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Burton Photon Step On Wide 2023 2024 Boot Review 

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0:00 - Intro
0:10 - How it was tested
0:55 - Summary
2:07 - Weight
2:44- Sizing/Fit
3:39 - Adjustability/Heel Hold
4:12 - Bulgy Highback
4:58 - On & Off
5:56 - Flex & Support
6:39 - Response
7:35 - Shock Absorption
8:21 - Traction
8:40 - Footprint
9:25 - Warmth
10:05 - Insole
10:30 - Conclusion

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@Against417
@Against417 6 месяцев назад
I just swapped from the Burton Swath Step-On to the Photon Wides and I really like the additional room for my foot. I've been a big fan of the Step On system since 2018 and the Genesis/Photon combo is my favorite iteration.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
A high five to my fellow wide footed friend!
@Against417
@Against417 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, like you I'm kinda on the boarder of normal and wide, but the extra room does let my foot stretch better and alleviates cramping which I had been struggling with.@@thegoodridesnow
@jacobandrews2696
@jacobandrews2696 9 месяцев назад
Just wanted to throw down my 2 cents. Been loving the step-on system, and the quick response of the board under foot with them was the major selling point. In in my 20s, so convenience is not my biggest prio. But being able to get straight off the chair and strapped in without stopping, skating right onto the start of the hill, is F'n awesome. I hired a mountain guide with a bunch of friends, ABS packs, shovels and everything. The stepons worked great even in the waist deep pow, I sometimes only got the first click if I had and inch of snow under foot, but its still pretty rock solid
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for your 2 cents and glad they work for you.
@YashChoukse
@YashChoukse 3 месяца назад
The first two days with the Photon Step Ons were painful at the inner ankle area. After watching your video, I think I will get them heat moulded, hopefully that fixes it.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 3 месяца назад
Definitely do the heat molding.
@energ8t
@energ8t 11 месяцев назад
I have the Ion SO. I personally love the stiffer boot, but the stock insoles are like concrete on my feet. New insoles made the completely fine and comfortable. Still not sure why so many “pros” hate on the step ons because they do ride really well and I have been riding since ‘92.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your take. What insoles did you get?
@energ8t
@energ8t 10 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow I actually just use Superfeet and they are fine. Honestly, I ended up with those because I had to buy insoles on-the-fly and that's what I ended up with. I may upgrade to another brand this season if I can remember, but it isn't dire. I assume the stock soles are kind of meant to be upgraded. They are garbage IMHO.
@Neguz305
@Neguz305 5 месяцев назад
Nice.. I just copped the photon step ons with Genesis and the new custom X... still haven't tried them...hope it's a good set up
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 5 месяцев назад
Hope it works for you but if you have doubts hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@marciliopereira9007
@marciliopereira9007 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen any reviewer as technical yet straight forward as you. Uau! One question though, is the photon that you tried, the regular one or the soft one? Would you go for the wide photon or soft photon? I’m asking because they don’t offer a wide soft photon.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 8 месяцев назад
Many Thanks! This is the regular Photon (not the soft) and it's the wide version.
@marciliopereira9007
@marciliopereira9007 8 месяцев назад
Would you chose the wide regular over the soft?
@marciliopereira9007
@marciliopereira9007 8 месяцев назад
I’m asking because they don’t offer a wide soft version.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 8 месяцев назад
Didnt ride the soft yet so cant say.
@mackakiwinz4353
@mackakiwinz4353 11 месяцев назад
You’re reviews are next level James! Thanks heaps such good information. I have the standard step on photons and non step on photons. The width of my foot is borderline at 103 cm. Do you please know the width of your foot at the widest point? Thanks we really enjoy your reviews here in NZ.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
Many thanks! I'm 105mm so if you are a size 9 US and 103mm then you are an E/wide width too. It's best to go into a shoe store and measure your width there though because you might not have a wide foot if you are a bigger size foot.
@mackakiwinz4353
@mackakiwinz4353 10 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnowgreat help thanks James I am 103mm mondo 285 on my slightly larger right foot. Your information and reply is very much appreciated may you have many epic months in your up and coming season. Thanks again 🤙
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 10 месяцев назад
So 10.5US/28.5 Mondo is much bigger than my size 9US/27 Mondo. That means you are a just a few mm less than a D width and you do not need a wide boot like I do.
@mfd1068
@mfd1068 6 месяцев назад
Excellent review. This is my first season with the Step On and Photon boots. I have the Re Flex bindings. I just recently got a Jones Freecarver 6000 and was thinking about the X model Binding. The upgrade is just under $200 CAD. Is the X performance worth the upgrade? Thank you.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
Many thanks. I would see how what you have works with the Freecarver first before upgrading. You have a very responsive combo there. It might be all you need.
@thedude5510
@thedude5510 11 месяцев назад
Have you ever had any heel lift issues with any models of the Burton Step On system? I tried them out last season and had slight heel lift issues that was rather noticeable. Yes, they were double clicked in. Lol. This season I scored some older used Photons and will be experimenting with adding foam to the binding foot bed in order to try to mitigate this.
@aaallllen
@aaallllen 11 месяцев назад
Yeah that seems to happen. It wasn't really a problem w/ Photons
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
I did not. What model boot did you use? Would love to hear how the test plays out.
@thedude5510
@thedude5510 11 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow I have the updated Step On bindings( regular model). I believe the 2021 or 2022 version. I got some older 2018 Photons used, but they do have the updated heel cleats. I rented the new Photons in this video though from the Burton store twice and both times it happened. Especially on my back foot. I did however adjust the forward lean and strapping in around the house they feel pretty dang solid. Not noticing any heel lift. The foot bed is placed in the correct position for my boot size as well. The one thing I did notice when using the step on system was way less leg fatigue. I do ratchet down slightly more than the average rider so I'm thinking it is allowing more circulation. Just a theory. Overall I do enjoy the response. If I can iron out the small imperfections with the heel lift I would totally use these if they start to feel comfortable and I tend to start reaching for them in my binding quiver.
@aaallllen
@aaallllen 11 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow I'm 6'3 235lbs w/ XL StepOns for 2 seasons w/ the toe plastic redesign + size 14W Photons. The binding heel lifts 3ish mm off the board. It's more noticeable if you do it inside and on carpet with the other foot planted. On the snow it feels natural.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this and good to know. Yeah if you crank down your boots/bindings with normal straps you are not only cutting off circulation but often working towards fucking up your feet long term too. So that makes sense with what you are saying about the reduced fatigue.
@rubensikkema8372
@rubensikkema8372 6 месяцев назад
Hey James, thanks for the review it helped alot. I recently tested out the burton genesis and photon setup at a burton test tour. I tried the normal width boot, it felt great i had no pain but my 2 outside toes were sleeping after a few runs. My widest foot is 10,8cm. Will heat molding do the job or is it better for me to go with the wide boot?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
Thanks. 10.8cm doesn't help if I don't know your actual size. Best to go to a shoe store to get your actual boot size and width. Burton fits true to size so If you are an E or above go with the Photon Wide in your true size. If you are a D or below the regular with a little heat molding will do the job.
@rubensikkema8372
@rubensikkema8372 6 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow my actual size is US 10. I tried searching for a store, but every store here in the Netherlands has one of them sold out. Normal or wide
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
You are about an E width US. Maybe a touch past so I would suggest going wide if you can find one. If you go regular you will have to really heat mold the sides to get rid of the numbness and it still might not be enough.
@johnmcdonald6675
@johnmcdonald6675 11 месяцев назад
Hi James. I didn't understand that last comment about the Burton channel and adjustability. What is the issue if I don't have a Burton board?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
No stance width adjustability and limited boot to binding adjustability with Burton Step On bindings. Check the Genesis Step On Review and go to the Adjustability timecode. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aWpDkpQn-hU.html or go to any of my Step On binding reviews.
@mayumic08
@mayumic08 6 месяцев назад
Do you think the Ankle strap kinda compensates not having the double boa? Can i loosen the top boa and tighten the ankle strap to give it more flex wil that work fine? Im beginnerish and looking to progress more this season. Only Felix have the wide version, but heard they are quite stiff?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
Kind of. The problem is it only tightens around the ankle so above and below the ankle gets loose. Some people who ride a little more park-oriented or like a really loose/free feel really like keeping the ankle strap tight and then loosening the top. It comes down to personal preference. If you can demo anywhere first that would be the best way to know. If you can't and like adjustability I would pass.
@snow4lyf
@snow4lyf 11 месяцев назад
Any chance you will get to review the nitro step on boots? I destroyed the photons in one season and am thinking about switching to the nitro profile TLS
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
Sorry but no. I requested Nitro Step On boots but they didn't have any for demo.
@joshseekins3611
@joshseekins3611 6 месяцев назад
Hi @snow4lyf , approximately how many days do you ride per season? I have seen good thinks about these boots but very little when it comes to durability. I currently ride about 18 days per season so don’t want something that I will have to replace again in a year or two
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain 11 месяцев назад
I don't understand the ankle strap. It made sense for the old step in system, because the highback was integrated in the boot, so to speak. But the Step on have got higback already in the binding, the strap is not attached to it, so it doesn't do its supposed function, right? So wouldn't be better to make the boot even lighter, and add a regular binary boa, or just one boa, instead of that strap? Maybe I am missing something here, but I don't see the purpose of that strap, although maybe is an unintentionally good idea, like some boots out there like the Deeluxe Deemon, which have got a boa specifically for that part, to make the heel to really lock on. I don't know lol.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
It keeps the tongue from awkwardly folding on toe side turns like a normal strap in binding ankle strap would do. Step On bindings don't have an ankle strap so it emulates one. I felt the fold on Step On boots that don't have this strap.
@CormacMaher
@CormacMaher 8 месяцев назад
It's a psychological thing for me, it emulates the feeling of a tight ankle connection that you feel with traditional bindings. I love my step ons, after 20 years using traditional bindings I knew I wouldn't be going back to them after 15 minutes on my new step ons 🏂
@aftermatch01
@aftermatch01 10 месяцев назад
Any way of keeping the lower part a bit more lose and the upper part more tight? I know it's just one boa, which sucks compared to normal photons, but still - I mainly have had issues with the lower part of my foot being in pain and simply loosening it fixed it before (32 lashed). But that might've been due to needing wider boots as well.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 10 месяцев назад
Not as is but if you get a Strap Ins thegoodride.com/snowboard-accessory-reviews/strapins-power-strap-review/ you could tighten the top with that strap. You could even take it to someone to sew the strap in to the back of the boot so it's much easier to do. I really wish they did a double BOA with upper/lower separation. What width foot do you have and do you have Photon Wides? Also how hard are you cranking down the BOA?
@aftermatch01
@aftermatch01 10 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow Awesome idea about the straps, thanks! Unfortunately there's no shops nearby at all, so I have to order online and I've been researching like crazy for the past 2 weeks. Width is 103-104mm, which is on the verge of E, so considering how much pain I've went throhg in the past, I'll go straight for the wides this time and if they fit I'll also heat mold them with the rice method. You know, I was on the verge of going with Nidecker too - the main concern I've got with the Step On 2.0 is the hooks - I read online that some people had their hooks break in the first days. I know Burton will replace them for free but it's concerning they don't sell these hooks separately. I'd much rather pay extra and have peace of mind, than worrying that if my hook breaks I'm basically with no option to ride for days or weeks, until they fix it. Have you had any issues with the hooks specifically?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 10 месяцев назад
Wides is for sure the call. The Step On Burton's run more narrow than the regular boots. Well there is always a compromise with quick release systems. Both the Nidecker and Burton quick release tech have reliability issues and compromises vs. normal bindings. It comes down to what calls to you more. Nidecker is heavier with less shock absorption but is more damp and works with any boot. Burton has more shock absorption and more response but has proprietary tech that only gives you a few boot options and locks your lower leg in so it doesn't move like normal bindings do. So it comes down to how important getting your bindings on and off is.
@aftermatch01
@aftermatch01 10 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow I purchased the Photon Wides US 9 + Genesis bindings. They'll arrive next week!
@mayumic08
@mayumic08 6 месяцев назад
Do you think the Ankle strap kinda compensates not having the double boa? Can i loosen the top boa and tighten the ankle strap to give it more flex wil that work fine? Im beginnerish and looking to progress more this season. Only Felix have the wide version, but heard they are quite stiff?
@JMCHALE
@JMCHALE 11 месяцев назад
ordered the genesis + photon set up. the photons are a little concerning because my big toe is a bit tight. not totally pushing against the boot but it’s definitely making contact. problem is my other toes feel fine and the width feels okay. i keep reading they loosen up quite a bit but i’m considering exchanging for a half size up 11. i’m a 10.5. tough call cuz it requires me exchanging the bindings as well. what do you recommend?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад
When you lean forward a little like when making a toe side turn does it still touch?
@JMCHALE
@JMCHALE 10 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow i’d say the pressure slightly reduced when i do that? bit of pressure on my achilles and a little more toe press when i walk.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 10 месяцев назад
Ah man. I get that Achilles pressure even with proper fitting boots. That was hard (even with heat molding) to minimize that for me. If your toe is slightly bent standing up straight I don't think this is the right call. If your toe isn't bent when standing up straight there is hope you can heat mold it. Just do a toe cap over your snowboarding sock, boot fitting foam on your heel and another thin sock over it so you can keep them in place when you heat mold it.
@mackakiwinz4353
@mackakiwinz4353 10 месяцев назад
My photons are now in probably day 20 or so and have become more and more comfortable I added 2 jbars to my left and surprisingly removed the left jbar of my right boot and added a slight heel lift to the right boot and now they are riding perfectly definitely packed out maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of a size I also run mid arch sidas insoles a fair bit of fine tuning but you can get there. Some pain required I find to get them right but I know my right foot is .75 of a US size longer than my right and 3mm wider.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 10 месяцев назад
Well done and thanks for sharing what you did to make these work.
@SlingShotKid007
@SlingShotKid007 6 месяцев назад
Is the step on photon wide any different in terms of width than the normal photon wide? I've heard the step ons have slightly bigger toe boxes?
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
I haven't done a same time comparison with Photon Step On Wide's and Photon Wide's so hard to say. What I found is regular Burton Photon Step On's were narrower inside than regular Photons. When I tried the non-wide Photon's with my 9E they were wide enough but the Photon Step-On (non-wide) were narrow and cramped my feet.
@SlingShotKid007
@SlingShotKid007 6 месяцев назад
@@thegoodridesnow Interesting!! Thank you! I'll get back to you if I'm able to compare them side by side.
@thegoodridesnow
@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад
No prob and that would be great!
@trex2957
@trex2957 Месяц назад
Rubbish product. I rode them for 70 days. The toe box disintegrated starting at day 35-40. By day 60 the toe seams were gone. They're not engineered to withstand forces applied to the toe clips. The genesis stepon were just as disappointing - held together by little plastic clips that break, gas pedals that fall off, and hammocks that snap off. I know this is the hardware not the rider because I bought non step on photons and used last season for 60-70 days and surprise-surprise, the toe boxes haven't fallen apart. Junk, but if you like getting a few weeks only, or you're super casual and skid your turns and ride like a nanna these might be OK. Just look at how the hammock is attached - it's two little plastic pegs (that snap) and a pop rivet sent through plastic. If you don't see that is rubbish... Well. Think again when it snaps off and you only have s one season guarantee on that highback. The positives definitely do not out weigh the compromises... And I say this taking my non step on photons from last season and Union atlases to europe for their second full season. The step ons were unrideable failing $#@& by day 60. (rear) gas pedals lost, highbacks snapped off, rear toe clips failing on the first heelside. If you get this system ffs don't get photons, and def not genesis. Loved them for the first 2-3 weeks, until bits started falling off, and then boots started failing.
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