A visit to the Rotherham scrap yard were a lot of classic traction has met it's end classes 37/47/50/56 are seen awaiting there turn for the torch 31.3.98 Produced by Nablicman for LOCO TV UK. 2013.
Sign of the times really. Sadly nothing lasts forever but there is a good amount of these locomotives in preservation. So not all is lost thankfully. But the attitude with the majority of the companies is out with the old and in with the new. I might apply for a job at PSV Barnsley when the time comes for the Enviro 200/300 and 400 buses become scrap because I dislike them with a passion and I would love to see the 2007 year Enviro 200's get the cutting torch which the time is getting nearer as those buses are approaching 9 years old.
I can remember going to see Derby play at Millmoor and saw a couple of locos awaiting scrap. I hadn't seen the class before but pretty sure they were 76's? Am guessing it was around 1985.
I went to Millmoor in the Peter Taylor era, (23-04-1983 to be precise according to the program 1-1 score ) and seem to remember having to walk through a scrapyard to get to the away end or maybe a fenced walkway through it
Multiple units brought about the demise of many loco's. There was still loco hauled services in 1998, but far too many spare loco's laying around with no work for them.
I take it the yellow jackets in the yard towards the end of the video weren't impressed, out of curiosity what would a loco shell minus the engine and bogies etc weigh?
@beans lmao Giving correct information as always. I know far more about the industry than most rail enthusiasts. To my knowledge, no steam locos were scrapped at Booths. It was not on the BR lists of external contractors for scrapping steam locos.
@@lukeslocomotives 31 if you include the 1936 rebuild, but there were only ever 30 in the class as the rebuild took the same name as the loco it replaced. They were scrapped mostly at Cox and Danks, Swindon works, and Cashmores. There used to be a good video on You Tube called three Kings ready to be cut up at Cashmores but it has been lost for the moment. Interestingly the first thing they cut were the rear driving wheels. The dock lines at Cashmores Newport were tight radius curves and the Kings being large and heavy got stuck. The wheels are usually cut last but in this case were first to go. The video comments were full of foamers abusing Cashmores and saying cutting the wheels first was stupid but I explained the method for them.
+heelfan1234. The cycle of evolution. Nothing to boast about mate :). Especially as many other examples from the same class of locomotives are enjoying life in preservation (or rotting in sidings because of lack of funding etc).
***** Yes, you have hit on a great point there. Nearly 50 class 37's preserved, many of them rotting away in sidings. The lack of funding is due to lack of public interest. We are preserving just because "we can." No thought given to the environment or whether there are enough people who want to see this number of locomotives. 3 or 4 examples would be more than enough. Then you get idiots who comment on these videos who want every single one preserved. Are they going to pay with their own money? No, they just expect "them" to do it whoever "them" are. They have no idea of finance and the fact that railways exist for other reasons than railfans and thoughtless preservationists.
heelfan1234 You are talking nonsense. Why do you want these beautiful locos scrapped. I've seen your comments on Train_Plane hubs HST video. Antmans video on the Eurostar scrapping and one on the maellard. I think your spamming. Go away and stop talking rubbish.
Many of these have been around since the end of steam that's near 40 years ago and they are worn out. someone says that they look in good condition but that's just paint the engines , transmissions and frames have done their work, many parts are obsolete and have been stripped of these scrappers to keep the working fleet going British rail or whatever your local bit is called has to keep replacing and when something is replaced just like your car the old one has to be disposed of and that is the way it has always been. hence the early steam Patriot class where based on scrapped Claughtons.
60% of these Locos have sound Diesel engines and generators, it’s outrageous to scrap them, each one could provide electric for a small off grid hamlet.
I don't think you understand scrapping. In many cases the reason these were retired was major work or replacement was needed on prime mover or generator. For those that had good components, Booths would remove and resell these parts. They are not luddite idiots. It's a carefully planned operation. The loco history and parts are reviewed and max value extracted from them. Only when components are not worth reselling complete, are they broken, and the metals extracted for scrap.
+Stephen Smith. Sign of the time bud. The evolution keeps revolving as new trains are produced and old ones are scrapped! :). The DMU's we see today will end their days here in 20-30 years time along with the Class 66's etc. Only to be replaced with more ghastly looking modern tack :).
To be honest folks. As much as I love the older trains. I would be more than happy to see a few of them in preservation rather than all the fleet in active well past its fit for purpose date with failures and the risk of the train falling apart in service. As the press would have a field day if that happened and everyone would want all the locomotives scrapped outright :).
They are just boxes on wheels big deal. In America a lot of redundant diesels are torn apart and modernised then put back into service. In Britain they have no grasp of economics they would rather scrap and then spend 5 to 6 million building new ones that only last 20 years. Scrap all diesels? Can Britain afford this odd line of thinking
Because we don't use locomotives as much as you anymore. Most mainline services are multiple units and there is not nearly as much rail freight as there is in the US. Where we have kept locomotives, a lot are new, but some are over 50 years old.
Most trains in the uk now are units locos are very rare because thay scraped them all. We do have modern diesel locos but thay dont have the same caricature as the old locos.
Only last 20 years? Plenty of ex-BR diesels are still going, e.g. the Class 37, the newest example of which is now just over 50 years old (built 1960-1965)
Most are foreign built and operated too. All these beasts were designed and built over here. Had we still had Brel, and BR, many of these would have been refurbished again. I seem to remember the replacements standing redundant all over the place in the early privatised era. The EU requires state owned railways to be privatised. One of the last industries we were self sufficient in is now dependant on imports. Frankly its a national disgrace. Surely they didn't scrap that guards van ?? Thanks for the upload.
Indeed, 40 years ago, you could look at Dai Woodham's Barry island scrapyard and weep. Looking at this lot, sorry but just a bunch of retired diesel units no-one wants. Bye bye.
The steamer's had a limitation that could never be fixed you had to shovel coal the bigger the engine the more coal and the harder the stoker/fireman worked and thats why they were slowly phased out - The inter war years created similar problems for all the countries
