Bus built like a Tank | MCI D series | D is for Dependable.

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There once was a bus called the Dependable D. Well Actually its make and model is called MCI DL3. There are still some operating today. It was the bus that I learned to drive a motorcoach in. And it definitely earned its nick name.
Watch the video and find out how this bus came to be and why it was one of the most loved and widely used coach buses in North America.
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@Carspotterny 2 года назад

They are still being used in new york to connect people between the suburbs and the city. Slowly being replaced by Prevosts but they are still super common. A true testament to their reliability. And a true classic

@jarell1996 2 года назад

yeah your right i actually see them sometimes

@BottomLin3Op 2 года назад

Prevost is no longer is the transit market they are finishing out the order for the mta and focusing on the charter market. The transit market didn’t do well for them.

@charlesseaton6199 2 года назад

Not the suburbs from the Bronx and Staten Island into Manhattan.

@KawasakiR211S 2 года назад

The d4500cl and ct’s are a classic They good I live in nyc, staten island

@vincentlu36 Год назад

@@charlesseaton6199 when you go to Manhattan from other 4 boroughs. You are going to CITY. Some the BX and SI are definitely suburbs...Not just like long island and Westchester

@LacroixCruiser 2 года назад

We live and travel in our 1995 MCI 102DL3 . Great bus that’s easy to maintain.

@marvinjgerald6007 2 года назад

Very classy and on time in commemorating the legacy D series of coaches. It reminds us of why we even fancied obtaining one in the first place. All your information is spot on and quite informative to the oblivious. Two facts I’d like to mention, add and or correct: staring in 2005 MCI stared differentiating between a D series CL (classic) -with the traditional square headlights, and a D series CT (contemporary) stylings -with the early G model slant headlight housing. Also the frameless/smooth windows debuted with the new D4505 and D4500CT in 2005. In 2008 onward that the most radical front and rear end caps were changed and or modernized (headlight and rear taillight housing design changes). Also due to the rear end design change, there were actually still two fans in the rear -howbeit one is larger ( driver side) than the other (passenger side). They are not for the ac but rather for actual internal engine air intake temp quality and external engine/radiator/coolant cooling respectively. Also I’m sure you’re probably already making amends to produce another episode to elaborate on the all new D4520 -which is the real direct replacement of the legacy D series of “Touring or Luxury” coaches (and not the D45CRT or LE). The D45CRT is manufactured with a midship lift for public sector/commuter transit operations, while the D4520 has a lift in the rear or aft section of the coach, to maximize under- floor luggage capacity for private operators (like yourself).

@brandonhurley9982 2 года назад

I just drove a 2010 4505 today. Greyhound puts our buses through the ringer and you could tell this one was very much on its last legs

@tipsandtrips7519 2 года назад

What did Greyhound do with all of the G4500’s & D4000’s/102DL3’s?

@brandonhurley9982 2 года назад

@@tipsandtrips7519 took them out of service around 2020. I know some of the DL3s easily had about 4 million miles on them. A couple of our garages have become graveyards for them

@tipsandtrips7519 2 года назад

@@brandonhurley9982 Wow! I absolutely love the D series MCIs! If I may ask, how long have you been driving for Greyhound and what is your favorite model that you’ve ever driven and why?

@brandonhurley9982 2 года назад

@@tipsandtrips7519 I've been with them just shy of 4 years now. If I'm being honest, I'd have to say the Prevost X3-45 simply because of how smooth they are to drive. Plus the 4505s ALWAYS have some major issues with them, mainly a loss of power. I always feel like they're very sluggish when getting up to speed.

@tipsandtrips7519 2 года назад

@@brandonhurley9982 Dang it. It looks like Greyhound is finally saying goodbye to the MCIs I see. I know that you’ve seen a lot in those four years. It’s gonna take me a bit to get used to the Prevosts. 😂

@etpslick100 2 года назад

I miss the “manual” D3’s. They were fun to ride and drive. Guys still jump on my case about the stick shifts but hey, I love ‘em! Can’t help it! I remember when I drove the “C” series when I work for Academy back in the ‘90’s. Omg! Even tho they were automatic, they were still fun to drive.😌❤️😌

@texasabbott 2 года назад

I had the privilege of riding an early 55-seat 102DL3 with a 4-speed Allison HT740 automatic transmission (mated to the smaller 11.1 L Series 60 instead of the 12.7L). The owner wanted to save fuel and geared the final drive axle ratio for very high speed. This made the coach slog like a cement truck when driving through the city and struggled a bit chugging up the hills, but it sailed across Montana highways at 80 mph with engine spinning slowly and quietly. At least he didn't take it a step further and ask for the 4-cylinder Detroit Series 50 engine (was that even an option!?).

@willc5512 2 года назад

So the engine was spinning 1200 at 80? lol

@thud9797 Год назад

I demoed a 94 40-foot D3 and it had the Eaton Autoshift, the truck 10-speed but with a solenoid to do the shifting and it was pretty cool, only used the clutch to start and stop.

@sleepythespian1455 4 месяца назад

@@willc5512The engine was likely at 1200rpm. “80” refers to the bus’s speed.

@coreybabcock2023 2 года назад

I recognize the O'Hare bus and shuttle terminal lol I used to sleep in there at night when I was homeless in Chicago around summer 2011 and would often get a hotel bus there when a friend would pay for a night at the holiday inn or something like that

@emiliodaddio8517 2 года назад

I’ve been driving buses since 1991. I’ve driven Flxible, Grumman, Gillig, GMC, MCI,and Prevost. Still, I’ve learned quite a bit on this channel. Keep up the good work!

@thomasdarby6084 Год назад

Yep, I really love watching these videos. I drove buses for 30 years (1972-2002) and loved the long tours and charters most of all. I left city bus driving long before chair lifts or low floors were a thing, now I need them to get around! Lol.

@thomasdarby6084 2 года назад

I have always loved the D series, last coaches I drove after retiring for health reasons in 1996 were 102D3's with Nava-Hopi Tours out of Flagstaff (now out of business). I also drove part time a few 102DL3's with Luxury Tours out of Phoenix. I began my driving career with old 1940's GM transits, then later MC7's, 8's and 9's. Also some Prevost models. All in all, over all my career, I always appreciated the rock-solid build of the MCI buses.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

What's Your Personal Take On The MC-9s?

@thomasdarby6084 Год назад

@@tipsandtrips7519 I loved the MC-9's! I started on the MC-8's, and manual-shift MC-5's we used on ski runs. All were solid coaches. I always preferred to drive them over the odd-shift-pattern Prevost Le Prestige's we had, or even the Le Mirage. I always liked the MC'9's look, with the fluted side panels, a throwback to the tour/charter buses from an earlier era, and the last model (other than the Greyhound-special MC-12s) to use unpainted side trim. The MC-9's just drove well, steered predictably.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

@@thomasdarby6084 Hey, We Know A Good Bus When We See Or Drive One! L🤣L! The MC-9 Is My Favorite Bus Of All Time HANDS DOWN/BAR NONE. Question, Could You Tell A Difference In The Steering On The MC-9’s Pre-Integral Steering (Before 1981 I Believe)?

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

@@thomasdarby6084 Oh Yes, The MC-12 Was A Beast In Its Own Class! They Are Super Hard To Find Now…😞

@thomasdarby6084 Год назад

@@tipsandtrips7519 I am not really sure... the first company I began driving tours and charters for was in 1986, they had a bunch of older Prevosts and even a few GM Buffaloes, but all the MC-9's they got were newer ones so I have no comparison. We did get 2 102D3's late in 1987 before I moved to a different company (mainly 'cause the old firm was bought out). Prior to 1986, except for a brief stint at Greyhound in 1974, I drove city buses... a whole different animal. But I did love the MC-9's. I surprised a ride-along driver trainee when I parallel-parked my bus between two others at the Tahoe Queen marina which, at that time, was just at the end of a cul-de-sac. Could not have done that with the LeMirage!

@turbo8454 2 года назад

I own a 1978 MC8 with the 8V71 Detroit. It's an RV conversion and it a smooth solid coach. When at Greyhound, I drove the MC 12's, D3's and DL3's. I did get to road test a J model but left before any of those entered service.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

I Love The MC-12s!

@josephbrenz5394 2 года назад

I don't know if it's the manufacturer or the operator but here in the Philippines a bus no matter where it's built (most commonly China, South Korea, Japan, or locally built) it can last 20+ years easy but with the mandatory 15 year retirement (when the bus reach 15 years in service it's required to be retired) I guess what I'm trying to say is if the operator really care about their bus it will reach that 15 years easy.

@RonnieGreher 2 года назад

Hey James, a thing about the D4505. The sight glass for the coolant/reserve or overflow tank is WAY up top with a dedicated light to see it. VERY poor design by MCI. The 2 upper doors are also not the greatest. The knobs to pull down the rods and open the doors get gummed up and may not close securely at times. The 102DL3 had it's own issues where it would rattle and experience alot of play in the front end over time. Still this was a workhorse. Greyhound spent a good deal of money to extensively refurbish these, rather than replace them. The Prevost X345 coaches that ultimately replaced/displaced all of the MCI coaches at Greyhound, were not nearly as durable and long lasting. As silly as it may sound, the MCI could take a hit and still look pretty good. The X models were like tin foil compared to steel in that regard. The MC-12 was very lightweight, resulting in less than ideal winter handling. The MC-9 was a solid coach that squatted on the road and stayed planted firmly, as was the 96A and 102A. It wasn't until the Prevost changeover that Greyhound saw remote and heated side view mirrors for the driver. Those were short lived, as replacement costs trumped convenience. Finally the wheelchair lift removed/replaced and entire baggage compartment below. It wasn't uncommon to see luggage piled high in the little remaining space occupied by the lift. Today the Prevost fleet at Greyhound pales in comparison to MCI of the past. I’d like to offer a suggestion for a future video. Talk about the design and evolution of side view mirror on coaches. They’ve changed quite a bit, and some radical new designs are on the horizon ( no mirrors just cameras)

@skinnerhound2660 2 года назад

Not sure where you got your "facts" from but I would challenge you on several points. Greyhound hired a company that built motorhomes to refurbish the 102's and later the "G"s. In no way shape or form was this an "extensive" refurbishment. It was mostly cosmetic in nature, new paint livery, seats, wi-fi, and outlets. The drivetrain was not touched. Initially the X-3's were slowly phased in to replace the 12's because they were not ADA compliant, no wheelchair door and lift. The 102DL3's and G's remained for years after. GLI also bought MCI 4505's to continue to upgrade the aging fleet of 12's, G's and 102's so the X-3 in fact was not the sole replacement coach. At one point we could not run G's south to California because they no longer met the state emission standards and had to cut them in Oregon. Not sure why you state the X-3's were tin foil. They were in fact solid coaches and were a dream to drive. They have excellent visibility out the windshield with a large toll window. The mirrors were excellent. The largest reliability issue was having to regen the emission system at any given time and the problomatic hot water EGR. The 9's were coined the two million mile coach because they were built like tanks. The 12's were an updated version and equally as tough. They were no less stable than the 9's driving in inclement weather. I drove them routinely to Montana in the winter months over several high altitude mountain passes. I plowed through snow ice and ground blizzards with confidence. Some had 60 series and six speed Alisons, they were a dream to run.

@RonnieGreher 2 года назад

@@skinnerhound2660 appreciate your insights. I felt that the 12 was tin foil compared to the 9. Not sure why I wrote X rather than 12. The refurbishment program has 4 levels based on mileage on the chassis. Some cos he’s were barely upgraded, while some were very much rebuilt. GH pushed these refurbs beyond what they should have, in terms of years/miles in service. I remember the G not being legal for CA emissions standards.

@jeffherdz 2 года назад

That bus for sale would make a great camper ! Always loved driving the 102's at Greyhound.

@a1700zz 2 года назад

I just retired from driving buses this year. Started in 1989. Prevost is still my favorite followed by MCI. The D is one of my favorites along with the MC9.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

Gotta Love The MC-9! 🚌

@thegodblogger3812 2 года назад

I used to want to be a Greyhound bus driver. That was way back when it was the REAL Greyhound, not the disaster it has devolved into. I used to like to ride the Hound even when my own car or air travel was an option. These days I'd take a chance hitchhiking with the potential for being picked up by a serial killer before I take a bus. Plus, the serial killer chance is probably greater on the bus. Now it's air travel anything over 4 hours one-way. Anyway, great video. Thanks for the upload.

@LeeDfined 2 года назад

I did it from 2006- 2021 and I know what you mean...the REAL Greyhound died in early 1991...but since many of the old crew returned after the strike, they put up a good fight up until about 2017. I stayed a few more years and post Pandemic I had to walk.

@thegodblogger3812 2 года назад

@@LeeDfined Brave soul. Greyhound is a hollowed out shell. Uggggggh.

@ko9446 2 года назад

A company I worked for ran them a long time. Most were sold and driven to South America to continue service down there.

@greghuang2314 2 года назад

The MCI D series are my favorite North American motorcoach, and in my opinion the greatest motorcoach ever built in North America. Here in the NYC area, we still have 20 year old MCI D4000s in service for NJ Transit, and 18-year old MCI D4500s in service for MTA NYC Transit. From commuter transportation to cross country intercity runs, there's simply nothing as versatile and reliable as a D series.

@Bus4025 2 года назад

REMARKABLE, and excellent video. I cut my teeth on the MC9, however the 4 years I had to drive the "D" were heavenly.. I'll send you a pic on FB. Good job, James!!

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

Do You Like The D-Model Over The MC-9? if So, Why? 🤷‍♂️

@Bus4025 Год назад

@@tipsandtrips7519 sorry for the late response. I guess you are asking specifically why I like them? The "9" and "D", were two of my favorite coaches. I seen them on G-dog, and those were my buses to drive. These two buses were easy to drive , handle well , and overall look and feel like a bus. Nothing fancy or fabulous. Not alot of gadgetry. Plus the Detroit 8v92 sound w/ the Alison auto-tranny was music to my ears.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

@@Bus4025 ABSOLUTELY! 🚌🎉

@duvac12 2 года назад

They get from A to B reliably but a lot of the stuff on the newer buses (2018+) has been cheapened and stuff breaks easily. Each succeeding model year has been worse. We have one 2020 coach and it came from MCI with no less than 6 defects. No kneeler alarm, no traction control, misaligned baggage bins, the entrance door not having its lock hooked up. Vents that pop out of the dash and won’t stay in unless you glue and screw them down. Backup cameras that work when they feel like it and on the list goes. The quality is not what it used to be. When we get the 4520 maybe the J inspired design will be more substantially built. They appear to use a lot of the same parts now at least at a glance. One place I would rather have a D than a Prevost X on a line run is in a blizzard. The MCI is heavier and feels sturdier in adverse conditions. It’s funny too… my favorite bus I’ve ever driven and spent a lot of time with was a 2014 D from before New Flyer bought MCI and made its revisions to the design. That one had over 700,000 miles at retirement and ran like a top.

@captain.john. 2 года назад

I trained on our "D" back in the day. Awesome engine break compared to late models. Side note. I always got a kick out of switching off the main switch by the fuel door and it would automatically shut the entrance door.

@GK-yk4eh 2 года назад

I was a driver starting in 1984 went through Pro Drive from Silver Spring Md. was lucky to have driven for Bill Rohrbaughs Charter new Prevost and line and GMC couches. Atlantic Coast Charters MCI Hagerstown MD

@marcusmcclain5433 2 года назад

I always loved MCI, especially the basic design it the 9 , 12, 96, 102, D models and the D4505.

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

Heck Yes!

@donalddodson7365 2 года назад

Thank you, James. I'll bet you were kind of sad to say good bye to an old faithful. But, we can't hang on to everything tried and true. Hope your summer is going well.

@MotorcoachWorld 2 года назад

Hey Donald. Very true. Don't want to be a bus horder lol.

@threeparots1 2 года назад

I remember drag racing a Flyer E901 trolley. Down Main Street in Vancouver. Those old trolley did have torque though so it was a pretty even match with the 102 DL3 I was driving. Very slow, safe and short drag race 😝. Lot of laughter from my coworkers and the transit trolley operator. That was back in 01’ when the D series was quite new. The trolley from 1982 and now long scrapped. I did like these buses, good for trailering as well.

@BroadwayNPO 2 года назад

MCI 102 Ds are in the fleet I maintain. 60 series Detroits and B500s, still running strong, most of em don't even have 300,000 miles yet!

@skinnerhound2660 2 года назад

Always liked driving these for the Hound, didn't like the ZF pseudo manual transmission however. I remember when we had them refurbed by a company back east , they looked nice with the latest dark livery and updated interior, Wi-Fi , outlets ect however they didn't touch the drivetrain. They were tired like the rest of the fleet with a couple million plus miles. Like the 9's and 12's they were all steel interior and exterior, nothing like the cheap crappy "G" model. I remember when I would drive to Vancouver B.C. and GLI Canada would run our 102 dregs brought up after we drove the life out of them, the belt molding above the baggage doors were always rusted out. I never broke down in one other than a blown tag tire. Can't say that about a "G" or an X-3 with the genius hot water EGR system.

@LeeDfined 2 года назад

Yes bro. I did the DL3 for years and also drove for the Hound from 2006- 2021. Prevost are okey dokey. I got used to the D4505 to a point. But something special about the DL3. I also like G models as they were the first bus I moved on the skills course and also took my CDL test in.

@gerardlang9690 5 месяцев назад

I love the DL3 and the D4505. The best buses I've ever operated

@michaelquillen2679 2 года назад

I've driven several 40' coaches back in the day, including the Flxible Hi-Level, GM 4106, GM 4108, MCI 8, and Eagle 10 while driving activity buses for schools. One year I had the opportunity to drive the 45' MCI 102-DL3. My state then "outlawed" motorcoaches for schools and now we can only drive something like a 40' Bluebird All American as our activity buses. My favorite was the 1959 Flxible Hi-Level. I miss driving those classic buses.

@cdocker3070 2 года назад

I remember when the silver dog had them.....loved the engine brake....fun fact the first few hundred models made had a standard/ automatic transmission.....meaning you would only have to worry about shifting gears without clutch....weird seeing that for the first time....stay safe James....keep on Rollin brotha

@BassmanII 6 месяцев назад

James, the D and DL were also offered with 5 and 7 speed sticks as well. Greyhound Canada's coaches had that with the S50 and S60 engines.

@paulramsey8187 2 года назад

I just discovered the MCI D45 CRT LE. Its gorgeous.....

@Cupertinorail Год назад

I have seen these buses many times. From what I remember Amador Stage lines used the DL3 until like 2018ish. Houston Metro has used them for quite a long time. Also in California San Joaquin RTA still uses DL3s as with many prisons.

@MotorcoachWorld Год назад

They are good buses. They were everywhere at some point. Yes you are right A lot of people still use them however they are becoming less prominent as newer model buses start phasing them out. Which is too bad really because they hold up really well

@greghanson3495 2 года назад

We (Sundance Stage Lines) still have 6 D3s (5 have over 1,000,000 each and the other one is at 965k) and 2 DL3s, but those will leave next year when CA smog laws force their retirement. We would have more 40 footers, due to the number of restricted roads in our area, but MCI messed up the D in the 2010 update by installing the DEF tank in the rear luggage bay instead of redesigning the fuel tank area and making other choices geared towards the commuter market.

@cdocker3070 2 года назад

I live in Alabama, travel back and forth between Ga.... greyhound, Southeastern, southern stages still operates these legends in 2022

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

@@cdocker3070 I’m In Alabama As Well & You’re Right… 🚌🫡

@boosted_brody5474 2 года назад

Owned several of these 102DL3's and 1 102DL3 SS, Greatest buses ever made!

@jakebluethunder Год назад

I'm not a bus driver (but have much respect for them), but a former commuter (due to pandemic/post-pandemic changes) and I have always loved the MCI D's. They comprised the commuter segment of the fleets of two transit providers here. They're very comfortable, classy and I love the sound of the engines! Thanks for all of this great information (your knowledge is amazing) and the easy way you laid it out. 🚌 👍

@coreybabcock2023 2 года назад

At 6:47 that's exactly how I remember Greyhound back in the day

@SouthJerseyRailProductions Год назад

New Jersey transit had and has a few more 2001-2003 D4000s. They had Detroit motors and they where beasts. Now there all being retired and 10-20 are left unfortunately. It’s sad but they are great busses!!

@RipRoaringGarage 2 года назад

Great video. Love the D (phrasing?), but MC9 was still a glorious coach!

@retroolschool 2 года назад

Excellent vidéo James! Thanks.

@coreybabcock2023 2 года назад

I remember being on a MCI that was greyhound in the mid 90s I was 10 11 years old and those MCI are way better than a vanhool or gilleg or Orion I think frex in the mid 2000s used a MCI or two was a passenger service between Colorado springs and Denver

@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 2 года назад

You can't compare a gillig, Orion buses to a coach bus like mci buses, yes some transit companies use gillig and Orion buses for Express service. For cross country, gillig, Orion buses are not made for that. Mci, prevost and van hool, tesma are used for long commutes across country.

@coreybabcock2023 2 года назад

@@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 thanks for clarifying it

@jarrellbabb1344 2 года назад

I like them for over the road trip not in town charters because of turning ratio.

@joaoluistavares6046 2 года назад

Stainless Steel? Now, these are truly tanks.

@davidford3968 7 месяцев назад

The first Motorcoach I ever drove was a 1998 MCI 102 D3 with public transportation specs. Where I work now we have some D4505s that we primarily use for line runs so I drive them from time to time. Still good buses, but I fell in love with the Prevost H models that we have, but nothing and I mean nothing beats my 98 102D3. Where I worked at at the time we had just taken delivery on some 2012 D4000CTs and a lot of the drivers didn’t want to drive the older buses so I got to drive the 98 every day, and I absolutely loved it

@derrickwillie4449 2 года назад

I used to take that damn bus in college. Probably that one. Went to Bradley. It was a bad college I’m a dump town called Peoria.

@richardmoore2590 2 года назад

James, thank you so much for another interesting and informative video. Your vast knowledge is amazing. You are appreciated sir.

@12longz 4 месяца назад

I've always wanted to drive a peoria charter as a kid. Thank you for the videos!

@seantaft9281 2 года назад

Not a bus driver, but absolutely love your channel, very interesting!!!

@brad_Ca 2 года назад

On my job I drive a 1996 102D3, it has 1 million miles but still runs good. They are looking at buying a new coach and selling the current one. Although I will miss this bus, I must admit I’m looking forward to driving a new bus.

@Rheilffordd 2 года назад

Although I don’t live in the US or have any interests in American motorcoaches, I greatly enjoyed this video and the level of detail you have in the narrative, always great work!

@MotorcoachWorld 2 года назад

Thank you so much that means a lot to hear!

@luiselapostolfeliz2421 2 года назад

@@MotorcoachWorld Loving the MCI D class coaches. Plz reply.

@guineapiglady2841 2 года назад

@@MotorcoachWorld I found that you might like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I2Pik5R7AQg.html

@FMEverAfter Год назад

The Defiant! Love it. Sweetheart if a coach. Been working on them since 1996.

@PGHammer21A 2 года назад

Keller Transportation Services (and other companies with MTA Commuter Bus contracts) still use these MCI Ds *because* of their reliability - along with Prevosts - but primarily still these ultra-reliable MCI Ds.

@alanmihatov765 2 года назад

The MCI 102DL3 came equipped with a steering tag axle that was advertised as giving the coach the same turning radius as a 40-footer. You had the option of locking out the steering tag by a switch on the dashboard. The first year models had the "box" rear lights you mentioned. The 40-foot D model introduced the wrap around and high-mounted lights, which were adopted to the DL3 model the same year. Great job on the video!

@davidhamm5626 Год назад

When I drove my section of my route, from Denver yo Steamboat Springs, Colo, I drove a D series .1006 , is one on the tour jackets,which I still have!

@vehiclesonajourney 2 года назад

Nice video! And you're 100% correct. Those D coaches will last till the end of time.

@Tina-ds3pp 2 года назад

Great video James!

@AmaroqStarwind 2 года назад

Hey, you should look up “semi-trailer aerodynamic devices”, and see if adding one of those tail things can increase the range of a motorcoach. There’s also something over in Europe called a “teardrop trailer”.

@VQSeries Год назад

Really thorough and well-put together review, thank you for this 👏

@BusTVChan Год назад

D series are my favorite buses.. especially with the bifold doors and detroit diesel and jake brake.. i like them with the front and side destination signs... but i also love the mc9a and mc9b

@glennman9890 Год назад

Very nicely done video on MCI's. I have a 2002 D4500 that I'm converting to an RV. This video is a great resource on the history of MCI D models. Thank you very much.

@sleepythespian1455 4 месяца назад

Here in Colorado, we still have an extensive fleet of “D” series coaches around. RTD in Denver runs many D4500CL and D4500CT’s, and Bustang, our intercity carrier, runs long-distance spec D4500’s.

@eyestoenvy Год назад

As a frequent coach bus traveler between NYC, AC, DC, BOS, & PVD .... I for one greatly prefer these buses on Greyhound, Academy, Peter Pan, NJ Transit, & even the Chinatown lines over others for their SEATS! The seats are plush yet provide great support for hours. I cannot say the same on Greyhound's newer Prevost's and their high back & low to the ground leather seats, those are ass killers! Thanks for the post.

@EpicThe112 6 месяцев назад

Speaking of Atlantic City you must be referring to the New Jersey Transit 319 year round Wildwood Atlantic City NYC via Toms River

@stevenclark3608 2 года назад

Very informative. Thank You.

@Link8451 2 года назад

the Denver RTD has a large fleet of MCI D4500CL's and CT's my favs are fleet numbers 1991 to 1996 because they still have the silver skirts and the old style headlights im going to be real sad when they eventually retire

@randybourdon2791 2 года назад

Great review on the buses James, thanks for sharing!

@chuckmid Год назад

I feel old, I have built MC-12"S in Pembina ND. In 1993 I wired the rear of a DL-3 Custom Coach, finding out later it was for Hugh Hefner.

@MotorcoachWorld Год назад

Lol that's awesome. Thanks for sharing that. I drove a few mc12 s for a really shady bus company back in 2007. They bought them from greyhound wrecking yards.

@Maunico0809 2 года назад

NJT is actually getting their last batch of D series buses, the 2022 D5400CT, the last batch of D series is part of an order that started in 2016, this is the last order MCI has done with the iconic D series design.

@carltonkeys6205 8 месяцев назад

The MCI D4505 is the smoothest riding bus on the planet 😊

@mls515 2 года назад

I have a lot of miles in on 102D’s in the ‘03-‘04 timeframe. Solid highway coach. Would have been nice to have an air seat. In tight spots the DL3 turned like the Queen Mary. The problem with the D in that era is you could be running a brand new one but the customer might think it was 10-15 years old compared to the Van Hools, Prevosts, MCI E’s & J’s and even the occasional Setra S417 you would park next to when you pulled in somewhere. The styling, actually the lack of it, was really that far out of date. Certain kinds of charter and tour groups would really max out the luggage space too.

@og_blue3925 2 года назад

Absolutely love your channel

@LeeDfined 2 года назад

I love my DL3s. I drove for Greyhound 2006-2021, and was lucky to have been around the DL3s up until about 2019 when they decommissioned them. I love their engine sound and like you said "dependability."

@tipsandtrips7519 Год назад

Oh Wow. Why Did You Leave The Hound If I Can Ask? Did You Enjoy Driving For Them?

@jimmymakmta 2 года назад

Love driving then coaches

@vincenthprice2260 2 года назад

I really enjoyed this video of the history of the D series keep them coming

@gsm19911 Год назад

I’ve driven many D models when I started with my company (Wade Tours) in 2011 at age 19. We still had a few MCI’s with the older 2 stroke Detroit engines which I loved to drive. They just had a nice sound and ran smooth. Then they were sold and we had a few D and DL’s left. They were excellent coaches. The series 60 Detroit had more power than the 6V92 but the 8V92 and series 60 were close in power. The series 60 you could “lug” more. The air windshield wipers use to drive me crazy. Noisy and two controls but a washer control I had to play with to get the windshield clear instead of the one control today. Thr D models and older were all very similar in design. The inside, controls, and body. The j is where MCI really changed things up. I preferred the D models. I felt like I was driving something with substance vs the flimsy fiberglass J models. I owned a 1988 Prevost for some time a few years back, and I must say, Prevost has a nice ride!

@MegaMrking22 2 года назад

You really can’t bet the classic

@EpicThe112 2 года назад

There is a 55 seater version of D4500CT with restrooms available to buy. NJ Transit uses them on 319 & 350 Selected Academy bus lines routes including Garden state Parkway Forked River Service area trips. My first D4505 ride was a 2010 Model Detroit Diesel Series 60 EPA 2010 Compliant Trans Bridge Lines 360-365 July 2017

@kevinwong6588 Год назад

Upper 7100 series 2008 models based at Egg Harbor (also on the 550 series routes).

@Skullitor 2 года назад

James, This is an excellent video.

@djl2519 2 года назад

Dude, your videos are AWESOME. Don't change a thing!!

@stevec2940 2 года назад

Excellent video, thanks for all the clarification on nomenclatures. I literally gave up trying to ID MCIs after the 12. They all look the same to me.

@ipeters61 2 года назад

Beginning guy, William Johnson, is that Post Road Stages of South Windsor CT? That's my hometown!

@_Jin_Kim_ 2 года назад

As always, very informative and interesting video!

@leonb2637 2 года назад

NJ Transit has been one of the biggest customers of the D and subsequent series MCI buses. I have had 1000's of commuter trips on them from NJ to NYC. I would also add that NJT had some made to use natural gas.

@Hal-Robinson 2 года назад

I thought it was pretty awesome scene downtown Tampa right next to the Greyhound station there I live in Tampa so that made it an extra awesome video seeing the Tampa fire department station one and the fire museum right next to the Greyhound bus as it was driving

@LeeDfined 2 года назад

I resigned from Greyhound as a Tampa based operator after 14.5 years. I have a few bus videos on my channel.

@carlheadley9775 2 года назад

I like the D4500 1998 -2007 models and I also am a fan of the Prevost h3-45

@berylwhite2983 2 года назад

This is an excellent video! Ella says she believes it's her favorite. Keep up the great work. Of course you always do great work!

@Eric-hq2yj Год назад

I sure miss 1994-2000 MCI 102 D3/DL3 and 98-02 Prevost H3-45. Best buses ever made in my opinion. The newer stuff just has too many electronic stuff. More to go wrong.

@johnwright3710 2 года назад

James, I was just about to email you about the D model for sale, and then I saw the dreaded CAT/ ZF combo! I think the 2010 D redesign is one of my favorite coaches.

@robertfinley6288 2 года назад

Very informative video I never drove an MCI only Eagles and GM Buffaloes. But all of the manufacturers made modifications or had options for there basic models. This is a little off the subject but I saw a coach for sale today on Craigsbuslist that was a 35 foot two axle 1973 MCI 5. When I looked at the picture of the restroom it had a sink with water faucet and built in soap dispenser so it must have carried water for hand washing. I have been trying to do some research to see if this was standard or an option. It appears it was manufactured into the coach and not an add on. The bus was not an rv it is still a functioning passenger hauling coach. I thought the picture was very interesting. I am trying to trace the history of the bus.

@actemple3282 2 года назад

Love the d busses

@puffkendrick6850 2 года назад

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water,James comes out with this super informative video.Oh well let me go watch it again and try to get the letters and numbers correct 👍

@ml48963 2 года назад

Wow, amazing video with tons of cool history and details! Man, $19k for a well-maintained bus with a C13 sounds like a pretty sweet deal!

@legodoug6046 2 года назад

I drove the last 96 d 3 model year for 6 months then got a 102 d 3 and noticed the improvement for line run service. The d-deck was nice

@jameskendricks4508 2 года назад

Excellent video. Very informative!!

@eddonbordeaux3192 2 года назад

7:36 I recognize that! My hometown of San Luis Obispo.

@garrettinkyo4653 Год назад

I remember the driving the MCI 102DL3 spanking brand new back in 1995;-I took my CDL driving test on a 1976 MCI MC-8-(I'm revealing my age-LOL) Talk about being built like a tank!!!!powered by a 2 stroke Detroit Diesel 8V-71, one of the most "bullet proof", dependable engines of prior to that time. I also drove a MCI 102C3 powered by a Detroit Diesel 2 stroke 8V-92 turbocharged engine (Being replaced by the 4 stroke Detroit Diesel series 60). I miss the 8V-92's power-Great video, BTW James. I gotta admit, you really know you're motorcoaches and, for someone like myself who's obviously 15 years older than yourself, I do learn stuff I never knew by watching your videos-Keep up the "GREAT" videos!!!!!👍

@MotorcoachWorld Год назад

Hey Garrett. Thank you sir. Honestly I learned a lot while making these videos. I do a lot of research before I start talking Infront of a camera lol. I don't want to put bogus stuff on RU-vid. I really appreciate the kind words. The D model was my first coach too. I wish they still made them. There was nothing wrong with them

@druhuggins8767 2 года назад

The video I have been waiting for. I, like you cut my teeth on the D and truly miss driving this beast. I have not doubt you are sorry to see your last one go.

@MotorcoachWorld 2 года назад

I'm glad I could please Dru. Yeah I'm kind of sad to see these things go