Busting Super Nintendo Myths, Part 1 - SNESdrunk 

Exactly! They are obviously just pretending to care!! They don't give two shits if you get struck by lightning tomorrow or get hit by a bus... because all they give a shit about is wishing you a great REST of your day.. Fuggin insane and pompous af!

slots too, I fucking wish they would make a yugioh slot machine

it could have sick bonuses too like exodia. I would spend all my money playing it lmao

"No! It's called HA-GA-NE" "PA-CHIN-KO? I heard pachinko. How many do you need?"

"HAGANE! Let me spell you letter by letter: H-A-G-A-N-E !" Konami customer support operator:"Mhm, I see, hold on a minute, so that I check more in-depth about the entry in question. Do not hang up yet" "Sure" ........................................ Konami operator: "Thanks for waiting. I got bad news for you, mister" "So you don't have any data regarding how many units of this game were produced and distributed overseas?" Konami operator: "Mister, I fear that that our company has NOT manufactured any pachinko machine of Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (Full Metal Alchemist). Konami does not hold the rights for that IP" * facepalms and grunts *

@Christopher Light And if you push the conversation further, the call center wire you to Konami headquarters as they think you want to purchase the rights for a microtransaction mobile game's distribution 😂 That moment when you chuckle nervously but cry deep inside.

So Daniele you're saying it's like telephone? Or religion?

Shaq Fu has awesome animations and is much more playable than many other terrible games.

i haven't got the chance to play shaq fu jet (even if i'm collecting second-hand snes games since almost 12 years ago they are pretty hard to find, specially since the collectionism boom started here 10 years ago), but i highly doubt that its that bad, compared with stuff like street combat, pit-fighter or ballz (the last one i actually have it and man, it is BAD). X'D

Shaq Fu was a wasted weekend. Not being the worst doesn't make a good game.

@@PhillipCummingsUSA of course, but it doesn't make it "the worst ever". if that's a title for a snes i think it is reserved to the pit fighter port, or personally, Ballz,

Ed Cole lmao! I’m going to start doing this

THANK YOU FOR THE IDEA!

I am so copying this.

IT'S AS IF YOUR EMAIL HAS INTERRUPTED THEIR OTHERWISE FINE DAY FOR A MOMENT.....

HAGROYD club holla

Thank you! More people need to understand this.

That’s VERY true!!!

Wouldn't you want eBay sellers to know that? Maybe then the prices would get adjusted

Yeah, some ebayers say everything is rare and their stained water damage box and manual is "good" condition...

It does! Now go to my ebay page and buy my rare loose copy of mario 64! Lol

Interesting!

Does that mean the development was halted suddenly and they shipped the cartridge to ride the Final Fight thunder as long as it was there? Or was it just because of a sloppy conversion with no quality control? It could not have been a problem of available memory...

I'm suspecting that a lot of the problem with the missing level had to do with some of the stuff that SNES Drunk mentions, specifically, the slowdown. Keep in mind that the original Final Fight came out REALLY early in the SNES life cycle, where people really hadn't figured out the system's capabilities yet, and it shows in a lot of their titles. Final Fight was a BIG offender in the slowdown department, and I imagine it was kept one player because the slowdown is nuts even when you only have one player and three enemies on screen. And I think that they couldn't get the Industrial Area to run at even a vaguely tolerable speed on the SNES. Remember a few things about that stage: The first part of the stage has a fairly lengthy part at the beginning where you've constantly got flame sprites flickering in and out of existence, and LOTS of them - I remember that even the arcade game had a little trouble with this one based on my own time playing. With the SNES version running as slowly as it was even before adding the flames, adding that many sprites at once would've almost certainly done very unkind things to the playing experience. Then, there's Round 4-2, which is an entirely vertical-scrolling level, which no other section of the game tries to do, and I'm wondering if Capcom was having trouble getting that to run in the early SNES days... not to mention the boss, Rolento, whose entire gimmicks involve moving REALLY quickly to the point of leaving afterimages that would have to be rendered, AND throwing shit-tons of grenades around during the second phase of the fight, all of which would require active sprites, see the issues with the flames in 4-1. This all said, I have no idea why they didn't try to patch some of this up with Final Fight Guy. Final Fight 2 proved that they were able to get basically everything I mention regarding 4-2 working right, and Final Fight Guy doesn't look like it came out THAT far before 2 for them to only figure it out in the interim.

Well, I'm sure the rom-hacking communities could do something about that in some fashion.

@@YukaTakeuchiFan So, basically, someone wrote the entire script for the scrapped stage, with the acquired knowledge it can't possibly run smoothly in the current state of things? There's no specific hidden sprite allocated to this stage, located by data miners? I wonder if the graphics ever existed at one point, now. I feel bad for the programmer's hard work wasted in vain.

I'd do that were I a CEO.

While petting a cat in his lap.

i forgive you, but the real question is can you forgive yourself?

I remember Stuttering Craig saying something about that in a Screw Attack video years ago. That was the first I heard it. So blame Lying Craig.

After 3 years, I MIGHT be able to forgive you. Still hurts, man...

It's been four years and I'm ready to forgive you.

Yeah, I knew a guy like your friend. His story was always "my game glitched one time and this awesome thing happened!" My favorite was playing as General Leo through all of FF6. There actually was a Game Genie code to play as the bosses in SF2, but it was super glitchy.

Skip forward a couple of generations and you've got people talking about dirty video sequences in DOA2

MrNegativecreep07 lol how true. i remember some kid talking about 4 player contra on the NES

@@jeffersonjjohnson And then they made DOA Xtreme, and it came true!

Lots of great mortal kombat myths from back in the day... My favorite one was the rumor that you could play as the guy who was on fire on the bridge in the background......... This eventually led to the character Blaze being created in real life.

... Saturn .... 😿

Too bad there was about a 2 second delay on the controls. Oh and they deliberately gimped the SNES version because of some Sega deal.

BobbyBaboon Shaw fu is in no way a classic, but the animation and background detail were quite good. As for the Sega deal. It’s not true. Some developers choose to develop Mega drive first and port to SNES and sometimes the other way around. It’s depending on circumstance, but they try to deliver the best possible on both, and reality is less sinister.

What you're saying doesn't really apply, as the SNES and Genesis versions were released at the same time, by the same publisher. The SNES version had fewer playable characters, fewer stages, and lacked the soundtrack CD that came with the Genesis version. I can't find it on the internet, but I remember reading in either GamePro or EGM back in the day that Sega had some sort of exclusive deal with the publisher to make their version bigger.

BobbyBaboon I think Shan Fu was an EA release and EA treated Sega better because they could use their cartridge instead of the proprietary one made by Sega so EA could make more money from a Sega release than a SNES one. That could explain some things. I think with earthworm Jim and and Mickey Mania, I think those games looked better on the Mega Drive because the developers just knew the machine better, so made it on that first, ported to SNES later, but both came out same time. The SNES has a bunch of games that were better on the Mega Drive. Losing out on Shaq Fu isn’t the worst thing ever

The only problem with the character sprites is that they aren't "reaching" enough due to their little size. It makes the fights full of awkward hit or miss (not as bad as in Tongue of the Fatman on the Sega Genesis, though). the playability and power scale balancing between fighters aren't exactly top notch either. If it were all fixed, it'd be an average fighter, well forgotten behind a mysterious Chinaman's counter... And Delphine Software wouldn't have bitten the dust so hard, too.

the market regulates itself dude, in both games and all other facets. (NYSE, NASDAQ, ect)

I remember a guy got mad at me over a non-priced listing of some cart only games. He listed them as "make me an offer" rather than setting a starting price. I made him a low-ball offer based on what I have seen bare carts go for and he got upset because it wasn't the speculator fortune he wanted. @Lassi The funny thing about collecting, real collecting, is that real collectors don't do that shit; only speculators do that kind of thing. Collecting is about adding value to your collection, not size. No real collector goes for completeness across the board; they look for ways to build an important but limited collection. In game collecting, that might mean collecting just one company's output or a single genre. However, quality and value (both monetary and historic) factor into collecting. If one of those poor titles does not add to a collection, a real collector would just ignore it.

@@SuperNintendoZach Does it though? Why are games priced the way they are in general? Why did everyone just arbitrarily decide that Earthbound is worth $150 about 10 or so years ago when I was able to buy it for $30 about 15 years ago? Why is the Earthbound cart still over $150 yet you can buy it on the Nintendo eShop for like $10 and its on the SNES classic? I believe these prices are being manipulated and held where they are by the people who have bought themselves into the market with these games

@Lassi Kinnunen I don't buy these overpriced games. Anyone who pays $200 for Hagane or Castlevania: Dracula X are fools. I do agree that people going for full collections do have an effect on the prices. The super "rare" stadium events that is worth thousands of dollars is just a label variant FFS

@@ScooterinAB I've had the same issues too. Especially at garage sales. No sir, your disc only copy of Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 is not worth $40, that is a coaster

I actually have an old issue of EGM2 with a Hagane ad. You're right, there was no mention of Blockbuster.

Yes! I remember that as well! A classic myth

Yeah, you could buy it from Nordic Games here in Sweden, so I very much doubt the assertion it's a Blockbuster Only.

@@jensaversjo316 Damn.. I miss good ol Nordic Games

Aaron Wrotkowski This is true.

@@SideBurn12 I do too. When I was a kid I frequented the original store quite often. Even got to try a Virtual Boy there.

Jens Aversjö Same here! Was also the place I first tried the Snes. I was completely sold at first glance.

There's no doubt about it. Even from the earliest days of "retro" RU-vid channels, if one got to the trending videos list (or whatever they called it back then I don't remember) that game shot up in price. It's not his fault, but AVGN helped to jack the price of many games. To this day there are "rare" games whose price is still inflated due to old ass RU-vid videos, despite there being many copies of them in the wild.

@@jokerzwild00 Yeah exactly, it seems the factor governing prices for retro games is popularity not rarity.

@@Randhrick Oh yeah, how else do you explain multi-million sellers like the original Pokemon games and Super Smash Bros. Melee selling at the prices they do? People are so willing to let themselves be ripped off, I don't get it. At least if it's a super cult game that doesn't have many copies for sale at one time and only appeals to a hardcore niche demographic, I can understand it.

No it's pretty bad as is. The shaq tie in is the least of its problems. The biggest problem is that it was designed under the impression that more animation frames make a fighting game better. They don't even a little.

Shaq's name on the game is the only reason I wasted time on that clunky junk.

Changing titles from "TOP GAMES" to "My Favorite Games" and "Worst" to "Games I dislike" would resolve some of the issue. But that's not going to happen.

What other bullshit is floating around out there?

... But this is titled part 1... Has part II been released yet? Can't find it yet ...

- just found the rest of the trilogy ... Busting (and Confirming)

He was fighting a virus at the time, I guess he'll be back to his old self soon :D

So much potential, even more suck.

My fiance and I have playe both hard corps and alien wars through to the end both of us find ourselves playing hard corps more than alien wars these days...

after i play hard corps i'll get back to you on that lucky for you contra 3 is a pretty high bar

Yeah; Hard Corps is better

I love Mega Man and all but Mega Man Soccer was a pretty abysmal soccer game.

Worst comment yet!

@Will The Hatter I agree. I've heard plenty of people say that E.T on Atari 2600 is the "worst game ever", which I personally think is a bit extreme. I've played it, and sure it wasn't particularly good, but come on there's far worse games than that. What annoys me even more are those idiots who will believe any of the BS without playing the game for themselves.

Will The Hatter Yep, it’s a bothersome trait regardless of where it is used: www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/09/13

Would you say... Hyperboles are the worst thing ever?

Taking hyperbole literally is highly idiotic.

and it would be nice if it weren't so damn expensive either.

@@derek-64 Go for the Japanese import, should run you half of what an English copy costs or less, not that that isn't still a lot of money. As a bonus, you get the sick box art in full though.

@@Gantann no dice. for one, i don't have a super famicom. two, my snes is unmodded, as is, and i prefer to have it that way. the one thing i have considered is modding my snes classic.

@@Gantann and it's STILL very expensive.

@@derek-64 I'm not super familiar with region lockout on SNES, but I think using a Game Genie or similar as a pass through adapter would be enough to get JP imports working on your console.

Link?

I concur.

how did u come to that conclusion from this video? the rarity of the item is not in dispute, only its origin.

@@SuperNintendoZach I didnt, but it is a confirmation of sorts that many people thinkl the same thing.

I think a lot of it has to do with games journalism of the time either using incorrect or out of date information or bad Japanese translations. Plus some gaming magazines just made stuff up. Kids reading it treat it like fact, and in the pre-WWW days it was almost impossible to fact check stuff like that

Thanks for watching Kenneth

Wow I have never heard that one

It was a throw glitch. There is footage on RU-vid. Legit or not, I can't say...

@DejaVoodooDoll Nice. I knew I wasn't going crazy lol.

Also from what I’ve heard, sports games ran better on the Genesis. A friend told me they were always slow on the SNES.

@@tkdguy5494 The Genesis had a faster CPU. It was easier to programm more action (like in this case charakters in a sports game, but also very well known regarding shoot'm up's) on screen with a reasonable fast playing speed. That doesn't necessarly mean that the SNES couldn't do the same, but it was much simpler for programmers to make use of that additional calculation power of the Genesis. SNES programmes had to make some extra efforts to compensate for that disadvantage. Skilled SNES programmers could reacht the same level, or even surpass that, while making use of some of the SNES unique advantages (sound, colour, etc.), but they had to go some extra miles to actualy accomplish that. But in a business, where time means money, fast developed and quick game release dates were a thing. It also helps, that screen resolution was in favor with Genesis games. Many sports games make use of that and it usually adds to the experience. Many sports games on the SNES and Genesis library in the west were made by EA. EA is very well known for it's staff of good Genesis programmers, but their SNES skills were horrible in comparison. These guys never bothered to fine tune their products on the SNES, like many others did.