I live in Queensland where it's never cold. I take my briquettes camping & they do a super job for cooking. I made this comment due to some people banging on about how they're pointless when compared to wood. Not all of us need to keep a house warm or require a campfire to burn all night.
I use sawdust mixed with pulverized tree bark melted candle Wax is perfect.stuff the center rolls of toilet rolls, paper towels, it's easy and works great 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I think the idea is to burn slower and longer. If they burn fast and hot.. is not a good randament in my point of view. Combine your mixture with some sunflower husks dust..it contain a bit of oil in them even if they are dry.. it will kepp the burning longer.
This looks like a sequel to your video from 6 months ago on making the bricks. Good job! I am thinking of making a smaller press, but small diameter for use in a rocket stove. Hello from Florida USA!
@@jacobhall979 It is the fact that often times the homeowner does not know about it until the fire has impinged on the pipe/flue/chimney and is hot enough to start the surrounding building. They generally happen at night and usually there are occupants in the dwelling. Lastly, since they generally happen in cold weather the home is now unusable until repairs are made (if they can be)...
It would only take about 10,000 blocks per winter to make heat for your home. I better start signing up for random stuff so I can collect the ensuing junk mail for my paper stockpile !!
I mainly burn wood ...its the ensuing pile of cardboard and junk mail I wanted to find a use for rather than just trailing off to the rubbish dump with it
They do the hole for purpose. Some stoves or chimneys does not provide enough air. Of course in all other cases more dense briquette will have better characteristics over those with holes. But cylindric is not an option IMHO cause you have to handle them while drying. Square shapes is more practical for use. That's why I make cubic briquettes: i.ibb.co/gmfbC6f/IMG-20190627-190704.jpg
Hi could you please compare burning the paper briquettes v/s burning wood in terms of time it takes to burn off roughly the same volume of each? Would the paper briquettes be more economical? Great video and great molder press build as well!
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi is there a function of a fireplace that scrubs the smoke out of the air? If so, you are correct I don't know what it is. What I have as a fireplace just lets the smoke outside to be immediately cooled and the chemicals go everywhere, least of which is up. On my planet the gravity pulls down the dense and potentially dangerous heavy metal vapors. Also, I don't live my life nor does my community inside in a way that is meaningful to breath only the gasses that are born inside.
@@djdickey Well….yes…actually there is. Surprise! They are called Wood gasification boilers and I have one. There are two burn chambers. The wood is burned in the upper chamber and then charcoal, ashes, and smoke are re-heated up to 2300 degrees in the bottom chamber. That temperature gasifies everything in the bottom chamber. There is no smoke emitted from the chimney, and very little ash. You’re welcome. 😁
If you clean your flue more often and use your ash for other things. then this will do just fine. I have seen sap creosote and dry creosote. paper burns more hot when applied like this. Because if it was just loose it would not burn as hot. leaving a more sap style creosote. sap style creosote is bad... I had a friend that actually soaked his rolled newspapers in kerosene not to make it more flammable, but to dry out the paper logs more quickly. Also if there was any water it would separate the water from the paper and also dry more quickly. He done his work outside do to the flammable and it rained often. As people are going to be going more green, this is a good in between tell you can go green. I would look to pellitizing your paper instead and forgo doing any flammables. go pellet stove and think green. solar water wells and such to maintain house warmth.
@@spiritwings4592 Then he got the wrong stove. There are different size pellet stoves. For the area they are heating, not taking into effect how airy the building is. They simply charge more for the ones that work well. Also ventilation and moving air around the house needs changeing a bit. My garage has one in it. takes a hole day for it to get the core heat the garage but once the core temp is up. it keeps it nice and toasty. the idea of the pellet stove is to be able to deal with it in a more physical affordable way. a bag of pellets is lighter than logs, also its cleaner and easier to store near the fire. my point is that there is always going to be pros and cons. if you want a outdoor fire, the pellet stove may not be the choice for you, unless its a pellet rocket stove of course....
@@snowcatman well if it takes a whole day to heat the core .Than you got the wrong stove!! He knows more about wood stoves and pellet stoves than you could dream about. They are cold & do not heat like a wood burner does. I didn't ask to be talked to like an idiot. I'm not stupid & I know alot about wood stoves and pellet stoves. In my opinion the wood burning stoves heat warmer and far better. Let alone the cost of the pellets . And just to let you know he's certified in heating and air as well as plumbing. So I'm sure he knows more than you do about this topic. Since it's a family business and they've been in business for over 50yrs. Good day and MERRY Christmas AND HAPPY NEW
Probably best not to use a sealed container, you need to vent the woodgas or paper gas but yes, pretty much anything organic will char, from banana skins to my toast.
@@coolcoolercoolest212 As a rule of thumb any dry timber or timber product contains the same 20mj per kg. While anything organic you char loses 2/3 of it's weight and half of it's energy. So if you char paper you will create something more energy dense but at a total energy reduction if that makes sense?
Going to make my press soon based off of yours. I wondered when making the cardboard / sawdust mix the cardboard you use do you remove all cello tape first? I’m guessing so to get a more consistent mix and so you don’t burn the plastic. But I wanted to check. Once again thanks for sharing this. Quite excited to build the press and see what I get
Правда! Но поливать их не обязательно. Если вы продавливаете щепу через сужающуюся трубку, трение создает достаточную температуру, чтобы щепа соединилась и образовала брикеты.
More air is a stronger burning flame. Physics. But making holes means less dense and weight briquette. This in turn means more work to make enough briquettes. Logic. I prefer and make square shaped briquettes.
@@TotallyChilled bricks would have burnt even faster if they would have been stacked with space for air movement. Either way its a free fire on a cold day.
5 bricks vs 3 round is hardly fair should've thrown in the other 2 round when you had space with them. Just curious about how much material goes into making each type.
That's the right idea, truly look at it from an engineering perspective. What's the burn time for the amount of X material as a brick, vs X material as a tube? Compare the amounts needed to make each, and look at the burn time of a single unit of each. 👍
@@dferver This, conversely, is a better logistical comparison. How much energy is packed into a cubic area? The bricks, having lower surface area, allows for a longer burn. As you stack and pack, the surface area is reduced further. If that is what you are after, the bricks are the way to go!
he is using cardboard from packages and sawdust from his shop. better than tossing it into the dumpster or sending to the recycling center to make a mess. Plus it is free and puts in a little of his time to make them for free fuel
It's too loud for his volume of voice, it leaves the high pitches in a range that is going to more commonly bother the observer. I found myself feeling annoyed by it initially when I set the volume to hear the youtuber, though it was fine once I realized he wouldn't be commenting anymore and turned it down.
Holy Cow ...i think you have just come up with my next video ... Thanks man ... if it gets 20 million views i'll take you for a spin in my new Lamborghini 😊
@@Farlig69 Ahh perhaps. Ash does have a lot of uses though, so I personally wouldn't see that as a bad thing, aside from more cleaning (ash dumping/chimney sweeping).
@@assaultflamingo2.068 Decent logs/Briquettes will produce almost no ash. I wouldn't dream of inhaling the fumes from the cardboard briquettes every night, not to mention the particles in the air...
@@felixbarlow1864 I concur. Hmm I guess that would in part depend on your country, here in Australia we have strict laws as to what chemicals can go into our domestic paper and cardboard, even the dyes are non toxic. I also use a rocket mass heater for an external room, with the high temperatures they produce, the combustion process of the exhaust gasses continues up the flue, making for a much 'cleaner' fire as far as emissions go.
Your tubular briquettes would make excellent solid fuel for a a rocket stove mass heater or a rocket cooking stove. The hole through the centre could be part of the air supply to the fire. You've given me some good ideas to work on!
One thing to keep in mind if you burn a lot of those cardboard briquettes is that you might have your chimney cleaned more often. Cardboard will release more tar when burned so the risk of a chimney fire is higher
this is what they tell everyone, but yet they manufacture and promote paper sawdust logs as eco fire logs and charge a premium yet no warning on the instructions stating an additional risk of chimney fires, the risk of a chimney fire is many times more likely from using fossil fuel coal than, cardboard/paper/sawdust/wood shavings or plain just not having the flu cleaned for many years. I grew up in the 60's and coal fired chimneys fires were daily events. I haven't seen a chimney fire in at least 25 years ???????? that's hype.
Bricks outlasted cylinders cause they were stacked but honestly if you take in only bottom layers, I'd say it was an even burn btw the two. Cool seeing that golden glow within the cylinders
Great comparison video! Finally. The bricks were wetter and softer than the tubes when manufactured but the hole in the middle of the tubes accelerated the burn substantially. Again great video ... Cheers
I have a restaurant and a cement mixer, i hope this works for me, because all the cardboard i get is crazy, it'd be nice to heat for free, but weeks to dry, i should have started sooner.
Given that paper is generally made from soft wood it will always burn fast and bot as hot as hard wood. I love the idea but something to consider when doing this.
I discovered you video about Amazon vs home made yesterday so seeing this today was so well timed. Really appreciate the information and knowledge sharing.
ooohn yes ... I'm slowly burning with embarrassment after all the bumming up my press got and how proud i was of it .....then the bloody bricks burnt the SAME!!!!
I watched your video on making the 2 types of cardboard 'brick' and found it interesting; more so now I can see how each type burns. I have a wood burner and if I were younger and fitter, would likely have a go at making some. Enjoy your Lamborghini, although it might have to wait until after the rocket stove vid comes out. ;)
Thank you for your kind comment ,,,,, the only way I'm gonna get any form of transportation out of this computer is if I sell it and buy a skateboard 😊
i don't burn too many of them just to dispose of the pile of cardboard ,,six a night at most ,,i only clean out the ash every couple of weeks .. i alwas set the wood fire in a good bed of ash
It would be interesting to see a burn time comparison with the tubes vertical rather than horizontal, it must be hard for oxygen to get into the center of those tubes while the outside is burning, but vertical they would be able to get oxygen across far more of the surface.
optimally you want to starve them of O2 not feed them. you want only exactly enough O2 to actually finish combustion. IE the bricks are better they last longer and still burn to completion. if you need a lot of heat fast use the tubes if you want it to "last" use the bricks.
i just burn them to get rid of all the amazon cardboard i get my main fuel is wood .. just cardboard would be like stoking the boiler on the flying Scotsman steam engine
yea but its not really free .... you need to spend a lot on amazon to get the cardboard .. I recommend spending it on woodworking tools ... you will have some tools to make the press
Kilo for Kilo, BTU's never change. It is better to control the burn rate and duration through the air intake and exhaust. A heating stove is nothing more than an internal combustion engine without moving parts.
My paycheck is about 700$ and one ton of coal costs 520$ so it really helps. It helps a lot in fall and spring, when you dont need to keep fire burning constantly. :)
wet wood is more of a risk at lining the chimney with creosote www.hunker.com/13419014/what-happens-when-you-burn-wet-wood-in-a-fireplace thats why the local chimney sweep drives a Bentley
I'm making one of the briquette presses soon. Just wanted to know what width & length are the outer and inner pipe, and what distance is the stopping line for the bottle jack? Cheers
outer pipe .. 110mm wide 500mm long / inner pipe .. 40mm wide 540 long .. push the plunger down by hand as far as you can make a mark and compress with jack a further 100mm second mark or more .. all the best 😊
more power to you if you like doing this my friend. Seems like a great deal of work to make these compared to the amount of heat you`ll get from them. Not to mention that the inks and chemicals in the cardboard probably not good for your stove pipe. I`ll just recycle my cardboard and compost my sawdust/shavings.
How hot do these burn compared to an average wood fire? It would be a way to save some additional time cutting and splitting wood, while also doing something about the overabundance of cardboard and shredded paper that my work just throws away.
Fucking coal... jesus and the rest of us that dont live in climate sensitive fucking areas are doing our best not to use plastic bags but your burning fucking coal...
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi The coal in Alaska burns cleaner than wood. The main decision for the switch from coal to natural gas in electric plants was driven by low natural gas prices, more efficient new natural gas turbine technology and the simple fact that many of the coal plants were over 50 years old and it is cheaper to change the burner than build a new plant. In fact, the new coal plants burn very clean. Most peoples understanding of "dirty coal burning" relates to decades old techniques or nations that do not use readily available "clean burning technology" or the use of shitty coal. It is 2022 we have the technology and the coal fired generating plants here and now, though most are mothballed for no good reason other than to meet a flawed and corrupt agenda. As for plastic bags that is your responsibility and your decision to use petroleum based convenience products. When we all demand renewable materials be utilized for these items than the manufacturers will respond. Everything that is plastic or composite is made with a petroleum product. You must use your purchasing power to enact changes, they will respond. And now to the last item, "Climate Sensitive", what the fuck does that even denote? Please explain. The Earths climate is changing, has always changed and always will change. We can do better with our pollution and emissions but last I checked CO2 is not a pollutant, every fucking thing that is green on this Earth needs CO2. I am ok with the Earth warming, it has before and it will again, just as it has cooled and will again. Humans are adaptive, if the rising oceans encroach on your land, get your fat ass up and move. Even better maybe do not build in low lying areas, there's a fucking idea for ya. Here is one simple solution; Geothermal electrical generation. Look up, "The Geysers" in California. Why are we not utilizing this free clean energy generation? But you won't pay any heed to this because you just want to have your mochalattechino and peruse your social media accounts on your idevice(which are produced in the most polluting nation on Earth who exploit children and engage in genocide) but you keep thinking you are on the "moral high ground". Anyway, good luck to you, I for one will continue to burn compressed carbon(you know plant and animals squished over time) also known as coal.
@@seanpoulk5718 Besides all of that the reserves of coal are many many times those of crude oil, there will be no such a thing as "peak coal" we would long have killed ourselves by them, probably in WWIII.
Is it just me or does this seem like a lot of work for very little reward? Burn time less than 1 hour. High ash content and considerable time to make. You could put that time towards something that would give a better yield on your time?
The idea behind these is that you get some heating for "free" due to the fact that you get a lot of magazines, prospects, cardboard packaging and so on and so forth, with your regular purchases and in your daily lives. Jugging your paper/cardboard waste into some water to dissolve it and then pressing it into a mold to burn is, more or less free energy. What these videos would need would be a comparison to the cost of the electricity it takes to make these (when you use a cement mixer), and potential damage to the oven due to the high ash and potential side effects from buring plastic and inks. But you would have to do a long time test for this to see just how much your chimney cakes up and if it might corrode the surface. And then you would have to compare chimney maintenance plus electriciy cost of making these versus buying some firing bricks at the store, to see if you are actually saving anything.
He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's pressed for time. I'm sure it's worth it to him to do it, or he wouldn't do it. People don't tend to do things that don't give them enough reward to make it feel worth the time and energy put into it.
I made these when I was a school teen with loads of free time. I used to cart them into the sun each day and back in overnight or when it rained, they took forever to dry in Ireland. They put out little or no heat when burned in a stove compared to wood or peat turf. In the end I used them as firelighters, A sheet of newspaper underneath would get them going and they would stay alight till the timber took light.
I wonder if the extra moisture and less density in the bricks allows for some chemicals from the cardboard/ink to settle and dry in them and gas off in the furnace.
I saw a RU-vidr use coffee in his briquettes. He gets the coffee grounds from the local coffee shop and lets them ferment with sawdust for 2 months. They become stronger and he says last longer and burn better than just cardboard and sawdust. Good to know if you need to heat a house. We want to make a pizza oven and a few briquettes will help the timber.
These are a great idea.ive just started making my first batch.ive used paper and cardboard from my blue bin mixed with this winters fallen leaves and grass cuttings.i will be doing this all of 2023 and stock piling for winter 2023. These are great for stove use and for getting a room cosy so you dont have to waste oil heating a full house if you only wish to take the chill from the immediate room your in.these burning with a cup of tea and you will be cosy enough.free heat for a small investment of 40 quid to buy briquette press and plasterers mixer.yes coal is the best option but at 15 quid a bag no chance.you can even mix twigs sawdust small pieces of wood into these.
Thanks Totally Chilled for the great comparison video ... Now if you purchase a couple of large clay flower pots, one large and one larger, invert them and burn a tube under them you should be able to heat your home for a month ... haha.
Do you burn these in you houses fireplace or shop? Can you think of any accommodations a person needs to think of burning this vs wood in a wood stove?
i had to find a use for the mountain of cardboard i had during the lockdown i could not drive to the rubbish dump ( and i was looking for content to make a video 😊)
@@VandKoala thanks man ...youtube texted me and according to their terms and conditions, if I get another 250 subscribers, I have to buy a Lamborghini 😊
A wood stove is probably dangerous as wood burns. Whoever though of a stove made of wood should invent a chocolate fire guard Just sarcasm, calm down now.
No I put a couple on with my kindling and add a few mixed in with hardwood on the dark cold winter nights as the rain is battering off the windows ..anyway it saves me running to to rubbish dump to get rid of all my Amazon packaging
@@TotallyChilled I liked both of your videos. Unfortunately I don't order from Amazon, so me and my wife suffer from the cold. Cheers from the Netherlands.
Have you considered a smaller diameter "drain" pipe in your press? Give your cardboard tubes a heftier mass. Also, instead of drilling holes in that drain pipe, wouldn't cutting slits running the length of the tube be better for draining? For instance cut 4cm slits on 4 sides, then offset the next set of four slits going up "overlapping" (the next set of slits is cut in between the first set of slits, offset maybe a cm) and repeating that pattern all the way up. That way you have drainage running the entire length of the pipe.
The pipe needs to remain resistant to compression that it experiences while pressing. Your pattern would make it collapse. But using a smaller tube would be viable.
But a drill and and less than 3mins made mine. You still have to season( dry) them with little time difference. On a 4" round ctaristic 3/4" is about as small as you want to go as 1/2" affects burn quality. It is just like burning a solid cylinder uneven and you have to tend the flame more depending on your combustion chamber.
@@Inpreesme yes you are correct but Mr green made a statement he did not ask a question if he had i would have said as long as they are dried completely you are just burning wood fibres the problems start when you burn wet wood or fibres the chemical reaction causes creosote to form in the flu a quick google shows this www.hunker.com/13419014/what-happens-when-you-burn-wet-wood-in-a-fireplace
The biggest issue may be the stove itself. Ten years of burning all matter of fibrous materials of various moisture content has not produced even 2mm of flue deposit because my SCAN Andersen 10 combines preheated secondary air with exhaust products of the first combustion and reburns them twice more. Nothing visible out the flue but heat waves. Nothing condensing inside the flue but water vapor. OTOH, even the best wood produced flue deposits with my atmospheric Vogelzang unless I ran the damper wide open all the time.
@@Sharpless2 Exactly but what I meant to say is "winning" depends on your objective. For me cylinders "win" b/c my wood heat-circulating fireplace, is used in short-ish bursts, prefer the intensity to duration.
I’ve been. Tell that cardboard is not very good for your flue I’m not sure if that’s just an old wife’s tale as in my mind is effectively just wood fibres. Can anyone comment?
I suppose it depends on what they use as a binder / glue in the cardboard. Amazon single wall cardboard package might be fine, corrugated constructed box maybe not soo good.. who knows????
I havent done it yet but I would think when you mix the paper cardboard with water to break up fiber a bunch of the adhesive washes out with it plus from the stuff being virtually free buying a creosote log or powder would be more than cost effective
I think that so long as the cardboard is burned hot and clean it should be fine for flue. Creosote is the condensation of smoke and so long as there is no smoke no creosote can form.
so thought just popped in my head... ive heard of frontiers men burning cow and horse patties to stay warm. so i wonder if you could use other organics like grass, sticks, and bark. use the same technique, amd make something better than cardboard.... just a thought. i think they would fall apart but id still like to see it tried out...
Any organic material that is ground down and properly dried and pressed should be able to burn like these logs. May be a slight difference in drying/cure times. FEMA, US Department of Energy, and SERI have had plans available to the public for biomass gasifiers for decades. Most people use wood or pellets for them but you could use any biomass.
