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@MidoCounters Год назад

I discovered this recently, and immediately requested PRO licenses for the whole team so we could all work on reports, instead of using SharePoint folders with no coauthoring. Now, working with published datasets in PBI Service, users can work simultaneously on reports with little to no issue. This has been revolutionary to us!

@lhoussineelomari5689 Год назад

Hello, Not sure 2 users can edit the same model simultanously ? Versioning need to be set as all actions are saved automatically.

@B23329 Год назад

well... for complex queries probably it would be better to have it on powerBI desktop. Or complex data models. But, if you have deployed a report via desktop and change it online, it would be better not to forget and update it also on desktop...

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, it can get really messy with both options not in sync. Once it is possible to do everything in the service I will stick to it.

@aerobrain2001 Год назад

As a Mac user this is music to my ears :-) but as you say, in general having it cloud based makes so much sense in terms of management and ease of access. In my last job I enjoyed moving my datasets all into the service, so this is a great next step

@CurbalEN Год назад

Agreed ! Looking forward to see it fully functioning :)

@ianstuart2244 Год назад

Editing is fine and I think this is great. Unless I am mistaken you cannot create a dataset from anything other than Excel, csv or manually entering data. Until we can connect to Dataflows and all other data sources, Power BI Desktop will have a place methinks.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, the workaround for that for now could be to get the data in the desktop and then edit everything in the service

@thomasivarsson1291 Год назад

You have two main groups of Power BI developers. The ones with Power BI desktop and the ones with combinations of desktop , Tabular Editor and ALM toolkit. For pure Power BI desktop developers I think you are right. Tack för en bra video!

@CurbalEN Год назад

Tack själv! :)

@StephaneSmarties Год назад

It looks like a great improvement. The automatically saved changes with no going back is tricky though. You need to validate changes before touching a production environment. Instead of validating on desktop, you’ll need an additional test environment in PBI service.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Agree! Probably they will change that :)

@abhijeetghosh27 Год назад

This is amazing news 😀 I too second with you on your guess. There is high possibility that we will see co-authors, version control features all coming in near future releases and Yes, once this gets fully implemented we can be platform independent 🙌👍

@CurbalEN Год назад

💃💃

@MartinBentancour Год назад

This is amazing, even with the limitations it has. I'm not always on Windows, and sometimes when I'm on the go the battery life of my "portable" workstation means that I have to be next to a power outlet.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, same here!

@leemorgan8007 Год назад

I may be missing it but there are lots of things it can't do yet from within the query editor. Great step in the right direction and can make some amends to the report whilst being mobile.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Exactly!

@pranaykrishna3617 7 месяцев назад

That's really Great Mam, can u please suggest how to import data into power bi

@moth_la Год назад

The data model is created in Power Query - that relationship view is only a visual representation of it with the cardinality specified. Not really what I would call editing the data model from the dataset perspective. Sure you could setup dataflows or datamarts in the service, but that's still not the relationship view.

@CharudattaAmbekar Год назад

Hi, Thanks for this video. It is really great news. Any idea, how the gateways are handled when using on-premise data sources?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Probably the same way? Just guessing though

@malcorub Год назад

You scared me.... I love PBI desktop. I use it like Excel for quick analysis of smaller data sets that are too large for Excel.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Probably not going anywhere anytime soon but the service is a great addition :)

@feng3625 Год назад

It's an excellent feature for editing. But I could not see the data view.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Hopefully soon! 🤞

@calvinhaposan4137 Год назад

How to edit query? For power query..

@saisatya5525 Год назад

This is really awesome so excited to use this all options like web 🎉 Thanks

@CurbalEN Год назад

Dont forget to give them feedback too!

@hashimsalim3944 Год назад

This sounds like a game changer - can you also load data from different sources directly to the cloud now?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Only a few, hopefully more coming!

@HachiAdachi Год назад

I was listening to a podcast a while back (BIFocal, I think) in which a PBI PM (I forget who) was discussing PBI's web authoring features in a manner that made me think that Power BI will maintain both the Desktop and the web UI, similar to Office 365. Yesterday's pre-announcement from MS regarding the improved integration with OneDrive/SharePoint makes me hopeful that they ARE moving in that direction 😁 Also, anxious to find out what all the hubbub is about the scheduled PBI announcements during upcoming Build... 🤔

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes, that is my guess too, although when both do the same I will pick the one on the service always :)

@krishnap8715 Год назад

Thanks for your update..

@keagankemp6275 Год назад

Does this mean that we are able to transform the data in the service as well?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes! The beginning of it at least :)

@jayong2370 Год назад

I run PBI desktop in VMWare Fusion on my Mac. Downside is the wasted computer resources I need to run the VM. Would love to develop PBI report via the Service, but I’ll wait for others to report successes/issues before I try. Thanks for the video.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, I dont want to install a VM. I will wait until I can run it without it :)

@RonaldPostelmans Год назад

Nice option, i do hope that if you don’t have a paid license you still can keep using Power Bi in the future

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes, I agree and my guess is that they will keep it that way

@geraldains Год назад

Super para hacer ajustes rápidos. Se viene en cambio al parecer, pero aún no es inminente el fin del desktop. Ya que no se puede hacer transformación de datos ni la extracción desde otros sitios que no sea excel.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Si, todavia queda un poco pero ya van!

@drew3030 Год назад

I thought this video was glitching but I think my dog was leaning on the keyboard lol

@CurbalEN Год назад

😂😂 Lucky me!!

@varunkumar9538 Год назад

I just studied and finished my first power BI Project and I see this lady posting by bye bye Power BI😒

@CurbalEN Год назад

This lady is just telling you that in the future you might use only power bi in the service. Congrats on your first project!!

@PLBL Год назад

This is pretty major... any ideas on when we'll be able to use PowerQuery and edit the queries for each table from the service? (I know they already allow it for dataflows so surely shouldn't be too complicated)

@CurbalEN Год назад

Dont know I am afraid

@Crazy5exycurvy Год назад

Your prediction was pretty accurate lol - interested to know your thoughts about MS Fabric

@CurbalEN Год назад

Coming next week :)

@lauracamilamojica4391 Год назад

Do you think they will implement versioning tools as Git? If you edit the model online, can you still download it?

@CurbalEN Год назад

My guess and hope is yet, lets see!

@rs-tarxvfz Год назад

No version control only feasible if it was a CODE (text) but its heavy on binary stuffs so its far from coming any soon.

@shrirajdeshpande8125 Год назад

So it is becoming a cloud ETL solution... If it happens as you are briefing.... 💥

@CurbalEN Год назад

Lets see…

@hulltl Год назад

Yep maybe for a quick emergency fix at the dev stage of a deployment pipeline, but if you are in business you need basic backups version control and verification, so it is a big nope, imagine auto save on a big very valuable dataset that deletes a table, link or just changes a formula incorrectly. Nightmare

@CurbalEN Год назад

My guess and hope is that they will remove the autosave feature. Lets see…

@elrevesyelderecho Год назад

Thanks for the update and first review

@CurbalEN Год назад

My pleasure :)

@branislavpoljasevic2866 Год назад

Love the video, as usual, but I'm not sure about the title 😊 there still is one huge advantage for desktop - it's free. Just as a learning tool it won't be touched soon, but I see it around for a while longer anyway 😊

@CurbalEN Год назад

Power BI service for one person is free also. You can create the models there and download them if needed? As soon as they start churning version handling and collaboration (if that is the intent), it will be hard not to use it?

@branislavpoljasevic2866 Год назад

Hm, that's true too. I guess I'm used to thinking about the free pbi plan as just my workspace and all the limitations that it brings. But yeah, I totally forgot about it as an option. Especially useful for MAC users now instead of local or Azure WM

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes, that is going to be lovely :)

@Robinki-eo7nc Год назад

This is no go for me until they fix version handling and deployment pipelines. Auto save is super dangerous.

@CurbalEN Год назад

If you think about it, that is how Power Query works and we have managed, so even if I dont like it, it is not a show stopper for me!

@Robinki-eo7nc Год назад

@@CurbalEN We use a fully automated deployment pipeline (CI/CD) with devops and GIT. We separate dev/test/prod.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Well done!!

@DawnPeacockOwens Год назад

I'll have to try it. I have all my data on my computer so will have to figure out how to build datasets from OneDrive for Business or Sharepoint.

@CurbalEN Год назад

You can also publish your reports and test edit them in the service

@DawnPeacockOwens Год назад

@@CurbalEN our company hasn't enabled the preview for us yet, but here's another question. I attached a Workspace OneDrive to the the Power BI premium workspace. When we DO get access to the trial, will I be able to build a dataset from CSVs, folders, etc on that OneDrive similar to how I pull the data in from the desktop version?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Not yet, but hopefully soon!

@ZappPSR Год назад

There is a long way before the web version can really fully replace Desktop. For instance, you can't apply a JSON theme, and deal breaker, you can't see the contents of a table. I many times create auxiliary DAX Tables or just want to see the content of a column to write a Filter in a measure. Those things are not ready yet. Also., handling tables with millions of lines (lets say 40 million) is not an issue in a Power BI Desktop using import. But online, I was using Data Flow Gen2, Data marts etc... and they still struggle a little. A fully funcional up to the challenge all online version is more than welcome, but we are not there yet.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Agree, definitely not yet. Hopefully soon!

@atekee Год назад

my office computer is windows, but i often like to work remote at home on my own macbook computer. Does that mean that if I publish the datasource into PBI Service, I can create visuals on my macbook computer by logging into PBI service ?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes!! 😄

@erivaldolopes632 Год назад

Yeah. Too early to say. I have tried it and was not really comfortable with it. Is it for more collaboration or any end user can go and start changing the data model, measures, etc.?

@CurbalEN Год назад

I think is for collaboration, but lets see what they do with it..

@leandrochinelli9549 Год назад

It'll be a dream to use powerbi in my linux, also to have some sort of source control!

@CurbalEN Год назад

Hopefully soon!!

@jonathanogwumike6088 Год назад

It's about time!!! If Google can do it then Microsoft should!

@CurbalEN Год назад

And they will :) 🥳🥳

@visheshjjain Год назад

Can users assigned to contributor role edit the data model? Is there any documentation for it?

@CurbalEN Год назад

The link to the docs is in the description box of the video.

@EricaDyson Год назад

Hmm.. not quite with you on this one. No undo???? Automatic save? Undo is the MOST important button in development isn't it? This requires a development environment or extra datasets to test things out before going "live". Not too confident about this.

@CurbalEN Год назад

I dont like the automatic save, but everything else, i hope it comes soon! And note that Power Query does not have an undo button either, we will have to cope the same way for now!

Год назад

Create Dataset seems not possible (except excel, csv and manually entered data as known in the past), just edit is possible. But i hope so that Power BI will be a fully cloud application. Courious if Azure Data Studio and co will follow... And courius aboult all external Tools like Tabular Editor, DAX Studio and Co...

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, lets see what happens :)

@earlnoli Год назад

the only issue i have is git. Can i download the pbix file?

@CurbalEN Год назад

I think so, if it is not too big.

@hi_vishy Год назад

I dont see the data model setting in the workspace setting

@CurbalEN Год назад

Maybe your workspace admin has not enabled that for you?

@decentmendreams Год назад

Very limited editions. The only benefit is writing Dax and table connections. There is no way I will consider abandoning Desktop Just only with this light upgrade .

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yes, too early but it is coming!

@lescamp79 Год назад

Hmm, I’m good. The desktop isn’t like using iTunes.. there’s a good reasons to developing models on desktops .

@EricaDyson Год назад

For sure PQ does.. you can undo steps without difficulty. Sorry.. not quite with you on this one ( a first). It will require a new workflow... version history and a development environment like WordPress.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Dont worry, i am looking forward to work only on the service!!

@ohmyads3d Год назад

Power BI desktop is retiring? Any link to show ?

@CurbalEN Год назад

It is not retiring but a comparable tool is being built in the service. Link is in the description box

@pieterlinden8292 Год назад

Hopefully the online version isn't as absolutely horrible as the desktop version. Oh wait, I can't work online because I can't even use my MSFT email from my Office sub. What a ----ing joke. Makes me want to use Tableau.

@CurbalEN Год назад

😖

@decentmendreams Год назад

Small improvement but miles away .

@CurbalEN Год назад

It goes fast!

@decentmendreams Год назад

@@CurbalEN this is what always befuddles me about PBI development. Why can’t they just integrate a Tabular Editor Level of dexterity? For me that would be truly a paradigm shit . If they are stretched thin, pay the man and let him make it in his own image .

@CurbalEN Год назад

I have pledge the same 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

@decentmendreams Год назад

Watching the MS Build presentation and it seems they have incorporated a lot of the TE themes and functionalities . Do you agree Ruth ?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Havent seen it yet, will check next week!

@aatsw Год назад

This is a bit confusing. Are you saying that one can choose to not use PBI Desktop or simply that PBI Desktop would disappear ie become unavailable to all and sundry? Not everyone likes to go on a cloud-based browser version, a desktop app is quite nice and in fact better for those who work with actual computers. I hope Microsoft is not removing the desktop app altogether.

@CurbalEN Год назад

I am saying that you will be able to choose :)

@Curiousexplorer797 Год назад

Too early to say :) But thanks for the valuable update as always!

@CurbalEN Год назад

My pleasure :)

@nativecascadian4141 Год назад

If we can move the entire service into the cloud it will be an AMAZING day.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Agree!

@notoriousft Год назад

It's definitely not bye bye yet.

@CurbalEN Год назад

Not yet, but getting close!!

@killarz0 Год назад

If you look at this update combined with the new features related to Data Marts and Deplotment Pipelines, it does indeed look like Microsoft is moving in the direction of eliminating Power BI Desktop long term. However, Data Marts and Deployment pipelines being a premium feature will keep Desktop alive for the plebs 😂

@CurbalEN Год назад

The desktop will probably survive but my guess is that it will have less features. Less see…

@youngyingyang Год назад

I don't mind if all changes are saved, Microsoft just provide a version history!!

@CurbalEN Год назад

They did? Where? 😳😳

@hamishmaxa6509 Год назад

@@CurbalEN I think it was more a request. They do provide version history for powerapps from which you can restore previous saved versions. So maybe this will come for power bi service to?

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, that is what I am hoping ! 🤞

@namiland_movie Год назад

You'll still depend on Power BI Desktop, as at now, the last time I don't think you can open an excel workbook and work on it on Power BI server.

@CurbalEN Год назад

For now you can add the sources in the desktop and then edit in the service . Not optimal but this is still in Beta

@namiland_movie Год назад

@@CurbalEN do you still it will be a feature? Microsoft Windows Advantage over Apple Macintosh

@CurbalEN Год назад

Not sure what you mean? You mind asking again?

@namiland_movie Год назад

@Curbal was asking if you'll be able to open excel workbook in Power BI Sever and work on it

@CurbalEN Год назад

Probably in the future, but is just my guess

@DataHacker Год назад

Meh.. Until we web does not have full functionality, I will not use ir. I love my Tabular Editor 😁

@CurbalEN Год назад

I will keep tabs on it and update you guys when they make serious progress :)

@DataHacker Год назад

@@CurbalEN I was just trying to play with the feature. I just realised that there is no query editor. So you have to use PBI Desktop to do initial table build in Power query. I guess building queries will come at some point, but for now feature has a very limited application. I was hoping to be able to build one project, that I can only pull off using Tabular editor at the moment. I am sure you would be interested in the idea too :)

@CurbalEN Год назад

Yeah, it is a bit limited for now, but they said in the blog post that they want to achieve parity with the desktop, so lets see!

@akshaykhiste9104 Год назад

Good, Qlik sense has this from beginning.

@CurbalEN Год назад

It does!

@ghadamhmd6347 Год назад

is this on paid powerbi version?

@CurbalEN Год назад

And free too :)

@AlexSmolyakov-im5gn Год назад

Free User cannot apply model changes, upgrade to PowerBI Pro. Its time to buy PowerBI Pro.

@CurbalEN Год назад

You can still do this on a single powerbi.com license. No need to buy pro

@DanielCupakTUR Год назад

So actually no bye bye? 😂

@CurbalEN Год назад

I should put a question mark to it! 😂

@DanielCupakTUR Год назад

@@CurbalEN no worries, thanks for the heads up, it was informative as always!

@Wzxxx Год назад

I definitely prefer desktop.

@CurbalEN Год назад

For now it is the better one, but i have a hunch that will change. Lets see!

@Wzxxx Год назад

@@CurbalEN Yeah, but working on web browser, I just hate this feeling. Always less space, always slower, depending on cennection. Nope! The feeling is less pro:) Every person I know who works in BI prefer desktop. I would never chose browser over application

@CurbalEN Год назад

That is ok, the desktop will probably stay like for excel