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Burgess 1878 Military Carbines: .45-70 Before Winchester 

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Andrew Burgess is an underappreciated arms designer, and his Model 1878 (aka the Whitney-Burgess-Morse) had the potential to be a very serious competition to Winchester. It was chambered for the .45-70 Government cartridge, and unlike the Winchester 1876 Burgess’ design could handle to power of that round. However, a series of misjudgements led to production ending after less than two years. The first problem was unreliability of the lifter mechanism as originally produced. This was a primary cause of the rifle failing the 1878 military repeating rifle trials, but Whitneyville had finalized the production tooling without waiting to see the trial results. Thus the first thousand or so guns shipped to customers tended to have double feeds. In addition, it was discovered that UMC cartridges had very sensitive primers that would detonate in the magazine tube with enough regularity to be a serious problem. This was addressed by UMC offering a special loading for the Burgess, but this was done only after the problem gained some publicity.
The Burgess 1878 was offered as both a military carbine and a sporting rifle, and we have a pair of military carbines to show you today. One is a first model that loads from the top (extraordinarily rare) and the other is a third model with a bayonet lug (also extremely rare). The guns were initially offered in both top- and side-loading configurations, and the side-loading was so overwhelmingly preferred that virtually all the top-loaders were adapted to the side-loading pattern.
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@dobypilgrim6160
@dobypilgrim6160 4 года назад
I once owned the rifle version. For about six hours. I bought it at a gun show, set it on my table, planning to take it home and shoot it. I'd paid $1500 for that rifle, and a few hours later a collector came up and offered $4500 for it. He took it home, lol. That was a really front heavy rifle. But very cool. Should have kept it, but I was young and about broke.
@ColeckZz
@ColeckZz 4 года назад
If you have 1500 dollars to spend on a hobby you're not broke or you have a gaping hole in your hand haha
@davidreeding9176
@davidreeding9176 4 года назад
Dude was broke because he spent the 1,500$ lmao
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 4 года назад
@@ColeckZz I know Right!!
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 4 года назад
Jasper D it's called having poor financial management
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
4 X your money in a few hours? I would have sold it, too.
@splunky6314
@splunky6314 4 года назад
Isn't this the same madlad who created that folding shotgun? Gotta respect this guy.
@peppermillers8361
@peppermillers8361 4 года назад
Indeed
@lt_darkseekerantique3911
@lt_darkseekerantique3911 3 года назад
Yes
@InexorWoW
@InexorWoW 4 года назад
I love how 45.70 government is still a powerhouse of a round today.
@vamsterr
@vamsterr 4 года назад
Been upgraded by Smokeless powder too, Modern 45-70 uses way less powder for mimicking the performance of Black powder rounds(you can by Ballisticly similar modern 45-70 in smokeless to run in old black powder guns without blowing them up) but modern 45-70, especially the Magnum and +P apparently can see ballistics that are triple or more that of the original rounds ahaha (I just did some quick forum reading for this, Not got any real specific Data to share but it's around. google had a ton of hits comparing Black powder to Smokeless 45-70)
@InexorWoW
@InexorWoW 4 года назад
@@vamsterr I imagine the case capacity can give a bit of room if you needed to use some thicker brass or less and slower burning powder to keep old black powder guns cleaner. I've considered picking up a modern 45.70 lever gun. Its a contest between 357 mag to match my revolver for woods/hunting purpose or just go big and jump on the thumping 45.70.
@vamsterr
@vamsterr 4 года назад
@@InexorWoW wish I could offer advice but I have a spectator interest in firearms lol Australian. Not even sure you could get something in 45-70 here without a collectors permit haha
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 4 года назад
Now to get a big ass bayonet for my GBL!
@SomeGunNerd
@SomeGunNerd 4 года назад
@@vamsterr I've heard lever-action are allowed. Maybe you could get a Henry lever-action in 45-70? I do find it interesting that Australia, a continent where almost every bit of wildlife around wants to kill you, would ban guns. It seems like a bad idea.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 4 года назад
One of those "this close to being famous" guns.
@knate44
@knate44 4 года назад
For some reason, my mind instantly went to "Burgess does what Winchesdont". I hate my life.
@peppermillers8361
@peppermillers8361 4 года назад
Nice
@asdasd-ty9se
@asdasd-ty9se 3 года назад
One of us, one of us
@theemptyqueuenull9135
@theemptyqueuenull9135 2 года назад
Brilliant
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 4 года назад
"I have this short rifle, but it's not _long_ enough..." "Why not put an entire sword on the end?"
@jochenreichl796
@jochenreichl796 4 года назад
That what they also did with the 1897 Shotguns. Very impressive.
@BrassCatcher
@BrassCatcher 4 года назад
Modern problems require modern solutions!
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 4 года назад
might have come in Handy at Little Big Horn....
@gwtpictgwtpict4214
@gwtpictgwtpict4214 4 года назад
@@BrassCatcher Not so modern a problem by 1878, around 1800 the British Army introduced the Baker rifle at the same time as they formed 'The Experimental Rifle Corps". The Baker rifle was a lot shorter than the standard Brown Bess musket, and riflemen were required to perform standard infantry tasks when not skirmishing so needed a long bayonet so their weapons would match the length of standard infantry ones when formed in square etc. Result was a 23 1/2 inch bayonet with a wrap around hand guard. Generally referred to as a sword bayonet. Result of this is that to this day the descendants of the original rifle regiments are not ordered to fix bayonets, they are ordered to fix swords.
@hybrid_grizzly
@hybrid_grizzly 4 года назад
Jochen Reichl The “trench guns” didn’t have a unique bayonet, they used the bayonet from the Pattern 14 Enfield/M1917 rifle which was quite long since it was for a short rifle (by the standards of the day)
@alltat
@alltat 4 года назад
They should have marketed the exploding magazines as a feature that offsets the loading issues: if the gun jams you still have a secondary "barrel".
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 4 года назад
Lever action by Tediadore?
@generalantilles2586
@generalantilles2586 4 года назад
@@TheWolfsnack Tediore. That's how you reload. Throw it at their faces.
@gagagaga71
@gagagaga71 4 года назад
Name it a “surprise mechanic of operation”
@highlandoutsider
@highlandoutsider 4 года назад
Designed with a unique powder actuated jam clearance system lol
@Suckmyjagon
@Suckmyjagon 4 года назад
Jam clearing !!!
@hayessingerrunning4370
@hayessingerrunning4370 4 года назад
This guy definitely has the most interesting career to talk about at a party.
@joshsamuelson1793
@joshsamuelson1793 4 года назад
There is a reason he is called Gun Jesus.
@tylorfox783
@tylorfox783 4 года назад
If you're ever in southern Utah, I have an 1881 Marlin-Burgess you can check out. In the time between posting this and now, I also have picked up a Colt Lightning 1877, and a Winchester 1907. So you’re always welcome down home.
@solquint2390
@solquint2390 4 года назад
.45-70, The only government you can trust.
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 4 года назад
That"d be great on a tee shirt.
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 4 года назад
I trust .30 Caliber Government, now known as 30-40 Krag!
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
I trust .30-06 government, too.
@nufumanchu
@nufumanchu 4 года назад
You win the Internet for today. Bravo!
@austinchasteeny
@austinchasteeny 4 года назад
Fact
@Garrumx
@Garrumx 4 года назад
When demonstrating the lever on the first gun, it looks like it's as smooth as any Swiss gun ever made. Possibly optical illusion, but man it looked smooth.
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 года назад
They are very smooth .
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 4 года назад
I expect the top loader was cheaper? Was there perhaps even a license fee paid for using the King's loading gate?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 года назад
it ain't an 1800s carbine if your knife is shorter than the gun it goes on
@JvS1711
@JvS1711 4 года назад
That bayonet makes me feel like buying some goldfish.
@bigredwolf6
@bigredwolf6 4 года назад
Joost van Schijndel The snack that fires back
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
Did I miss something, I swear there was writing on the stock of one of these rifles. Did anyone else notice that?
@Erdanya
@Erdanya 4 года назад
You're right, 1:00 in - It looks like 'Burgess Arm' and something else underneath.. but between the angle, glare and old cursive, I can't make out what that said. My mind wants to read the last part as 'Apex' but that could just be me..
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
@@Erdanya I'm honestly surprised Ian didn't mention it and show it to the camera. Kinda odd.
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
I am going to guess it was added later by an owner and had nothing to do with the history of the gun, so Ian didn't mention it.
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
@@MrYfrank14 i dunno, it's part of the gun and therefore its history.
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
@@Hawk1966 - not if the last owner's 2 year old did it yesterday. Or if the first owner wrote his name on it.
@Yuzral
@Yuzral 4 года назад
You appear to have a bayonet that is fitted with a gun.
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
carbine is a back up for the bayonet.
@Alinyan3
@Alinyan3 4 года назад
Those guns are just, beautiful.
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
The way the action opens is so very organic. It's like a living thing.
@MaBoomstick
@MaBoomstick 4 года назад
Hawk 1966 what
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
@@MaBoomstick what what? The gun moves more like a living creature than a mechanical device. Weren't you watching?
@duster0669
@duster0669 3 года назад
The toggle link design is like the drag link on a retractable landing gear. The drag link and toggle link design are "over center" mechanisms. They lock the linkage in one direction and prevent movement of the mechanism until an actuator drives the over center device to the retract position. Or they lock the breach closed until the lever is racked. Over center device.
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 4 года назад
The action opens so... elegant.
@lessharratt8719
@lessharratt8719 4 года назад
So it jams and then explodes. Wow, I want one.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 4 года назад
“Problems with Remington UMC ammo.” Some things never change.
@AltrosNightLeaf
@AltrosNightLeaf 4 года назад
I would absolutely love hearing Ian's thoughts on various fantasy firearms. Like the Bolters from 40K, or the MA5 from the Halo series
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 года назад
Thank you , Ian .
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 Год назад
I worked in the Conservation Dept, NMAI, Smithsonian. They had a 3rd Model Burgess rifle attributed to Chief Joseph, Nez Pierce.
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 4 года назад
Man, there's something just so appealing about these older firearms. The wooden furniture, the subtle shine of the bare metal, the mechanics are fascinating also. I know modern weapons are superior in terms of function and quality, but I just LOVE these clever actions, bolt actions...early firearms design is just so rad.
@jjforcebreaker
@jjforcebreaker 4 года назад
oh man that pretty bayonet...
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад
*Heavy Japanese Breathing* Veri Honorabu Raifu.
@291DMR
@291DMR 4 года назад
Wish they made reproduction rifles of these
@dredlord47
@dredlord47 4 года назад
I'd still rather have an M1886 Winchester Repeating Musket, but one that has a Yatagan saber bayonet instead of the spike bayonet that they originally came with.
@donpaterson4476
@donpaterson4476 4 года назад
Looks better than a Henry
@ionchaos5247
@ionchaos5247 4 года назад
I would love to own one that can shoot modern 45-70
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 года назад
@@FranzAntonMesmer There is a modern replica of the Colt Burgess , but it's designed for pistol cartridges such as .44-40. It's not quite the same as the Burgess or the Kennedy
@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236
@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236 4 года назад
IAN do you have "many" lever actions in your collection? Do you have a favorite?
@Riazor1370
@Riazor1370 4 года назад
The previous Hall carbines also had a bayonets. That one is retractable or ramrod bayonet.
@RyeOnHam
@RyeOnHam 4 года назад
That's patent 15,995 for George W. Morse. Burgess' patents are 134,589 for the 1873 patent and 168,966 for the 1875 patent. Interestingly, Burgess also had another patent issued on the same day as the 1875 patent that looks to be for a trap-door design where the door swings rearward and cocks the hammer while it moves back. That's patent 168,829
@DuaneThomas1963
@DuaneThomas1963 3 года назад
I kept waiting for the promised story of the personality conflicts between Burgess and Whitney, and how that affected the rifle's fortunes. Sadly, it never showed up. :(
@toomanyuserids
@toomanyuserids 4 года назад
Social Distancing Bayonet.
@ANonymous-bh1un
@ANonymous-bh1un 4 года назад
You had me at "Burgess". You said that the gun handled very well, but the lever action looked kind of clunky while you were opening and closing it. If it had a proper hand-loop on the lever, how smooth would it be to work compared to the 1873?
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 года назад
These have a very long lever throw and with the serpentine lever can be a strain on your fingers depending on how you hold it. They did away with the serpentine lever early in the Kennedy series.
@monkeyship74401
@monkeyship74401 4 года назад
There are days that I wish I had the money to collect some of these. Ian just keeps taunting me with rare and unique firearms. Thank you!
@lukejolley8354
@lukejolley8354 4 года назад
This is the most interesting forgotten video in a while!
@Skenderbeuismyhero
@Skenderbeuismyhero 4 года назад
I've never heard Burgess pronounced that way, my family has always stressed the first syllable.
@alanfhall6450
@alanfhall6450 4 года назад
I don't know if its an 'Americanism' but one of my (British) colleagues also suffered his name being pronounced like that by our NYC office ...
@winfieldjohnson125
@winfieldjohnson125 4 года назад
@@alanfhall6450 Maybe Ian is Canadian?
@warshipsatin8764
@warshipsatin8764 3 года назад
@@alanfhall6450 the same name can be pronounced differently depending on the family. it doesnt really matter though, its such a minor thing
@JRock3091
@JRock3091 4 года назад
Flannel Daddy & Gun Jesus in the same hour...... oh yeah
@alfulton5946
@alfulton5946 3 года назад
This guy is just awesome. He invented some awesome guns
@tangero3462
@tangero3462 4 года назад
Watching that lever retract out was nothing short of a clown act and I can't stop chuckling
@andrewbear1057
@andrewbear1057 4 года назад
What does the carving on the stock (at 1:02 ) say? Burgess ... something?
@brucerobert227
@brucerobert227 4 года назад
"Winchester is my bitch - Burgess"
@williamphelps5047
@williamphelps5047 4 года назад
is it just me or did the bayonet installation sound like a bolt closing on an ar15
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 4 года назад
Excellent revue.
@danielmccoy8875
@danielmccoy8875 3 года назад
What a beautiful set of rifles,in 45/70 to boot
@hamishfeltham3224
@hamishfeltham3224 4 года назад
Hey Ian you should look into the RMB93 shotgun. It's a wierd russian pump action shotgun that feeds from the top like a Neostead. Just thought it would be something you could be interested in
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 Год назад
Awesome thanks
@adonoghuea02
@adonoghuea02 4 года назад
Karl going to pick one of these up?
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren 4 года назад
That's what I was wondering.
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 4 года назад
I wish!
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 4 года назад
Ouch.. "Estimated Price: $6,500.00 - $9,500.00".
@adonoghuea02
@adonoghuea02 4 года назад
@@InrangeTv I mean, if I could afford it... I'd buy it for myself, that looks like a really interesting lever action, sorry Karl...
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren 4 года назад
@@InrangeTv So between a 76 or one of these, which would you have gone with in a combat scenario?
@finnmcool2
@finnmcool2 3 года назад
Blowing fingers off of your customers isn't something a gun manufacturer is going to survive.
@alexdemoya2119
@alexdemoya2119 4 года назад
Reminds me of the mad dash to get militaries across the world a semiautomatic rifle in the early 20th century.
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 года назад
If you want a comprehensive study of the Burgess lever action legacy, find a copy of Lever Action Magazine Rifles by Maxwell. Not easy to find and not cheap , but a gold mine of information. Another good reference and probably easier to find is a book recently published by Dale Olsen : "The Burgess Long Range Repeating Rifle, Model 1878"
@tberkoff
@tberkoff 4 года назад
I always pronounced it "BER-jis."
@deadflowers7017
@deadflowers7017 4 года назад
Well stop it.
@canlungdoc
@canlungdoc 4 года назад
So did I (in general, not for this guy), and I am married to a Burgess.
@Gpower441
@Gpower441 4 года назад
It's kind of fun nearly all American celebrity or inventor have some involvement in firearms.
@redram5150
@redram5150 4 года назад
*immediately searches history between Whitney and Burgess
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 4 года назад
Very Cool carbine , just wish that they still made them now. I would definitely buy one !!!!!!!
@codien-a2217
@codien-a2217 3 года назад
i own one of each burgess gun i got them from passing them down in the family and my lastnames burgess
@amirazhar8377
@amirazhar8377 4 года назад
A repeating Gun then put a long ass saber... Can't get any better than dat
@chriszenier826
@chriszenier826 4 года назад
Ian, what was written on the stock?
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 4 года назад
Anyone else get so engrossed in the videos that you forget to hit the thumbs up? I try to remember and hit it before I start the video but sometimes I forget. RU-vid needs an auto thumbs up option. It seems rushing a gun to market before it is ready is the one constant in the firearm industry. A great idea that almost works is not a great product. Test, retest and test again. So many things have gone wrong moving from the prototype to mass production. You would have thought Whitney of all people would have understood that.
@ijduadfs3690
@ijduadfs3690 4 года назад
You kinda left us hanging with the Mors story. Did he won the lawsuit?
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
I would have expected the government to say the patent was seized as an act of war. now get lost.
@danielburgess7785
@danielburgess7785 4 года назад
Bur' jes. First syllable gets the emphasis.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 4 года назад
very cool
@containsnosmashmouth1849
@containsnosmashmouth1849 Месяц назад
Photography and firearms? Two different kinds of point-and-shoot, but similar all the same.
@tremendousmoss
@tremendousmoss 3 года назад
you didn't mention the trap door on the buttstock? was that a later or earlier addition? Mine doesn't have a rear sight like that... it's more of a spring/low/flush rear sight. I'm assuming I've got a civilian "sporting" version
@556bc
@556bc 4 года назад
So Remington UMC was just as bad in 19th century as it is in the 21st.
@renegadenaffy
@renegadenaffy 4 года назад
Hey Ian, in one of your previous videos you implied that using match heads instead of black powder was a really bad idea, well that got in interested and I came across a video on ammo channel where he used match head in a 38 special. Could you do a video on this topic ??? Please keep up the fantastic work
@boymahina123
@boymahina123 4 года назад
Afaik match heads have some potassium chlorate which becomes corrosive when burned
@replicators
@replicators 4 года назад
He mentioned that in the Confiscated Homemade Poachers' Guns from Zimbabwe video at about 1:20-1:33. He describes it as "an easy way to blow up a firearm." No explanation as to why.
@harrisoncasey6704
@harrisoncasey6704 4 года назад
I love this guy
@LifeisGood762
@LifeisGood762 4 года назад
Seems to be a case of the customer not always being right. Should have stuck to the top loader.
@dylanhayden8825
@dylanhayden8825 4 года назад
Hmm, people only wanted the side loading version? Henry are you listening???
@Zretgul_timerunner
@Zretgul_timerunner 4 года назад
So its a sword you buy with an extra gun attached.
@MrYfrank14
@MrYfrank14 4 года назад
that bayonet on the carbine has to be the most ridiculous thing I ever saw and it must be awkward to carry and shoot the carbine. but, I would still love to have it. a spear wth a carbine back up.
@markreeter6227
@markreeter6227 4 года назад
Stabbing at enemy on foot from horseback requires a longer bayonet. Cavalry typically did not fix bayonets until actually charging into melee where rifle was just used as spear. Revolver was used instead as melee firearm.
@kenny344
@kenny344 4 года назад
What's the most expensive gun Ian has handled?
@offdeadeye88
@offdeadeye88 4 года назад
Fg42? The Kings lorezini? Perhaps the confederate sniper?
@justinmoe3171
@justinmoe3171 Год назад
@@offdeadeye88I’d say Colt Walker
@deadsweetheart1
@deadsweetheart1 4 года назад
Question was it actually in 45/70 or 45/70 carbine which actually had same case but only 60 grains of powder
@colemanmoore9871
@colemanmoore9871 4 года назад
@inRangeTV I think Karl needs these.
@rogerwennstrom6677
@rogerwennstrom6677 4 года назад
I had the same though! Would love to see him run a match with one of theee with the bayonet :)
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 4 года назад
@@rogerwennstrom6677 That would be really cool.
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 4 года назад
Ouch.. "Estimated Price: $6,500.00 - $9,500.00"
@rogerwennstrom6677
@rogerwennstrom6677 4 года назад
@@InrangeTv Yeah, the price of rarity I guess :( Neat gun though!
@colemanmoore9871
@colemanmoore9871 4 года назад
@@InrangeTv And that price starts to lean higher after Ian drops a video for it! But it would be fun to see a comparison between this and other military lever actions. The lever arm holding the firing pin is interesting. Some unusual geometry. Maybe the future owner will take a trip out to AZ for you...
@JustTriggy
@JustTriggy 4 года назад
Does He (Ian McMullen) have an FFL?? If so what type, because he seems to have weapons shipped straight to him?
@PajamaPantsStudios
@PajamaPantsStudios Год назад
Shocked something neat like this didn’t make it into red dead.
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 4 года назад
Where did he the idea the cavalry needed bayonets on top of swords? Did he think we needed lancers?
@clothar23
@clothar23 4 года назад
Military and Logic don't mate.
@benstoyles1297
@benstoyles1297 4 года назад
I think this isn't a failure of design, but a failure of marketing. Had they reworked some non-critical elements of the design for the third version (beavertail or schabel foreend, pistol grip stock, loop cocking lever, different machining on the side plates e.g. guide rails for new cartridges) they could have marketed a "new" rifle and honoured a claim where they replaced any destroyed rifle of the old model sent to them with the new one sent back. There would only be so many genuinely destroyed rifles which hadn't been thrown away, and evryone else woud have had to shoot out their own rifles and then stump the cost of shipping the destroyed rifle. Which wouldn't have been a small price in 1870 whatever when you're in the west.
@DamnedSilly
@DamnedSilly 3 года назад
I've heard people give it a hard 'g', like in burger, but I've never heard anyone put the accent on the second syllable, like it was French or something. BUR-jes. It's not like it's rare... It's like hearing some one say win-CHES-ter.
@scottydouglass1892
@scottydouglass1892 4 года назад
How about the marlin .45-70 rifles?
@alancrews2066
@alancrews2066 4 года назад
How is a saddle ring used?
@samhansen9771
@samhansen9771 4 года назад
Well, it was a carbine, therefore used by mounted troops.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
It's the attachment point for the single point sling used by cavalry when dismounted.
@blackops555
@blackops555 4 года назад
Hmm...good gun, had a few faults but waylayed by bad ammo. Where have I heard that before?
@philllax1719
@philllax1719 4 года назад
comming back from a bad repuation is impossible. yahoos still think sigs arent dropsafe
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
The Sig P365 came back from a bad rep.
@paullytle1904
@paullytle1904 4 года назад
And that m16s are jam-o-matics
@tremendousmoss
@tremendousmoss 3 года назад
I've got a G.W. Morse serial 905 but it's in bad condition... pitting on outside of barrel and magazine tube and broken stock. markings are readable though! action is fully functional and barrel seems to be okay. been rubbing oil into it off and on over the years but has stopped showing signs of improvement. Wondering what I should do with it. Anything would help thanks @forgottenweapons
@knate44
@knate44 4 года назад
Does anyone know if Whitneyville armory did something similar with the polishing of their own proofmarks on their other guns? I have a Whitney 32RF pistol that has the markings so fair I need a hand lens to clearly see it.
@Vincent-S
@Vincent-S 2 года назад
A good rifle killed by folks counting their chickens before they hatched. Darn shame, it looks so smooth and the lever opening like that looks sick
@ther6sshieldmain937
@ther6sshieldmain937 4 года назад
That’s legit, I wanna see some lever *actions* in *action*.. pun intended
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 4 года назад
A great idea, poorly implemented, can fail much harder than a bad idea with good backing.
@RIlianP
@RIlianP 4 года назад
Tsk tsk tsk bad customer support
@TheMandalp
@TheMandalp 4 года назад
hey ian can i order you book to germany ? i want to buy it but i'm not sure if i can order it from germany ?
@jburgess6576
@jburgess6576 4 года назад
I believe that the emphasis should be on the first syllable in Burgess.
@mariodragoja1318
@mariodragoja1318 4 года назад
Can you rewiev Croatian APS-95 assault rifle?
@chiefduu6657
@chiefduu6657 4 года назад
Is the Evan's repeater from red dead 2 based off this weapon?
@TheMandalp
@TheMandalp 4 года назад
no there is a evens repeater google it was another repeater
@Dave-tw9ib
@Dave-tw9ib 4 года назад
what is a saddle ring ?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
That's the attachment point for a single point sling, and it's unique to cavalry guns.
@johnpauljones8992
@johnpauljones8992 4 года назад
Martini-Henry is my favorite
@RockIslandAuctionCompany
@RockIslandAuctionCompany 4 года назад
There's a reason all those target shooters used them for so long.
@kiwi_comanche
@kiwi_comanche 4 года назад
@@RockIslandAuctionCompany Just out of curiosity, what would that 1st pattern Burgess go for at auction roughly? With it being as rare as it is I'd imagine it'll fetch a pretty penny!!
@RockIslandAuctionCompany
@RockIslandAuctionCompany 4 года назад
@@kiwi_comanche Our estimate is $5,500 - $8,500 for the 1st Model and $6,500 - $9,500 for the 3rd Model. Neither is the most expensive Burgess model in the auction. :)
@lt_darkseekerantique3911
@lt_darkseekerantique3911 3 года назад
Me, a BF1 scout main: wait a second, why does this look like the Russian 1895???
@diptastik5651
@diptastik5651 4 года назад
Shame , it looks a really nice gun .
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 4 года назад
Where'stge MARLIN! lever action rifles? Pretty please.....
@afriendyouhadonce
@afriendyouhadonce 3 года назад
I'm drunk af. My fiance is being an Assam and I. Don't unbeknownst deal l because I don't like her drinking (5 out of 7 day) . I dotn like her drinking so much . I'm. Sorry. I just lost the engineering anxd good visd
@electrichellion5946
@electrichellion5946 4 года назад
1 minute posted 186 views.
@1891shooter
@1891shooter 4 года назад
@sahyadubowik6808
@sahyadubowik6808 4 года назад
ww1: no ? ww2: no ?
@beardoggin8963
@beardoggin8963 4 года назад
Sahya Dubowik huh?
@beardoggin8963
@beardoggin8963 4 года назад
AliasSLH other than the 1895 in 7.62x54R
@bills6093
@bills6093 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nL9JKassTD4.html
@bills6093
@bills6093 4 года назад
@AliasSLH I don't recall arguing with you about that.
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