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This is great if the customer owns all the equipment or is the utility company. If the transformers are utility company owned and the equipment is customer owned, we have to decide how to size the bus bar in the gear based on electrical loads attached. Utility companies can change their transformers as they see fit.
Hi Kevin, Agreed, if you are trying to conserve money we can base the bus bar on the connected loads, but make sure you future proof the design by adding lots of spare busbar capacity as upgrading the busbar size later when new feeders are added can be very painful in terms of outages and cost.... steve
stephen brooks Over the years doing electrical designs for all kinds of businesses, I have checked back with my customers and gotten a printout of their utility bills for a year minimum. The bus was sized using NEC calculations. Every time the results were very similar. A 3000 ampere rated service equipment would have maximum recorded 900 to 1100 amperes. Utility companies typically took our load information and multiplied it by .5. Respectfully, Kevin
Hi there sir. I would like to ask if I can use the same computation? Say, I need to determine the HV panel outgoing protection to a load 630Kva, 33/0.4Kv Transformer. Hope you could help me. Thanks.
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Hi sir .. you said incomer 1 (800A) Incomer 2(800A) future (800A) ..and you going to choose 2500A busbar .if I saw in my switchgear diagram all incomer and buscoupler are same rating .. for example 2500A busbar we choosing Incomer and buscoupler 2500A breaker .. but current rating just 680A for both Incomer why?????
Hi Ahilan, You didn’t mention the system voltage but the utility may be future proofing the substation by having the highest rated circuit breakers possible. You will also find that the cost difference between 800/1250/2500 circuit breakers can be small for large equipment orders so it makes sense to go for the highest circuit breaker rating , this also reduces the need for different circuit breaker spares and allows the circuit breakers to be interchanged easily when one goes faulty. Steve
Thanks. I have some questions, could you explain how to calculate or do the sizing for bus-bar at MV side of power transformer HV 220kV/20kV, 12%, 125MVA, YNd11, ONAN/ONAF? where at PCC of transmission, it is 40kA at 220kV (HV side) which is the short circuit current value considered as designing at this high level voltage (220kV) (according to transmission operation) and in addition, the company of transmission gives us a value of 15kA(maximum demand of load) the maximum three phase short circuit current at the same point PCC (High voltage side).. So the second question, according to IEC standard or experience for designing MV switchgear at 20KV, what short circuit current value will it have to be used 40kA or 15kA (PCC connexion, 220kV) for sizing my MV switchgear, Ik and Ip (withstand simetrical and peak short-circuit current?
if you had say a 500 amp max load could you use a much higher rated busbar of say 2000 amp, i don't see why you need to have the busbar rating stay near the load value, seems to me you should or could just a much bigger bubar and you wont ever have a problem.
Hi, that’s correct. You don’t size the busbar based on the load, as loads can change over time. You size it based on the maximum amount of power available to flow into the substation steve
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I dont think we need to size the busbar and Buscoupler to match with the sum of Secondary current from both the transformers (In the case of two transformers)as only one transformer will be working at a time when the buscoupler is closed..Please let me know your thoughts on this
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I have a question. Some peoples in youtube says for copper 1 sq mm = 1.4 Amps and for Al 1 sq mm = 0.8 Amps . Is it correct or not ? and how to calculate the current density for busbar if i want carrying current of 200 Amp as an example.
Hi, The system voltage is kept constant regardless of the power output of the transformers or the size of the loads. If the voltage is constant then the only thing that can change as the power magnitude changes is the current and it does, when the power drawn by the load increases the current increases. Regards Steve
Generally, bus coupler breaker will be normally open. One transformer A will feed to bus A and trf B will feed to bus B. However, there will be some case that if one of transformer not available another will take all the load of bus A and B in this case bus coupler breaker will be closed it means that both trafo A & B shall be sized based on load on bus A plus load on bus B it means that bus coupler breaker just size as per transformer rating it is not required to unnecessary size double time of trafo rating this is the same thing of bus bar rating also Please check your presentation sir
Hi PP, This is a very simple example and most transmission level substations will have multiple incomers, transformers and busbars. The decision on the bus section breaker rating will be decided by the designers to provide the best operational flexibility & cost effectiveness for the system. Regards Steve
please can you explain the choosing the CT, PT, Breaker size for outgoing and Incoming line for newly construction line from the existing feeder , thanks sir such a good explanation it has uses a lot for all
Thanks for that Stephen - in the first example with 1 incomer, the full load current of the secondary side of the transformer is 1050A, could I design the switchgear with a busbar rating of 1000A and an incomer breaker rating of 1000A (maximum peak load including future spare is 900A) . I have done similar on a project which I consider to be a sound design. I think it is fit for purpose but does it break any IEC codes do you know?
Hi Chi, In the UK we would always choose the rating above the transformer rated output , so 1250A in your case. The loads change over time so it’s not the best way to size the busbar. Regards steve
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