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@mrkitty8397
@mrkitty8397 Год назад
A guy scavenged a smashed car, and finds surface rust, yeah that’s normal. More information is needed. But I have been to smash wreckers to scavenge parts and always find rust somewhere.
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany Год назад
Yeah same here but on a 6 month old car? And take a look at the photos... There's rust in between two panels which are normally sandwiched together and mainly where the bolt holes were.... That's not right.
@johnhindson5316
@johnhindson5316 Год назад
I am old enough to remember how everyone was so impressed with the Lancia Beta. Looked good and a really spacious family car. Then there were reports of rust. Lancia quickly went from hero to zero and all Italian cars started to be looked on with suspicion. As to the questions that the Viking asks such as "Is this normal?" and "Is this serious?" my answer would be that having rust on a £30k new car after a few months is unacceptable and should raise serious questions about BYD. In the 1980s/1990s the CEO of the Scandinavian Airline SAS used to exhort his staff to achieve excellence in everything they did by saying " if a traveller notices coffee stains on the fold down tray on the back of the seat in front they will think-- if they can't clean the tray how good will their engine maintenance be? -- ". If BYD can't build a car body how can they build an electric motor? If I were the Viking I'd certainly be wary of telling the world to buy BYD cars!
@michaguy
@michaguy Год назад
There was a joke that even the plastic in Alfa Romeos rusted. That was in the 80s and they fixed it. (NB I drive an Alfa)
@duster8100
@duster8100 Год назад
When Falcons first came to Australia my friend's Dad started a panel beating workshop to fix the rust before they were sold. I worked in a Lancia dealership, awesome cars but rust and other problems held them back. We had a customer who was a Qantas pilot and he dropped his car in one day and said he was being posted OS for 6 months so that should give us plenty of time to sort out all the problems his car had.
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
Don't believe Viking on everything he says. he is slightly biased towards BYD even if he did own one. If there indeed are issues on BYD Atto3 which seems unlikely considering millions of Chinese live on the coast and seem to be happy buying these more than any other brand despite heaps of choice. But even if they are they are not as big as Tesla's mainstream quality issues on American made cars widely reported for over a decade globally which Viking never adressed because he loves the brand.
@koonhaokoonhao
@koonhaokoonhao Год назад
@@ciybersal9833 in a video about byd you can also mention tesla 🤣. Get a life you byd shill. He literally owns and drives a BYD atto3 right now
@1rjona
@1rjona Год назад
@@ciybersal9833 I'm curious if this is Australia only. Maybe its too salty in Sydney for BYD'S usual paint job. Lived in Shanghai. BYD buses and cars are everywhere there. But many Chinese coastal cities are actually not near the sea. They are on large rivers several miles inland
@David-sk7ls
@David-sk7ls Год назад
Most likely you find rust at unimaginable places after a car is wrecked, no matter what brand. It is written off for a reason.
@gzcwnk
@gzcwnk Год назад
Not on bolts like this, to wide spread.
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany Год назад
The pictures show corrosion of dissimilar metals likely from choosing the wrong bolts, nuts, washers etc from factory.
@gmasterdude
@gmasterdude Год назад
It's not just the Atto 3 a friend of mine has a BYD van from around 6 years ago it had rust coming out a couple of years after buying it , coming out on the panels visible from the outside.
@brendanpells912
@brendanpells912 Год назад
Actually, these aren't significant rust problems and are being whipped up by the Tesla fanboy community that hate any and all other EV makers.
@Anomize23
@Anomize23 8 месяцев назад
No one’s hating on China made questionable products. But it is a fact they catch more fire than Teslas. Videos don’t lie posted all over
@ratscabies8458
@ratscabies8458 Год назад
All rust starts as surface rust !
@nilsfrederking62
@nilsfrederking62 Год назад
100% agree, surface rust after 6 months leads to destructive rust after a few years
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@lighthousesaunders7242
@lighthousesaunders7242 Год назад
​@@IceCubebecd hey bot, get knotted.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
@@IceCubebecd Never saw rust in my Teslas 🤷‍♀🤷‍♂
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Год назад
@@IceCubebecd The BYD rust spots are all steel. Aluminum corrosion is not red iron oxide. I think we caught you in a lie because you did not realize aluminum lacks iron.
@sigma_six
@sigma_six Год назад
Like nobody saw this coming?... EXACTLY what I said about Chinese cars... i.e. there WILL be inherent quality issues by definition, BECAUSE they are Chinese made! Think Honda (first models were notorious rust buckets) It may be a characteristic of large industrial 'evolution' in general, either intentional or 'evolutionary' but early models are going to have quality issues, and China will be NO EXCEPTION... TESLA may be an exception, because they are an EXCEPTIONAL company... but even their earlier models won't be as good as their later models...
@Lost_Johnny
@Lost_Johnny Год назад
Not a hint of prejudice here, of course.
@raymondmumford6255
@raymondmumford6255 Год назад
I think we also have to take into account how much these companies are prepared to support their customers, and from what I have seen, EVDirect Australia don't give a rat's arse about their customers, where as MG appears to be supporting their customers, and is investing in the country with showrooms and service centres.
@sigma_six
@sigma_six Год назад
@@raymondmumford6255 Exactamundo... HUGE RED flag that could be seen from miles away
@sigma_six
@sigma_six Год назад
@@Lost_Johnny against what? Chinese? Japanese? Large Scale manufacturing? maybe the two losers that upvoted you can tell me?... Lol... Are you like a "Quality Control Engineer of Chinese manufacturing?... oh wait... that's a non existent job description... or maybe you work in Chinese Automobile Customer Service Dept?... mmm nope, that hasn't been invented in China yet... So what's your excuse for your exquisite insight? What is it based on? are you one of those "woke" idiots?
@james_l4337
@james_l4337 Год назад
Tesla had lots lots of issues, certainly Not what you are saying. I can find so many of the UTube buyers on this however as they refined those problem a decade later, now Tesla quality has drastically improved We will see how BYD will either improve or continue take a big back lash for few years
@TechnicsSLGGAE
@TechnicsSLGGAE Год назад
THANK you! Luckily NIL such thing for my Atto3. I live in the West Coast of the most humid country: Singapore🙏🏼🌞😄🌴 exposed to the max: land and sea breezes everyday, next to the saltish sea!!!!! I'm a doctor, my brother runs a car mechanic shop! We were so scared seeing your post, that he took my EIGHT MONTHS old Atto3 exposed to rain and shine!!!and took things apart in those parts you mentioned and more! RESULT: NIL CORROSION nor RUST 🙏🏼😄🌴🌞🌞🎋
@akie64
@akie64 Год назад
Haha, you fool, it's what you don't see that hurts, stick to the experts, the Japanese!!
@sneo7470
@sneo7470 Год назад
BYD ATTO 3 👍👏💪🇸🇬
@bangkock-cv5no
@bangkock-cv5no Год назад
Won't happen if the car isn't wrecked. The car doesn't get just painted but it happens through ionization. He wrecked the car which led to high friction that will never even appear closely if the car is being used normally...even if you go off-road.
@TechnicsSLGGAE
@TechnicsSLGGAE Год назад
Yes exactly...it happens very fast in wrecked cars!!!!! They need to spray to loosen the joints to unfastened all these hard screws!!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Sigh, this saga is SIMPLY SOME SMEAR campaign initiated EASILY by rival car companies. Might be T****a, might be T.....a.
@Mopar_logic
@Mopar_logic Год назад
Lies! Lies! Lies!
@duster8100
@duster8100 Год назад
Don't compare vehicles that are driven on salted roads to vehicles in Oz, that is a stupid argument with only one aim, to dramatise a story and prove you don't have a clue about the subject. This channel goes into the bin, have a good day.
@bonkersdrifttrikes8799
@bonkersdrifttrikes8799 Год назад
Sandy Munroe would be the best person to ask if this is common in new cars or not 👍
@JohnNy-ni9np
@JohnNy-ni9np Год назад
Mr Sandy was busy reversed engineer Tesla cars then sell it to the Chinese. Now he is working full time for the Chinese so I wouldn't ask him for his opinions on this.
@1chourse
@1chourse Год назад
You should not project your values on Sandy or anyone else.
@johnnguyen699
@johnnguyen699 Год назад
Does he speak Chinese too?
@bonkersdrifttrikes8799
@bonkersdrifttrikes8799 Год назад
@@1chourse my values and my opinion thanks Mum
@feizo
@feizo Год назад
Viking didn't tell the full story --- said Atto 3 is currently being sold on pickles. It's been written off, suffered frontal damage and has been parked in a salvage yard for some time. Sure, let's all rely on salvaged vehicles as a reference to quality.
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
@@Fwoke The junk in eating up your favourite brands and will remain so. Meanwhile warlords in europe make sure their industry moves to china.
@feizo
@feizo Год назад
@@Fwoke Are you allergic to facts?
@whowhy9023
@whowhy9023 Год назад
Rust problem in Australia?? Australia is dry warm & sunny. What will happen in northern Europe & US? Salt, rain and slush .
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
More people live on Chinese east coast than Europe and Australia combined. If this was true, millions of them won't go near this brand yet this sells in gazillions far, far outselling everything else including his beloved brand. Unless there are more reports this seems highly unlikely and "worrisome rust issues" tagline is sensationalism, something he accuses MSM for a long time...
@Notme-tq4xs
@Notme-tq4xs Год назад
@@ciybersal9833 Any real objective reports on rust in China? Maybe not. "hide it" might be the situation
@jman8128
@jman8128 Год назад
Thanks for the infomation, I was about to order one Atto 3, Now I will think again. The rust looks horrible.
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@1005lbourg
@1005lbourg Год назад
@@IceCubebecd another Chinese propaganda bot
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
@@1005lbourg Much better than Tesla bot Viking who ignores decade old widely and globally reported quality/paint problems with Teslas. No wonder picks on BYD decimating his favourite brand in china, Thailand, New Zealand, India Costa Rica and Malaysia!
@Notme-tq4xs
@Notme-tq4xs Год назад
@@IceCubebecd Please tell me about Tesla rust issues. Can't find anything about it.
@jman8128
@jman8128 Год назад
Most probably BYD is innocent on this case. (Technics SL1200G/GAE) in comment here (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TzMzDbr9p04.html) dissembled his atto3 (8 months), no rusty at all. it could be test by any atto 3 user, easy.
@brunoethier896
@brunoethier896 Год назад
If they rust in Australia, they'll fall appart in a canadian winter's road salt. 😅
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw Год назад
BYD sold most of its car in China where it is known to have tons of car crash happen due to how dense the city is and yet there is barely any complain about rust issue ? Maybe it's the habit of the way that specific owner live that cause it ?
@蔣傅傑
@蔣傅傑 Год назад
在中国似乎没有人投诉生锈的情况😂
@蔣傅傑
@蔣傅傑 Год назад
更多的问题可能是ev受限
@Notme-tq4xs
@Notme-tq4xs Год назад
@@蔣傅傑 Can somebody complain in China ?
@sergionuno
@sergionuno 23 дня назад
Actually, there are many complaints from costumers in china about rust, and other problems.
@johnmanderson2060
@johnmanderson2060 Год назад
As someone said in the comments, it looks like galvanic induced rust, probably due to incompatible metals, probably the bolts themselves have a metal composition not compatible with the car’s body panels.
@3trythis185
@3trythis185 Год назад
Whatever the reason the problem remains until it is fixed.
@sputnik94115
@sputnik94115 Год назад
The first thing I thought of also was galvanic rust. It plagued GM cars of the ' 70's, noticicibly the Chevy Vega. They rusted at just the thought of moisture. It was common to see the windshield frames rusting away. This would not happen on a Volvo, you can be sure.
@jasoncatt
@jasoncatt Год назад
@@sputnik94115 I wouldn't be so sure now that Volvo are Chinese owned...
@stvybaby
@stvybaby Год назад
Rust increases if there are electrical grounding issues?
@johnmanderson2060
@johnmanderson2060 Год назад
@@stvybaby I think it is more a problem of metal alloys incompatibility creating currents at contact points. On boats they have sacrificial metal blocks in direct contact with the water to manage galvanic corrosion, these catalyst blocks gets eaten by the corrosion and by so protect the ship hull of rust.
@tonywei423
@tonywei423 Год назад
I will still buy it even with rust problem, as it unlikely become serious issue. More then happy to save $30K
@hanfucolorful9656
@hanfucolorful9656 Год назад
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔I searched in Chinese, and I also found many articles complaining about Tesla's rust. It seems that human beings have encountered new problems. If you are near a substation, there will be electrostatic effects. Substations generate extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields. The actual impact on the surroundings is mainly the electromagnetic induction effect, such as the static electricity generated when taking off a sweater in a dry environment. .For cars with batteries (Tesla, BYD), the body will be charged with static electricity, and every discharge (in humid air) will complete an oxidation process, which may be the root cause of electric car rust.😩😩😩
@Notme-tq4xs
@Notme-tq4xs Год назад
No articles on Tesla rust. Post a link.
@LuisNeves
@LuisNeves Год назад
It's not at all acceptable. That much in a few months? In Europe that is a big NO. And it's a structural issue - you might have it and be totally oblivious until is too late. Now I understand the shady warranty conditions.
@remakeit2628
@remakeit2628 Год назад
Have a good look and you will see the rust is superficial AND isolated to certain fixings. IF there was a rust problem there would be no shiny metal visible. This is the biggest storm in a teacup I have seen from Viking. I tool a BYD taxi ride over 10 years ago (ICEV of course) so I know BYD has well over a decade of experience making cars. BYD has most of the top 10 NEV selling models in China because they are a trusted brand. And the morons on this site that think you can't say bad things about a company in China have no idea of the power of China's social media.... they Murdoch media look like a kindergarten.
@christopherhamilton5557
@christopherhamilton5557 Год назад
“Production is hard.” Steven Mark Ryan, Solving the money problem RU-vid channel.
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@MarksElectricLife
@MarksElectricLife Год назад
I think he was quoting Elon Musk.
@mherstik
@mherstik Год назад
@@IceCubebecd howdee bot
@joenavarro2973
@joenavarro2973 Год назад
Not All engineering is software. Legacy absolutely has a huge advantage in making vehicles that last in terms of Year's, not cycles. The steel is also thinner now. 100 years of monopolies tend to do this though. EV engineering absolutely need to concentrate more on quality (how many years should it last). Rust is never a good thing
@DimitarBerberu
@DimitarBerberu Год назад
That's why I will never spend big money (Tesla or so) as you can neer see what's inside & you leave the car exposed to harsh conditions. Better to buy new BYD Seagull (level $13-21k+ AU charges) every 7 years & not think about cumulated mechanical issues. Everything should be refurbished/upgraded to more effective tech as the tech cycles are becoming shorter.
@GET2222
@GET2222 Год назад
Rust is rust is rust… how are these cars going to last 20 years with that much rust!? Hitting your head on a B PILLAR is how people die in even the smallest of accidents. My 7 year old MX doesn’t have any rust I have looked at it up on a hoist when swapping out my seasonal tires twice a year. This BYD will be a rust bucket.
@knuth.nyhagen82
@knuth.nyhagen82 Год назад
Check facts; Norway is a salt country, due to safety - all roads receive an incredible amount of salt every winter to reduce the risk of ice. And therefor the importer of BYD in Norway, make an extended anti-rust treatment on every BYD they deliver. Well, this isn't special to BYD, all car importers - no matter driveline has done this for 30 years at least in Norway. So BYD will not rust more, or quicker than any other brand. We still remember the first 10 years with Japanese cars in Norway, when this was more or less ignored - and they only lasted for 10 years due to rust. But in the end of that time the Japanese understood. The Chinese already understand - from the beginning.
@渡海-q2w
@渡海-q2w Год назад
As for BYD's recent rust issue this so called expert ''EV viking'' didn't tell that the atto 3 had a body rework for the car that got crashed somewhere in china and that body was rusted by salt water. salt water corrossion is very serious. BYD is selling 40k cars a week in china and 10k exported every month overseas. This is not a prominent issue so please be pragmatic when discussing and keep your bias to yourself. Peace.
@hedland
@hedland Год назад
Sam...check out EVs and beyond on this subject....might be worth another video
@sudhirn344
@sudhirn344 Год назад
is this a clickbait Video? scaring potential BYD customers? Atto 3 Owners, please post honest opinions so that we would know. thanks.
@wolfheilmann774
@wolfheilmann774 Год назад
looks like galvanic corrosion. two slightly different steels create a battery effect on the contact surface
@harveybirdman74
@harveybirdman74 Год назад
Bog Your Dreams
@raymondmumford6255
@raymondmumford6255 Год назад
Lol 🤣😅🤣
@paulgoffin8054
@paulgoffin8054 Год назад
Well, when you pay $6000 for a car, what do you expect? Oh.. it's not $6000?
@philoso377
@philoso377 Год назад
Thank for being this up. I never thought that rust can be a killer in a used car collision. Should we begin crash test on used models?
@andrew7455
@andrew7455 Год назад
I think this rust appeared after the car accident and after the car was dissassembled and spent some time on the open air.
@rogerfroud300
@rogerfroud300 Год назад
The rusty area looks like it hasn't been passivated or undercoated in any way for it to rust like that.
@3trythis185
@3trythis185 Год назад
Keep telling yourself that, no proof either way. Would need to pull a good sample size apart and see if they have the rust. Alternatively just wait a couple of years and if it is a problem the car will fall to bits.
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany Год назад
If that were the case there would be more rust everywhere and not in specific spots like it was.
@andrew7455
@andrew7455 Год назад
@@OneIdeaTooMany , rust appears only on damaged places.
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel Год назад
Well after John Cadogan exposed that LDV ute in Qld that was a rust bucket, that started the alarm bells ringing.
@ensteffo
@ensteffo Год назад
So crashed car fished out of salt water developed rust? You cant submerge a car and not have it rust.
@hindesite
@hindesite Год назад
Hey, I live right on the beach and we all park our cars out on the street just across the road from the beach. This is Wellington, which is an extreme marine environment . Our cars do rust, but nothing like what those photos show. Mainly it is the subframes and underbody components like suspension, pipework, brackets etc. The bodywork itself stays fairly rust free. BTW I remember seeing that LDV uses in Aus had body panels rusting really badly, wasn't there a lawsuit about that. LDV blamed the owner for parking near a beach. Seems like some steel may be substandard, or treatment is not up to spec.
@Lifecoach7Ra
@Lifecoach7Ra Год назад
There where once famous Fiat and Alfa Romeo that rusted the same way! All due to Russian steel with too much sulfur in. We had a Giulietta from a special serie made with steel from Sweden and that car only had rust issue on the exhaust system we later changed. If we would still own that car it would cost a fortune now… BYD will however quickly loose market especially in Europe with such issues. Low cost on important parts does only pay for short and is a bad idea to earn trust and confidence. 🤑🤮😎🇨🇭
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@hindesite
@hindesite Год назад
@Lifecoach7Ra yeah, I had a Fiat 128 and rust was a slight problem. Still did 300,000kms though.
@emilioagudelo5787
@emilioagudelo5787 Год назад
@@IceCubebecd There is a new partnership now between BYD and Tesla . Each other will learn , BYD is a world leader on battery and Tesla on car manufacture .
@Soughanunna
@Soughanunna Год назад
Pretty scary for brand new BYD cars to have rust already. Best to buy a Tesla instead!
@tomharrington3195
@tomharrington3195 Год назад
I live on Miami Beach I am maybe a few hundred feet from the water. I had a Tesla M3 for four years prior to selling it and buying a M.Y. I have also had a BMW 3 and many Lexus. I have never seen a bit of. rust on any of my vehicles. Seeing rust on a BYD vehicle after such a short time is not normal.
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw Год назад
The part where BYD car rust is hidden in the car and only exposed during a accident. I don't think you can see how much your car rust without being in a car accident
@littleherms3285
@littleherms3285 Год назад
That is an ALARMING amount of rust this soon. Especially in the areas it was found, structural connections. These cars will turn to swiss cheese in short order in a northern climate that uses de-icing. Maybe 5 years?
@markoverton5858
@markoverton5858 Год назад
That’s a huge resale problem they will have to sort by recall, or lose sales
@robinxiang333
@robinxiang333 Год назад
you can practically forget about resale for EVs older than 2 years. In China nobody wants 2nd hand Tesla as the new ones offer discounts.
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw Год назад
I don't think the recall will be a huge problem. Most of their car sales are in China and they dosen't have any major rust problem. So they only have to recall vehicle that's outside of China
@feizo
@feizo Год назад
Not even remotely worried. If atto 3 can withstand southeast Asia's humidity and temperature for almost 2 years without rusting, there's no reason to believe this isn't a one-off issue.
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
Fully Agreed. Also consider millions of Chinese live on the east coast from colder than Nordic Harbin to hot humid hong kong/shenzen and buy these in the gazillions for years. Chinese social media would have been on fire, they nitcpick on everything to the lastest greatest of chips..
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw Год назад
@@ciybersal9833 true. Chinese are known to be very loud sometimes.
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw Год назад
@@johnsmith-cw3wo yeah let's forgot that they protest against the CCP during the lockdown. And they also protest against the ban of firework in one of the province during the Chinese new year due to pollution. They do complain about the CCP. stop being delusional
@billrobinson3508
@billrobinson3508 Год назад
Or in the land of ice and snow, AKA Canada. We use lots of road salt. Buyer beware...
@andrewyu7403
@andrewyu7403 Год назад
Sound like BYD did not fill the treatment tank to adequate level.
@steveevans8506
@steveevans8506 Год назад
I was having reservations about the poor buying experience in Australia reported by some customers and now this, means a hard no on the Atto for me, looks like I'm off to MG or Ora where at least there is a bricks and mortar I can complain to when shtf.
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@hindesite
@hindesite Год назад
Having a dealer to complain to didn't do much for LDV ute owners (or Nissan Navara owners). Best to avoid any hint of rust issues. Manufacturers can learn from this, look at Toyota - 25 years ago Grier cars rusted badly, a lot of owners got burned. But Toyotas just do not rust now.
@ianburnett4605
@ianburnett4605 Год назад
@@IceCubebecd The pictures do not show Aluminium oxidation, shows Steel rust.
@SyntheticSpy
@SyntheticSpy Год назад
@@IceCubebecd Tesla wasn’t even mentioned in this comment. Why are you pasting the same reply under every comment?
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
@@SyntheticSpy Coz viking is showing his bias towards BYD yet American made Teslas have had quality/panel gaps/paint problems for over ten years yet he never made a single video almost 1500 or so he has made so far. The Quality Control problem has been widely reported globally for many years and this fanboy only picks on its rivals. Makes him biased which he claims he is not.
@ianburnett4605
@ianburnett4605 Год назад
Im glad I held off. Id be gutted to find out I'd bought a rust bucket. Really rust was a thing of the 1980"s, Not good enough at all in the 2020"s ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4rL0oftjRw4.html
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 Год назад
To be fair I doubt most BYD cars will last 10+years. This is a nothing burger.
@kennethadams5796
@kennethadams5796 Год назад
Go back to my previous comments and you will find that I have expressed dismay that you do not consider quality of the products from Chinese manufacturers often enough. Remember what I told you about LDV trucks rusting and legal cases in Australia?
@kapanda1142
@kapanda1142 Год назад
Like the rust and reduced safety protection correlation. Learned something new today.
@drphilgee6430
@drphilgee6430 4 месяца назад
DONT BUY THESE RUST BUCKETS
@PSmurf107
@PSmurf107 Год назад
Sam Sam, please tell us why you sold your Atto3? Mine is due for delivery very soon ands need to know especially now we hear about rust issues.
@Paul-gw9hy
@Paul-gw9hy Год назад
tesla will not rust not made of steel.
@dougsheldon5560
@dougsheldon5560 Год назад
Yeah, could see this coming down Broadway. Car manufacturers never learn. Saw a video of a Subaru. Not that old. They put it on a lift and stopped when it started bending in the middle. Completely rusted out frame. Had to replace the whole engine cradle on my Acura. Just no excuse.
@airheart1
@airheart1 Год назад
Yeah... pretty sure you should NOT have that kind of rust, on any decent car, at 6 months in. That is not ok. I think if you took apart any US or European made car at 6 months, you wouldn't see a spec of rust. I think most of us watch Munro quite a bit.. anyone seen any rust on their teardowns? I haven't. Would love to see them get their hands on one of these and give us their educated opinion. Screams, cost cutting and not a good sign. Could just be a bad manufacturing process.. maybe they can fix it. Or maybe this is their product.. and why it's as cheap as it is. Not getting me to buy that shit.. I can tell you that.
@ademcguinness8132
@ademcguinness8132 Год назад
I don't think they will be the first, or last with this problem as the MG4 (manufactured by Chinese conglomerate SAIC) also has potential to rust in key / critical areas (here in the UK), yes it rains a lot here but they arrived at the port / dealership with signs of surface rust (wheel bolts, especially) Signs of overly aggressive cost cutting to hit price perhaps ? In any event, not a great sign
@markeh1971
@markeh1971 Год назад
Hi, I went for a Leaf for this reason, new to market and no history could leave you holding the baby! Also of USA customers love the idea of the cyber truck with a Stainless Steel body for its corrosion resistance and it was their first comment. They spoke from experience and wanted vehicles that would last. I don’t miss rusty cars……. Take care all M.
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@mherstik
@mherstik Год назад
@@IceCubebecd wow buddy. Every comment huh. Good bot!!
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
@@mherstik Bot is you if u take sacrosanct to everything Viking utters. Millions of chinese living on the east coast buying into this brand for years despite heaps of choice. Is this even true? Viking has targeted BYD in the past but never addressed Tesla buld quality issues which are very well know globally for over decade. this Story Seems hypocritical at best and fake at worst.
@gregb1599
@gregb1599 Год назад
​@mac H Unfortunately even the good old Nissan Leaf has a potentially serious rust problem with its front suspension where water can get into this area and sit there and after many years of slow rusting can eat into that and the whole front suspension can fail! There is an easy fix, just need to remove the water rust treat it re paint the area then fit some covers
@Boris_Chang
@Boris_Chang Год назад
IMO this is the result of cutting corners to cut costs. Possibly, BYD used less rust protector, and/or perhaps didn’t dip the unibody in a rust-resistant bath. Chinese automakers will eventually figure out where they can and cannot cut manufacturing costs.
@bolychan2310
@bolychan2310 Год назад
Rust in the fastening part of the construction site is inevitable for almost all brands. When bolts and nuts are fastened, the rust-proof coating will definitely be destroyed. Generally, the original parts are basically fine, and the more the vehicle is repaired and dismantled, the more obvious it will be. Does not affect the safety, use and service life of the vehicle, just go to the car repair shop and have a look.
@waynefergusson9987
@waynefergusson9987 Год назад
within 6 months of manufacture ?
@mickjoebills
@mickjoebills Год назад
Photographs taken immediately after a NZ Atto crash showed rust between door hinge and B pillar. Normally hidden from view but exposed as the door was ripped off the hinges.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Год назад
Don't lie. No other manufacturer has rust issues like this. It stopped being acceptable over 20 years ago. BYD likely cut a corner and this is the end result.
@ChromeFlakes
@ChromeFlakes Год назад
This looks like it’s been dismantled then left out in the elements. Sure if there was rust bubbling through the paint it would be a concern. BYD have been making buses for a decade without them becoming rusty. Let Sandy Munro dismantle one and we’ll see if it’s rusty or not.
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 Год назад
The problem with this is that the car is barely on the road. It would be "acceptable" even for a 3-4 year old car but not something that barely has driven. I can only guess it happens to some other brands but that doesn't give excuse to them as well lol. I'm no expect on the subject, but if practically speaking rust issues downgrade the safety of the car that much then yeah i'd be concerned for a practically new car. And like he said in the video, in few years theres no way of knowing wether it can be deadly or not... But car companies should take the stuff you mentioned into more consideration anyway, not just BYD.
@DannChewie
@DannChewie Год назад
From the original poster that highlighted potential rust issues, it looks like the front and chassis were bolted together then dipped (galvanized/electroplated) instead of dipping individual parts such as the chassis first before bolting on the front hence there is rusting occuring at those areas. Are we over reacting? maybe. Would these sorts of issues be a problem in certain models by other brands? Perhaps.
@james_l4337
@james_l4337 Год назад
Don't think other traditional ICE car brand does this so early on
@DannChewie
@DannChewie Год назад
@@james_l4337 U would think so. At the moment can only wait till BYD respond. Fingers crossed it isn't a widespread issue....
@james_l4337
@james_l4337 Год назад
@@DannChewie Unfortunately it certainly is a wide spread issue. China companies need a hard lesson to wake them up. For Australia in most area this may not be a great problem, long run but for colder climate and coast area where salt is used, that rust will certainly get worse.
@DannChewie
@DannChewie Год назад
@@james_l4337 and other parts of the world where this is sold. Gonna be a very big issue
@alexlo7708
@alexlo7708 Год назад
I see many clips on garage's comments. They say rust cannot be get rid off whether manufacturers dip the whole car in protection solution or not. Because these connection joints as in clips no matter it is bolt nuts or spot welding points, These joints could not be reach covered by protecting solution such elctro plating or hot dip galvanized.
@corporatepsychobabble188
@corporatepsychobabble188 Год назад
The SAIC owned LDV have had serious rust issues with the T60 ute. Rather that dealing with the issue, the distributor of LDV in Australia (ATECO) blamed the owner for living too close to the beach. It went to court and LDV /ATECO lost badly, the judge finding that the their products failed to be of reasonable quality according to Australian Consumer law. This looks like history repeating... my advice is to stay away from BYD until they go factory direct and show that they will 100% own any and all issues.
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@paulb1951
@paulb1951 Год назад
@@IceCubebecd aluminium doesn’t rust, so try sticking to facts. It corrodes in very strong alkaline or acidic environments.
@alancobbin
@alancobbin Год назад
@@paulb1951 his replied the exact same thing to 20 other people,thankfully keyboard warriors are irrelevant👍
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
@@paulb1951 Fact is there are little to no reports of BYDs rusting other than this. They have sold in the millions in china where millions live on the east coast from colder-than-nord- northern Harbin to hot and sweaty Shenzen/Gaungdong/Hong Kong, probably more than combined population Europe/Australia. They are also selling in ASEAN islands of philipines, Thailand, Malaysia -the rusting capitals of the world but no problem reported like this yet Also fact is viking is picking on BYD recently and also calls himself unbiased yet never ever picks on any of Tesla's numerous problems for over a decade (all1500+ videos). BYD is also outselling his favourite brand in numerous countries and gaining traction in europe. Call spade a spade, The "@worrying rust issues" headline is sensationalism /clickbait until proven otherwise.
@Notme-tq4xs
@Notme-tq4xs Год назад
@@IceCubebecd I see no Tesla rust reports. Tell us or knock it off.
@paulmmurray3733
@paulmmurray3733 Год назад
China and India do not use Hot Dip Gal protection for their respective home market vehicles. They only use HDG for export market vehicles. Check out Auto Expert's latest YT Vid for an honest engineering perspective on the BYD ATTO3 rust issue and other Chinese manufacturers. Very enlightening!
@sergionuno
@sergionuno 23 дня назад
AHAHAHAHA i warned you all about this, but you didn´t believe me, Chinese vehicles are no good, rust issues, bad welding, bad assembly, electrical failures, electrical malfunctions, and this is not just one brand, is with all their vehicles, even their motorcycles that are made of "Chinesium". Chinese brands wont last that long, leaving you without any more assistence and parts avaiable, and their cars wont last two years without somekind of critical malfunction. don´t believe the new car reviews from some people, they are being sponsored by them, check out the "one year living with a chinese car" reviews, and you will see that im not the only one complaining. Buy them at your own risk, its your money, me? i will stay away from them.
@kenshin198406
@kenshin198406 Год назад
Hey Sam, will you still be doing an in-depth review of your Atto 3? Looking forward to hear your unfiltered views on your ownership experience so far.
@nq6417
@nq6417 Год назад
Does he even own an EV?
@gregb1599
@gregb1599 Год назад
​@@nq6417 Nope good old Electric Viking is back to being a non EV owner after over 18 months of starting his channel lol
@dxelson
@dxelson Год назад
@@gregb1599 this channel is literally to fund his wife's medical care, cant blame him lmao. Even wrong ev information sells nowadays
@richard--s
@richard--s Год назад
@@gregb1599 stage 4 cancer.
@gregb1599
@gregb1599 Год назад
@Richard S Yes and it is very sad and I think the Viking is nuts not to spend every last minute with his wife. But Sam did start his channel 18 months ago and as far as I am aware she was not sick then. And I stand by my comment cancer and all other life threatening diseases are free in Australia. And they have a very good support system that helps with payments for not working. So no reason to sell his Atto 3 when he could of sold his polluting ICE BMW. Am I wrong? Probably I always seem to be wrong but I just question why after 18 months of bashing ICE that he still drives one...
@paultodd9301
@paultodd9301 Год назад
A relative of mine worked all his working life in a major UK steelworks and firmly believed that the reason that Japanese cars didn't rust so much in the 1970-80's when all other nationalities vehicles were rusting severely was because the Japanese manufacturers insisted on "double rolled steel" and everyone else didn't. So perhaps one of the reasons (apart from cheaper labour) that Chinese vehicles are less expensive is that the quality of steel being used is inferior.
@beatmeierbm
@beatmeierbm Год назад
well i did gazillions of rust repairs in a Toyota Dealership through the early 80is
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 Год назад
Car age is measured in winters in New York, where they spread car solvent on the roads 5 months out of the year. If you get ten years you're lucky. Surface rust you can see and fix, but internal unibody rust means you junk your car. I remember when exhaust systems were made of plain steel and you'd get two years out of them.
@MrAtlantis95
@MrAtlantis95 Год назад
Can this cause claims for BYD? It looks to me that BYD has the is not on the same level as VW or a Tesla.
@colinwp8285
@colinwp8285 Год назад
Wow, just wait until north European and UK roads get hold of them with piles of road salt. What Also Romea use to be is now BYDs nightmare. Cutting corners with anti rusk treatment, good paint and good design never works.
@alancobbin
@alancobbin Год назад
They are a 10 year car then chuck them away,I’m waiting to see how the MG4 holds up,in hind sight avoid Chinese cars
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@feizo
@feizo Год назад
Mg4 is Chinese car too
@alancobbin
@alancobbin Год назад
@@feizo correct 👍
@hal3137
@hal3137 Год назад
Add to this the front end fires in China and Thailand brake rotor cracking .
@IceCubebecd
@IceCubebecd Год назад
Tesla has some issue rust issues。They both use All-aluminum body。BYD learn from Tesla. Tesla will rust certain humidity。😃😃😃
@渡海-q2w
@渡海-q2w Год назад
No fires at all why spew lies?
@paulb1951
@paulb1951 Год назад
@@IceCubebecd are you a bot, you’ve put this exact reply numerous times, just like a bot.
@pinonnut
@pinonnut Год назад
Made in ….. replacement land
@8bitbender495
@8bitbender495 Год назад
in Denmark we always protect our cars from rust, we salt the roads like the plague, that's why undercarriage protection is important
@jeffbangkok
@jeffbangkok Год назад
1979 in the states I bought a New Mazda pickup that the fenders rusted through in 6 months. Mazda replaced them on all trucks but I'd sold it by then. I'd hoped manufacturers had cured that problem.
@jeffsmith7369
@jeffsmith7369 29 дней назад
When you strive to produce the cheapest cars in the world, you are likely to cut corners. We are starting to see evidence now of where the Chinese have focused their cost cutting.
@peterlau6000
@peterlau6000 Год назад
BYD Atto 3 in both Australia and New Zealand has 6 years/150,000 km factory warranty on the vehicle body. So if other Atto 3 owners find such issue, they can request BYD Australia to fix, No ? Referring to dismantled parts from a wrecked car as an evidence of quality issues seems misleading at the very least.
@gzcwnk
@gzcwnk Год назад
No rust is not normal in such a new car. The thing is what is the anti-rust protection like inside structural items? Seems BYD etc is going to learn the hardway as Lancia and Fiat did in the UK. In fact I think Lancia stopped selling in the UK for some years as a result.
@akie64
@akie64 Год назад
What a flipping joke, not so great now aren't they?. This is why I'll stick to Japanese manufacturers who basically invented modern rust prevention.
@hughvines4585
@hughvines4585 Год назад
Slap on a little bondo. Good to go. It will outlast the batteries
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 Год назад
I am surprised you can say you have the luxury of shares in BYD yet have a begging platform for your wife's medical situation. Very disappointing and I am withdrawing my support under a different name.
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 Год назад
If people are wondering why some cars are more expensive than others, even if they aren't from a "fancy" brand and it competes against a similar car in its category... This is one of the reasons why. Equipment can be similar, performance and economy can be similar, the driving experience can be similar... But the assembly itself and attention to detail is different. I'm not saying any car should be built like a 4th gen Golf, but if BYD won't be able to deliver same safety results or close to when it was new in couple of years or so then yeah it would be concerning for the company. And no i'm not trying to diss on BYD, if any car won't be able to do that then they aren't really that much worthy.
@charleschen4766
@charleschen4766 Год назад
Hope Sam understands the build quality of BYD EVs now. The unprecedented production ramp without quality control leads to a disaster.
@Oatmeal-Savage
@Oatmeal-Savage Год назад
Well, you need to remember, the cars ARE Chinese.. and therefore, the quality is Chinese. I'm not shocked in the slightest that their EVs are rusting out from under people.
@aftonline
@aftonline Год назад
John Cadogan put out a good video on this. His point is that we don't know if the BYD's are galvanized or not, but if they are, then a few localised rust problems are not going to spread and become an issue.
@simonmiller5118
@simonmiller5118 Год назад
As John Cadogan said in his video, it's most likely just occurring as surface rust in areas where the galvanic protection can't get in between assembled parts during the galvanizing dipping process. If they are in fact properly galvanized then it won't be a problem as the zinc coating will act as a sacrificial material to prevent the spread of oxidation through the steel in these localized areas.
@FalkinerTim
@FalkinerTim Год назад
If they are galvanized.
@rob2738
@rob2738 Год назад
Our Chinese built Tesla had very poor paint that chipped ridiculously. So bad we sold it after 3 months!
@maidenaholic
@maidenaholic 8 месяцев назад
I wouldn't buy anything chinese. Have you seen their crash tests? Bloody ridiculous
@keithnewton8981
@keithnewton8981 Год назад
You have just made an unsubstantiated claim with no evidence to back your statement. You need to be very careful about making statement about rust when you do not have any factual evidence. There a huge difference in a rusting and you need to be 100% truthful about your statement as there are different types of rust . Be very careful because Chinese domestic cars my be build different to export vehicle ie galvanised and non galvanised steel many domestic cars do not use the same steel and export vehicles. This has been common practise for a long time
@erich623
@erich623 Год назад
I think you make some big assumptions, based off of the observed corrosion. Just a video highlighting that there is rust showing on the Atto 3s would have been sufficient.
@keithnewton8981
@keithnewton8981 Год назад
Yes rust affect crash testing these test where done yearsvago in Europe that why European car do rush that much from late 1990s because we brought in regulation around protection.
@bangkock-cv5no
@bangkock-cv5no Год назад
Fake issue. He said that he wrecked the car. And when there is an accident the well tightened parts rub on each other extremely and the surface gets damaged so that water can creep into the cracks. That's why you only see rust at the tightening spots. Does not happen under normal operation. With ICEs that's another story since they are under permanent stress du to the vibration of the drivetrain. So ICEs are the ones which have the real issue. Taking apart a vehicle that one wrecked before and then pretending that it says something about a car that didn't get wrecked is intellectually dishonest. .
@3trythis185
@3trythis185 Год назад
Very good news, hopefully the Chinese military built their aircraft etc the same way. Western countries won't have to do anything other than short wait to neutralize the China threat.
@chocolums
@chocolums Год назад
Useless car in Denmark contry sorrunded by salt water….price her 47665.67 USD omg…
@ghuiteldot-fd8vh
@ghuiteldot-fd8vh Год назад
Same BS as many claimed about Tesla. How do you want to prove that they didn't manipulate these areas so they start to rust - like every car does that isn't made out of stainless steel? And no: not every surface rust goes further...there are even metals where the initial rust serves to protect the metal.
@stevesteve7490
@stevesteve7490 Год назад
Are they galvanized? Chinese vehicles have a very patchy track record with gal, which is a bit of an issue in Aus, where we all live on the coast...
@nkau7788
@nkau7788 Год назад
This is how you make an affordable EV. You cut corners.
@bertveilleux1701
@bertveilleux1701 Год назад
Low quality Chinese products, I’m shocked!
@johnb7430
@johnb7430 Год назад
Imagine after 5-6 years in the upper midwest of USA where they use road salt and sprays. Probably will be falling apart. But, don't they use large aluminum castings for structural members and bodies? Wonder how much steel they use AND what grade? Cheaper grades rust faster
@Siddarable
@Siddarable Год назад
As I understand it the Chinese retire cars early in there life as a result government regulation. If that is the case you may see rusting because there planned life span is expected to be short. Why spend a few dollars on rust protection if the car is going to end in scrap yard well before the rust can become a problem?
@STOLSPEED
@STOLSPEED Год назад
I worked for many years on cars from wrecking yards. This looks very much like they unbolted that cross-member or whatever component was bolted there. Until then the paint/dip sealed that joint and I'll bet no rust was seen at that time. Then sitting in the weather in a wrecking yard with bare metal exposed shows exactly as much rust as I'd expect.
@FalkinerTim
@FalkinerTim Год назад
Cadogan admitted this could be the case.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Год назад
My roses have rust. They perform very poorly in crash tests. In short, rust is always bad news.
@erenkuc2271
@erenkuc2271 Год назад
Look obviously when a car has a accident it goes to a panel shop correct insurance pulls the car apart I know for a fact that if your a little to rough with the impact gun it will strip paint as you said the metal requires the paint to be rust free like a protective layer maybe this is the reason too be 100 percent sure we need to see a car that hasn't been hit and or pulled apart we will have to see if it Carrys on to the dolthin ea1 or if it's a model thing
@sofranebosma1957
@sofranebosma1957 Год назад
What a surprise!! Don't buy a brand that's new on the market. Buy a brand that has proven itself, don't gamble with things that cost a lot of money.
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 Год назад
For a lot of people buying Teslas it's not a lot of money to them, all it is is pocket change. But your comment holds #Value for those people who have to get a 7 year Loan in order to be a owner of a Tesla or an expensive EV or ICE Vehicle.
@ciybersal9833
@ciybersal9833 Год назад
Yes keep buying Teslas which have the widest reported quality issues of any EV manufacturer on earth for the last decade or so. FACT.
@wayneo7220
@wayneo7220 Год назад
Buy it with rust-colored paint. Problem solved.
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