the ways things work when everything well.

@thelordofcubing 4 года назад

I've never seen Trevor this excited. It's like Christmas morning 😂

@TheBelrick 4 года назад

I saw a guy use a similar setup... you can see a line that is the usb camera leading away from the camera lol

@BackyardObservatory 4 года назад

"What are you doing down here?" Epic

@TheBelrick 4 года назад

I dont get his advice. The best deep space amateur photography ive seen were on large dobsonian mounts . the battle of exposure time vs. aperture is my guess? that a 14" doing a 30sec (max?) exposure is better than a 132mmm doing 10min ? well i dont know.

@BackyardObservatory 4 года назад

@@TheBelrick The best images being from Dobs is a bit odd as Dobs are the worst for AP, short of handheld. The best to worst for AP is usually EQ, Alt/Az, Dob, handheld. Granted a Dob mount is an Alt/Az mount, but they require one track the target by hand. Not easy to do when imaging, even for the most experienced among us. With all other factors being equal, larger aperture wins every time as it gathers more photons per second vs smaller apertures. This means dimmer objects or more detail for the same period of time, or shorter exposure time for the same amount of data. The shorter exposure time has a distinct advantage of having less images ruined by jets/satellites/clouds/etc..

@KnowledgePerformance7 4 года назад

@@TheBelrick seems odd to comment that on this comment but whatever. Idk where you are getting your images because every amazing photo I have ever seen has been a German mount. Dobs are less accurate for high zoom tracking and suffer from sky rotation

@TheBelrick 4 года назад

@@KnowledgePerformance7 but the cure for lack of rotation is to take SHORTER exposures. as i said. Anyway, watch clips on dob deepsky photos or not. They are breath taking IMHO but you may not care.

@TheBelrick 4 года назад

@@BackyardObservatory if you dont take long exposures then tracking isnt an issue.... tracking is a way to compensate for limited exposure. i think of it as large "eyes" capturing large amounts of light in a short time vs. small "eyes" capturing large amounts of light over a LONG amount of time. 30sec exposure vs. 10min. 400mm squared vs. 132mm. squared 10min exposure is 20 times longer than the absolute most a dob can do but a 16"dob captures 9x the light than a 132mm refractor does. and costs the same. anyway, just thoughts from a fan not actually arguing

@RaysAstrophotography 4 года назад

My kind of stuff! You did pretty well for the first encounter with those giant scopes!

@dontbugme8 4 года назад

Im glad that drop wasn't the secondary!

@michal_king478 3 года назад

yeah I would be so scared id drop the secondary. Good thing the secondary isnt terribly expensive Im guessing since its just a small parabolic mirror (thats bulged outwards instead of inwards ofcourse)

@StargazerFS128 4 года назад

Good luck with the weather Trevor, I'm in southern Ontario also, grey grey grey skies, cant wait to see the results.

@TheAngryAstronomer 4 года назад

Glad to see you're having fun experimenting with different filming styles.

@pathdoc 4 года назад

The Hyperstar doesn't really "convert" the scope from f/10 to f/1.9, it just uses the prime focus which is at f/1.9 instead of the secondary f/10 focus. The lenses are for correction.

@SterrenKijkenInDeStad 4 года назад

Bill Woodward was about to add that comment as well. I thought it was common knowledge most of these type of scopes (Maks also) have very fast main mirrors, basically shaving mirrors. They are often even spherical, which explains the many lenses in the hyperstar to cure spherical aberrations.

@dgdave2673 Год назад

- so you have to use a $1200 Starizona to get back to F2 ? 😮😂😂 That thing is ridiculously priced. Get a dedicated Rasa instead.

@dgdave2673 Год назад

- so you have to use a $1200 Starizona to get back to F2 ? 😮😂😂 That thing is ridiculously priced. Get a dedicated Rasa instead.

@kentswenson2480 4 года назад

Dude! Backward hat, basement techno rave! Never too old 🤙

@iandobbin8068 4 года назад

Great timing, my hyperstar arrived today, partnered with the edgehd 8" I am looking forward to your journey. Unfortunately smoke is having huge effect here in Australia, but still going to have a go ! Clear skies !

@johnnycampbell 4 года назад

Looking forward to following you on your SCT - AP journey! Galaxy season should be a blast. Clear skies to you!

@user-ls8ks7kv8c 4 года назад

Those Celestron Edges are fantastic for planetary imaging as well. Damien Peach uses a C14 and the results speak for themselves

@rawzen5140 3 года назад

i love how easy it is to see how much effort you put into this video, and all your videos. nice job as usual Trevor.

@abramians1 4 года назад

Recently purchased the Celestron EdgeHD 9.25''. Looking forward to getting into photographing galaxies. This was a GREAT review! Really appreciate all the great videos and information that you provide.

@gregbromley152 4 года назад

Awesome video Trevor! More than ever, you're a huge motivation to get deeper into this hobby.

@laidbackobs 4 года назад

Magnificent vide as always Trevor, and thanks for featuring one of my planetary images. The potentials are extraordinary with the EdgeHD.

@dericcaselli3927 4 года назад

Welcome to the mavelous world of the SCT telescopes, they are very versatile and will do so many things well.

@dwha81 4 года назад

Beautiful! Someday I hope to try reflectors.

@CVObservatory 4 года назад

Can't wait!! I have been looking at the Edge telescopes for a while.

@ununquadiumelement4164 4 года назад

I’ve learnt so much from your videos. Thank you so much you really helped my way through astrophotography!

@michaell1473 4 года назад

Can't wait to see what you do with this! I've got a RASA 8 and it's great for wide field. I have been considering getting an Edge HD 8 or 9.5 and swapping out the OTA based off the target, specifically for galaxies and small nebula. I know that whole point of the Hyperstar is that you can do both but it is also almost the price of an 8in Edge HD itself.

@horaciodortona574 4 года назад

Awesome set up with the Edge HD at that focal length accurate guiding is critical so polar alignment has to be spot on. Can't wait to see your images I'm a big fan of your work. Best of luck and of course Clear Skies.

@TexasTimelapse 4 года назад

The most breathtaking views of Saturn I've ever seen were through a 14" SCT. Absolutely amazing!

@latouselatrec 4 года назад

What the f*** is going on there isn't been no pictures of Saturn on here

@davidburchettephotography6513 4 года назад

Can’t wait to see what you get with this setup in the different configurations. Clear skies!

@sking3571 4 года назад

Hey Trevor your going to have a lot of fun and new horizons with this rig. I have the same scope, mount and Celestron 0.7 reducer. I have yet to get the Hyperstar (Maybe in future).As far as cameras I have used the ZWO ASI 294, 071 and 1600mm. Binning 2X2 has given some excellent results. Looking forward to your work with this. I also have setup different complete rigs and it does make it easier. Frustrating this winter as I have not had more than 45 minutes of clear sky since October 28th..

@yannickg6904 4 года назад

Beautiful instrument. Celestrons are such classics. I plan on buidling my own mount one day, I have real Byers worm drives for both axes.

@p7ayfu77tech 4 года назад

Sooo so happy you could try it out. Love ur vids. Keep em coming.

@killahBmasta 4 года назад

Amazing! I own a 8“RC myself. Thrilled to the upcoming videos!! Have fun and cs

@MrSharkb828 4 года назад

I saw the thumbnail and instantly got so excited! Can't wait for some more images and videos. Thanks, Trevor!

@SimonSpe 4 года назад

Just discovered your vids and i must say the quality of your shots are amazing .. keep it up

@wesleydonnelly2141 4 года назад

Congratulations on reaching 100'000 SUBS Trevor!! Amazing! Wes, Liverpool, UK.

@DrivingMoccasins87 4 года назад

You have by far become my favorite channel to keep up with. I’m slowly learning astrophotography with your help. Thanks Trevor. By the way, you’re never too old to wear a backwards hat my man.

@christophercirrincione4320 4 года назад

Great video and you're never too old to wear a cap backward!

@Virindi77 4 года назад

Superb setup. I just picked up a C9.25 this weekend and wait for delivery of my hyperstar. For small galaxies, I'd use it with hyperstar and with small pixels camera, sampling under 1" / pixel rather than long exposures at F6.3.

@TPQ1235 4 года назад

Finally, you are using an SCT. I have loved all your wide field work and especially your perspectives on setups, products, and processes. As someone who has been using a Meade 2120 for over 30 years I am looking forward to a Trevor SCT series!

@AstroBackyard 4 года назад

Thank you - I am really excited to shoot smaller targets!

@Talalpro_1 4 года назад

Omg yes thank you for uploading I’ve been waiting for a new amazing video.

@capturethephotons2078 4 года назад

I love your passion for the night sky. I know the feeling when you wake up live your day and go to sleep with your mind and heart set in the heavens. I will be purchasing my first set up by Spring of this year and hopefully I am out learning the ins-and-outs of astrophotography. I've learned so much from your Channel and others like you in this community. Clear Skies 🌌

@belken117 4 года назад

I have an affinity for telescopes and all that just takes the biggest cake I ever imagine! Looking forward to see the results! Those galaxies are gonna look good!

@donaldbenson5206 4 года назад

Great video Trevor. It's good to see you've open your horizons to big scopes. You didn't mention a guide scope or I missed that. Can't wait to see what you capture first. Clear skies buddy. If you have the hat turned the other way there would be shadows on your face, not good for filming. To each his own. Thanks for bring excitement to your videos, makes me wanna go buy a 9k rig setup too.

@NikonJax 4 года назад

Excellent video Trevor!

@TheUrbanAstronomer 4 года назад

Awesome, look forward to this. Enjoyable video 👌

@andyprice4696 4 года назад

Subscribed! You literally just setup exactly what I was planning on purchasing. 11” edge with hyperstar on a CGX Mount. Can’t wait to see your experiences and results with this rig. I’m saving my pennies now. Also, see if starizona will send you the new night owl reducer. It looks very interesting. And find a target for that baby ASAP! We can’t wait 2 more months. Give us variety. Some planetary and some DSO.

@astroEnthusiast1 4 года назад

Keep up the great work Trevor!!

@MegaDroogKloot 4 года назад

Love your video’s mate, you sparked my intrest in astrophotography And just wear the cap the way you want to wear it 😄

@banukadimuthu4070 4 года назад

I m waiting for see your works with this telescope. All da best !!!!

@jessetrail5330 4 года назад

Wow! Thanks for the brilliant info Trevor. I am new to astrophotography and am eager to start shooting. Here on the coast of Northern California, clear skies are hard to come by. Also looking forward to my first NEAF in April.

@noseonscent1935 4 года назад

Awesome gear Trev! Cheers. Great short video

@richardgracews6 4 года назад

Sweet! I just picked up a clean C8 cheap to give my Arsenal of optics more reach. I can't wait to see the whirlpool up close.

@aperturedriven88 4 года назад

🤣🤣🤣 "what are you doing down here?!" "What??" Looking forward to seeing this setup in action Trevor! I'm wanting in the next year to pick up the same mount, the Edge HD 14" and Hyperstar. Makes sense financially given that this setup + the ASI6200 is only $1000 more the RASA 36cm OTA by itself.

@remcohekker 4 года назад

Wow! Looks great Trevor. I'm excited for you. Can't wait to see some of those galaxies. I do hope they've provided a nice box to store that secondary mirror in...

@MRayInteractive 4 года назад

Actually the cap that unscrews from the hyperstar can thread right on to the secondary - a nice little design decision by Starizona.

@remcohekker 4 года назад

@@MRayInteractive Ah that makes sense. Interesting device, look forward to seeing what it can do.

@michaellewis7768 4 года назад

Thanks for all of your videos. Your authenticity and passion for the hobby are definitely infectious (in a good way). Definitely made me want a telescope (and rescue dog)(my cat would not approve). Also, you should totally do a behind the scenes mockumentry of Rudy and your wife’s perspective as they come across you vlogging around the house and backyard. :-D. Cheers!

@hammett10ify 4 года назад

Can't wait to see the photos you take with that set up

@FreedomToRoam86 4 года назад

Can't wait to see your pics of planets with this beast!

@robsbackyardastrophotograp8885 4 года назад

Very awesome setup, Trevor! Welcome to the wonderful world of cats & casses :)

@kostasrogue 4 года назад

Oh men this is crazy! Have fun!

@belidged 4 года назад

I’ve been working on a similar rig, I just need the last piece from Starizona. Nice work! 👍🏻

@m97429 4 года назад

I have a CEM120 Meade 12" F8 (2438mm) that I use with my Sbig STT3200me/ FW8G /Starchaser SC2 /A0-8a for hunting galaxies. Great setup, I think adding a A0 device at long focal lengths is a great help. Depending on your guide star these things can run at 4-12 Hz, in other words make corrections 4 to 12 times a second!

@AstroHoff 4 года назад

12:47 Weird looking NGC 281 (Pacman Nebula). 😜 Another quality video and perfect timing. Just been looking into a new scope for galaxies.

@FROGGS01 4 года назад

This is insane. I love it.

@DurkoppFordertechnic 4 года назад

I wish I had watched this a few years back, as a newby I went straight into using a celestron 8" HD. I found out quickly that everything had to be so precise. Right down to getting the weights in exactly the right place. The NEQ6 skywatcher mount wasn't accurate enough either. Conversion to belt drive on it helped my guiding headache. Lots of imaging sessions produced disappointing results, but getting results now when the weather allows in the UK.

@cags330 4 года назад

I made a similar error recently, Vince. I bought an 8" SCT for photography as much as imaging. Working through the headaches at the moment . . .

@sneakerset 4 года назад

@@cags330 I bought a C8 for $150. The seller was a homeless tweeker camped out in a park in No. Hollywood. The instrument was in wretched condition - it had survived a roof collapse (house fire). Fortunately, the rebuild was a success. I added a 2-speed focuser, a carrying handle, dual Losmandy rails, and a 6.3 reducer (Antares). It has quirks, but has served me well for both the lightside (solar/terrestrial)...and darkside (DSO/planetary).

@astronomybob 4 года назад

So many toys .... Great video Trevor !

@DennisCarmody 4 года назад

I’ve been using a C925 at f/10, f/6.3 w a reducer, and f/2.3 w Hyperstar. The challenge definitely goes up exponentially at higher focal lengths. I love that I can use the same telescope for f/30 planetary and massive nebula at f/2.3.

@Chris_LSZO Год назад

I use the C14 and yes it is very flexible. Hyperstar, f7 with reducer or the full focal length depends of what you want to do. I love this flexible concept very much, it's a 3 in 1 telescope.

@michalcaganek8287 4 года назад

Always been a fan sir, keep it going! 😊👍

@AstroBlender 4 года назад

I had my hat on backwards in some of my first few vids! I still do it, it’s still cool! :) Nice rig!

@vinceveltri7732 4 года назад

Trevor, I hope you fall madly in love with this SCT. With the Celestron CPC 1100 the size and weight were a very cautious concern - until I built an observatory and the scope is stationary. I'm looking forward to your experiments and reviews on this.

@AstroForumSpace 4 года назад

100K!!!! Congrats Trevor, you deserve it bigtime. I'm looking for a Smith Chretien as a somewhat more affordable way to image galaxies. Have fun with this, looking forward to seeing some excellent astropics. Also, I was thinking that binning could be useful when the pixel size is so small?

@TheWonkyAstronomer 4 года назад

I have the same scope (with Hyperstar) on a fork mount. Very happy with it indeed.

@danwray5626 4 года назад

Thank you for sharing this with us.

@moose64 4 года назад

I have the Edge HD 8". Been stored ever since I bought it. Hopefully you can get me excited to get mine out and use it.

@ernie5229 4 года назад

Amazing! I haven't done astrophotography since the film days. Sooo much has changed. We had a prime focus reflector camera. You had to load each frame of the film by hand inside a dark bag. Exposure was controlled by opening and closing the corrector cap. With such a short focal length you have to mount the film in a curved bracket to compensate for the curved depth of field. A good long evening would yield a few acceptable shots. But you didn't find that out until after you developed the film (by yoursef) then sent it out to be printed. Still, I wouldn't change the opportunity for anything!

@matthewhart4952 11 месяцев назад

The Celestron Disco was a nice touch 🤣 Great content as always!

@jamieamendolagine205 4 года назад

I've got an EdgeHD8, and am quite happy with it, but it is difficult to work with the F10 focal ratio. I do have a reducer that brings it down to F7 which is easier when imaging bigger targets. I've also been using an OAG for guiding. It can be a challenge to get a guide star sometimes, but it's my understanding that it is much better for SCT's with high F ratio. Here's some tips with using an SCT: Don't forget to tighten the mirror locks when ready to image, and don't forget to loosen them when done. That big plate of glass fogs up pretty easily, so you may need a heater. Get bobs knobs, or something similar so that you can collimate without sticking a pointy screw driver close to the glass.

@AVAstronomy 4 года назад

Awesome! Looking forward to galaxy season as well.

@randomname2159 4 года назад

when is the best time for galaxy observation in the northern hemisphere?

@AVAstronomy 4 года назад

Alexandru Ancuța February -April is pretty good

@monkeypants6764 4 года назад

Hey astro just wanted to know thanks to you, I just bought my second telescope, after you tought me how to use the all of the built in bells and whistles on the telescope. I purchased the celestron nexstar 130slt

@yellowlynx 4 года назад

I have similar approach. EQ6+FLT98, all rounded purpose. ED80/F6 or WO71 plus a iOptron CEM25 for more wide field C11 plus iOptron CEM60 like yours. They are all on my roof top. All I need to do is to hook up my computer, the power and put the OTA on the mount, of course the mounts are already fine tuned in balancing and polar alignment.

@FrankP83 4 года назад

Ohhhh FINALLY!I've got the C8...and is a BEAST! ^_^

@stevensiwinski8049 3 месяца назад

Love the HD 11 rave

@scottadams5858 4 года назад

Trevor, dude, sick ass scope man! I want you to know we are all jealous right now lmao. I am totally looking forward to the images you get with that, one on my wish list btw, exception I would do, dreaming here, pier mounted in a home observatory.

@axford696969 4 года назад

Can't wait to see your images with this rig Trevor....

@RnCforPS3 4 года назад

Almost 100k. Damn you really are making this hobby more mainstream.

@leonjones7120 4 года назад

This equipment is stunning. I did astronomy when I was younger, and saw what I could with a small refractor. Couldn't afford the equipment upgrades which would have kept my interest.

@libork5397 4 года назад

Very interesting , I started to follow your channel recently and it is quite inspirational .... Thank you ...

@piotrjakuc6357 4 года назад

And I thought that 1200mm is a long focal length! Great video, Trevor!

@movax20h 4 года назад

Nice and very versatile scope. Keep us posted. This mount is heavy. Good. You will need stability.

@tomthunem3444 4 года назад

Just stumbled onto your channel. Amazed you can take night-sky images from your driveway. Would've thought you had to find a dark sky location just as we traditional DSLR folks have to do to get good Milky Way images. Definitely makes it something to think about if I can do this from my house each night.

@PafMedic 4 года назад

Thats Just Beautiful,I Have The Celestron 8se..Was A Christmas Present,So Far..Im Enjoying It,But..Cant Wait Till Spring..Im a Fan..Subscribed

@PixelFighterKing 4 года назад

never let haters tell you what to do. they are just envious of your personal freedom. backwards hats squad represent. thank you for all of your efforts and information regarding astrophotograpy and gear reviews. you are very impressive.

@markcaplan 4 года назад

As an Englishman I would say a baseball cap should only be worn forwards and only when playing baseball. Absolutely love the videos by the way. Amazing work.

@edbaker6119 4 года назад

Thought about getting the Hyperstar for my old C11 till I seen the price! For $300 more I could get a new 8” RASA so that’s the route I’ll be going. I will be looking forward to seeing your results during Galaxy season, clear sky’s!

@ghenghiskhan39 4 года назад

Dude, you seriously have some awesome gear.👍👍👍

@ChrisSmith-lk2vq 4 года назад

Finally galaxies!! A) keep your call wherever it belongs ;-) B) i really liked this video! You are quite excited, aren't you? :D I really had a laugh at the end with your shadow play ;) great job, keep on!! Greetings Chris

@misterwizz5690 4 года назад

I'm pleased you mentioned the backward cap, no problem! Just get someone real strong to snap your head a full 180 degrees, hey presto the cap will now be facing the correct intended direction!

@cwminer8235 4 года назад

I'm excited about the Starizona night owl HD. It's supposed to bring the scope down to F/4 without having to buy an expensive hyperstar and without having to remove your secondary mirror. Should make the Edge great for wide field nebula stuff as well as long focal length planetary/lunar/galaxy stuff. Any chance you could do a review if/when the reducer officially comes out since you do more wide field stuff?

@radicalrenegade8528 4 года назад

cwminer 82 Good comment. I didn’t know about the night owl. Just looked it up. Seems good but has limitations. I’ll have to research it.

@cwminer8235 4 года назад

@@radicalrenegade8528 Yeah, I believe that the camera sensor has a limit of 16mm which from what I have read is basically the asi183. The guy on cloudy nights that is testing it seemed pretty impressed with the prototype unit and he said that the production units would have a 20% improvement, so I'm hoping for the best. If it does end up doing what it says, it kind of turns a regular non hyper starred Edge into a jack of all trades scope with a pretty nice apperature size, or at least it sounds that way. I was seriously considering getting an apo refractor for wide field stuff but may not have to now. Fingers crossed it works as advertised.

@radicalrenegade8528 4 года назад

@@cwminer8235 I thought I read somewhere on the description that it was not for Edge scopes? Maybe I'm wrong though. We'll see.

@cwminer8235 4 года назад

@@radicalrenegade8528 The ones available now are not available for Edge scopes. The HD version is rumored to be coming out Q1 2020 and it is specifically for the Edge.

@radicalrenegade8528 4 года назад

@@cwminer8235 Cool. Thanks for the info!!!

@ahok 4 года назад

Awesome video. Very interested in how you're going to guide this beast. I'm going back and forth between my Celestron OAG and a high focal length guide scope. Haven't decided which is better yet. (Was waiting for it but you never got there)

@barryallen5744 4 года назад

Can't wait for the results.

@marlonmc8080 4 года назад

Very interesting your new setup. Im learning too much with your videos. I have a star adventurer and only need a good lens for my DLSR. Maybe this year I buy one.

@Antiath 4 года назад

Yes, that's my jam ! I wondered if you'd build this kind of setup one day :p

@coreyrueckheim3881 4 года назад

I'm excited to see you working with this new telescope. I hope you get hooked on the mysteries of small targets, just like I did! Take NGC 810 for example... is the dark linear feature visible in the SDSS image really there? Can you capture it?

@ronaldwest2264 4 года назад

Thank you for that Trevor. Sadly, it will be a long time until I can afford such a beauty. I'm still tryin to make the most out of my Nextar 8 and I have an old Canon camera body that I still don't know how to use, so an 11 incher is out of the question for now. But I appreciate learning about this now. Thanks again.