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C5 & C6 Corvette Harmonic Balancer Diagnosis 

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Super EASY way to diagnose if your Harmonic Balancer is in good shape - or - is in need of replacement!
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Комментарии : 76   
@DennisMoscatelli
@DennisMoscatelli 8 месяцев назад
Hey Buddy, I just wanted to let you know. About 12 months ago I purchased a base C5 vert., Auto. 77,000miles. Really good deal but then reality set in with the many items I had to attend to. One of them was a very small diff leak at the left side o'ring. I reviewed your video on repairing the diff leak , followed everything exactly as you had indicated , made all the purchases you suggested and performed the repair. Total success, and 10 months later no leaks. So I want to thank you for all your assistance . I really enjoy your video's. Now my next undertaking is to replace the vibration dampener. It is not wobbling yet and looks to be in good order at this time, but I figured as a matter of maintenance I want to get out ahead of it and replace it before it causes any damage. I also figured I should replace the oil pump while I'm in there. So engine warm at an idle, it reads about 28psi. I'm not to comfortable with that. At about 80mph ( 2,000rpmish ) it builds up to about 38-40psi. Again, I'm not too comfortable with that either. So my plan is when I do the vibration dampener, I want to replace the oil pump to increase my oil pressure. 1. Do you think that is a good idea? 2. If so, what oil pump would you recommend? Do I get a pump for pressure or volume ? What manufacturer?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 8 месяцев назад
Those numbers don't seem bad to me at operating temperature. I'd leave the oil pump.
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 7 месяцев назад
@@Toys4Life - and I wouldn't replace a dampener that's perfectly fine, either! Mine is wobbling so I have to fix it!
@castlegarage6969
@castlegarage6969 Месяц назад
That oil pressure is normal. Don't mess with pump or the balancer if it's good
@nikkoalpha2
@nikkoalpha2 2 года назад
Another superb video. Sometimes low mileage garage queens are suspect concerning harmonic damper wobble. It is refreshing to see that yours is fine considering your aggressive driving style. Thanks for showing us that this can be an issue and how to diagnose it. Small price when compared to what my fellow European sports car owners encounter. Although it can be expensive to replace the harmonic balancer (Somewhere around $2,000 if professionally done) Once done then ready for another hundred thousand miles of hopefully trouble free driving.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 года назад
Thank you for the comment sir!
@crzivan01
@crzivan01 Год назад
I’m looking at a ‘99 C5 garage queen right now with 28k on it and it’s got the wobble very noticeable while running. Will be using this test to check further. Thanks to the OP for posting! Appreciate it sir!
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Год назад
Agreed. Once these are replaced and pinned. Then they don't need to be replaced for a while. Gotta love some of our C5's simplicity.
@roadstar499
@roadstar499 Год назад
Anyway to mark is good,paint,sharpie even a scratch using a nail .great trick I actually hope mine moves...so sick of buying new parts thinking it will solve my noise and vibration issue..thanks again
@HeavenReservation
@HeavenReservation 2 года назад
awesome, I love the shoe polish trick, I'll try that for sure
@rab2826
@rab2826 6 лет назад
Great idea with the shoe polish.
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage Год назад
This is a good idea. I have a annoying chirp I cant find but no wobble. Be sweet if it was just a pulley somewhere but I've had 13 mostly trouble free years so I'm not complaining if i have to fix it lol
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Год назад
Was the pulley that was wobbling?
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage Год назад
@@WarriorsPhoto not that I could see
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Год назад
@@hoobsgarage Got it. Appreciate the feedback.
@goldenceaser7839
@goldenceaser7839 Год назад
Did you ever figure it out? I'm having the same chirp and I've already had all of the belts replaced
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage Год назад
@@goldenceaser7839 no I havent really messed with it anymore lol. Gonna try one of those gator back belts that is supposed to help with squeaks but I've since noticed my water pump leaking so i been wondering if the antifreeze is dripping on it making it squeak.
@davegregg1512
@davegregg1512 3 года назад
Damn! This is one of those moments when you go, “WHY DIDN’T I THINK OF THAT TRICK WITH SHOE POLISH???”. LOOK AWAY! I’M HIDEOUS!
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 года назад
Some of the best solutions are simple!
@sensualbroseidon514
@sensualbroseidon514 2 года назад
Hey bud, I just picked up my first Corvette. It is a 2003 50th anniversary edition and it has 88,000 miles. Mine starting to have a wobble as well. Plus the belt tensioner has a very very slight movement to it. In early morning start ups when it’s cold and wet outside I get a little Chirping which is constant until the vehicle heats up a little bit it last for maybe about a minute or so and then it goes away. I used a paint pen to mark a line on the front of my balancer. My question Is that can these harmonic balancer fail in a different way besides the line not moving? What I mean by that is can they still fail even if the line doesn’t shift? I appreciate all your help and insight into this. I really don’t wanna do this job until I have the money to put a cam as well as timing. Thank you very much
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 года назад
If your balancer has not moved and per your paint mark - is not currently moving - I think it should be fine especially at stock HP levels.
@sensualbroseidon514
@sensualbroseidon514 2 года назад
@@Toys4Life I appreciate you. Thank you very much.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 года назад
@@sensualbroseidon514 Thank you!
@medomathkour9665
@medomathkour9665 Год назад
I have the same chirp do you think that’s definitely the harmonic?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Год назад
Do the paint test. A chrip can be many things.
@howie2092
@howie2092 Год назад
my 1998 has 128k miles and original balancer. No wobble or slip yet, but I will probably change it this winter just to be safe.
@menotyou5380
@menotyou5380 Год назад
Great idea with the shoe polish!
@dannpd1955
@dannpd1955 Месяц назад
Thanks for a good tip.
@roadstar499
@roadstar499 Год назад
So when they start to fail they always twist like you were checking for,or they don't always twist...mine is 18 years old..looks dry .I removed my belt and I still get noise and vibration ..when I look at balancer it may have slight wobble,but not sure..I will do your test and see if it turns...than I will be certain...I already have a new part on it's way though.thanks
@carwashdetailing9126
@carwashdetailing9126 Год назад
Hi. I have a 2004 Corvette (46000Miles) with some wobble in the balancer. Does that hurt if the balancer does not move? Will some wobble destroy something, if the balancer pass the line test?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Год назад
IMO, It won't hurt anything until it starts to slide off of the hub, and then it typically slides back and grinds a hole in the timing cover. Keep a close eye on it.
@buickmonte
@buickmonte 5 лет назад
Fantastic tips...thank you.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@corvettemustang1
@corvettemustang1 5 месяцев назад
removing the steering rack is the long way to do the job you can do it the dropped cradle way in about 2 hours providing you have a hoist and the know how
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 месяцев назад
You can do it that way if you prefer, it's all about personal preference. I'm not known for being the fastest, but might comebacks are very low.
@inyourdefense0
@inyourdefense0 Год назад
Nice test!
@slayuhm5807
@slayuhm5807 Год назад
Is the dayco truly a good balancer you have in description?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Год назад
I had enough confidence in it that it's on my C5. It also has to drive my supercharger which puts it through much more stress than naturally aspirated. So yeah, I would say it's a good balancer for sure.
@napalm84
@napalm84 Год назад
My c6 is getting an ATI as a type this. I drive it hard so I'd rather get it done.
@THATMOFODIRT
@THATMOFODIRT 3 месяца назад
Good tip
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 месяца назад
Happy to help
@F_r_a_n_y
@F_r_a_n_y 3 года назад
Thanks for the great tip
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 года назад
You bet!
@panzerwaffen2873
@panzerwaffen2873 3 года назад
Hey this is a great tip...
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 года назад
Glad you think so!
@panzerwaffen2873
@panzerwaffen2873 3 года назад
@@Toys4Life glad you uploaded the video ...cheers
@rickss69
@rickss69 2 года назад
With that slop of a mark how could you possibly tell anything? Use a simple grease pencil line...
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 года назад
That is why I use my cell phone to sneak down in there and get a good look. Crisper line - even better.
@retiredbutnotdead9929
@retiredbutnotdead9929 2 месяца назад
The shoe polish mark was applied correctly and served its purpose. The residue dried in the correct areas and I could tell instantly the harmonic balance did not move….it doesn’t need to be neat, just effective.
@stanleykee
@stanleykee 3 года назад
excellent video!!!!!!
@robertmeadows2432
@robertmeadows2432 5 лет назад
I'm Getting A " CHIRPING" Noise......Would That Be The Balancer?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 лет назад
It could be but is could also be an old belt and or weak tensioner. Perform this test to be sure.
@Verttime364
@Verttime364 4 года назад
Yes you're exactly right my 07 LS2 with 23450 MI it was chirping and I checked why it was running and it was wobbling pretty good there are people that go back with the AC balancer but only to have it fail again or some people go with a cheaper aftermarket such as Summit Racing which is 225 the best bouncer you can put which I put on mine is a ATI super damper it was 466 from Summit Racing all of the cheaper brands that you can but they do not have the specs and tolerances that are close to the original damper but the ati's are real close and use the APR balancer bolt kit $29 instead of the GM bolt that is not reusable but it comes with a diamond encrusted washer to fix the problem they had the first year of that LS2 in 05
@modquad18
@modquad18 Год назад
Hard to fathom that GM was struggling to build a quality harmonic dampener as late as 2008.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Год назад
Must be because people rev them a lot higher than all the LS's that are in pickup trucks??
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 6 месяцев назад
They also went bankrupt that year, proving they were not exactly on the ball.
@lasvegasbadboyz
@lasvegasbadboyz 2 года назад
Awesome👍🏼
@KameraShy
@KameraShy 4 года назад
Supposedly the 100k mile mark is when they begin to fail.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 года назад
At most..
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 6 месяцев назад
@KameraShy - I just bought a 2006 with 66,000 and mine is wobbling.
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 7 месяцев назад
Just bought a 2006 CTSV with 66,000 miles and mine is wiggling more than this. Obviously more of an age or design issue than mileage.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 6 месяцев назад
Keep an eye on it (:-)
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 6 месяцев назад
@@Toys4Life - the car is intended as a "keeper" so I'm going to have it replaced. It will only get worse!
@MeatTenderizer23
@MeatTenderizer23 6 лет назад
More Fiero videos pls
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 6 лет назад
What kind of stuff would you like to see?
@MeatTenderizer23
@MeatTenderizer23 6 лет назад
Toys4Life C5 I'm interested in your setup, how'd you run high 11s? Did you use drag radials? Gen3 or GenV? What pulley?
@dougbales9713
@dougbales9713 4 года назад
It's gonna just fail on you... There is no progression to failure...
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 года назад
No it is not, I changed mine out after this to a powerbond when I added a supercharger (:-) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AqEDO9SE3BA.html
@lsedanolg
@lsedanolg 4 года назад
@@Toys4Life I just installed a powerbond and it has a slight wobble to it like this one; did yours have the same?
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