no vid card? and how do you like that 3470 i just got it on sale for 15 off on new egg. i was going to get the 3450 but they are both 200 w/out promo stuffs. and the 3450 was 10 of while the 3470 was 15. ^_^. how well do you think this chip will handle starcraft 2 maxed out 4v4 with maxed armies? my athlon chokes to 15 to 5 in big battles. lol how do you think its going to do (obviously much better than my athlon ii x4 640) also this is my first intel build