Buzz and Kenty CLASH over Magic Round sin bin drama | NRL 360 

Ikin is the one that makes the most sense and he has played the game at the highest level.

Buzz is 100% right its a panic on what happened last week I tbe roosters Parramatta game

Kent contradicts himself he’s saying the players need to be protected but a few weeks ago he was calling for the biff to come back 🤨🤨 he and Hooper are hopeless. Why wasn’t Kaufusi suspended for his blatant head high on Corey Norman? I guess Norman was in the wrong for not staying down and milking it... R.I.P. NRL

Kenty has no idea this will bring in more milky and diving in the game

You guys have so much instant agitation towards each other lol

Kent shat his pants once Ikin stuck up for Buzz lmao. Theres a reason he only ever played one game. This is golden hahahaha.

Even if they sent the memo out 2 weeks ago . Why didn’t they do it before the start of the season or at least the nsw cup before doing it. 200 new rules but they want it to be faster without injury

Players and coaches have been testing the boundaries of the rules for ages and didn’t adjusted their tackling because NRL enforcement had been soft. They knew they could get away with it. The NRL should’ve had balls earlier. Magic Round was a deliberate over-correction to force change. The NRL should reward good tackling, even if that means a slower play the ball. They should make some leeway for accidental high shots. They can still award a penalty even if it was accidental.

Average winning margin 20.7 points. That's how the round was ruined. If they are serious about player safety, they should be managing Tedesco out of the game or educating him on how to not fall into tackles. They need common sense. What happened to careless, reckless or intentional?

Can someone please tell Kenty that the tackle he is saying is perfect from that south player is TERRIBLE, head wrong position asking to be knocked out

Assuming this blitz continues, Origin can only go two ways 1. Zero intensity, lacklustre game as all players are fearful of getting thrown in the bin. 2. We end up with half the players on the field in the bin or sent off and the game in a shamble

Buzz needs to head high Kenty. That’d be magic 👍

Apparently the NRL just bought the rights to Sarcastaball from Trey Parker and Matt Stone for next season

Kent just yells at his coworkers to get his point across. Buzz and ikin are classy the way they stay calm...

Game got too fast, too much attack with 6 to go rule creates sloppy tired defence and high tackles gone wrong trying to wrap the ball up. Blow out scores will be the new normal, not rugby league any more, just glorified oztag.

8:00 Kenty doesn't understand what kills sports. In Australia Basketball isn't professional because of no fans yet high participation, soccer as well ( yeh I said it's not professional) and Union is barely hanging on

Legs tackle can be more dangerous for the defender catching knees and hips to the head

If the NRL don't crack down on head highs they will be potentially facing massive compensation payouts. This all follows the NFL findings and is why Rugby got so tough on head highs, based on their legal advice. It has the potential to bring the NRL to its knees financially if they can't demonstrate they have done enough to reduce the risk..

You can’t enforce such heavy rule changes so early in the season and expect players to get it right straight away. It’s nonsense and quite frankly unfair on the players and teams. The biggest blow is when these players are getting sent off for soft penalties. 2 teams over the weekend were left with 11 players on the field for crying out loud I bet half the viewers didn’t finish watching. Yes I agree with the crackdown but fk me dead leave them on the field. The only send off that was warranted for me was ese ese

That Brisbane one at the beginning was a bit soft

Papalii wasn't a send off lol penalty sufficient lol no swinging motion but he should expect only 2 weeks for his hit but yeah player's should go one on one nice hard dumping legs tackles

what fan poll are they talking about.. where are these posted?

He said the NFL has gotten rid of helmet to helmet contact... he obviously doesn't watch it 😂

If they want to get rid of high tackles and be as hard on it as they are then they need to get rid of the six again call which no one wants.Even the fittest players are out on their feet so of course more mistakes are going to happen

Gamble did nothing wrong. His a small bloke being targeted so he tried to put his body on the line and to save a try. Not even that high

If NRL is so serious about player safety why are all players not required to wear headgear?

Worst round of football I’ve seen since that terrible period about 12-13 years ago where the video ref kept calling everything obstructions. The games were near unwatchable.

The only problem I can see with it is like tedesco is players will start ducking into tackles to get penilties or players sent off...

If you want to bring in faster football and safer for players then bring in unlimited interchange and scrap the 6 again rule

I’m still waiting for the play the ball crackdown implemented in 2018 MUST USE THE 🦶🏻 FOOT!! 2 months later back to roll ball AGAIN!! Fuckn JOKE

Why was Matt Cecchin punished? He told the Bunker, 'check the knees!'

You can see the difference between the coaches that were much more measured, nuanced and insightful with their comments (Craig, Wayne, Robbo) and those that were negative and whiny (Ricky, Baz). It’s no surprise which teams are at the top and which teams are at the bottom. Ricky Stuart is a flog. No wonder Canberra is a mess.

If players make mistakes while being fatigued they will be punished for it. What is the point Buzz is making

Kent is a deadset dropkick. I get why he’s come around so quickly though. He did say that players and ex players are the last to come around, and you can’t say he was ever much of a player 😂

What about the players with the ball that drop their bodys going into the tackles? James tadesco

Players are getting suspensions for weeks and missing games when they are usually done by accident. Game has gone so soft because commentators like use ruin our game! If I see another 15 send bins again I’m telling you I’m not watching nrl again until it’s back to the tough days when we can throw punches, put on big hits and watch out team go All out!!!

Some of the send offs where soft, if this is the new standard say good bye to rugby league. Every time a poor decision is made, air leaves the room. I am so glad I kept my money in my pocket.

How does everyone not see how blatantly players are throwing the shoulder into their opposition with the intent of hitting high. Its like the shoulder charge got banned and every coach went straight to the definition of what is considered a shoulder charge and then modelled tackling on the most lethal version they could fit outside that definition.

V'landys knew what he was doing, chose a high profile round to send the message. He's no Mug.

Don't know how the other 3 can comment if they have never played the game before

The new rules are spoiling the game I love.

Kenty: without fans there's no nrl

It is embarrassing for the sport. Concussion is only going to be more prevalent with this bullshit edict of just saying just tackle lower. You cant. You are going to have 8 concussions a game. Players are too skilled with footwork at the last second and too damn big to say just tackle lower. It is an out of touch remark from people that are out of touch with the athletes of today

Could just be me, but it seems like the result of every rule change since V’Landys got in has/will result in more tries. More tries = more ads = more money from TV deals. Just my opinion, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence...

The game is Cooked how can you punish a defender whos not at fault for a off footed fallen attacker thats a disgrace. When is the bunker going to have common sense and say penalty sufficient attacker falling in tackle.The game is rubbish all contracts signed by players should have waivers in them as this is a contact sport and these are the risks. Maybe this game isnt for some that means find another job or sport because every day people go to work take risks either at work,going to work or coming home from work.This game is cooked and so is this woke generation.

Kenty saying nfl have changed there tackling style so there’s no head contact maybe he should watch a game there always calling helmet to helmet contact and that rule has been in the nfl for 5 yrs now. There tackle style hasn’t changed

Paul Kent, how can you lower your tackle an inch in the split of a second? How do you know what the player carrying the ball is gonna do? I have been someone who had more concussions doing low around the chest tackles or legs tackles because the player carrying the ball accidentally hit me with an elbow or came up with a knee to my head. So how do you expect players to adjust? It's like taking the kicking out of kickboxing.

Kenty needs taking of that panel and hoops needs replacing to. Shouting over each other and at an old man trying to get his point across absolute joke. And the way they are sin binning for head contact is going to kill the game and make players constantly dive low as they get tackled. It's going to cause more injuries

Kenty - "Fans have to come around as well" umm no fans no game yeah?

Is it gonna be touch footy?

It’s always “inconsistency” with Rothfield. The bloke lives in fantasy land where referees never make errors, penalty counts and six agains are always equal every single game, and every game is close and goes to golden point. Consistently.

I think it's the late hit on players after the ball has been passed that is more the issue, it's a dog act and the NRL has been soft on it for ever. A lot of the high shots are careless and the players need to change but I believe they have sped the game up too much, you can't have the big heavy collisions and a super fast game as well, the accidents will keep happening.

I’m sick and tired of these new rules. These six agains are causing players to become fatigued and were seeing a lot of blow up games which is highly unwatchable. These sin bins/sent-offs are getting out of hand. I can understand vlandys saying we should focus on player welfare, but he doesn’t realise that rugby league is a contact sport. Accidents are going to happen. That josh papalli one wasn’t a send off. Honestly, where’s the consistency? It’s not the game I loved growing up as a kid who loved the physicality. Might as well call is National Touch League.

Destroying the game, in a lot of the games the sent off and 10 of the minutes made the games not competitive. Its not enjoyable to watch. You bring the 6 again rules that make players more tired and then blame players to make poor tackle under Fatigue. The tackle on Aaron woods was sent to be a great tackle a couple of years and now you get 10 minutes for it. You need to make safety but at the same time it's a contract sport where people are running at each other.

kenty, im not coming around to it, im just not going to be a fan of the sport any more.

Happy to see changes to the rules but the frequency of changes has resulted in most games just not being enjoyable to watch anymore. Hopefully the NRL get there in the end with how they want the game to be played but at the moment the game lacks entertainment and is at best frustrating to watch

Common sense when your fatigued your going to make mistakes Kenty ya flop. So with a faster game is going to bring that out.

As a Manly fan I honestly think Tyson Gamble's tackle on Reuben Garrick was worthy of nothing more than a penalty at best. 10 for that was soft. And can someone explain how Moses Leota's hit in the Titans vs Panther's game was only worth 10, yet almost the very same tackle later in the game by Herman Ese'ese was worthy of a send-off.

I was more outraged by Wighton trying to end old mates career.

Buzz, you are the man and you smoked kenty lol. The knock out blow was when you brought up he wanted the biff back just last year lol... Love this show

Simple fix to bring back the legs tackle I was taught through juniors count to three and get up it gives plenty of time to get a line set there will be a clear cut rule of how long you can stay in the tackle. It will bring back players fighting for the quick play the ball rather than milking a penalty in the ruck

Hooper is the biggest muppet in leauge

Why do at Magic round he says.... answer..All 16 teams technically together over 1 weekend, no arguments... Also If this was left till the next round or later he would be moaning that this should of started back at magic round and not left a week later. Cant win with some it seems. The players know how they should tackle, but these things have crept in and been left for far too long.

Banning the offload would help achieve the goal. Also ban the fast play the ball - have to wait till the player is at marker. But the rule changes are also about 'faster, more exciting game'. So should we be questioning the sincerity of those wanting to protect the players if they also want such a fast paced exciting game. Slow the game down and you'll get less head high tackles.

The players doing the illegal high tackles are simply scared of getting hurt when they do a lower tackle

Herman's was the only tackle that deserved a send off. Every other was marginal. Its getting ridiculous. Pap and Teddy were falling toward the ground before contact, what are tacklers meant to do at that split second?

You can’t reward a legs tackle. I don’t know how you could? The only way is if the player playing the ball must wait until the legs tackler gets back to marker but then that person could take his time getting up which would be another way of slowing the play the ball down.

Rewarding leg tackles?... This ain't under 5's here Kenty.

When a players forward progress stops and they have 2 defenders hanging off them call held immediately...refs dont call held quick enough...invites the 3rd player in to make the legs tackle, slows the ruck down, and the play the ball....forward progress stops "Scream HELD, Play the ball" will also stop injuries from 2 or 3 guys driving one 80-100kg player backwards crashing into the ground in a mass of arms and legs with 250- 300kgs coming down on top of them. HELD, PLAY IT, RELEASE HIM.....fuckin simples.

I flew up for magic round. I have loved rugby league from when I was a little kid, and never thought I’d say this but I was honestly bored watching the games on the weekend. It became a joke with fans in the crowd that players would be binned. With the injuries and bunker decisions the game was slower than ever. Sometimes looking at the clock and seeing 20 mins left you knew it would take 35+ to actually finish. What they are doing to our game is abominable. The nrl is most PR sensitive organisation I know of. Any criticism and they resort to ad hoc, non-strategic decisions. PVL - sort it out

Totally disagree, how do you prevent an attacker falling into your shoulder.

I'm with buzz, I hate these so called crackdowns if they were permanent that would be one thing, but they get brought up randomly based in public opinion

How many Games did Kenty play ??

Kent plays 1 game and thinks he knows everything, players shouldn’t have to change anything about there tackling style it’s rugby league not touch footy harden up the crackdown is ridiculous and isn’t needed

Looking forward to the sin bins this week.. make your bets now.

For once I'm with buzz. Roosters sooked and now the whole league is revamped

It wasn’t ruined

How are you ment to adjust mid tackle to a player who's falling into your tackle by the time your shoulder would make contact with the players chest he has fallen that much he's head is now where the chest was and the tackling player who's launched he's tackle can not then just stop take a second a reposition hes feet and stance to drop lower in a split second to match the player who has fallen , slid etc into the tackle ,

If you’re fatigued then don’t play. Better safe then sorry. Rugby league in 2021 is a sport that requires fitness levels to be at its best on game day. If you’re unable to give 100% during a game then why play at all ? A new rule that prevents players from a long term brain injury shouldn’t be an excuse for poor performance. Look at Penrith and Melbourne. These players just work on progressing their skill and fitness, so when a new rule comes in they can adjust themselves accordingly to perform well on game day. Titians defence on the weekend was shocking, hence why they gave away a lot of opportunities when Penrith was down a 1 player.

Buzz just doesn't bother to hide the all-day drinking now, does he?

Almost every collision will give you some sort of concussion. Even if you don’t get knocked out/pass out you still get some sort of head injury.. it’s a contact sport this will happen. Just imagine a boxer or ufc fighter getting shaky legs and them stopping the fight..

Right or wrong ,that's how it's guna be ,can't see them changing back ,they have made there rule no head contact, for the safety of the players its a good rule...will this effect the great game of league ....in the beginning like any new rule change ...yes it will....but really they have left no options for the player... head is out of bounds .... No excuses no accidents....time will tell if this changes rugby league ..... hope not

They have to look carefully at players milking it n player getting ready to tackle n he moves in a different direction coz der no way out of it

Is there any other sport in the world , that debates its rules and rulings as much as Rugby League. Serious question.

this is incredible, when they (the powers that be) are saying that the game won't survive in 10 - 15 years if we don't defeat the concussion, the truth is... they are not exaggerating, former players loved ones are seeking litigation advice on financial recompense for the possible lack of care to players welfare thru a 1-3 year window period prior to the current leadership. (ie. knowing that concussions could/can lead to a deterioration in the quality of life, and failed to take ALL possible actions within their power, eg; Strongly enforcing the laws/rules of the game, tackles/contact above the sholders) now, I do not blame those families for investigating this route, remember these are sons, brothers, husbands and Dads, that can't remember why they walked into a room, or look blankly at someone and get embarrassed because they forget what they're talking about... (remember not all players are paid $1,000,000 a year) the reality is, if the NRL are found to have been lacking in the duty of care during that period they could face a multi-million dollar lawsuit, now if that was to happen, could the game survive? yes, maybe... (remember, less than 12 months ago, covid-19 revealed that the NRL's war chest was empty) but if the NRL is found liable, the clubs could also be called into question... and if a club has failed to do everything in their power for a players duty of care, now that would hurt the game we love... If one club is guilty, all clubs are... and game can not survive that. now, some will say that the NRL are just looking out for their own pocket and interests, some will say that's just tuff luck, you know risks when you sign a contract... but the truth is... everyone has the right to go home in the same condition as they arrived at work. and... The NRL has identified and placed the player's welfare as its number one priority. and if that is not enforced we won't have a game. *remember, I'm not a reporter, and I have absolutely no credibility, I just listen to those who speak with credibility and from experience form my own opinion... bring on %100 Footy

Went to the MR games, all the sin-bins ruined the games and the weekend. Thought NRL was a game for tough guys, saw more dives than the olympic games

Kenty actually makes the strongest points , with hoops second in this clip...hate to admit

How do you account for someone like James The Milkmaid Tedesco? Best Female Actor Award goes to him

Due respect to Kenty but I don’t have to come around I can stay or go

Make ALL players wear head gear and shoulder pads which absorb most of the hits to assist reducing the risk of injuries... also in future if tackling at the body and players start saying their organs are failing due to the big hits of playing football or ribs crack and puncture a lung where do they go then? Only tackling the legs? And new rule no offloads if defending player is touching you?.... game is becoming soooo different and it's where it is headed.. no pun intended

The words you use is discretion and the refs and NRL don't have any. Attacking players falling into tackles is a poor action on the attacking teams part not the defence but you're penalising the defence for it. So are we now penalising attacking teams for a fend to the face as well.

Typical of the media, wanting the game played their way.

If the NRL left this game alone, instead of trying to speed it up for TV, everyone including the players, coaches, fans, media and administrators would be better off. Referee to the rules of the game. Encourage tackling around the legs rather than locking up the ball. What rubbish this game has become.

The fans aren't the ones gonna be dealing with long-term concussion issues

Kent must of not been at the games or spoke with anyone in the stands. I sat there through 8 games and everyone said it was rubbish most of the sin bins. Some should be send offs but most were love taps. Um, no I won't come around and you are not speaking for all supporters. I paid good money to see Brisbane have two players off, travelled thousands of KMs and spent good money. I will not be back next year and plenty of others said the same around me. A hit to the shoulders regularly goes up to the head with almost no impact. If you want no head knocks just make it mandatory to wear head gear, it will be just touch footy or go to full head gear. Reward the legs tackle? How? Those forwards will just offload every tackle and with the speed of play and fatigue no one will keep up. By the way... Why keep yelling, what a bunch of children. Learn to debate, not just talk over each other

pretty sad the afl has been the tougher sport for the past decade...they should just start playing netball at this point

Thank god Kenty isn’t running the game. I was there Sunday night. This is not good for the game.

havent watched the video, but buzz is usually wrong anyway.

RIP rugby league

grid iron helmets are coming