Buying Property in Portugal: Part 1 - Dreams vs. Reality 

I agree, there’s a glow now! That’s what Portugal and it’s lovely sun do to you.. add a warm glow to your heart and your complexion.

Ah, the famous Module 79L is back! I haven't seen you comment on foreigners' PT vlogs for ages. What happened to all the content on your channel? It seems you've wiped it all. You had hundreds of videos of atrocious driving, often with you getting angry at other drivers! After a time it all become a bit repetitive.

RIP Zach, really liked his vlogs.

Thanks for posting. Yes, I've watched some of their vlogs. Do you know what happened? Accident? Health problem? Just shows, we never know what waits us just around the corner. My thoughts are with Ginny and the family ❤‍🩹

That is so sad for them both. Perhaps there is some small consolation and solace from knowing they made the move albeit for the ‘shortest of summers’ Carpe diem

That's exciting! I live in the Netherlands but it's my dream to buy some land in Portugal. I travelled there for 4 months and fell in love years ago. Good luck on your endeavour.

Go away and live in Brazil. 😂😂😂

@@1219611a para já fala em português,segundo essa xenófobia está Sempre presente,eu como português tenho vergonha deste tipo de comentários

Both agents & sellers tend to ask exagerated prices when a property is first listed for sale to see what happens. They may get lucky. After a few months if it does not sell, they may reduce the price. But ultimately the final price may be a fraction of what was initially asked. In my village, a well-located property was up for sale for years for 100K, double its real value, with lots of interest but no takers. Finally the sellers decided they wanted to sell it asap and it sold for... 25K. Not uncommon. In areas with a lot of interest from foreign buyers, the asking prices are a bit crazy. I've seen bad properties bought by RU-vidrs for 10 times what they would normaly fetch. The BIG problem will arise if they need to sell it and they don't find another gullible buyer because the portuguese won't touch anything overpriced or poor quality

What was greedy about it?

We couldn’t find the prices unfortunately - these viewings were two years ago and I can barely remember what happened last week 😂 The next video in the series does have prices however

Here's a general answer to your question: each property is different and you should check with the local municipality (Camara Municipal) what you can and can't do with each property. The law for land management is the same nationwide but local rules may also apply in each municipality and are written in the PDM (Plano Director Municipal). Anyone can check the PDM online or at the local Camara. As a general rule, if a property is registered as "rustic" you cannot build on it. You'll only get permission to build new (or renovate an existing building) if a plot of land, or part of a plot, is registered as "urban". The PDM maps show exactly where the urban areas are. If you need an official answer, ask the seller for the "Caderneta Predial" of the property, take it to the planning department of the local Camara, and make a PIP request ( Pedido de Informacao Previa) to get a reply to your own questions about it. If you buy a large piece of farmland that you intend to farm, you may be able to get permission to build a new farmhouse and ancillary buildings, even if the land was not registered as "urban" because the local municipality would consider your need for a home to develop your farming activity. This would be approved, or not, by a planning commitee at the Camara. With existing buildings such as shown in the video: you need to know if they have (1) an habitation licence, or (2) are exempt from one if they were buit prior to 1951, or (3) if they are just registered as farm buildings such as barns, ancilliary, etc. For (1) and (2) you can get permission to renovate into a home, but with (3) you cannot, unless the barn is in a big plot and you intend to create a new farm as explained above, you can make a request to build and it may be approved, or not. If you buy an old house or ruinned house, you can renovate it, within the same footprint (as registered) without planning permission, but to increase the footprint / annexes / added floors you need planning permission, which starts with professionally drawn plans and may take a few months to get through, depending how busy the Camara planning department is. To renovate as well as build new, you ALWAYS need to get a licence to start the works (licença de obra) that states when you intend to start and finish, but can be renewed a number of times. During and after the new build, or renovation and when fisnished, the Camara will send inspectors to check that everything has been done according to current legal standards, electricity, etc, and they'll issue an habitation licence, or update the old one if there was one, and you can finally celebrate...🍷🍷🍷🍾 Any questions, just ask.

About the illegal add-ons: This is a very common problem in Portugal, you buy a house and the building does not correspond to what is registered in the Conservatoria (Land Registery) because at some point new annexes, or new floors, or ancillary buildings were added without planning permission and therefore they are not registered. Well... this is illegal and the seller is required by law to have all documents updated and legal to be able to sell, and the buyer should not buy a property in this situation. But... if the the buyer is going to do major works, or demolish to build again, and the illegal structure (or part illegal) is irrelevant to the new project, it is OK to buy. The Notary is not going to stop the sale because they won't know the state of it, they don't visit properties. But the buyer must be aware that he is only buying what is legally registered & described in the "Caderneta Predial" and that will be the same description in the new deeds. If the buyer intends to buy a house with an illegal add-on, and intends to keep and use it, it's recommended he asks the seller to legalize everything before the sale goes through. The Camara may well require the illegal structure to be demolished if it does not meet basic standards. Legalizing an illegal structure or add-on can be expensive and time consuming, and will become the responsabiliity of the new owner, including all fines, if he buys it in that illegal state. Hope this explains your questions.

Se têm medo dos incêndios é simples cortem as árvores e transformem a zona num deserto,então para que serve comprar terrenos para depois transformar isso num deserto ? Há quase 900 anos que Portugal existe e sempre houve incêndios naturais, provocados por mão humana e as pessoas viveram vivem e viverão perto dos montes nos montes, a madeira dá dinheiro, a minha família tem um monte como se diz no norte e foi com a venda de madeira que a minha mãe pagou os móveis do jeu quarto

Meu quarto

Pine trees have been there for thousands of years, but not eucalyptus. Eucalyptus is even more flammable, and comes from Australia.

To know for sure if a building is properly registered and legal, and what can and can't be built / renovated, is easy: you need to ask the local Camara. Get the Caderneta Predial of the property (from the seller) it's like the ID of the property and tells you the registration number, the total area in sq meters of land, boundaries, area constructed, type of building(s) and plan. Take the Caderneta to the Camara and ask them all about that property. For good measure, attach photos of the property as it is being offered. You can make a written PIP request with all your questions and you'll be given a definite & official answer by the Camara who happens to be the authority responsible for local land management. That's the only way. What the seller & agents tell you doesn't matter. It may be correct, it may not. Be sure, be safe!

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Not all houses are ruins, there are all types listed for sale, for all budgets. I recently saw a grand manor, totally refurbished and updated, complete with winery and vineyards ready for wine making, for nearly a million. So... from ruins to villas, you'll find your very own gem. Renovating a ruin, or building new, costs around 500 Euros per square meter, depending on materials chosen. A 2 bed, 2 bath new house circa 100 m2 could cost around 50,000 Euros. Plus the cost of buying the land. TIP: Five years is a perfect time to learn portuguese well before you arrive. Kudos... Good luck & Happy planning!

@@nativeadviser6870 We would need a 3 to 4 Bed 5 if we can get it or get it built, it all depends on the price, getting good Tradesmen is at times hard. i am looking into Learning Portuguese for the test one will have to do, even if we do not move to Portugal on the plus side i have learnt a new Language and i am over 60 x

Per recent video - they're on solar, off grid, with plans to move, and expand, the current installation to a more permanent location closer to the house (currently close to the tent they're in). Don't know if they've got any thoughts on wind.

Isnt bamboo really really invasive

@@theaweavers8576 depends on the sort bamboo, a thick plastic barrier can be dug in 20inches deep to force running rhizome upwards.