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The Batman does speak Spanish. Batman is a language learner. And he's Batman... The Batman speaks Spanish.
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As I edited this video I realised that Estonian seems to follow this Batman actor around. Tell me in the comments: What other film was the actor who played Batman in, where he plays a character who is supposed to speak Estonian?

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@daysandwords Год назад

I normally talk about language learning but if you want to hear me talk about movies more, I do so on this channel: ru-vid.com/show-UCQNDd8k9rnbJDPaleJ-fHBw Thanks for watching!

@RasmusKarlJensen Год назад

Canonically, Batman is supposed to be able to speak at least a dozen different languages because he’s the world’s greatest detective and knowing many languages is great for detectivizing!

@daysandwords Год назад

Exactly. Also, not to perpetuate a stereotype but surely fighting crime in the States would involve some Spanish! And lots of English and other languages.

@RasmusKarlJensen Год назад

@@daysandwords Bane speaks Spanish. Now that you mention it, Batman knew that bruja was Spanish for witch in that Arkham: Asylum game.

@EriniusT Год назад

I watched Batman Begins the other day and he was travelling all over the world and living among criminals in different places, it really does make sense for him to be multilingual

@daysandwords Год назад

@@EriniusT Yeah, in Begins he speaks Japanese briefly, now that you mention it.

@Giraffinator Год назад

speaks russian in the Justice League cartoon.

@jillvslangs Год назад

“It’s much closer to Finnish… and Heptopod” I laughed WAY too hard at that throwaway joke omg 🤣

@vanessameow1902 Год назад

💀💀same

@PewPewPlasmagun Год назад

It was highbrow comedy admittedly but not correct obviously so I am not sure how to take the joke.

@daysandwords Год назад

I'm not aware of any history of jokes needing to be correct. How could it ever be correct that a human language is closer to an alien language than another human one?

@matt92hun Год назад

@@daysandwords As a fluent Heptopod squiggler I can confirm that Estonian is nothing like Russian.

@jillvslangs Год назад

@@PewPewPlasmagun it’s a joke that works because of its “incorrectness” 😅 he’s using exaggeration to create the Humor. Of course it’s not true that it’s closer to a non-existent Alien language - but that’s what makes it funny. Heptopod here is basically a stand in for “it’s really damn hard and complicated / feels impossible to figure out” - but if he’d simply added that description to the sentence instead of “it’s close to Heptopod” there would be no joke at all now, would there? 🤣 If by “correct” you mean that the language isn’t all that difficult (for YOU) then you need to factor in that perceived language difficulty changes depending on which languages you are familiar with plus a bunch of other things and is highly subjective. So the joke could still somewhat “objectively” be humorous to you if you put yourself in the speakers perspective, even if, for you personally, it’s not “correct” 😊 Make sense? Eek I hope I didn’t sound to patronising, it’s not meant that way, I’m really just explaining my opinion, no attack or offense meant ♥️

@MrSalas Год назад

I thought the same. There is NO WAY Batman doesn't know AT LEAST the basic articles in Spanish. Like, C'MON. The Spanish version is VERY AWKWARD too. Everybody forgot they're speaking Spanish, lmao.

@daysandwords Год назад

Haha... yeah, there's a French linguist who comments on all of my videos and he and I have been discussing what the various dubbed versions of shows do about the "language problem". e.g. I'm not sure if you know the show "Community" - but the entire first seasons revolves around some Americans taking a Spanish class (and being terrible at Spanish). And I found that in the Latin American version, they're taking an English class. (I checked one day just out of interest.) That would make so much of the series super hard to do, since they're clearly in the USA, but I guess the dubbing team decided it was the smoothest solution. That linguist guy lives in Spain and he also said that they'd actually "remastered" the text on the floor when Bruce is trying to solve all the Riddler's clues, so that they're in Spanish. I have seen that increasingly in dubs, as it becomes easier to digitally edit stuff like that, e.g. kids shows in Swedish, but they're actually from the USA and they've changed all the signs in the school that the show is set in etc.

@MrSalas Год назад

@@daysandwords Yup! I have seen that show. Didn't watch the Spanish dub but I recall that episode. And yes, they did edit the movie so that some text would be in Spanish. It didn't work too well in this movie but it was SO GOOD in Joker. I recall the brief scene of his notebook being ALL in Spanish. It's hit and miss. Disney has always done this for their animated movies. Another curious happening was in Toy Story 3 when Buzz location/voice is changed to Spanish. In the latin American dub he is changed to Spaniard Spanish. In the european Spanish dub he is changed to the Andaluz accent and it's freaking hilarious.

@Alex-my4ir Год назад

He's back! Great to see a new video after a while my friend.

@theother2166 Год назад

El hombre murciélago

@Koospa Год назад

Return of the king! Really missed your uploads

@SupremeDP Год назад

Lol Bruce skipped spanish class?

@spanishblueprints Год назад

Great video, that was a great plot point to touch on. I busted out laughing non-step over the grammar error/clue that the Penguin mentioned. It was pretty insane that this clue was incredibly important to remember even up to the very last scene. Now, we all know to just learn Spanish articles. We may need them for an important case someday. 🤣

@Speedy1SonicBoy Год назад

Finally, somebody says something about a part of Batman portrayals that bothered me. Batman is supposed to be a massive polyglot in canon, but it's barely, if ever, portrayed... ever.

@k.5425 Год назад

Yessss, dude is supposed to be multilingual. Like this shouldn't have been an issue/plot point

@Stephanie-gv8rh Год назад

I always enjoy your perspectives on things. You should do more like these!

@daysandwords Год назад

Thank you!

@Luka-zq6kt Год назад

Love your videos by watching your and some other channels I got inspired to start learning languages. Right now I have Italian and in my highschool program and I am learning French and Swedish by myself.

@learning2fall88 Год назад

I like this kind of content. Please make more of this content! :)

@Tighris Год назад

When something like this happens in movies, I always think about the spanish subbed version that runs in movie theaters in spanish speaking countries. (if there is one). How will they make this work?

@daysandwords Год назад

So do I... and there are really interesting examples, like Community, in which the whole series revolves around a Spanish study group... except that in the Spanish one, it's an English study group! So presumably they can never bring up the fact that they are in the USA... and clearly all American? It's super weird haha. I haven't seen the Spanish one myself but when I saw that Spanish was a language option I checked just that detail.

@bofbob1 Год назад

They kept it the same and everybody in the theater laughed during the reveal. What was really weird is that they translated on-screen writing into Spanish. Like Bruce writing on the floor, that was directly in Spanish... in a subbed version where everyone is speaking English... So Bruce sucks at Spanish, but apparently he can write it just fine. ^^ For Community, from what I remember they kept it as a Spanish study group, and a lot of jokes were lost as a result. But that was the European Spanish version. The Lat Am version might be different, which would explain what Lamont is saying.

@daysandwords Год назад

At least in the first episode of the Latin American Spanish one, it's an English study group because there's a bit where Britta says "OK can you say that in Spanish right now then?" (trying to call Jeff out on his BS) and he says "Pleased to chicken nugget don't scratch my car" or something, and in the Spanish audio (I now remember that I switched over just to see what they did there), he literally says those words but in English, whereas in the original he says that... but in Spanish. I'm sure you get what I mean.

@bofbob1 Год назад

@@daysandwords I just realized I have both versions on Netflix. In the one marked as "Spanish", it switches to English like you said. In the one marked as "European Spanish", they stick to Spanish. Go figure. Not sure which one makes more sense tbh. Kind of an impossible problem. Switching to English probably allows for more jokes to be translated though. A few others that come to mind: - in the French dub of Friends, Phoebe teaches Joey Spanish instead of French. That one works fine, since nothing hinges on what language he's learning. - the "Muskatnuss, Herr Müller!" scene in Le Grand Restaurant. In the original French, de Funès switches to German, since he's talking to a German officer. In the German dub, they just have him change tone and use a louder, more authoritative voice when the Hitler 'stache shows up. It's still kind of funny, but not nearly as much as the French version. Now I'm wondering if there's an English dub of La Grande Vadrouille and, if so, how they handled the bathhouse scene. "Comment ça "merde alors"? But alors you are French!" ^^

@aviztar Год назад

Both Bruce and Alfred notice that the riddle is grammatically incorrect. They just belived it was a mistake on the part of the Riddler. Also the girl can have an Estonian passport, but be Russian - there are Russians that have dual passports -, or an Estonian citizen of Russian descent - which are about a quarter of the population.

@daysandwords Год назад

Batman is only TOLD it's incorrect. He doesn't know what is incorrect about it, because as soon as he learns specifically what that is, he figures it out. If he had thought to ask Alfred what the problem was, then he would have known. There is no evidence in the film to support the idea that Bruce knows it should be "la".

@aviztar Год назад

@@daysandwords We're never told how good or bad his spanish is. Besides, Alfred does point out what the mistake is - the line is easy to miss, but it's there. He figures it out after Penguin tells him it's wrong because that's the first time he thinks to himself that the error might be intentional

@daysandwords Год назад

@@aviztar What are Alfred's words when he points out what the mistake is? All I remember is "I'm afraid his Spanish isn't perfect"... I'm just not seeing any evidence for Bruce knowing exactly what the error was, and therefore concluding that he doesn't really know much Spanish. Anyone proficient in Spanish would see it straight away and wonder if there was something more there. Look how quickly Bruce picks up the other riddles, e.g. "He lies still."

@acampos8422 Год назад

Welcome back!!!

@bananabs3624 Год назад

Can you please review Falou because I can’t decide between it and Speakly, they both look sooooo good and i thought that it would help if you did a review.

@trevorguy63 Год назад

YAY NEW VIDEO

@mariajohnson2294 Год назад

Arrival is one of my favorite films ever!! Never gets old. I think about it everyday.

@daysandwords Год назад

Have you read the story/book? It's so different, and satisfying in a totally different way. One of my top 3 movie/book combos.

@jamestandy8594 Год назад

Now I'm curious what the other 2 are.

@daysandwords Год назад

@@jamestandy8594 "Perfume" and "The Silence of the Lambs". Perfume is my favourite book but I actually thought the movie did an amazing job (the Tom Tykwer one, not the stupid series).

@Im__Gavin Год назад

Personally I never understood the criticism that Bruce doesn’t know Spanish because in the Batcave scene with Alfred, he did understand that Rata Alada meant rat with wings, and related it to a stool pigeon. I thought the plot line was about him not realizing that Riddler deliberately made a mistake with his grammar, and it took The Penguin pointing it out for it to click in his mind.

@daysandwords Год назад

Yes you're right, he does know "rata alada" means rat with wings, but that doesn't mean he knew that it was "la" and not "el". I feel that it's way way way more likely that he's only got very basic spanish (you only need to know alada, and "rata" is obvious) and therefore doesn't know that it's el and not la, whereas any decent Spanish speaker would see the error straight away and since he knows that Riddler does stuff like that deliberately, he would see the answer immediately. Like I've said to others, the specific nature of the error needed to be pointed out to him. Alfred doesn't believe the gender could be important so he doesn't mention it, Bruce just doesn't know to begin with. I don't know who is "criticising" the film for implying that Bruce doesn't speak Spanish... I didn't see any such criticism, it just struck me in the cinema that a "real life" Bruce Wayne would have known that.

@k.5425 Год назад

What I find strange is that...technically Bruce/Batman is supposed to be multilingual(with all his training and traveling aroundthe world and whatnot) , so this shouldn't have even been a plot point issue.

@echinas0908 Год назад

@@daysandwords I'm quite late into the conversation, but as a mexican I too didn't realize the mistake at first. Not because I'm dumb, but here you could say "El rata" and be correct about the gender. I've seen it various times since "rata" could also mean robber, so "El rata" would mean "The (masculine) robber" which would actually be logical when talking about the penguin.

@matthewwarbington4125 11 месяцев назад

just because you can speak the lauange mabye batman does not feel like it unless he really needs too

@harrykatsaros Год назад

It was a poorly scripted bit with the Penguin that made Batman look like he didn’t know, when he obviously did because Alfred had already told him anyway. The idea was supposed to be that he just didn’t pay attention to the grammatical mistake until Penguin pointed it out, which prompted him to realise that it can’t just be a mistake because nothing Riddler does is not intentional.

@daysandwords Год назад

Yes, I got that... But this script suggests quite strongly that Bruce himself didn't know that it was a mistake. He just heard that "his Spanish is a little rusty" or however Alfred said it.

@spanishblueprints Год назад

It was beyond hilarious, it was quite clear that Bruce didn't know. Hence. other characters having to point it out lol. I wonder where they got this idea from. I wish they made more language jokes.

@johnnyprencipe696 Год назад

i don't care about movies at all and this video still hooked me. good job Lamont.

@emmanuelgoldstein9193 Год назад

There is a mistake in the title of the video. In Spanish, “sí”(where there is an (acute) accent placed over the letter ‘i’(making it ‘í’)) means “yes” in English, and the Spanish word “si”(where there is NO (acute) accent placed over the letter ‘i’) means “if” in English. Thus, what the title of the video really translates to (from Spanish to English) is: “if, ( I ) speak Spanish.” Whilst, the translation of the phrase (from English to Spanish) “yes, I speak Spanish.” Is spelt : “Sí, hablo español.”

@daysandwords Год назад

That's actually the thumbnail, not the title. But also, it wasn't a mistake. I wanted to use that font, and that font had no í, that is to say, it was not capable of making that letter, so it appears instead in a different font and looks completely bizarre. Since I don't speak any Spanish and just got the translation from Google, and everyone knows I don't speak Spanish (channel name is there to help any newcomers haha) - I didn't think anyone would care.

@k.5425 Год назад

I certainly didn't care because I knew what you were saying.(I'm an intermediate spanish learner) Besides, a lotttt of spanish natives make "mistakes" when it comes to accents. But I guess it's always good to know the correct versión first before going out into the wild and learning the wrong ones.

@thomi_hilfigner Год назад

As far as I know Gotham is basically New York but "generic", right?

@ADHDlanguages Год назад

Yes, Gotham is an old nickname for NYC that was picked up by the Batman comics.

@daysandwords Год назад

Yeah but you have to scrounge really hard in all Batman material to find any reference to where that city actually is. Like, there's never any talk of going to Philadelphia or Baltimore or even how far away it is from one coast or the other. It's obviously New York but at the same time, not at all any city.

@ADHDlanguages Год назад

@@daysandwords yeah that's a pretty good way of describing it.

@spanishblueprints Год назад

Pretty sad that Batman fights crime in Gotham AKA New York and doesn't pick up Spanish.

@ADHDlanguages Год назад

@@spanishblueprints well, he's from a rich family so they probably had him learning German or something. One of those language prestige things.

@centuryfiles9558 Год назад

It’s funny because it’s not super complicated Spanish either.

@daysandwords Год назад

Well that's Penguin's point. "It's like the woist spanish I ever hoid..."

@jasonfredensborg7646 Год назад

is the answer to the trivia question "Tennet"?

@daysandwords Год назад

Yep. But only one N. 👍 Good job!

@jasonfredensborg7646 Год назад

Do you need my address to send me my prize?? 😀

@KC-vq2ot Год назад

It is really sad, how people dismiss language in their world-building You can say a lot about a person just from the way they speak. Your accent betrays that you are Australian just as mine betrays that I come form Eastern Europe. My vague accent betrays that I had more resources to allocate to learning a language then my neighbours, who speak with strong regional accent or can barely build a sentence. Even occupation may become obvious just from distinctions people make. Weight and mass may be the same to you, but not to physicists On the other hand it just makes exporting harder I can remember at least a dozen cases where something was broken by the language One that comes to mind is "The Ultimates 2", where mystery about who is the traitor would be broken on the first page, because you would have to address said traitor as a woman in my native language (and many other European languages as well)

@gr3saeyend Год назад

Bro alfred literally says riddlers spanish isnt perfect. Bruce just saw it as an oversight

@daysandwords Год назад

It's very clear that Bruce doesn't speak Spanish because as SOON as he knows that SPECIFICALLY it shouldn't say "EL", he figures it out. Like literally within 30 seconds. You're telling me that he knew exactly the Spanish mistake that was made but just suddenly thought of it when Penguin brings it up? Yeah... nah. Yes I'm aware that Alfred says "his Spanish is not perfect" but that doesn't mean Bruce speaks Spanish... the evidence isn't there to support that take.

@sicko_the_ew Год назад

Does listening to news clips in German, and wondering what they're talking about count? If not, I'd better try another strategy, I think. Although there's something to be said for listening to German news clips and trying to guess what the news might be, today, too. And proper sentences. Too. Obviously.

@daysandwords Год назад

It definitely counts.

@mihaineagu1153 Год назад

Yay

@muttlanguages3912 Год назад

Believe the consensus, if there is one, is that Gotham is New York at night and Metropolis is New York in the day. So Bryce should be surrounded by French and Spanish and a hundred of other languages daily.

@daysandwords Год назад

Yeah... while Gotham is fairly obviously NY, it's also nothing. Like I wrote in a different comment, it's location within the States is never discussed at all. They keep it deliberately vague.

@discostewpid Год назад

Woah... Deeep :)

@eeeee323 Год назад

🌸🙌🤠🌈es bueno saberlo

@learning2fall88 Год назад

I am jealous of people who can speak more than one language! :)

@sicut-lux-aurorae Год назад

I don’t think that, generally speaking, a person coming from old money in the US would see a lack of Spanish as a gap in their education. While Spanish is extremely common, there’s not a sense of prestige to it that the upper crust would automatically be expected to have it in their educational background.

@daysandwords Год назад

Yeah that's fair, but if you've seen the movie, you know that this particular Bruce is a get-his-hands-dirty kind of guy. Alfred disapproves of his obsession with fighting crime and Bruce has no interest in seeing accountants or anyone that has anything to do with the old Waynes, if you get me. Also, I did miss that Bruce actually DOES know what the phrase means, but his Spanish isn't good enough to pick up on the nature of the clue.

@Legorreta.M.D Год назад

0:19 It’s wrong. The paper reads “El rata alada” (the winged rat”. “El” being spanish for “the”, but in Spanish, rat is feminine. Even if Batman is a man, you respect the “la” (feminine article for the rat). I can’t believe Hollywood simply couldn’t be bothered

@daysandwords Год назад

You might wanna watch the movie my dude.

@thomi_hilfigner Год назад

Actually, even though "rata" is normally a femine word in Spain we use it all the time in masculine. Originally to describe a male rat but also it has especific uses, for example "ser UN rata" is to be cheap. What I want to say is that is not necessarilly wrong. But even though in the movie they DO explain why it's used in masculine.

@Legorreta.M.D Год назад

@@daysandwords yes, haven’t been able to do that, unfortunately. Is the La not part of the phrase then?

@daysandwords Год назад

@@Legorreta.M.D Like I said in the video, I won't spoil it, but I'll just say what Batman says about Riddler's clues: "It can't be a mistake, he doesn't make mistakes."

@Legorreta.M.D Год назад

@@daysandwords oh… interesting. Damn it. I really want to watch the thing. Thank you for explaining it without spoilers

@beorlingo Год назад

R/woosh Went right over a boomer's head. Typical case of having a plentiful to say compressing it to less than 4 min. Or of me being stupid. Gosh! Edit: much appreciate the ambition though!

@daysandwords Год назад

Sorry I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

@beorlingo Год назад

@@daysandwords I simply could not follow in detail. Think I got the general idea though, maybe.