You're kidding right, there is nothing i enjoy more than putting on my hi-vis stuff and going out onto the streets and extorting money from gullable twats, anybody can do it, this clip proves it.
@William Gruff To be fair, police need to be paid well or corruption is inevitable, and in this case the police weren't willing to be the lackey's of the litter police, they won't actually arrest you, they've got better things to do.
if you look on the government website on enforcement offices issuing fines you will see they have to ask you to put the litter in the bin before issuing a fine
Excellent work Danny for standing your ground as usual. Thank for highlighting and showing is the police state we are under. The mainstream media are pathetic for not even reporting this! Keep it up!
Just discovered your channel this morning when I woke up feeling miserable. After watching you (and in this particular episode; the cigarette murderer) I feel brilliant. Both of you should work as a double act. Thanks for making me smile again. I hit the subscribe button because you're a lot more entertaining than the "official MSM comedians."
Something similar to this happened to me, Glasgow central train Station 2010, i was standing outside under the staions canopy having a cig before i went for my train. I finished the cig and drop it at my feet and stamped it out and walked inside, 20 seconds later i heard a voice shouting "excuse me sir", i turned round and there were 2 big guys dressed in hi-vis and looked a lot like police but they certainly were not police but acted as though they were. They told me they saw me drop a cig but on the ground and they had to issue me with a £25 spot fine. Almost the same arguement insued as in this clip for the next 20 minutes (and yes they made me miss my train). After 20 minutes of getting nowhere with them i had had enough of them trying to extract my name and address, so just to end the bullshit i gave them the name and address of my number one enemy (an enemy that had caused me grief in the past and he absolutely deserved everything bad he gets in life). They took down the details and gave me a receipt for the fine which had to be paid within 6 months of it being issued. Then i walked away giving them the middle finger and smiled and got the next train. If you are in a situation like this then my advice is give the name and address of your worst enemy.
As someone else said, a lot of people will do anything theyre told by anyone in uniform or a high vis jacket! Words can and are powerful, but only if you allow their words to have power over you! Take that power back, and fight back with the words that are needed and also the SILENCE that is much needed also! Great video Danny, keep them coming!
It's not a crime until you walk away... I've had it before in the past when I was waiting to meet someone. I was early, drinking a coffee and smoking a cigarette, when I noticed a police officer looking in my direction. I threw the butt to the ground, and stood on it. I waited there patiently for 20 minutes (my friend is always late) sipping my coffee. All the while the cop was just waiting to pounce as soon as I walked away. When my friend finally arrived, I opened my coffee cup, picked up the butt, and took it with me. Not forgetting to give a cheeky smile to the copper, knowing he had just wasted nearly 20 minutes of his time :D
What is the world coming to..? What drives people to get a job where they have to go round causing distress and by extorting money from other innocent people?
The guy lost his argument by not making it clear to the officer, that this is a civil and not criminal matter. It is a civil matter between a private company and a private individual. You cannot arrest for a civil matter and the individual does not require to give their details.
WRONG. Littering is a criminal offence under S.87 Environmental Protection Act 1990. Failure to provide your name and address, to an authorised officer is a further criminal offence under S.88(8)(b) of the same Act. If you don't want to get in trouble, don't break the law.
@Britannia UK CASE LAW: Rice vs Connolly [1966] QB414 & [1966] 2 ALLER 649 clearly states when you are doing something legal, you have every right to remain silent & can not be arrested for exercising this right. Also refusing to give your name and address cannot amount to obstructing the police in the course of their duty under s89(2) of the Police Act 1996 but giving a false name and address can.
Danny, thanks it beggars belief that these job worth's are trying to apply acts and know absolutely nothing about the words they sprout, which sounds English but is not, great job.
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If the cigarette wasn't completely extinguished then this was obviously a terroristic arson attack. He's lucky he wasn't shot.
well, yeah, but that experiment isn't as straight forward as it's often made out to be. check out the radiolab episode that features the milligan experiment ;) regardless, i get your point.
2:17 he says he hasn't got the right to detain him, then says he has got the power under civil law. I personally have no power to detain him for my job. The bloke contradicted himself 3 times.
Excellent work , Danny . Do you find it easier standing up for others who are being victimised by bullying thugs or is it easier to stand up for yourself when your own welfare is at stake ? One of these days we are all going to have to question these authoritarians who have not considered exactly whose will they are enforcing . Namaste .
Surely the best course of action is to just walk away, ignore them and not talk to them. I had this problem in a shopping centre, with a security guard, and it was much more trivial than dropping litter. It was regarding how I was dressed.
Richard Sandwell he’s got the police there to stop you walking away!! As seen in the video, if that guy didn’t turn up with his vast knowledge, the guy would be arrested!!
Sir, I often despair (increasingly worry is probably a better term) at the laughable priorities, yet still ever so subtle methods of control used by the state these days and much worse still, the increasing amount of sheeple prepared to gutlessly conform without question. Thank goodness some small few like yourself still make a stand and say "ENOUGH" So from a simple member of the public whom you are thanklessly trying hard to enlighten and awaken from our current cataleptic state of paralysis and ambivalence towards our basic human rights....Thanks!!
Thanks for sticking up for this guy and asking questions that they could not answer. He waits until the Police are around and then make their move. What cowards. I love the question. "if he does not give you his details what are you prepared to do? Gotcha. They did not want to hear that question. Are things really that bad in the UK?
So why could this guy have not been given the opportunity to put the butt in a bin? they are loving meeting their targets or not in this case haha maybe officer Wooldridge could answer?
XLVI 1 it's a total piss take arbitrarily fining even if the person is willing to pick up the rubbish, do an entity can profit.I wouldn't payshit.I would pick up the offending item(haha)Then try to walk of without acknowledgment.And peaple are waiting days for an inadequate response to burglary,theft or other serious offence.Who are the peaple who think this shit up?They have to be nutters.I bet if we did an honest background check of the person/s who concieved this idea we would find they are horrible and definitely psychological misfits.They would have to be.Or they have a lot of power and a sick sense of humour.£200.000a year to sit about drinking coffee brainstorming the most petty ways to influence peaples guilt complexes Vis a Vis a minor offence,so as to squeeze money out of them under the pretext of some supposedly good reason,or keep Camden clean.Fucking pathetic.Just ignore em and they will go away.
The best practice information says that they should be given the opportunity to dispose of the offending item. If they don’t they are arseholes, also they have no powers
The "Law" or questioning thereof, MUST be implemented with "complete dispassion" and without any inference of "moral or emotional disparity". Perhaps concentration should be on "the lawful validity of any contractual obligation" as "ignorance of" and "silence equals consent to" are "presumptions" of law(or more accurately; legislation) and come under the authorities obligation to provide proof ALL possible effort were made to supply & advise of his inalienable God given rights under "full disclosure". Failure to do so at any & all stages of "man made" legislation negate 'presumption of" becoming the "force of" and so legal enforcement of what are clearly "civil offences" require 'full & willing consent". Also the police(in any form) are acting in "dishonour" and breaking their "oath' as "peacekeeping constables" when attempting to enforce "civil legislation". They are nothing more than "corporate privateers" and guilty of extortion. This may not seem clear until one researches deeper. If one does so sticking to the premise: No victim(or injured party); No crime. All else requires consent... and unwitting or unknowing consent voids any & all contractual obligation, "the truth will out!"....... BUT, invoking this in a system infiltrated with self serving corrupt psychopaths at the helm is another matter entirely... Although, We have "right' & "numbers" on our side. peace
First class you are brilliant and you kept them talking so saved others as well. Thumbs up to you. You know some time ago I was parked on double yellow lines and a pco told me off I informed her I was waiting for my wife and had a disabled badge in the window she checked and told me It was displayed wrong (it was on the passenger dash board) I laughed at her and told her to stop wasting my time and turned my back to her. Then she carried on talking there crap so I turned around and told her to just go away. My wife then returned she got in the car I put to dog in the back then I got in the car a drove off. Never heard any more about it. I did this after watching your and the love police videos. So thank you very much.
I can almost imagine a PCSO spotting a smoker in the street and following the smoker covertly ducking behind bins and into shop doorways before he spots the criminal in the act of committing the crime of discarding a cigarette... "Bravo Oscar Yankee Alpha, all available units respond to crime in progress. Requesting helicopter to attend scene if available. Suspect may be armed with a lighter so be advised C019 Armed Response are aware and on route as flying squad are unavailable to effect the arrest."
Under Civil Law You~May Lawfully~Defend Oneself; If He Pro~Claims To Be Offended; Accept A County~Court~Claim: Ask For The~Contract They Possess That You Have Autographed:
Most councils I know aren't what you'd call environmentally-aware. In my town, there are rows of blue recycling bins which the council hasn't emptied in over three years. They even put locks on them. I also used to work at a primary school that hadn't had its bins emptied in 11 months, creating an environmental hazard near an infants playground. It was only when a parent threatened to go to the press that the council finally got their arse in gear. Councils only give a shit about a cause when it brings in revenue.
Unbelievable the people having a go at the council guy. If this was not on camera and the council guy was not there the guy would have dropped the cigarette butt and left it. Its a disguating habit people dropping litter.
I got cautioned for a littering offence a few months ago...(It was actually for fly postering but they said it would be come under "littering"). The police man called a council lacky and he wanted to take my details as well. I told the council lacky to piss off as I was only obliged to give the copper my details. Well, he didn't like that and the copper just gave him my details anyway. They asked me who I was fly postering for and I refused to share with them who I was working for. They told me what I was doing was wrong and I disputed it telling them it was doing nobody any harm. They said it was bad for the environment so I told them that the posters were bio degradable. They didn't have an answer for that but told me to expect a court invite through the post. Nothing came of it.
***** Ha ha. Well, I could do their offices but I wouldn't be putting posters inviting them to our events. I'd be putting obscenities up instead, as an up yours. I absolutely hate the Labour party.
***** I got caught again by the police and his little gestapo buddy from the council last night. The council guy showed me that he had pictures of me putting posters up on his council mobile phone, taken of me from a distance by a council photographer which has been zoomed in (and showed me quite clearly...that didn't fill me with joy tbh) and he reckons the local council are "after me" and asked me if I've received a letter in the post yet requiring me to attend an interview. Scare tactic perhaps... or serious? Who knows? But if I end up in court, I will be receiving a fine and a conviction apparently.
***** They weren't using intelligence to track my communications. I've been doing it for a few years and they've probably figured out my work schedule pattern and had council cameramen waiting for me to appear in the street with the posters and then snapped me in the act. Also, I can't see that argument holding in court somehow, if I'm honest.
You need to ask them who do they think has been offended if an offence has been committed. It should stop there. The Government is a fiction so is the title that the human being enforcing the law, is hiding behind from. The human being will always be above the law and will have no rights (claiming rights is claiming that you know the rules of the game) where as the strawman must. The human being in my definition is the natural living breathing sentient being known as "human" or "humanoid". We are all playing a game where the rule makers have no stake in other than to keep us playing. You are completely right in saying that it should be about morals rather law. The layman understands morals where as these "yes-men/women" are receiving their orders from Legalese speaking pirates. The video-camera is a crucial tool it seems.
i was stopped on George Street in Edinburgh a few years ago. It was a blustery day as is the norm in Scotland. I had just deposited a wrapper into a bucket on the street...2 council goons approached me. asked me why i threw the wrapper onto the street. i didn't even notice it had blown past the bin.. i offered to pick it up and they said i was facing a penalty.. I proceeded to pick up the litter and put in bin.. They were ok with that. i apologised and walked off.. common sense at play here..
How dare anyone presume to think they can hold someone against their will and boldly say so on camera ! And Danny your a hero for the people my friend !
How shocked was I to find that the Environmental Protection Act 1990 does actually make it an offence to not provide details to these footpads. Section 88 (8A)If an authorised officer of a litter authority proposes to give a person a notice under this section, the officer may require the person to give him his name and address. (8B)A person commits an offence if- (a)he fails to give his name and address when required to do so under subsection (8A) above, or (b)he gives a false or inaccurate name or address in response to a requirement under that subsection. (8C)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (8B) above is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale. Whatever happened to the right to remain silent?
This clown has no powers to do anything and certainly not detained somebody, he should have immediately call the police over and had this man arrested for false imprisonment This police officer should never have got involved in a civil dispute, other than being impartial witness to keep the peace. Why is it when a corporation shout the police jump and say is that high enough, then he should have just walked off leaving them standing there, that would have put them into a quandary how do they act next?
tax collection in progress the system stinks there's all this labour fore collecting taxes but when it comes to saving lives i.e. hospitals cuts cuts cuts our political system is so corrupt when will we wake !!!!!
Here in my City, the litter enforce pleds gave a eight year old a fine ticket, and it was outside the Town Hall, by luck a Councilor was outside.... arguments became and emergency Council meetings. The PFI enforcement contracting company was sacked and lost the contract within weeks.
If I ever experience this shit I’m just gonna wait for police to show up and demand that they arrest me and punish me for my crimes against the country
Ahhhhhhh that's why the police took 2 hours to get to a home alleged armed robber of my friends family home with 2 kids there. They were helping enforce a bylaw instead of the actual law. Super, thank you police :)
I would think many billions of filter cigarette buts have been discarded in the countryside over the years..but they have all biodegraded back to nature...you can't find a 1960's dog end anywhere..lol
Great work Danny.... Just stumbled across your channel & subbed mate keep the uploads comming! I wish everybody including my self was as clued up to laws and knowing of our rights!
Nothing in this video has anything to do with 'rights', if your grandparents taught you manners (and this ridicule of an uploader who refuses to reply on any of comments as he knows he's wrong) you'd be a decent human being like everyone else. It's blatant obstruction of justice against someone who has stupidly caused a minor offence along with his muppet of an accomplice hidden behind the camera, the fucking fool.
you really think or believe the police are on your side,they are not and also this thing about an ACT OF PARLIMENT IS EXCACTLY WHAT IT SAYS ....AN ACT LOOK IT UP NOT COMMON LAW AN ACT OF THE LAW AS I SAY AN ACT AS IN PLAY ACT.
My lord!!!! The streets are being policed with the same level of competency as the people running country!!!! How embarrassing!!!surprising? No!! Embarrassing? Oh yes!!!!!!
They should have bins everywhere, plus they should employ people to clean the streets, and I don't if you know Government and UK is registered and Councils are registered as PLC!
Littering pisses you off ☺😂😂😂 but you say nothing or do nothing against the corporation that control's these individuals inflicting these fines against your own people on this video ? YOU SIR WON STUPID COMMENT OF THE DAY.
