Good lord Nadine you look absolutely beautiful in this film ! Skin, hair , makeup, nails, neck , accessories, clothing, just gorgeous! I love this man he’s the bomb 👍
Too kind but you know me - lots and lots of serums, my daily mineral only sf and retinol at nights ... no fragrance and avoid lying in the sun ... X BTW that base is the brilliant IT Cosmetics CC Cream SPF50 (which is my go to spf every day) X
The to & fro triggered by Nadine incessant need to be right meant the content terminology went over my head.He speaks about the science in very layman terms when he's allowed. Haven't watched a Nadine Baggott vid in ages as I find her personality obstructive when she's talking to experts. They're never allowed to finish their thoughts or answer the question without her intersecting with her own answer. She wants to put words into Des mouth and he came across exasperated. I have used Environ products for years and know they're great. I stopped for a period when I couldn't afford them & my skin suffered & changed. So he knows his stuff wish he'd been allowed more talking space in the way Caroline Hirons gives during her expert interviews.
I just love Des Fernandes, he will always be my hero. Very interesting to hear what he had to say about spf's. I truly hang onto every word he says, just look at him at 76yr and his micro needling. My little "rollcit" is always used, now I'm looking for professional micro needling here in Dorchester, Dorset. Des has always been ahead of his time. My first Environ product bought at my little beautician's in Bedfordview, SA that my tube of Environ was for face, decollotage and eyes, just fabulous! Great videos Baggors, he is an absolute wonder. xx
Wow! I think this is the most informative video I have seen in a very long time. I loved there was no “brand” endorsement. Just science and ingredients that actually work. Looking forward to Part 2.
They are different forms of UV radiation (different wave lengths), A are short wave lengths and contribute to aging and B are long waves that contribute to burning. Both contribute to skin cancers and I think his advice that UVB protection is not needed incredibly concerning and potentially dangerous. Yes SPF with UVB protection won't protect against aging, but hey if you are dead from skin cancer you don't need to worry about aging.
vickytime always use UVA/UVB SPF 30 and reapply every 4 hours. I use SPF50 but live in Australia and wear it all year. This Dr is a disgrace I’m shocked Nadine did this. Here’s some NHS guidelines for you ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAqRMr47KWk.html
@@anthecrawford3957 @reformschoolgirl If you listen to what Dr Fernandes was saying he said that AT THAT TIME OF YEAR (ie Winter) in Cape Town there was essentially zero UVB because at that latitude in winter the sun is so low in the sky that all the UVB is absorbed by the greater amount of the Earth's atmosphere it passed through to reach you, however the UVA is not absorbed to the same degree so you are still exposed to quite a lot of it. Consequently slathering yourself in an SPF sunscreen that only blocks UVB is pointless, you need to be using a UVA blocker. It is thought that the use of sunscreens that only blocked UVB is behind the rise in skin cancers because they enabled people to spend more time exposed to UVA than if they had not worn any sunscreen.
To me, skincare is pretty simple. Avoid the sun, don't smoke, wear sunscreen, avoid fragrance in all skincare products, avoid known allergens in skincare products, cleanse thoroughly but gently, and keep skin moisturized. Add tretinoin to the nightly routine several times a week, being careful to monitor the skin for signs of irritation. That's pretty much it for me. I don't really hold much of a high opinion of Vitamin C or peptides, they seem sort of trendy and gimmicky to me, but I do think that ceramides, niacinamide and a handful of other ingredients are worth using. AHAs and BHAs are tricky, and I use them very sparingly. Over-exfoliating is worse than not exfoliating enough, in my experience. As far as microneedling goes, I am really not impressed with it. I had several treatments performed, and I was really not bowled over by the results. I have pretty significant acne scarring of the rolling and icepick variety, so I've looked into medical procedures to address them. Subcision and TCA Cross are much more effective in my experience than microneedling. I think people with post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and post-inflammatory erythema are better candidates for microneedling than people with atrophic and hypertrophic acne scarring.
Defo agree I learnt this the hard way after battling skin irritation because I complicated my skincare routine way too much !! Also drink lots of water
Dr. Fernandes has a wonderful, understandable way of explaining what ingredients are effective for and how they work! Thank you Dr. Fernandes for educating me!
Oh Nadine. This is a wonderful video. I knew you admired Dr Des for a long time, as do I. I had not seen him for for some time. Thank you for bringing him to the fore. Kind regards Kate
This was an incredible treasure trove of information about protecting one's skin from the sun, fighting spots and the importance of Vitamin A. Bravo for sniffing out the best sources.
What do you mean when you say there is no UVB in Cape Town??? Just by a quick google search, I found multiple pages with the UV index (UVA+B) in all the provinces of South Africa, with Western Cape being low (2-5 this week), which although low can cause damage in the long run. I am honestly so confused by his statement. I feel like it's misleading people and driving them not to use SPF (?!?!)
Irelys Sarel it is severely dangerous and I can’t believe Nadine put this post up! Of course UVB rays can cause cancer, you get burnt, your DNA over time changes and melanoma is one the UK’s greatest killers. UVA/UVB sunscreen always. There’s a link to NHS guidelines for you. I’m Australian and prefer to get information from scientists and real doctors unlike this twat. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAqRMr47KWk.html
I think his views are very interesting - and I am open to learning - he is not anti SPF he just thinks we overuse chemical spfs on cloudy days when most of us are indoors - he is pro physical/mineral spfs and protects his skin when he is in the sun (as do I) ... he is a leading South African skin cancer and skin ageing expert and I think his views should be heard.
Nadine Baggott I’ve now researched him and Environ so I acknowledge his expertise within this realm. However Nadine what caused most people concern was the notion of Capetown having no UVB (impossible), leading people to ask what should I wear? The answer is simple broad spectrum UVA/UVB 30 plus if you are outside regardless if it’s cloudy. For the sake of your viewers clarify the point because both UVB and UVA exposure causes cancer. The other points he raised were interesting but sadly he lost me his unscientific approach to sun protection. I attached a few links to some people asking questions about about what to do, including a link highlighting UVB factors seasonally and when cloudy. What strength you need to use ect done by WHO and NIH.
Love Dr Des met him recently at one of his seminars, lovely guy very informative and honest. Environ is one of the best product ranges I’ve ever worked with!
I think his views are very interesting - and I am open to learning - he is not anti SPF he just thinks we overuse chemical spfs on cloudy days when most of us are indoors - he is pro physical/mineral spfs and protects his skin when he is in the sun (as do I) ... he is a leading South African skin cancer and skin ageing expert and I think his views should be heard.
Very interesting Nadine; I appreciate listening to someone of his caliber who is not singing the usual party line. I didn't know about his product line but knew of him from researching micro-needling. Looking forward to Part 2 and hoping it's even longer as he's so interesting!
Really really confused about SPF (and it's not just this interview). I feel like there's a downside to SPF (aging from oxidants??, vitamin D blocking??) that Doctors keep skirting around because they worry we'll stop using SPF for all it's very important good stuff (cancer prevention, ant-aging against sun damage). I want someone to just tell me the definitive pros and cons about both mineral and chemical SPFs and nano-partical mineral ones in straight language. I'm not going to stop using SPF for God's sake, but at least I'll be able to make an informed decision about how to best manage the negatives. Someone just needs to be brave enough to do this as I've watched umpteen interviews with esteemed Doctors who all seem to obliquely reference some issues with SPF without ever saying what they are. Don't you think it's about time we could have an open and frank discussion about SPF without being talked down to?
The core is UVA protection. The core that is fighting it most successfully are the powerful antioxidants. Contrary to all around the net misinfo, vitamin A (if one has been using it long enough) is the best UVA protection by itself. Another one is vitamin C. Different variations of vitamin A (not blindly sticking to one brand only) trigger as many different receptors within the deeper layers of the skin, thus making it more resilient to the UVA contrary to the popular belief. Of course, mineral sunscreens are to be used, but the hype (esp in the USA unlike here in Europe) is waaaay overboard with applying it and reapplying it 5-8 times a day (talking serious layers on each reapplication) depending on ones obligations in regards to outdoor activities. So much sunscreen is contra productive in so many ways (my longtime dermatologist gave me access to many scientific papers written about that, by top notch surgeons and dermatologists.) Work on the actives, use mineral sunscreens in moderation, wear a heat if living in hotter climates and natural fabrics. And avoid direct exposure to the sun. When you cannot (in a car, running errands with no shade in sight, apply mineral sunscreen with the components this gentleman and expert has pointed out as important ones.) Just do the digging and in-depth research beyond You Tube and social networks. This sunscreen hype has been flooding the net for years while, of course, big pharma is cashing in bigger bucks than on medications for serious illnesses and treatments. I'm 49. From Mediterranean region. Did my research. Applying it in practice. My skin is more than fine. Not to mention my grandmother who's approaching 90. In the fields for more than 70 years now. In the sun. Directly. Never ever used a cream in her life. Just a hat and a scarf. She's more than fine too.
I was introduced to retin A as a teenager in the 1970's suffering with acne. I am confident that because of "A" I look younger now than anyone could guess.
Nice. I worked for a dermatologist when Retin A was first formulated. As for the sun DO NOT GO OUT INTO THE SUN (even if it's overcast) unless your skin is covered. Zinc-fabric-wide brimmed hat, Etc. Skin cancer. Remember that? A friend of mine had a little spot of "skin cancer" on her nose and had to have half of her nose removed and then several reconstruction surgeries and of corse not a very good outcome. So if nothing else will persuade you, think about your NOSE! P.S. I have never basked my face in the sun and I have hardly any wrinkles.....And a NOSE!
Sweet Tater Pie this video was pure negligence. I’m in Australia summer winter it’s sunscreen everyday UVA/UVB 50+++ the minimum is SPF 30. Too many melanoma checks as kids, older adults getting skin cut out of their face...Vitamin A is not going to help that! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAqRMr47KWk.html
I love this video. I watch it and continue to watch it regularly. To date this is one of your most informative videos made. Great job Nadine!! Please keep video/ interviews like this coming. I am an esthetician and this video is so on point 👌 🥰🥰🥰😘😘😘
Amy Taylor Where do you live Amy? Looking up Environ’s site, it was difficult to identify how you can buy it in the UK. Was a little confused with product description.
Very, very informative and the oral vitamin A advice. I had always been advised against taking a lot of A because the way it remains in the body. Well, duh! Why did I not think of this!
What a thought provoking video! Now there are questions swimming in my head.... like how do I find out what kind of Sun rays I have, how to decide dosage of Vit. A and for consumption of Vit. A how much... can't wait for part 2.
Nadine, I remember you saying how much you liked mineral foundation. Do you still use it and which one? Please can you advise...How is it best to prep skin for it. I love my Bare Minerals but sometimes my skin looks dry. My skin can tend to be on the dehydrated side - what product or products could help me please so I can continue using my Minerals? Thankyou.
I find his views about Vitamin A really interesting. Unfortunately after 4 years of continuous prescription retinol use I am just not experiencing the positive effects he describes. I don’t have any negative effects apart from my skin looking flat but my pores are still gunked up and massive, my oil production not particularly improved. I would love him to take a look at my face.
@@caryngreyvenstein5574 they are sold at Sorbet salons nationwide and you can earn clicks points so it's a bonus. Some salons sell it as well but I don't know any in jhb ( I'm from cape town) so Sorbet is probably the easiest to find
Hi Nadine, would love to know your opinion on products such as Neal's Yard remedies clear skin formula which you take orally/drink mixed with water, do you think there is any truth in them curing acne, or do you believe vitamin supplements can help acne, would love to know your thoughts many thanks
Great video! I don’t get what broad antioxidant means in a practical sense. I know we should use vitamin C and other antioxidants under spf but I would love it if you could elaborate on this. Thks
Wow Nadine this is such an interesting and informative video...i follow a Dermatologist from Australia who advocates using rentinol products in addition to Trentinion..we've gotton a good education today👍love to you darling💖
Lisa Bafundo there’s no denying Vitamin A I use it too that’s not a theory it does work, he’s been using it for over 20 years! The stupidity of disregarding the effects of UVB (sunburn leading to altered DNA and cancer cells) and not using a UVA/UVB sunscreen was shocking. www.skincancer.org/prevention/uva-and-uvb
Infra red light / heat is good for the skin,small doses infra red light is great for your health look at the infra red heat massages / heat lamps they have great benefits for your health.
Confused: vit A helps protect against the sun? How is that possible we are always told that if we use a retinol or any vit A we MUST wear sunscreen. Can someone please clarify this?
I wear a mineral spf every day under make-up! If I understand Dr. Des correctly, it does not protect my skin against UV light????? I am confussed ..... I have learned that retinos will break down in UV light, so only use in the evening...
Really interesting to listen to but I get so confused on exactly what to use and when! I’m 53 and have noticed changes to my skin! If Dr Fernandez wants any guinea pigs to try out the treatment I’m here!
Is there a product that just protects from uva, and would that be safer than those with uvb as well? Or is it vitamin a that acts as a uva filter? I’m confused, but I will add that confusion is an old friend. Thanks to you both!😘🙏
Vitamin A is the best UVA protector once you've used it long enough and in different formulations to trigger as many diverse deeper layer skin receptors. And moderate application of sunscreen with reliable/tested UVA filters.
Such an interesting video! Thank you! Never used their products but interesting nevertheless. Love such a casual environment as the car and not an office! And yes, as others said you are absolutely gorgeous!
This was so incredibly informative, thank you as always nadine. Nadine I was wondering if mineral makeup would count as mineral sunscreen ? I’m guessing so. Thanks
Uhm I am not so sure for 2 reasons. The first is that mineral makeup should contain both titanium dioxide and zinc xxx (in this moment i don't remember the complete name) and more important in the "right" percentage to protect the skin. The second, assuming that the first doubt is resolved, is that you should probably put an enormous amount of mineral makeup to obtain the same protection of an spf cream. It is the same for the foundations with spf, even theose with high spf. To get the right protection you should use a great quantity but clearly it is not possible
What is broad-spectrum antioxidant?! I would love to know more about this? I seriously hate Spf and I would love to know more about protecting my skin this way. I stay out of the sun especially my face. Btw Nadine, in natural light your skin is absolutely glorious!! X
Rebecca Sankey because some Antioxidants actually block UVB (by decreasing redness/burning & inflammation by 100%) ,if u are interested read the description for superoxide dismutase saccharide mist
Rebecca Sankey antioxidants reduce redness which UVB rays cause globally. But all UV is radiation so the redness is nothing because the radiation penetrates the derma and changes your DNA. This leads to melanoma or skin cancer. If you dislike the feel of sunscreen try Bioré Watery Essence SPF 50++++ it’s on Amazon. It’s Japanese they make the best you will never feel it on, it can be patted over makeup because it is like an essence. I use Vit A but the only real anti ageing product is sunscreen UVA/UVB. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAqRMr47KWk.html
Rebecca Sankey I’ve converted every SPF hater with this one! The Japanese value skincare and white skin, their sunscreens are full protection so the formula is important to blend into the skin without interrupting your skincare or makeup. It’s about £8 for two.
i like the doctor but i’ve seen recent videos and my parents are around what i believe his age is in 2020 (late 70s) and both have much better skin than he does - and that’s despite my dad doing literally nothing to his face but washing it with body soap once a day. so with all due respect i don’t think what the dr proposes really works. i do agree with some things he says though like the fact that we don’t need uvb protection during seasons or in places where the uvb index is low.
Ooooo I say lol ,does this mean I could mix my differin on different days to Paula’s choice 1% that has been taking my fancy since you showed it Nadine xxx
A brilliant interview, thank you Nadine! Environ products have an amazing strategy using vitamin A, the building up strategy to avoid retinol reaction, but I am wondering why Dr Fernandez still uses mineral oils in his products? It would be interesting to interview also Dr Hans Lautenschlager (dermaviduals, Germany) and Dr Lance Setterfield (expert in microneedling, Canada)
You are a terrible interviewer Nadine. This man is so interesting but you just interrupt at all times. Such a shame when it would have been great to listen to this pioneer and get so much information 😪
tara20394ox Definitely better than previous videos but there were still several times he was interrupted where I wanted to hear what he was about to say but he didn’t get to finish.
Here are my thoughts on IR light - in short sharp bursts it can be healing, just like laser and IPL, but it is chronic long term exposure to IR light and heat that is so damaging. So therapeutic devices expose the skin in a short, sharp, acute controlled manner ... delivering just the right amount of energy to work within the skin. This is not like the daily, year on year exposure that Dr Des is speaking about here. X
