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Buying the WEIRDEST Cymbals

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Gear Used (affiliate links):
Wuhan Koi Conical China (Dark):
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Baldman Percussion Junk Hat:
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14" Sabian AAX Zen Effects:
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Sabian HHX Anthology Hihat top:
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Spiral Crash (this one is a 10" Zildjian. I used a 15" Domain in the video):
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Sabian Rocktagon:
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24" Zildjian Gong:
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Sticks/Implements/Hardware:
Vic Firth Freestyle 5b Drum Sticks:
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Vic Firth Dreadlocks:
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Vic Firth T1 Timpani Mallets:
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Vic Firth Rubber Tips:
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Vic Firth VKB5 Beater:
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Roc n’ Soc Drum Throne:
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Tama Road Pro/ Iron Cobra Hardware:
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Mics:
Pair of Slate ML-1 (as overheads):
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Austrian Audio CC8 (as rooms):
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Earthworks DK7 Drum Mic Kit:
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Lewitt DTP 640 REX Bass Drum Mic
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Shure SM57 (snare bottom):
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Austrian Audio Hi-X60 Headphones:
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These are some of the WEIRDEST cymbals I've ever seen... The further you go down the drum rabbit hole you end up finding stuff like this! Last time we looked at the Zildjian Raw Crash, Gong Sheet, 22" Flat Bosphorus cymbal blank, another unknown cymbal blank, and a set of 16" hihats I had modded. Well those hihats werent weird enough for you all so this time I got a set of Baldman Percussion Junk Hats and a 14" Sabian AAX Zen Effects cymbal to use as a hihat top. Plus I got a Sabian Rocktagon, Wuhan Koi Conical China, a 24" Zildjian Gong type thing, and a Spiral Crash! All of which are just a bit weird...
Buying MORE of the WEIRDEST Cymbals I Could Find

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@rdavidr Год назад

Yo, that china sounds insane 😮 Shoutout to everyone who has joined my Patreon! You can find my full drum mixes and unmixed stems if you are interested in joining! www.patreon.com/rdavidr

@adriansmith3825 Год назад

@rdavidr I am from South Africa and I do play the drums but I cannot find any drum kit that’s affordable other than a mint condition Mapex Prodigy for 4500 rand, could you review the Mapex prodigy? (Original owner has 20/22” inch Zildjan ride)

@Chillidog650 Год назад

that china is the heaviest of the hev yo

@alanduncan1980 Год назад

@1:27 that's what I'm talkin'bout

@l337drums9 Год назад

I have that baby, love it.

@annasophiarobb69 Год назад

That china does actually sound pretty legit. But over $200 for Wuhan quality? If it was like half that price it would make more sense.

@benmogs231 Год назад

You can't play a spiral without looking like you're fighting off a snake 🤣

@TainoMoya Год назад

Facts its hilarious 😆

@tyraal1 Год назад

Bahahahahahahahahahaha 🤣

@Spezifestos Год назад

I can‘t see one without thinking of chris dave. i think they were even meant to put them on top of regular cymbal and chris made it popular as a standalone one

@Spezifestos Год назад

I can‘t see one without thinking of chris dave. i think they were even meant to put them on top of regular cymbal and chris made it popular as a standalone one

@mikepalmer2219 Год назад

It did look like that. Now it’s all I can see lol.

@RolandTheJabberwocky Год назад

I enjoy the imagery that the spiral gives of the drummer having to actively fight his set to make music.

@pippat73 Год назад

thats a good concept for a sci fi world

@yep-that-happened Год назад

My dad had a band saw in his shop. Every cracked cymbal I ever had eventually got turned into a Rocktagon.

@BradsGonnaPlay Год назад

That China sounds phenomenal… as a sample probably, I sure as hell don’t want to mix it in a live kit with that kind of volume 😂

@rarecrom Год назад

FR LOL

@mh13mini Год назад

i own a Wuhan china. You have to hit then hard for them to open up and they are so freaking LOUD

@ifgwelf Год назад

It'd be good for beatdown

@MadCritter Год назад

Try mixing the 27 incher they have… own one myself

@fallenshallrise Год назад

I'm sad to admit that as a kid, when I went to buy my first real cymbals new from the music store I was taken in by the gimmicks and bought both a 16" Roctagon AND a 16" black Paste Colorsound crash. If they had that spiral thing I probably would have bought that too.

@fleatactical7390 Год назад

Nothing gimmicky about either of those, son. Both are amazing!

@coreyw5981 Год назад

Ew i hate colored cymbals. Some people care so much about look over sound that they'll but a whole damn set of those

@user-fx4hp2em8s Год назад

@@coreyw5981 i think they look cool but i don't like the sound of those sets enough to buy one (from the ones i've heard at least). plus it'd be weird to have just ONE cymbal thats colored if you got it just for the sound

@jbro2780 11 месяцев назад

@@fleatactical7390tbh i think they sound amazing but i do think that if u were a kid and bought that and u grew up it may not be the sound that u like

@drivingtennessee4926 Год назад

I was just randomly wondering what happened to the Sabian Rocktagon crash the other day. I always remembered seeing them at drum shops in the 90s never saw anyone actually using one.

@devinvenne Год назад

A guy I sold a set of hi hats to actually had one on his kit. First time I'd ever seen it, confused me a lot lol

@highergrounds8018 Год назад

I have one! Very loud and heavy crash!

@McCormickfarrier Год назад

I worked in a music store in the early 90´s, of course we had one in stock and EVERYBODY wanted to check it out.... and THAT is why nobody wanted it, I can tell you 🤣

@brutesquadbbq2268 Год назад

Every music store I remember from the 90’s had a Clocktagon. Just a Rocktagon with clock hands mounted in the hole 😂

@IrishStoner Год назад

last i saw they were coming back into stores

@joeovermoe2124 Год назад

With the junk hats, you can get a pretty cool reverse sound by spinning the bottom part (trash can lid) and then closing the top part down on it.

@ZizZap4 Год назад

Honestly I actually really like the trash hi-hat. It's a sort of hi-hat/snare/shaker blend in terms of sound and it works well on the backbeats.

@user-vt9xz7vo6x 8 месяцев назад

Same. I think it would sound great in funk or hiphop music.

@blujay9191 Год назад

That was fun. I would have loved to see if the spiral cymbal could walk down the stairs.

@johncollins5552 Год назад

It made me laugh everything you went to crash it although it looks like a piece of scrap it sounds ok ish... Looks like it would shred sticks in short order! I forget what the springy slinky cymbal is called....

@seatspud Год назад

Alone or in pairs?

@felsinferguson1125 Год назад

@@seatspud Who knows, but I bet it makes a slinkety sound... :)

@scottoclark3637 Год назад

The Wuhan Conical had a great sound. That would be a great MIDI sound for an electronic drum set.

@Uncle_Drywall Год назад

Seeing you fight that spiral splash is the best thing I've seen all morning. 🤣 Another great video nonetheless! 👏

@rasslebaby Год назад

It’s really neat how on the flat gong-ride, the “bell” is technically the bend at the edge. I just think that’s so neat to me.

@joeday4293 Год назад

It's actually got a great glassy ride sound, too.

@Aeduo Год назад

If I had to guess I imagine that's where it has the most rigidity? I wouldn't know the physics for why that produces the different sound though. I don't really know anything about drums, either, haha.

@LostInPripiat Год назад

Next project: Make the Rocktagon round, and see how much the sound changes.

@jimjordan4345 Год назад

What a novel idea!!!

@niekesselbrugge1132 Год назад

Pretty much would be a regular 16” crash i guess. Or a smaller ride. I dont expect it would have a sound that is different from regular rides or crashes

@alee0426 Год назад

@@niekesselbrugge1132 that's crazy

@RobertWrightOneManCovers Год назад

He missed the boat on that rocktagon. I've got several thousands of dollars in Paiste, Zildjian, Sabian, and Meinl cymbals, and my 18" Rocktagon is easily in my top 3 for any studio project.

@CommanderNewton Год назад

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

@ericstearns170 Год назад

I've owned (and used) my Rocktagon since 1984. I LOVE it, loud, brash and super versatile. Crash - check, China when inverted - check, Secondary ride - check, Symphonic for swells - check. Gil Moore of Triumph use to use these exclusively in his live set-up.

@TruthNTime Год назад

That spiral cymbal actually sounds good, it's sort of a hybrid of a splash and a china mixed. Crisp with a fast decay. I like it but it seems like it would be kind of hard to always get a clean hit on it though?

@lapin-rouge Год назад

YES, I use the Zildjian K 17 Special Dry Trash Crash on my electric kit and listening to that I was like, "wow that sounds really familiar..."

@Wumbo_the_Mumbo Год назад

You can kinda see in the video he tries to hit it and it's swinging away from him.

@malthuswasright Год назад

I remember seeing one in use (possibly Nubya Garcia's band at the Proms last year) - looked like it needed some practice to get used to. Sounded great though.

@teejay1646 Год назад

Maybe springs on top and bottom at low tension?

@jbro2780 11 месяцев назад

what ive mainly seen them used for was for stacks which give the stack a crispy and jingly tone

@fochefi752 Год назад

I just started to play the drums because you are so good at it thank you

@rdavidr Год назад

thats awesome to hear!

@gargangrg2116 Год назад

The first one is brutal, and this doomy sludgy part is insane !

@NoStupidItsManbearpig Год назад

The wooden chain hit hat had such a unique sound. Love it!

@bwgrindle Год назад

Great cymbal video. But what I liked the best was the way that kit sounded. Its great!

@UPdan Год назад

If anyone is auditioning for a rock band and play like David just did, you will get the gig. Solid time and perfect for moving the music.

@jedialf99 Год назад

My high school marching band back in the late 90’s used the rocktagon as ride/crash for the snare line. I think was more for visual effect than anything

@rcjd7834 Год назад

The spiral cymbals make amazing stacks by the way, I think that may be their intended purpose

@JohnD72277 Год назад

I remember Zildjian offering the spiral like that, and then years later the stacker came out. I always wondered if it was exactly the same thing or if some changes were made.

@nicorosbergbeatlewishamilt3890 Год назад

We used one of those spiral cymbals in our WGI winning indoor percussion show (I played rack percussion for that season). It was called spring theory. Get it. It’s a spring. The show went through the seasons. From a raging blizzard, to beautiful spring, to spring storms. Ending with a bit of “here comes the sun.” It was really cool but a pain to transport from show to show

@jackchase79 Год назад

More breakdowns please! I wanna see everyone pick up change, windmill and stage dive!

@RolandTheJabberwocky Год назад

Honestly that junkhat would be a great add on just for its crash. Adds a lot to the backbeats, but not much after that.

@tuskedbeast Год назад

I think all those sounded really musical and cool. Loved seeing you crack up trying to actually land a blow on the spiral thingy, and the assault segment was also rather hilarious. Great video, David! :)

@miloshk11 Год назад

Is it weird that i like how almost everything he uses sounds…? Like the only time any of the items he says sounds off in any video, i almost always enjoy the sound. Maybe im just used to literal garbage😂

@presterjack9764 Год назад

The magic of recording and mixing means it's not going to hurt your ears like it would in real life

@fleatactical7390 Год назад

@@presterjack9764 Yeah, I'm thinking these sounds have been... attenuated a bit for our ears.

@maffooo2040 Год назад

@@presterjack9764 also the magic of being a good drummer

@randyroberts4855 Год назад

That spiral crash would make a great top cymbal on a stack of some sort!

@SaltWaterDrums Год назад

I've definitely seen them used for that!

@01gtlimited Год назад

I also recently saw a video of someone with one nested inside a pair of hi-hats! Unsure if the center hole was resting down with the bottom cymbal or tightened up against the top

@eusevis Год назад

The spiral crash sounds insanely good.

@modellking Год назад

But it looks so shitty to play

@eusevis Год назад

@@modellking yeah this is true 🤣

@samueljacob5399 Год назад

@@modellking i have one and i mount it on top of a trash crash whenever i use it, makes a very good dry sound

@MrAPCProductions Год назад

Played in high school and a little after, these videos and the rebuilding the cheap sets with good heads was my life 20 years ago. What does it sound like when... insert random material into or about a cymbal stand, was life. Happy to see this type of life exist in the world still.

@caryd67 Год назад

I actually like the sound of that Zildjian gong-thingy.. makes a cool secondary ride/crash

@lochlanrivers1021 Год назад

Those spiral crashes are really good for using as the top of a stack. As they conform to mostly any cymbal shape

@fibboobbif Год назад

That Sabian crash ride looks like a refurbished broken cymbal. And the Zildjian Gong looks like they could use it in the kitchen for Chinese Paella ;-) And that chain hi hat sounds pretty funny.

@mal2ksc Год назад

The Slinky-cut cymbal sounds way more useful than I thought possible, although it suffers horribly from not being in the same place every time you swing at it. The chain and trash lid contraption does fatten a backbeat, but it's very much a one-trick pony. The hi-hat with the jingles reminds me a bit of putting a tambourine on your hi-hat clutch, meaning it still has the usual range of expression of a hi-hat, although not a particularly captivating one. I think it might just be too thin for the job, but fundamentally not a bad idea. It might be worth homebrewing one to see if you can do it better.

@jomamastool Год назад

That snare just sounds way too delicious... It's almost completely distracting me the funky cymbals 😂

@Torn_Shoe Год назад

Mom: Where's my bank card? Me in my room: 9:21

@crymeslv.1893 Год назад

The china looks like a sombrero, I like it

@msnrc Год назад

Knowing that this is not a death/techical metal channel I was about to write a comment that this china should be tested in a metal breakdown, but now I hear that you just didn't dissapoint :)

@peaceboogie Год назад

Really fun to hear the drums at 1.5x speed for break beats. Pretty mind-blowing sound

@brutesquadbbq2268 Год назад

Nice! Comment featured in an rdavidr video! I have seen those spiral crashes stacked onto other cymbals, could be a fun thing to play with

@iamanevilgenius792 Год назад

I have a friend who has a special 32inch china cymbal, custom built for his drum set. My friend’s uncle works at a cymbal factory and he got this unique cymbal for his birthday.

@perryboucher2946 Год назад

A few orchestra bands and symphonies I played with used that flat zildjian gong, it was always referred to as a "tam tam" I don't know if that's a generic term for gong or if that's the name of the flat zildjian thing. Either way it sounds awesome as a gong. And side note sabian makes these two and calls them "zodiac gongs'

@shobhitsushobhan Год назад

The way you bring about variations around the set even with new and weird things is really impressive, just want to become a drummer just like you one day

@tblev97 Год назад

"I'm never going to use these cymbals" *pulls out the sickest ride*

@tobynsaunders Год назад

I've never seen your channel before, but RU-vid recommended it, and then you had me laughing when you played that spiral cymbal, so, I subscribed. Thanks for sharing.

@pcrudge Год назад

Love the trash can chains on the backbeat, would be really cool with a hip hop beat, I’d like to hear what it sounds like on the off beat as well. Would be a nice option as a second hats / specific effect for a song but it would have to be a whole lot better to replace real hats. The chimes on the other set would drive me mad bouncing around the place as you move about the hat, maybe I’d try them in the bottom to see if that’s any good. Not a bad sound but limiting, also just sticking a tambourine on the hats sounds pretty similar, bonus being you can take it off easily. I’ll vote for the bin and chains but neither of these are versatile enough to be used as your only option. Best thing about it though is for the price of a clutch and som junk you’re off, free really… Cool video, thanks 👍

@ProfessorChocolateCake Год назад

5:41 I have a spiral crash and they definitely have more than just one sound. You can make millions of sounds with them!

@edmundbarrington6737 Год назад

you should turn a bass drum into a snare drum...

@jeffrittenour8202 Год назад

Mannnn this brings me back to being a teenager and getting stoked on finding some weird effects cymbal on craigslist for super cheap, meeting up in a parking lot, running home, playing it, being fucking disappointed and trying to convince myself that i'll use it, and then ultimately taking it down and throwing it on the stack of B-squad cymbals in my closet. I think every drummer can relate.

@michaelinglis8516 Год назад

Damn....that first one was sick. I was ready to laugh but thats so good its bad and back to good again!

@AaronTremblay Год назад

Been binging your channel recently after getting served your videos in my feed. Really enjoy your content! I’ve been a drummer for 27 years now (feel old typing that) but doing it very part time these days. Kids and work take the vast majority of the priority and time these days, but I’m living vicariously through all your drum videos! Loving the content, thanks!

@silhy37 Год назад

O man that "Sombrero" sounds amazing (1:03). Thick as heavy duty hand made tortillas.

@BST-lm4po Год назад

Wuhan's best line of cymbals, the 'Western Style' cymbals, are made from a B20 alloy and are a good cymbal! It's better than any of the big name cymbal manufactures budget cymbals. I have a set. The crash and the high-hats are great! The ride is acceptable.

@BerenCamlost666 Год назад

I love how you find different kinds of music that fits with the different kinds of cymbals, you make them sound great! (except the hihats, sorry for your expenses on those)

@kasieclark6673 Год назад

I’m a string instrument player and I love watching your videos I’m really enjoy the different sounds that come from different gear and have gotten a lot of new inspiration for songs so thanks and keep up the great work

@lhadrummer5756 Год назад

You need to buy the pearl president drums

@acidwizzardbastard Год назад

That trash hi-hat is surprisingly really cool. It could never replace a proper hi-hat (or, heck, the other weird hi-hat you tried with the jingles on it), for sure, but I love what you can get out of it.

@Stgpop Год назад

the decay on that spiral is beautiful!

@tiffanygordon9950 Год назад

The junk hats look like something Oscar the Grouch would play if he ever decided to jam.

@andrewjohnson388 Год назад

Was waiting for new upload ...cool .. From UK, love your content ...with humour and bonkers stuff ...original ..nice,,,and bloody good drummer ..as a fellow drummer.

@richardboward9145 Год назад

Great video. Lmao that plywood hi hat is killin it.

@drumswithatom Год назад

The spiral one is crazy hahahaha Btw what do u think of my CrapStack bro??

@NatiiixLP Год назад

I know absolutely nothing about music, but I love watching these videos, and I think they all sound... pretty interesting

@footlongrat2755 Год назад

5:20 goofy ahhh cymbal 🤓🥸

@twistedviewlabs Год назад

1:18 extremely brutal breakdown for no reason

@BennettJDavis13 Год назад

1. the Sabien hi hat can be used like a splash 2. the spiral can hang in a corner for an occasional splash 3. Rocktagon can be a ride that's all i can think of

@ka0nashi960 Год назад

The spiral crashes have changed my playing for the better. The thing is Sabian were making this way before Zildjian, and the Sabian ones are way better. They’re heavier and sound more lush than the Zildjian, which is more trashy and abrasive.

@spwitti7232 Год назад

I've seen spiral cymbals used at the top of a stack. Kinda cool visually. Not sure about the sizes though. Big ones probably won't be that "springy".

@DavidB.Rockin Год назад

I need you to try out one of the most unique weirdest drum kits ever;the cocktail kit! 😎

@subsonicwarthog Год назад

The octagon would be a good candidate to turn into an Ozone or stack

@tb7077 Год назад

That giant Zildjian lathed hole gong thing is screaming to be a giant wall clock. That one in particular was na aa sty.

@denizbluemusic Год назад

3:35 many early drummers of dance orchestras, especially those of bigger bands like duke ellington's sonny greer and vic berton of the paul whiteman orchestra had very extravagant drum kits with complete with gongs, timpani, a set of many temple blocks, mallet instruments and sometimes even a set of tubular bells in the back.

@Espo97734 Год назад

The zildjian gong cymbal kinda sounds like those big swish knockers that Simon Phillips uses and havent been made in like 40 years

@beast_of_burden7762 Год назад

Hey Dave, I was wondering, how do you remove metal washers from tension rods? Love your work!

@360.Tapestry 6 месяцев назад

people come to hear the different drum sounds, but i keep coming back for his different groove stickings.... need to steal some of these

@Neil-Aspinall Год назад

Cymbals were vaguely interesting but your kick and snare tones in this vid are sublime my friend.

@porcelainthunder2213 Год назад

Ah, yes. The "gimmick" cymbal. I remember the Rocktagons from the 80's. They were a staple of the "show kit". Those huge double-bass drum sets where the drummer played all night in 4/4 and on the same three drums (usually associated with hair metal acts). The Rocktagons, usually in matched 16" form, were front and center on boom stands. The rest of them...meh. The only useful one was the china. At least that had a usable sound.

@mikerophone235 Год назад

Great video David. I'd like to shout out Billy Martin from Medeski, Martin and Wood for using a spiral cymbal, he was the first person I saw ever use one. Peace

@L0CV5T Год назад

I did not expect david to absolutely beatdown on that koi china. Thats was awesome with the guitar and bass

@tylerdukart3162 Год назад

Subscribed because you spent so much for our entertainment... Cool video! Very neat use of odd cymbals, you make them sound awesome!

@The_Mister_E Год назад

The bell of that China sounds like it would be great for rolls, the rocktagon sounds awesome when hit on its edges, the 24' gong has amazing tonal variety depending where it's hit, and the Zen sounds like if a tambourine and a high hat had an estranged love child.

@anthonylatrace3445 Год назад

That trash hat adds killer “clap” on the 2/4!

@jibicusmaximus4827 Год назад

that's some super tight drumming, bass drum patterns are cool too.. i played guitar and other instruments for decades but getting more in to drums recently, it struck me that you are great basically!

@shadow105720 Год назад

That spiral crash is just begging to be stacked. Actually all of these weird cymbals are. A whole new series.

@satchmothewerewolf Год назад

Good video man, here's my thoughts Wuhan Koi Conical China (Dark): Sounds meaty! Big fan Baldman Percussion Junk Hat: Definitely a fun thing to play around on for a unique trashy junkyard kit, great as a backbeat thickener! not practical as a general hi hat in the slightest though 14" Sabian AAX Zen Effects: Great sound in the right setting 15" Domain Spiral Crash: Sounds cool, always thought these just look cool tbh, the swipe across the whole thing is a nice touch for a build up or big ending Sabian Rocktagon: Makes for a good crash/ride i guess 24" Zildjian Gong: Really like the sound of this in the groove! Its like a ride and a china had a baby! Big fan Keep the videos coming dude!

@johnschisler5381 Год назад

Those spirals, I've seen them placed over another cymbal like a crash, so they don't dangle like that, and when you hit the crash the spiral pops up.

@chrishtmusic Год назад

the wood and chain hi-hat is like nothing i’ve ever seen or heard before, very cool idea!

@viktormuerte Год назад

The spiral crash and the junk hats would be great for percussionists imo.

@kelzakdub Год назад

6:05 this section JAMS

@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383 Год назад

Yes! A new video! RDAVIDR never disappoints

@HA11EYS_COM3T Год назад

junk hat would be good as an aux hat simply for the pedal sound, could be used in conjunction with the snare to thiccen it up, or just to add a little anticipation from the sound of the chains striking the bottom... thing... before it's actually fully closed.

@PYROWORKSTV Год назад

Like how you tried to make the spiral work - great job and play! :D

@Drumsholic Год назад

At this no bell zildjian cymbal china like if you close the hole you can use it for cooking pies in the oven or fried potatoes...lol sounds good at last...

@atmghst7112 Год назад

I LOVE THAT SNARE OMG

@michaelkearney2186 Год назад

The first china sounds awesome. The junk hats have a cool backbeat “ handclap “ sound but that’s it. I like the spiral crash because you can hit on the down and the upstroke

@ongdrumstudio Год назад

I picked up the spiral cymbal 4 days ago and found that it sounds really cool stacked on top of crashes and hi hats. Should test it out.

@Gunbudder Год назад

i played with Harry Blazer once, and good GOD that guy had a lot of cymbals. he played all electric for his kit except for the cymbals. he's the only drummer i've ever played with that actually hit every single cymbal on his tree and rack, and used them all in his solos. none of them were weird cymbals though, just all different sizes and a bunch of splash cymbals. that dude's drum face was outrageous too. everyone has a drum face, but his was on another level