The lore does state that the Gaunts are pretty damn fast. Even on the tabletop they can move farther in a single turn than just about any unit except bike troops
@@gothicalpha or just found someone who's read the rulebook and codex. Hormagaunts, and Termagants can move up to 19" in a single movement phase if they're specced right. Meaning that inside a couple turns, they're in close combat, and nomming your opponents army
Ah yes, the good old tactic of closing in on a melee focused enemy with your ranged weapon. Really nice of them to give the Carnifex a few chances to have a swing at them.
My biggest gripe with this animation (I've only seen fragments people upload, there is NO way I'm paying for WH+) is the glaring flaws in logic displayed by characters.
Well, it came to them. And instead of running away to maybe preserve their own lives, they focused on pouring enough firepower into it to bring it down there and then - plus holding it in place while reinforcements moved in with heavy weapons to get good shots on it. I get the logic you're using, but I find 'hehe, why not just get further away?' to be more flawed than the movie logic it criticises.
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756Penetration depends on the model and energy setting. Distance only matters at very long ranges or in bad weather conditions.
This perfectly captures just how horrific the life of any single guardsmen is, but also shows why fighting the guard is itself a terrible prospect. No matter how powerful you are, there are always more of them than there are of you, and the planet they are standing on will fall before they surrender
*OR* , conversely, if the enemies can match their numbers (Tyranids/Orks) then they can't match their artillery or armored divisions. As scary as a Carnifex is (Extremely scary) it doesn't match the equivalent weight of Leman Russ's. As numerous, as bloody minded and horrifically tough as the Orks are, as aggressive as they are, they aren't immune to artillery, bombardments, aircraft, biological weapons. So far as I'm concerned, humanity has a terrifying place in the W40K Universe. Humanity can gum up, outfight, outmaneuver, or long-term-strategize the races that outnumber it. For the races that *Humanity* outnumbers, it's a terrifying disaster campaign against beings that can out-tech, out-maneuver, out-psychic and isolate individual humans to our extreme detriments...... But they can't kill enough of *US* for that tech to overwhelm us in detail. That's why we tend to *lose* in tactics, but *win* when it comes to overall strategy. We ride that fine balance. And we have Space Marines. We have *SCARIER* stuff than Space Marines if the excrement truly hits the fan.
@@ZarelidT the guard are powerful in numbers. with 30 trillion guardsmen. a battle with a million casualties is chicken feed and more than worth the price of victory
@@wildspirewarrior211 more than plot armor, it was confirmed that Stormtrooper Helmets don't allow a good vision, so that's explains a lot of why the fail their shots Add that to the fact that Jedis are protected by the Force and trained to dodge/deflect the blasters and you got it Clone Troopers on the other hand were built from Jango Fett's DNA, making them way better than Stormtroopers before taking any training.
If this was made in MS Paint, then you should be shaking about the thought of what they could do with an even larger toolset afforded to them in other animation programs.
While the carnifex admittedly did seem small and sounded somewhat underwhelming as well as way too fast for what is essentially a walking siege engine; I won't deny they portrayed just how deadly and gruesome the tyranids are, that bioplasma was nasty in a good way.
@@thebighurt2495 head is the biggest give away. Also anything smaller can't have bioplasma. Very hunched over, head doesn't have a crest, and chimney things sticking out the back. Carnifex alright but I can understand why it would throw people off considering in older artwork and even models, these things are bigger than tanks and dreadnoughts
@@thebighurt2495 carnifexes don't get that big but easily the size of battle tanks which it what their general targets are. Nids don't do anything they don't need to. If it was a warrior, as I said it would have a shaper angled head with a plated crest on it and it would standing much more upright. More than likely it would also not be assaulting the trench alone, being backed up/protected by either other warriors or warrior organisms like raveners or shrikes; or a small swarm of hormagaunts
This makes me feel good things as a guard player. I love the fact it shows how it would go down, wave after wave, fight and whittle down the foe, fight for the Emperor and for your fellow Guards. (Chef's kiss)
@@RegularGamingChannel He's probably talking about the tabletop game. Lots of models make it expensive to the point we call them "plastic crack". You've been warned.
To be kinda fair, his buddies with the helmets got killed too. He was just guaranteeing that he will actually die from whatever hits him instead of having the slight chance of having to wait to burn to death/bleed out.
Those guardsmen are really lucky that they could only afford to animate the Carnifex moving 1 or 2 times otherwise standing in mele range for 20-30 seconds wouldn't have worked out too well
I accidentally showed this to my bosses at work instead of my originally planned Powerpoint. The last thing they said before firing me was: "We got this at the cost of TTS and Astartes?" For context I worked at a garbage disposal company, and they didn't want this.
@@hammer1349 Sadly some of the cast members said that they are continuing production but at a slow rate. They don't want to completely give up on the project but unfortunately they are stubbornly working on it once in a while.
@@ZxMoonLightxZ if there is a biotitan, it means the nids have A) amassed enough biomass to create one in the first place and B) are in the final stages of an invasion. Generally tyranid invasions if I remember correctly get bigger and bigger bugs the longer it goes on. Starts of with vanguard organisms, mainly lictors and genestealers. Then goes to swarm, so all the little ones. After that, if the previous where not enough, stuff like carnifexes start showing up to break the defences the gants and gaunts etc couldn't overcome. After that, it all generally comes to down to the level of defences and how tenacious the defenders are. A biotitan is one of the last organisms to be deployed, much like how imperial titans are called upon when things really hit the fan.
these animators should be hired by GW imagine what they could do if they made a series out of this with the many dollars that the company holds. Edit: to future readers, sarcasm and satire is the peak form of comedy
I believe this show, hammer and bolter, is made by games workshop who own WH40K. In the defence of the quality it seems like they are focusing more on quantity of episodes and the quality of the story vs actual visual quality. I am all for that combo.
@@loquendocarlos No it did not warcraft was meant to be a Warhammer Fantasy game that just fell through. Starcraft end up being different in fact it was memed on looking like warcraft but in space. Also the one time GW attempted to sue blizzard over that very thing GW lost in court. And it was all over someone using the term space marine. Which fun fact was the first coin in the starship troopers book which predates WH40K by several decades. Also, GW can't complain about coping when they do the same thing.
someone in the Imperium should really tell the Adeptus Mechanicus to stop supplying the Imperial Guards with those useless flashlights, and start instead mass producing heavy caliber ballistic guns like the pistols the Commissars are been given, because it look like the most effective gun in the Imperial Guards are mainly used against those that are failing their duties instead of the enemy.
It's a running joke at this point but bolter pistol / bolters are too difficult and too expensive to reproduce to outfit the guards. Lasguns only seem weak because IG's enemies are overpowered, especially since Tyranids evolves constantly as they take damage. Lasguns have near infinite ammo and requires a lot less maintenance than your standard bolter and a well placed las shot between a space marine's armor can kill them instantly. Las guns are much more powerful than an autogun, which is often used by heretics and renegades. The target they killed was a carnifex, the tyranids' equivalent of a tank, it's honestly kind of too strong that they actually managed to down one with only las gun, plasma rifle, and a grenade. A bolter / bolt pistol fires a armor piercing rocket rather than a bullet, which is why they're far more effective than a las gun.
Brah why would they make a gun that costs *more* than the solider using it. The heavy caliber weapons are for the Space Marines... You know the guys who's plan isn't "just throw 50,000 guys at them and then blow the planet up 🤷"
Lasguns are actually AMAZING weapons. You can change their settings to grant more killing power, recharge the power pack by tossing it into a fire and it requires very little maintenance. Compare that to a bolter; which is expensive to make, harder to maintain and most important the ammunition is heavy and difficult to transport (even more so since there is not such thing as a galactic standard bolt round size for humans). This is why guardsmen fight in combined arms; infantry supported by tanks, aircraft, heavy weapons special weapons, etc.
I like how they are really adaptive even when they are taking casualties due to ineffective equipment and close quarter environment. Makes the guard look competent and hardy like they should be instead of a meat bag shield
1:20 as they were gunning down that singular nid, I was thinking "you can't get distracted shooting down one of them as you'll be eaten by ten times the numbers you've already killed."
While I agree that the animation leaves much to be desired, I can’t say I don’t like this, the story is good and so is the general feel of everything, it’s dark and you never forget that this planet is undergoing an apocalypse definite 7/10
Problem being this is something GW expects us to pay for as a subscription. If this were free to watch on their website then I would have no complaints, heck even if its a 1 time payment for full access to the series (and JUST the series mind you) then it's pretty good. But as it stands, I cannot justify this.
That's what's so frustrating. The tone, storyline, and visual designs are all perfectly fine. The backgrounds are often quite stunning and beautiful, actually. But the animation is so cheap-looking and shoddy that it distracts the viewer and makes it impossible to enjoy the good parts. Like, I get they don't want to spend millions of dollars on it like "Castlevania", but even if they can't do full-on fluid animation, there are ways to make a limited number of animation frames look better.
@@dark7element or go for a halo legends style thing and make them semi animated comics. I think a lot of 40k short stories would benefit from this format.
To me, this has the same energy of poking at a ants hive (The imperium) it doesn't matter how big you are, they're gonna kill you. So run, or accept your fate.
When I think about how a lasgun works, how laser weapons in general work, how they kill, I would think that THAT MANY GUARDSMEN dumping their power packs into a carnifex wouldn’t take a half hour to bring it down. How does a flesh and blood creature successfully diffuse THAT MUCH HEAT through its body without any of its vital organs being cooked? How is it THAT ABLE to resist all the fluids in its body being vaporized? Must have some sort of natural coolant or anti-conductive compounds floating around in its bloodstream, or something similar in its cells. I can understand the armored carapace on its head and back being made of some sort of refractive material like ceramite, but the rest of its body took a hilarious amount of hits, and no guardsman with more than half a brain cell would try to burn through its carapace. Unless he was hammering away at the fucker with a plasma cannon or something. Nothing alive save a Hierophant or a greater daemon could tank something like that.
@@martinnavarrete5279 it's not necessarily low energy. A lasgun would be pretty powerful by today's standards, it's that everything else in the 40k universe is too OP for it to do anything against anything but basic infantry.
@@rayhankazianga6817 i mean, refering to how advance is the imperium the lasgunis total trash for canon fodder, even for the standart of other sci-fi factions is weak
@@martinnavarrete5279 the imperium is... weird. A modern main battle tank (M1A2 Abrams, challenger 2, etc) could definitely give a leman russ a run for its money. Same with modern fighters going up against thunderbolts and lightnings. Heavier vehicles could be taken out with laser-guided munitions, artillery, and things like the switchblade drone. In my opinion, the imperium is partially far beyond our current technology, but some areas are at, or even below our current technology level
Es lamentable como el imperio a caido en decadencia. Viendo la tecnología tan avanzada que tenían incluso después de la herejía, es triste como por la superstición y adoración al emperador todo se fue al garete. Incluso parece que lo mantienen vivo en contra de su voluntad en ese trono dorado tanta tecnología perdida tantas enseñanzas olvidadas y para que sirvió sí al final todo terminó en tragedia. Por esa misma adoración y míralos ahora muriendo en masa en tácticas suicidas luchando con enemigos, cada vez más poderosos con armas inútiles y creen todavía que tienen posibilidad de ganar esta guerra. La única salvación sería una alianza con los eldar aunque sea temporal. Y aunque eso sea herejía realmente el imperio lo están golpeando por todos lados y no sabe nisiquiera que están golpeando esto no es triste. Esto es trágico incluso para los astartes esta situación es insostenible. Mejor que se pongan las pilas y empiecen a crear tecnología de calidad y aprovechar los cerebritos que parece que tienen, fuga de cerebros masiva, igual. ! Gloria al emperador!
yo creo que realmente la única salvación es dejar morir al emperador y tratar de ver si reencarna en alguien más, aunque si te soy sincero, con que los humanos aprendan a pensar por si mismos harán la diferencia.
Pues por algo volvió guilliman ha hecho mucho desde que volvió, desde poner el orden en terra y purgandola del caos y los incompetentes, haciendo mejores armas y teniendo a sus marines primaris, actualmente la humanidad al mando de guilliman ah vuelto a retomar su iniciativa del imperio imparable y también claro siguiendo las órdenes de su padre el emperador
I mean, it is quite close to the old wargames. I do remember a friend of mine playing tyranids against my imperial guard, getting close with a carnifex worth hunderts of points to my group of - I think - 40 guardsmen. Gave them the order "first line fire, second line fire" or something like that to double their shots and killed that thing even with 2+ saves on his side.
For those that are griping about the animation quality, remember that this series is built on the "animated comic book" style. And in many cases, the teams who make these have a head count that can be counted with one hand. Other studios have produced content similar in style to this, with hundreds of people, and millions of dollars in budget. Despite this, you didn't seem to have an issue with those shows, but you have an issue here? I have a legitimate challenge for you: if you think you can do better, then go out, get a computer, the art programs you feel comfortable with, and you try to make something better. Who knows, you might get an email from GW with a job offer like these guys did. A job offer that meant they could safely walk away from the grind of their previous 9-5 and get to work on something they have a passion for while making sure their bills are paid. In short: you don't hate GE, you don't hate the art and animation team who made this.... You hate yourselves for not chasing a passion, and the ones that did are now getting paid for their hard work.
I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but the issue that most people have with this is that GW banned all fan animations from the internet and then released this low-quality animation. Of course it’s not the animators’ fault, they have to work with what they have. GW is who gives them their paltry resources to work with. That’s why everyone is angry, because even if they wanted to or were able to make a better 40k animation their work will get banned. People who can and have done better have already gotten screwed over and dragged into this low-caliber vortex. We absolutely hate GW, not these animators.
@@Goliath5100 wrong in the first sentence. They didn't ban fan works. They banned the practice of people profiting off their IP without their consent. You could make a 40K animation all you want, and post it wherever you want. You just can't make money from it unless you have written permission from GW. It's technically been this way since Steamboat Willy, but most companies wouldn't pursue it until very recently when IP and Copyright laws changed.... Thanks to Disney
@@Tank50us You were just talking about how people should pursue their passions to get away from their 9-5 grinds. People were doing just that by making amazing fan animations and getting their bills paid off of websites like patron or kickstarter (these are independent creators being funded by fans, not rival corporations) and then GW comes and drops the hammer on all of them, subsequently releasing vastly inferior material for their own profit motive, and you take issue with consumers voicing complaints about that business practice?
@@Goliath5100 yes, people could go to KS or Patreon. But funding through them isn't guaranteed, and can be ripped away from you at the drop of a hat for reasons that only they know, or worse, not enough people see the animation at all to even trip the algorithm on RU-vid. Meanwhile, GW offers these animators 80K+ per year, and they can work from home. And that's been shown to have a devil-may-care release schedule (IE, GW isn't breathing down their necks to get things out). So for 80K/yr you could work from home, on a project you want to make, on a time schedule that suits you? And the only requirement is that you pay attention to the lore? Not exactly a bad deal, and could look good on a resume if you opt to go on to something else late on. It's also a win for GW, since now if any big companies come to try and buy out the IP from them, they can say "no, we're producing it, and still have control. Go away."
I'm so happy I never bought into Warhammer+. Who in their right mind thinks this is better than what astartes was becoming? You can see the difference between work done by someone passionate about what they're doing and someone who is getting paid
Agreed, Games Workshop should have hired these independent creators on freelance contracts. Let them do their own thing on youtube (with sponsorships) to draw people into the hobby, then bring in the most talented for big projects.
I like the style :) I understand that there arent many frames etc, but it is another reason why I wish that warhammer+ was not a paid service. Shows like this should be made free, and so then others can always donate. I think it'd make more money this way vs. being locked into a paid service.
1 flashlight may be weak...but ten thousand of those said flashlights can dent even the strongest of armor...or in this case two squads lighting up a single bug.
I am so glad I don't pay for this and anyone who dose please don't gw need to understand that this isn't what we want and if they are not going to put the the effort in then let us
