c0 Raiden Shogun R5 The Catch vs R1 Engulfing Lightning damage showcase 

Hope this video helped! FAQs BELOW 👇 Edit: I did another comparison this time with ATK% Goblet buffed and unbuffed! : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dVGbVWtRbK8.html Golden Koi and Rusty Koi click here ► ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MNvkhIp_TrU.html Raimei Angelfish ► ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iy43ZJlxl0E.html Pufferfishes location ► ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kw9eZ6tECG8.html& 【Subscribe for more】►bit.ly/2TjRscv To get "The Catch" Fish 20x Rusty Koi with Fake Fly Bait. Fish 20x Golden Koi with Fake Fly Bait. Fish 6x Raimei Angelfish with False Worm Bait. Visit the Inazuma Fishing Association to buy it. To refine, you need 4 Ako's Sake Vessel, so you'd have to do this 4 times. Fish 10x Pufferfish with Fake Fly Bait. Fish 10x Bitter Pufferfish with Fake Fly Bait. Fish 3x Raimei Angelfish with False Worm Bait. My talent levels are 6 6 6 4 set Emblem of the Severed fate

tbh this is any showcase should be done, no kazuha/mona/bennet or full food buff, people looking for comparison showcase not for the big pp dmg, this helps people to decide

No matter what artifacts are used Engulfing will be better for Baal. It feeds into her kit and because it has higher ER and base dmg than the catch. Changing the sands and cup don’t matter when Baal gets more electro dmg bonus from ER and Engulfing gives ATK based on ER, so it surpassed in both aspects

the vid is not meant to show how good his shogun is, its to show a damage comparison of the 5 star and the f2p option, the build doesnt matter, and also the emblem sets only been out for a couple months so people who dont refresh arent going to have god artifacts

this is the comparison i need no mona, no buff, no kazuha/sucrose, and no bennet burst

The attack is less by almost 550. So that should be taken into consideration. Obviously engulfing lightning is made specifically for her. But the numbers on catch are not bad either.

Doesn’t matter what artifacts he was using tbh. His artifacts are optimal for this show case. Engulfing Lightning is better, end of story lol

People should be aware that using The Catch would change her recommended build. From what Ive seen Attack - Electro or Attack Attack is the best for The Catch (deals more damage)

My max damage without buffs whatsoever was closely 105k. 29/200 for higher dmg. ATK sands and electro goblet with Engulfing. And I agree, Engulfing is like that one piece that makes the puzzle whole for Raiden.

I have Deathmatch on her and its about in between these two. 45k damage upon ulting. Granted I have 61% Crit Rate 192% Crit Dmg. 2pc Emblem 2pc Thundering (she's on support duty currently)

Thanks for showing raiden actual dmg without any elemental reaction or buffs 👍👍

Only downside of The Catch over Engulfing Lightning is losing the 12% extra CR, so if anyone plans on getting EL might want to make up for that 12% if necessary. The 32% Burst Bonus will not be an issue thanks to EL's passive of converting ER into ATK, add to that, that EL has 10+ more ER. The Catch is extremely good, but Engulfing Lightning makes Raiden cracked.

No buff from other characters, nice content appreciate it

This video may have shown dmg difference.. but the main reason i came here to see is the energy regen... and this solved my copium thoughts and now i know that er regen with catch is almost the same with el... Thanks for the video!

You should use and atk goblet because my lvl 80 Primordial did 59k with full stack,you can easily reach over 65k with engulfing lightning I think,overall great showcase man 👌

I got the engulfing lightning after saving for a few months and spending about 45$ cause I knew I could always get her at C2 later but I wanted to have her full aesthetic from day 1! It’s so fitting for her attack animations and she is my favorite character of all time so ofc I have to get her weapon. As a low spender she is the only 5 star I will probably ever go for multiple constellations of

Ignore the comments saying sand should be attack, my baal with the catch, ER sand and atk gublet, deals similar and even higher dmg than your baal with engulfing lightning, ignore the comments and just keep your stats balanced

really thank you this is what i was searching for

The amount of videos I've seen making Raiden as a main DPS tell me the obvious.... Nobody wanted her to be a supp xD

Pretty good. Although it depends on stats mainly, nice comparison :) Me personally I think catch is basically just a step back from engulfing not even half bad, if you have better luck on artifacts then the catch should be best for you. But if you don’t have much luck on artifacts or if you aren’t bothered to farm often then engulfing may be of more value to you x my raiden does around 60k no buffs with a regular r5 catch x so it just goes to show that either way it does depend on how you build your raiden

That's how showcase video should be madd .No food buffs , no bennet and Kujou buff .Pure damage test . It helps people to decide whether to pull or not

Now this is what i call a relatable build and comparison

You should add more crit damage/er artifacts to the catch since it has 12% more crit rate

I’m happy to see that my f2p raiden shogun with the catch has similar damage to engulfing lightning 😄

if u change the electro goblet to atk% the dmg diffrence will decrease, since the catch already gives u dmg bonus + emblem + the goblet , the dmg bonus for the catch is too much compared to atk% , while engulfing gives u atk% and removes catch dmg bonus which make it more balanced therefore gives u more dmg , my catch raiden c0 does way more dmg than the engulfing one here btw and artifacts are just fine not perfect

I have attack instead of electro damage bonus, I think Raiden have enough electro damage on herself, for me works amazing in that way

A showcase with no bennett buff? You got a sub from me :))

6 month farming now I got engulfing in rerun banner.. My current raiden woping with 69 crit rate 150 crit damage + 300 er♥️

If you give raiden a crit damage circlet then you can deal around 80000 with 300 ER as minimum

Can you try it with Jade too? I have jade but I don't know if I should use it on her

I have a F2P Raiden, when I unleash the ult she deals around 5k-13k per slash, I bet If I get better substats on crit dmg and crit rate I can reach 18k easily without buffs. Even tho, I'm looking foward to get the engulfing lightning for her rerun to complete her.

My c0 baal with catch at 60 stacks with no buffs and supports hits 60k and 10k normals. Edit: now she's at talent lvl 10 and hits for 80k with no buffs or anything.

I say the catch even though its obviously is going to be worse is actually the best for an average player who isnt luckyor rich, and extra 10 burst crit rate, thanks and dmg for burst isnt bad for her

there were some flaws on the build, dont think it was the weapons. try using atk% sands and then try it out. my r2 the catch can do 49k with it :) hope i see a video with atk% your video was great overall . . . update, just upgraded the catch to lvl 80 and i can suddenly do 56k with the initial burst, the catch is actually pretty good at R2. imagine how good it'll be at R5

It's almost impossible to catch the reimei on phone I don't think i can get catch soon enough :(

whats better: atk goblet or electro? i can use catch R5 or skyward R1 dps build

How much ER i need if i have engulfing??

I need help I have about 216% ER with The Catch using Atk Goblet Should I go ER goblet or is that good??

How u collect so much on the raiden passive?

Hopefully Kazuha and Ei won't be on same banner. I want to get them both + engulfing lightning for my Raiden

wait how is your attack 600 less with the catch

That electro goblet makes me cry

The best thing about EL is that it frees up the catch for xiangling

My ult dmg with Bennett is 88631k with r4 catch is this good enough?

How do u have so much 5 star artifacts

Finally I got EL and I will use catch on Xiangling 😁

Hi, is there any time limit to get the catch? Like festering, limited in event time only?

I still don't know if I should build her with full thundering fury or energy recharge, I'm using her as main dps for now

Engulfing lightning: look what they do just to mimick a fraction of my power

Just a quick question how many pulls did you have to get engulfing lightning ? Answer me I'm planning to wish for weapon banner

Can I reach 300 energy for baal with weapon catch?

Use atk goblet for catch for more danage because catch already has low base attack

i already pull 182 times but still don’t got the engulfing lightning. Should I still continue to pull?

Is running electro damage bonus better than atk % for the goblet?

I really miss how bright her chakra used to be, shame they dulled it down cuz of the issues with the bows.

Hmm I feel I need to try this myself again. I tried it and found the catch did way more overall damage. Came to the internet to see if anyone else found the same, so this is interesting. Maybe I just happen to hit more crits 🤔🤔

What's the best way to maximise raidens burst damage, normal I use charged attacks as if it was hutao(without jump cancel tho) but every video I've seen uses just the normal attack combi

Whatever thing is both have their own weight, Catch R5 charged atk is super faster than engulfing..but overall engulfing R5 is better

I think the catch would scale better if you use artifacts other than severed fate.

Why is my raiden attack when not in use only has 1.7k and when I use her she has 2.2k

Is the pattern n4c1?

Stats, talents, level and all that matter in a build even support characters it's part of the game but i do get it if you want just weapons and her potential thats fine

I got a question since raidens banner is coming again wat is better getting her wapen or c1 her

how do you have 110% electro dmg

So r1 engulfing deals 45% more damage than r5 catch. Damn

I would swap sa crit rate circlet on the catch because of the bonus 12%(r5) it gives

If u are a f2p and don't have baal's weapon, it's fine to use "the catch". This vid is not a comparison between the two weapons...engulfing always will be the best for Baal, everyone knows.

i got two engulfing lightning should i refine it or give one to zhongli ?

its either youre going for ER sands and atk goblet or atk sands and electro goblet thats it,. my the catch r5 is hitting 70k with full stacks.

I think Signature weapon is still best in terms of raw DMG.

I use staff of homa on my raiden bc I got lucky af and got 2 homas. would I be better off using the catch?

Where are this artefacts?

is Ei good with skyward spine?

People need to know damage multiplier in genshin is not linear. If u did such a simple damage like this, engulfing has 54% better output than the catch, but with full team scale for ex hypercarry that involve alot more unique multiplier, the dps difference between engul and the catch is just 20%. See how large the difference is. Yet people here overglorify the engul did alot better when its not that much of different, please learn first.

I got Baal today and also won my first 50/50

U drop ur crown my king

Hmm how did u get r5 when Im still at r0 UwU

I like this...hope to see more content like this.. Done subscribe : )

Raiden C2 or Raiden c0 with badass weapon? Plz help me :D Can't afford both :)

i have baal uper 10K with the catch so what wrong?

You should have tested the catch weapon with attack % goblet. Imo there's too much electo damage and the attack is too low.

The damage difference is crazy damn I prob should gamble on the weapon banner lol

when you cant get engulfing lightning because you dont want to spend your primos and you cant get the catch bc youre stuck on ar25 and just started liyue story line👁👄👁

It pains me to think of how long it might have took you to get a r5 catch hope you ok

It's no surprise that EL is better than Catch But Catch is pretty good for a 4*, it's honestly better than many 5* weapons in the game But is r5 catch better than r1 Skyward spine?

Why she does only arround 5k? Its not normal at lvl 90 and nuce build?

Te falta farmearle más cuando llevas la captura porque yo tengo la captura y con los artefactos llega a 2000 de ataque con 100 de critico y pega bueno pero el farmeo es díficil

Imagine that with bennet burst and jean burst with paprikaing beidou burst

Ye its obvious that Engulfing Lightning outperforms the Catch even at R1, btw lil tip: do charged attacks while the musou no isshin state, deals way more dmg faster

Porque pega nadamas 55k con su arma? Si la mía que es c0 con captura r5 sin bufos pega 78k con el primer corte por si sola

Is your raiden c2 in the Tests?

Is raiden shogun weak ? Cause i've people who come to world deal way more and consistently Cause i need a good electro character

what about constellation?

I‘ve been testing around and I‘ve come to the conclusion that my Raiden deals more damage with PJWS than with Skyward Spine so the Catch can wait, really.

Por que dicen que “la captura “ es mejor? Si luz del segador hace mas daño!!

If only we could get more than one of “the catch” ;_;

bro as full charges on the engulfing lightning and on the catch got no charges

Raiden dont need much crit?? Er is good for raiden than crit? Plz tell me

My C0 R1 Shogun does 82K No buffs whatsoever. Yoimiya and Yelan skills are used after shogun skill followed by bursts then shogun burst. With Bennett she does 120k. Talent levels are as follow: 3/6/10.

I am new, will the spear return or will it go forever ??? to save Primo Gems ....