I grew up in L.A. El Sereno North East L.A. i remember in the 70's my mother and father was worried about the 710 Freeway getting extended over our neighborhood. The residents have been fighting to keep the freeways out of el sereno for decades now. My father was offered a settlement for our 1930's home and declined and so did 90% of the residents. Still till this day, they are trying to extend the 710 long beach freeway through El Sereno/Alhambra to connect to Pasadena but with no success.
I'm the most anti -freeway guy out here. If it were up to me, we would have 2 freeways. The 5 and the 10. HOWEVER!!!!! we do have a million freeways and the fact that the 710 and the 110 don't directly connect to the 210 will always bother me. But I get it, it's El Sereno. We wouldn't want to move your multimillion 900sqft home.
@@lorenovergaauw The reason is buildings don’t really get torn down or changed in cities like Manhattan and Philadelphia... if you were someone 1925 and you went to NYC right now, you would pretty much know how to get around... Of course there are newer buildings, but most of the old ones are still there too... also the subways and roadways haven’t changed much...
Funny how the saying grass is greener on the other side of the tracks is so true. While this interests me because it's the history of where I grew up. The history of the east coast fascinates me
As a young man from the San Fernando valley, still loved taking the street car into Hollyweird. Pretty funny, it looked like the modern busses of the day (1960's) but rode on rails. Then, during the mid 60's or so, I actually drove my first car into Hollyweird and saw them paving over the rails....bygones of different time.
Yes, even this easterner knew the Pacific Electric was essentially a real estate development scheme. Build it and we can sell lots along the line. Moving people in mass numbers as in the big cities of the east was only a secondary consideration. When they got to the part about problems on the line and the lack of private money (the driver was drunk, cars interfered with the streetcars), I was tempted to add: and Harold Lloyd was hanging from a trolley pole :).
This is cool. KCET showed up on my feed today. I used to watch this channel and other UHF stations in the area when I was a teenager. Live far away now, but I subscribed. Once in a while you can go home, in small parts. LedHed Steven 🎶 🎸 🎹 🎸 🎶
As an urban planner and historian, this tale about the streetcar in Los Angeles is incredibly misleading and actually a bit scary. Please read "Fragmented Metropolis" for a way way better explanation - as it sure deserves it.
Actually, it's now becoming one of the finest. The problem is ridership and cultural divisiveness. The less wealthy among the cities population rides the Metro system. The more wealthy refuses to ride where the 'trash' rides (according to them, not all - but THEM) then touts the reason they wait in traffic in their nice cars - because they say the transit system sucks. I left the Manhattan Beach area in the mid 1990's and revisited in 2014. Decided to show my friend the Metro system, bought a day pass and went from Redondo Beach to Norwalk, back and transferred to the Long Beach line out to Long Beach, back to Los Angeles, then on to the North Hollywood line, transferred to the Orange Busway (very nice ride along my old stomping grounds as a kid, Chandler Blvd.). We then reversed out route back to downtown LA, back on to the Blue to the 105/110 station, then back on to the green line home. All in all, it took about 7 hours including stops at eateries and a downtown walk. He was impressed, and I as a 'build the freeways' kid was impressed even more. Today, with the addition of many more transit ways, WOW - L.A. is going first class modern transit. Hope I live long enough to see the MONORAIL system, preferably above ground, from Wilshire to the valley.... a dream I conjured up and drew maps of as a 10 year old valley boy.
@@foxbodyblues6709 Try taking into account decades of discriminatory lending practices and outright refusing to allow people to move into an area if they aren't white. you sound like a stupid bitch, fitting for your basic username.
"I am rich, I am powerful... I use Redwoods" sounds like a quote straight out of Redwood to bad be we cut down all those trees building a city, hope the people can appreciate we live in a time of endless possibilities
Nowadays Boyle Heights residents have unparalleled access to the freeway system to take them to downtown, the beach, where jobs are, etc. Most houses cost north of $800k.
A freeway metropolis ... Sounds lovely lmfao.... Can't believe people actually want to live here. It took me like an hour just to get to the local grocery store...can't believe I didn't hate it lol ..well I guess I did only stay there a few months ..so I guess I did hate it lol
Yeah, they should've built everything out of adobe brick. But then, you'd bitch about the ground being exploited and lament the hills being leveled or the holes having to be dug to make the bricks. Ever heard of replanting? Trees are a renewable crop. Remember that the next time you go to hug one.
I’ve been saying this for a while now that every hour is rush hour now. 10 years ago you knew what times to stay off the freeway in the morning for people going to work and between 2pm-8pm for people heading home. now at 12:30 in the afternoon TRAFFIC, 1:30am in the morning TRAFFIC. Now LA has too many people and too much crime.
Hmmm, sounds like Huntington took his conquest on a romantic date way out in the country, fooled around for awhile, got his, then told her to get her own ride home.
Is there any mention anywhere of the historical accuracy (or not) of the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" as it relates to the demise of mass transit and the spread of the automobile in LA?
As my research has helped me figure things out, the 110(Pasadena) freeway north of the i10 (San Bernardino) freeway is the area closest to the Roger Rabbit story. FYI the Red Car still operates at the Inland Empire Railroad Museum in Perris, California.
Redwood is still heavily used in California fyi. Most wood fencelines are redwood. Fresh redwood smells sooooo good! I hate how somtimes your wood is so fresh its still wet nd super piney smelly! Fresh cut from NorCal yummmmmhhhmmmm
Really depressing to see how much of LA was created at the destruction of the forest, and then after that at the destruction of the undesirables. I wish I had learned more about stuff like this in school rather than European history of centuries ago that has little bearing on us today.
I worked at least 8 hours a day everyday since I was 14 years old. I'm 70 now, and a year or two ago when my commute suddenly jumped from about 20 mins to over an hour one way, I said "screw it" and retired. Someday, sooner than later, there will be a formal scale of insanity whereby the mental health of entire civilizations will be universally judged on how long a commute people were willing to tolerate. Sanity will be inversely proportional to the length of commutes, and medical insurance providers will factor that into how much they are willing to reimburse for medical treatments. You tolerate a 1.5 hour commute, you get half the insurance a person who tolerates a 30 minute commute. Just watch. ;-)
Howard Harris blacks been in the city since the 1890s. They all lived in central avenue bro. Learn your history before spewing ignorant stuff. The only difference was that they were segregated. Every race back in LA lived in separated community.
@@thecraplordsell4575 I know my history... I’m saying before blacks became dominant in the metro part of the city and before the schools were integrated... yea I know central was like the Harlem renaissance of Los Angeles until Crenshaw started popping
Diversity usually creates conflict. It gets to the point to where none of us are on the same page, thus disruption occurs and this is all a part of human nature. Sad to say but its true.
@@Minecraftizawsom Yes, it does. I constantly segregate myself from all kinds of people. I have nothing to do with criminals, drug dealers/users, all types of riff-raff, etc. Basically, people with shitty values and no self-control.
RADIUM: diversity is way overrated. Assimilation is what unites a country, not this "celebration of diversity" horseshit. Diversity creates an "us" and "them" paradigm.
They talk about the construction of freeways as such a bad thing, but just imagine if they we're not there. The city would be in perpetual gridlock. Freeways are a necessary evil. Many of the traffic problems are because of early freeway design, as time goes on we learn more and more about how traffic moves and how to construct them so that traffic flows more efficiently. As time goes on we learn how to make the vehicles quieter and pollute less. There is no going back, freeways are a part of life now, get used to it.
A good case in point is the land gobbling parallel routes on either side of a freeway. That's pretty smart planning, I'd say despite the land gobble it takes to build them. The 210 from Arroyo Seco to the end of Pasadena is (key word>) relatively less crowded because of the parallel roadways, but still can get pretty clogged up. On the other end of that argument is the addition of travel lanes (and) carpool lanes which turned the San Diego through the Sepulveda pass from a nightmare to a wider nightmare. No relief after all that money spent, none at all. Our best bet is mass transit systems and 'smart car' technology. The smart car technology would cut traffic jams by upwards of 35% ... that is until the fuse blows. Incentives for more ride-sharing programs would also help, paid for by the corporations that hire more than xxx workers (pick a number). Lastly, ingress and egress of freeway traffic on surface roads can be somewhat reduced by divergent-diamond interchanges. Using modeling through a software game I have (Cities Skyline) I replaced 4 of my traffic clogged freeway to surface street standard diamond interchanges to divergent diamond interchanges ... the traffic crunches went away. Seeing them in real life (never saw one in real life, only on videos) indicated the DDI's DO reduce ingress and egress traffic jams considerably. L.A. is not going to see less people migrating there, it's time to do something fast.
That's probably not an accurate statement. EMINENT DOMAIN defined is the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation. The drivers of said eminent domain can very well be tainted with racism, preferential treatment, and worst of all, the lack of JUST compensation. It's all about the drivers.
Mauro Martinez , conquered, conquered is the word, the same thing natives of any land were doing to each other for eons before until yes, firearms and better weapons were used to conquer them. You’re free to prove that now, just get yourself some men, lock and load and see how far you get, there’s plenty of warlords near Yemen that need to become unemployed, You could make USA 2.0 if you conquer them. Stolen is what politicians, special interests, lobbyist and the world elite did to get where they are and we continue to let them.
I’m not familiar with the community of El Serena. Is it wealthy like South Pasadena or more like Lincoln Heights? I just know that I7 was stopped in it’s tracks at Valley Bl. I’m not sure if the current freeway, renamed 720, is better or worse than having nothing in that stretch.
Boy, talk about an anti-freeway bunch of schlock. Especially that Avila guy. No one ever considers the idea that there are just too many people for the system to be able to handle smoothly.
I don't see your point there Investor guy. Once the tide rolls in, it's hard to stop it. Build more freeways? Probably not an environmental or transportation solution. The tide keeps rolling in and we have to deal with it by using 'smart' technology, creating a NEW way of looking at urban planning.
What a bunch of BS reasons from shills. Get rid of the electric trains and bring on diesel busses, smog, traffic jams, drunk drivers a plenty and sleepy drivers. Bring on the DMV, CHP and Standard Oil...
It's ok they are bringing back metro what a mess! We need bigger better freeways. the progresive agenda is dead on arrival. No one is happy! Road diets less freeways bike paths and now congestion pricing a joke!.
Awww, sounds like somebody's sorry Moonbeam's not in office anymore to further fuck up the state. But take heart: we've gone from the frying pan into the fire...Moonbeam put us in the toilet, Newsom'll push the handle.
avila acts like the golden rule (he with the most gold, rules) shouldn't have applied back then. he acts like palms being greased and deals being made were foreign to that era. robber barons gonna rob, duh
I grew up watching KCET This series is awful! Whoever produced/edited this series... 1/2 way through each story I want to kill myself. Gravitas does not equal morbid. Tell a good story, not just solemn bullshit... Thanks for producing California's Rust.
@@ApartmentKing66 Yeah...and the right want's to remove environmental safeguards, let the banks run the country, and fix votes to keep them in office. How noble of them.
