Totally agree. I needed this video! I don't care about the R5c battery life, I don't care about the R5c HDMI port, but THIS is the BIGGEST problem on the Canon R5c. Absolutely ridiculous. I've wasted a whole day today trying to sort this out. Thank you DD!!
Let's hope we can raise enough attention. I would even be okay, if this could only be accessed with an external power option (like we have to use with 8K 60 with AF), as long as we had some way to access it. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
It is incredible that this is happening. Canon should change this and many other small details with an update. The worst thing is that it seems that they are not interested in the opinion of their customers. I have purchased the RS3 Pro Combo and have not used it yet. It's a jug of cold water for me because now I have an important production in which I will need to use that combination. Is there some kind of platform where we can make a joint claim? It might be a good idea to have a list of the changes we need in the future update.
100% support this, one of my biggest beefs with R5C, would also like to see Lightroom tethered compatibility, more of an Adobe issue but I'm sure Canon has a bigger voice.
I remember hearing that to make the R5C they took an R5 motherboard and a C70 mother board and squeezed it into an R5 body. That’s why it takes so long to switch but it may also be why you need to buy the battery grip. It may be that the Wi-Fi module on the Cinema side is absent and it isn’t comparable with the R5 Wi-Fi module. They may have thought of a “solution” to just charge for a battery grip that does Wi-Fi, which defeats the purpose of a small sized cinema camera.
I hope Canon would listen to this. I know Sony would seriously consider their customers. That’s why, lots of canon shooters move to Sony system recently and I am thinking about it.
Sono totalmente d’accordo con te, Canon fa della cose ridicole pensano d’essere dio in terra, purtroppo ho anche io una R5c e mi trovo con lo stesso problema, dopo avere spesso tanto. Purtroppo unico collegamento che ho con il Rs3 pro e solo con il cavo USB-c con una solo funzione che il pulsante del rec, complimenti per il video che fai sei di grande aiuto
Great video! Agree with your frustration. I “upgraded” to the R5c from the R5 and it really feels like a camera cobbled together at the last minute. Compared to the R5, the C’s lesser autofocus, missing bluetooth/wifi, extremely poor battery life, missing IBIS, dim EVF in video mode, slow switching from video to photo, lack of memory presets are so disappointing . The R5’s new firmware has pretty much eliminated the overheating issue making me think I should just sell the C.
No IBIS, very good. IBIS really sucks unless you want wobbly edges in video. For photo on the other hand IBIS is amazing. Who needs EVF in video mode? No gimbal, no monitor? Not using camera screen? Autofocus has never failed me and I shoot motorsports circuit/rallye so it's really rought for the C. Missing bluetooth and WiFi in video on the other hand is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. What the hell were they thinking when making the C. I still can't believe they didn't add it with the recent firmware update. Complete disaster.
You are exaggerating!! The only legit thing not present in the R5c is the wireless function in Video Mode! Everything else u said either doesn't exist [what dim EVF?? get your eyes checked!) or is just similar to the R5 or isn't that big a deal as you are making it... unless you DON'T KNOW how to tackle any problem! Admit it you dont own the R5c DO YOU??!!
Happy new owner of a Canon R5C here this summer 2023 - just saw your 6 tips for the DJI Ronin 3 pro which I'm currently waiting for and in your super fine YT you tell how you can't connect this camera... what the. .. we are now in August 2023, 10 months after your upload here... and several firmware updates later and so you would think they had fixed it, but booom still can't connect 🥲.
I bought the R5C especially for gimbal work. I found out it wasn't compatible with the Weebill 2 so I purchased a Ronin RS3 Pro. I was just setting it up trying to figure the bluetooth when I came across your video. Very frustrating
Absolutely 💯 true. So ridiculous 🙄!!! I was trying to find solution and I was surprised I pay so much and some simple function which I really need is missed ... feels like cheating a little. When I was choosing the camera I even didn't check that out because nowadays most basic cameras have this option 😅 but not Canon r5c ... totally worth having this fixed by Canon. The sooner the better.
I thought I was doing something wrong - THANK YOU for resetting me! I don’t usually comment on anything but wow. This is a very good camera but with some flaws around power, Bluetooth and micro HDMI. “Fixed” power with external battery, “Improved” cable with physical brace on camera but can’t do a damn thing about their Bluetooth myself. The external battery would add even more weight to the gimbal with the extra batteries working separately. Sony is looking very good - works better with the DJI Transmission too.
this kind of thing has been happeneing with all "smart" devices, not just the camera. cars that have software switch disabled features (cruise control for ex), even though the hardware exists in all car models (as it is cheaper to just produce the same HW config on all, and just use SW to enable/disable depending on how deep one's pockets are!).
Wow! Really disappointed that this video is a year old and no update that fixes this. Just picked up the new DJI RS4 Pro and was feeling crazy because I couldn't find how to connect Bluetooth in video mode and here is the reason why. Thanks for the information even if it is bad news :/
I found another problem. If you trying to use R5C for a photography and using external monitor, you cannot use your camera and external monitor together. It's either one or another. I can't even find an option for HDMI anywhere 😂
What a huge oversight! In a just world, Canon would immediately fix this and apologize. More likely in the real world: they'll promote the team that thought of doing it this way.
I’m on set right now, fully expected the wifi to provide the functionality I have experienced on my previous Canons, WTF CANON!!! How many moths has this camera been out!!!
Canon esta cometiendo un maldito abuzo con nosotros los que compramos esta cámara (EOS R5-C), ya que esta forzando a que saquemos de nuestro bolsillo $1.000.00. mas, sobre un monto que ya es elevado para cualquier usuario, yo espero y exijo que lo corrijan, por que eso transforma en una mierda una obra de arte como la EOS R5-C, abrazos amigo. y FELIZ AÑO NUEVO!!!!
R5C owner here and this is killing me to find out. I don't own an DJI gimbal yet but I do see a gimbal in my future. This is KILLING ME, please Canon fix this issue. I also already purchased the R5 battery grip with no idea that a $1000 specific R5C WiFi grip was on the way. UGH!!! please fix this.
PROBLEM SOLVED!!! Check the R5C manual page 12, picture "Name of The Parts". 25 Remote Control Terminal (front of camera). I use "Old Fashion" wireless remote control(Pixel) from my old Canon setup. Works fine with Photo and as well with Video. Only inconvenience was that I had to use little bit of knife to adjust cable connector to terminal when using Smallrig R5C Cage. I was pissed off for a moment before I read the manual. Basically any remote control with Canon remote terminal plug fits the bill. Off cause it's just start/stop, but extreme useful in solo work anyway. I hope Canon updates firmware for better solution.
@Super720com I know. As I wrote only stop/start works and BETTER solution is needed ... Remote Control Terminal is in another place than old DSLR cameras. First I thought that there is no possibility even traditional stop/start ... I use remote monitoring(iPad) and remote start/stop with R5C, I can't adjust shutter and ISO remotely and I won't spend 1600€ for hand grip. I found workaround solution for on camera audio. It is good camera but some workarounds are needed. With small external battery camera can be on from 4 to 5 hours. If you shoot with tripod and are behind the camera there aren't much issues. How do you build your rig matters more. Missing variable ND is only issue ... until you use old EF lenses with drop-in adapter.
This is NOT fixable in firmware. The reason that it doesn't work in video mode is that the camera uses too much power in video mode for the internal batteries, so that is why you need the Canon WFT-R10A, mostly to provide additional power.
I actually believe this could be addressed the same way the R5C requires you to use an external power source to access the full 8K 60 with AF. Seeing as how the OS and camera is already designed to have features that can only be accessed via more robust power solutions, I can't figure why this is not another one. I think many people would be completely willing to accept having to use a V-Mount to access this feature, that is already built into the body of the camera. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
This makes no sense. Maybe if we needed to have the fan on. But turning off should be an option too. The r5 is the same camera and does not have this issue
@@RockyMaiviaMiami It is not the same camera. The R5c uses the Cinema camera operating system which is not as efficient as the stills OS, look at how the AF struggles compared to the R5. The R5c draws a lot more power than the R5 in video mode. The R5c cannot power the lens when in 8K60. I think that it probably is able to power the WiFi/bluetooth with additional USB-PD power bank, so if they do enable firmware fix, it probably needs USB-PD power.
this battery issue is also a completely Software fixable issue. The reason it is so power hungry, is because it never stops oversampling, EVEN WHEN NOT RECORDING!!!. YES that means when ever you switch to video mode, it just starts oversampling for you to watch in the viewfinder or screen. I KID YOU NOT. If they only did the same as on the photo side of things, you would extend the battery life in orders of magnitude. If you want to test this out, try to hit the media button when ever you're not recording, and see for yourself. So by software updating alone, you could improve this camera not only for battery life, but also this insane wifi issue. But as it is you're correct in your assessment.
Do you guys even know how we can complain to canon? Their website is trash and labirintic. If we had one e-mail. We could bombard canon with requests for change
A year later and Canon still have not done anytging to fix this. I would also like to see support for the XC protocol on the R5C all the C70, C300, C500, XF605 and the PTZ units have support bit not the R5C it drives me nuts.
Thank you so much for raising this issue. I use the camera to film myself, and without remote monitoring/control, that is really difficult. Because of this, I’ll have to use Sony A7siii instead.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻 Fully agree with you, it’s a ridiculous situation. My other problem with R5C is that video mode tells me that CFExpress card is full, while there is still more than 40% capacity available…
@@DeafDirector I have two SanDisk CFExpress Cards (256, 512 GB) and both behave the same... Based on Canon support I low-level reformatted them, but still the same. I updated the firmware, but still the same issue. Cards are working well (e.g. on computer you can really copy there 500 GBs of data) Here is a picture of the situation. Can't record to the card, while there is still 100GB remaining... drive.google.com/file/d/15ZwG5Iw-o9CPVQgCkP6ikQtAzxLJAwK2/view?usp=sharing
@@JaroslavBengl That is a crazy, weird issue. Only thing I could suggest is to reset the camera to factory default and see if that fixes it, but I have no idea. Good luck!
I test drive this camera when it first came out…. I refused to buy it until they release a firmware update. That cinema OS is a copy and paste OS and wasn’t customized for the camera itself. Here’s hoping because it’s an amazing camera.
U might be right. One of the reasons why the battery depletes faster in video mode is coz they need to power the cooling fan. Many don't realize a lot of power isn't needed for that. It's not just a spinning plastic, there's actual active cooling that's being done and is perhaps why the Wi-Fi thing was disabled
That’s scary for me as this is on my dream equipment list, but not being able to connect to a gimbal is a big no-go for me. I hope @Rp Einstein is right about creating a new F setting? Have you followed up on this, @Deaf Director?
I checked up on Rp Einstein's suggestion, but based on everything I tried, it appears to be a dead end. Page 159 in the manual starts the whole Network Functions sections with notice that "to be able to use the following function networks, you will need to connect that WFT-R1- Wireless File Transmitter (sold separately) to the camera.
@@JaroslavBengl But in that case you'll not be able to shoot in 8K/60fps/RAW right? I don't think the RS gimbal would provide power delivery via the USB-C
Just bought the Ronin RS3 for my R5C and after watching this video I'm shocked and disappointed in Canon. That said... I should still be able to connect to do timelapse without connecting a cable like on my old Ronin-S.
I’m heavily invested in Canon (C70/R5C) and a lot of RF optic, I love Canon and don’t like Sony! But I am thinking of switching to Sony, that I don’t like!
As someone who uses both systems (Canon and Sony) a lot, I would say that both of them have incredible strengths and some very annoying weaknesses. I really like Sony, but there are some things in them that drive me absolutely crazy too, which is why I prefer Canon at the end of the day. I'd also point out that Canon has been really good at addressing and fixing a lot of the gripes in their cameras with firmware updates the last two years. The Canon R5 is a completely different camera than when I first bought it and most of my gripes have been fixed. I would say if you are invested in Canon, you will probably be happier staying in the system. Good luck and have a great day!
I've been slowly phasing out my Sony system for a Canon system for commercial work. Now having both the R5 and R5C, the R5C definitely seems like a one trick pony. That is, the 8K60. Don't get me wrong, the exposure tools are nice too, but 8K60 with no record limit is the only practical thing R5C brings over R5, and as others have pointed out it's worse in every other way. What a strange camera.
Even with the new 1.6 firmware, you can't record 4k30 internally for more than 30 minutes on the r5. For the kind of work I do (mostly shooting live classical music concerts) having a redudant backup to an external recorder is a must. (especially given the fragile micro HDMI port).
I would argue that it is worse than you say. Try and do the FTP transfer or any non-trivial Wi-Fi connectivity with the R5 without the $1000 extra network grip - you know… the grip that has two batteries but the camera only uses one of them. Relating to the R5C and the R5 connecting to the DJI RS 3 Pro: the USB-C cable matters. I have a few posts around but the essence is that the cables that come with the Ronin work. Indeed, older cables without the eMarker chip work. But many of the cables that you own by this point probably have an eMarker chip in them and as a result, they will not work with the R5 or R5C to DJI RS 3 Pro. I don’t know if this is a Canon problem or a DJI problem. So… if you find that your start / stop button isn’t working, try a different cable. I would almost not mind buying the $1000 extra grip IF it would use both batteries for the camera but all of the reviews say that it does not. One is for the camera and the other is for the Wi-Fi / ethernet.
I switched from Sony to Canon for the R5c. Now, with the new app announced for the FX3, etc., which is part of the issue you’re complaining about here, I’m feeling like I made a big mistake. Maybe it’s time to switch back. 😔
So you switched from sony to canon (spending $4k) bcoz of a feature that you didnt even bother to check in the specs of the canon camera?? Either you spend huge money like toilet paper or you dont even own the canon do you, sony fanboy liar?? I switched from the A7sIII to the R5c coz the A7sIII was literally all overhype and zero quality including its low light BS [it was all just DNR video)
@@plisskenetic Oh no! You caught me! I confess. I’ve never owned any Canon cameras. Sony pays me tremendous amounts of money to make these comments here on RU-vid. LOL!!! Paranoid much? I switched for a whole host of reasons. And you’re forgetting that this app is new to Sony. So there was no checking to be done when I bought the R5c. Those features didn’t exist with either brand. Your hostility and accusations suggest you’re way too invested in your camera choices. Live and let live, my friend. You’ll live longer.
Hi, thank you for your insightful video. I wanted to buy the R5C and thought that a system of remote viewing and focus adjustment would be available in Video mode, until I discovered that the camera uses a completely different systems for photo and Video. It also seems that the R5C will just not pair with the Camera Connect app! Hmm...Canon's Camera Connect official compatibility list does not include the R5C, even though the picture of the R5C is shown within the app itself. Some users have reported that the R5C may connect to the app when paired with an external Wi-Fi grip, others say that this pairing will be limited to the Photo mode and will not provide any remote control in the Video mode. I do not have access to the Wi-Fi grip so have no way of testing these claims. The question is: Is there currently any way to remotely view, set the focus and start/stop recording Video on the R5C? Regards, Alan
Still no fireware update for this? This is lame as f* Saw this Portkeys LH7P 7 monitor withe my R5C would be perfect for my workflow... I assume the focus touch, iso, aparture wont work without the wifi/bleutooth...grrrr
can you help me please? i bought the djiR3s pro, my camera is canon R5C, i connected the usb-c cable in video mode, but the record button doesn't work. I have seen several in which they show other cameras and in the menu of their cameras they use the Pc remote, but I cannot find that function in my camera. how can i make my DJI work with my camera? I'm desperate, I've been trying for days.
This is Canon again stopping customers using features they have to make more money making them buy more expensive equipment. I bet it will feature in the R5C II.
i wish canon would fix this with a firmware update but than there would be no reason for this stupid 1k battery grip .. so i guess it will never happen
I’m super frustrated. This is all just a really bad port. No video on photo mode, scroll wheel doesn’t work, battery life, wifi, & a downgrade In autofocus. 🤦🏾♂️. If I could swap for my r5 I would
This is pure speculation, but I think canon are going to drop a new cine camera, as their current line up is pretty outdated now and they are going to overhaul the video UI. I think the R5C is just a victim of bad timing with its release. I think the quirks on the R5C are just to bad for it's release (and I love the camera or at least what it can do) and I know Canon always finds a way to do something stupid but even for them I think the quirks on this camera couldn't be something they can really be happy with.
I was reading the reviews for this grip on B&H and - get this - it apparently splits the battery power so that one battery is only allowed to power the camera and the other can only power the WFT feature?!! So if I'm understanding this right - you'll still have to rig it with an external battery. I mean none of these WFT transfer functions are vital to me but it is very f*cking infuriating none the less.
The grip has a terrible reputation for this reason, and makes the whole situation that more maddening. I thought about going into this in the video, but I was trying to keep things concise. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
Thanks so much for the tip! I will be diving into this to see its application. I really appreciate you providing a possible alternative. Have a great day!
Hey Rp Einstein, thanks so much for the tip, but I think I hit a dead end with it. I was unable to access any of those functions, and when I dived back into the manual on Page 159 which begins the whole Network Functions sections, the very first sentence is a notice that "to be able to use the following function networks, you will need to connect that WFT-R1- Wireless File Transmitter (sold separately) to the camera. I appreciate you reaching out. Have a great day!
Im not sure, honestly. In theory it should, but I'm not willing to invest $1000 to test this out, when I have an R5 that can do this for free. I have also investigated the grip, and it has some issues with it that does not make me want to deal with it. Have a great day
@@DeafDirector Thanks for your answer. I am struggeling with the same :D So let us hope that canon will make it work. Than this Camera would be killer. Another setup would be to use a dummy battery with vmount battery and connect the ronin via cable to the camera. But it is only a workaround that is not how it should be in my opinion.
can you help me please? i bought the djiR3s pro, my camera is canon R5C, i connected the usb-c cable in video mode, but the record button doesn't work. I have seen several in which they show other cameras and in the menu of their cameras they use the Pc remote, but I cannot find that function in my camera. how can i make my DJI work with my camera? I'm desperate, I've been trying for days.
this is an awful situation and canon once again crippling its own cameras. the sony edge app is now very stable and delivers great results - you can easily use bluetooth to send proxies to your phone for example... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w2DyFYNVn18.html
