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Caedrel Has Noticed One BIG Difference Between LCK & LPL 

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@kamezachi
@kamezachi Год назад
Lot of ppl said "blabla LPL is coin flip etc.." No , LPL play agressive cuz LoL is not a tactical game , this game is so casual.The bounty allows the opposing team to be able to come back and catch up in gold.
@FloatLikeABee
@FloatLikeABee Год назад
Yes because LCK focus on snowballing, and if they dont have a lead at 15 - 20 min they are happy to be passive. They have good enough macro to wait out Elder. The problem is, if you give the top LCK teams 3k+ gold lead at 15 - 20 min, its generally GG, regardless of soul, thats why the only way to beat LCK is shut down the early game.
@azrrrrrrrr
@azrrrrrrrr Год назад
Did you even hear what caedrel said? Lck teams are mega passive and if they are slightly behind they will most likely give all barons and drakes and fight only when their base is already broken into. Meanwhile in LPL even if you are ahead you wont get any advantage for free*without a fight)
@mukuljoshi0507
@mukuljoshi0507 Год назад
​@@azrrrrrrrr ya bro lpl teams are great . We've all seen that in worlds and will see at msi too. Lpl no. 1 siuuuuuuuuu
@azrrrrrrrr
@azrrrrrrrr Год назад
​@Mukul Joshi let me remind your bum ass that LPL won 3 of the last 4 MSIs meanwhile LCK hasnt won a single one of those 4
@user-yi3nn4pj4c
@user-yi3nn4pj4c Год назад
​@@mukuljoshi0507 siuuuuuuuuuuu
@windywindy9491
@windywindy9491 Год назад
@@azrrrrrrrr first time watching LCK for sure 💀💀 keep fighting like how JDG lost 4 fights in a row vs T1 just because they were behind and just fought without using their brain properly, thats how LPL works
@Ghost0fDeath1
@Ghost0fDeath1 Год назад
In this situation I think KT should have fight I think this approach should be dependent from the soul ,the hextech soul is very hard to beat without some extremely hard carry comp
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
Not just the soul, but also the state of the game, the team comps etc. If you have a good waveclear comp and can safely stall and deny baron takes, you can give soul and go for elder.
@user-ck4kq5zg7c
@user-ck4kq5zg7c Год назад
There is really no answer to this. I feel like LPL has way more ego, which is not a bad thing at all. In 2018 IG shattered G2 in finals with those egoistic plays, in 2019 FPX introduced whole different method to win a game, in 2020 it was DWG with perfect macro focusing on their jungle pathing. 2021 somewhat passive, slow EDG focusing on their bot lane. We will have to see this year's MSI. Unlike any other year, this year I really can't predict which region is better even by a bit after seeing JDG clown fiesta vs BLG and T1 going 5 sull set vs KT.
@micahm2844
@micahm2844 Год назад
Damwon also just won every skirmish
@kaichisendou
@kaichisendou Год назад
Not sure what you mean by that, KT played very well against T1
@user-ck4kq5zg7c
@user-ck4kq5zg7c Год назад
@@kaichisendou Yeah but I think T1 played really bad too compared to how they performed in regular season
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
There is an answer to this. There is a reason why the LCK is the best region in the world over the span of the past 10 years. Even EDG winning in 2021, it was kind of a fluke to begin with, but they also represented more of an LCK-style gameplay than LPL one.
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
@@user-ck4kq5zg7c No. T1 played as they always played. It's just a different meta where Keria couldn't abuse marksmen for support and other teams finally finding some synergy to play close to their potential. That's what a lot of T1 fans are wrong about. T1 retained the same team as last year so they were obviously going to smash the competition early on in the split, but as teams started building synergy and reading the meta correctly, the gap closed more and more with every passing week, to the point that KT almost beat T1 in a Bo5, GENG also almost beat them in the regular season and had a great showing in their Bo5 and they are 50-50 to win the finals in my eyes as well.
@michaeljustinesario1771
@michaeljustinesario1771 Год назад
Big difference I see this Spring Split: LCK - Team automatically win the game with a gold lead in 15 minutes. Unless they throw a objective teamfight. LPL - Screw the gold lead and screw the objective, we can't lose unless our nexus is destroyed. They also have a weak mindset of farming champions instead of minions and objectives while prolonging the next teamfight.
@azrrrrrrrr
@azrrrrrrrr Год назад
Good thi g we have you to tell us LPL teams have weak mindsets...they at least have brain unlike you
@CoffeeMonster01
@CoffeeMonster01 Год назад
it's called "scaling". even t1 is losing some games on scaling comps even with early gold lead.
@michaeljustinesario1771
@michaeljustinesario1771 Год назад
@@CoffeeMonster01 I mean like a what happen to geng vs t1 in round 2. T1 could have won but geng pulled a win with a teamfight in mid started by Peanut using Wukong.
@azzopnaw1749
@azzopnaw1749 Год назад
Nc observation
@geoforce6228
@geoforce6228 Год назад
Generally LCK slow and steady style is more consistent, but lpl lck comparison heavily depends on meta. I remember s7 every game was an hour lck feels invincible, they would strangle you slowly.
@sneakyp3869
@sneakyp3869 Год назад
It is funny how lck teams look more aggressive when they play at worlds. Weird
@nema4250
@nema4250 Год назад
They can go aggro mode against teams with lower macro levels or just decide to go aggro mode to snowball as fast as possible
@hughswanson2354
@hughswanson2354 Год назад
Clid would've fought for less, hes a true LCK hero.
@jackthomas3483
@jackthomas3483 Год назад
There also called “handshaking” in league. LPL teams handshake aggressive plays while LCK teams handshake more passive plays. But we’ve seen at worlds - often times a slower LCK team can grind the game to a halt (or make the enemy team look like they’re inting if they overforce). You can only really play as “fast” as the enemy team allows, as long as their players aren’t awful.
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
Exactly, and some people just fail to realize this. Whenever Worlds come around, I can always see the LPL fans thinking that their teams are op and fast paced and they will outmechanic and outtempo the LCK and I'm sitting there thinking that the LCK has the option to slow down the pace of the game if needs be, so the LPL style is rendered useless.
@tjeppe5685
@tjeppe5685 7 месяцев назад
@@ArcaneTricksterRS okay well now there's three lpl and one lck team in semis so regardless of if t1 win lck didnt really succeed with rendering lpl useless
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS 7 месяцев назад
@@tjeppe5685 I don't wanna put down the LPL this year, because they finally seem to have the edge over the LCK after 3 or so years, but you have to realize that LCK only had 3 teams instead of 4 in knockouts because DK vs KT happened. Also, GENG faced the #2 seed of the LPL and for knocked out in a very close game 5. WBG basically got a free pass to semis, by beating NRG (twice, once in knockouts), FNC and MAD. Not really a worthy road. KT had to basically face the top teams in the tournament, made quarters only to lose to the clear favorite. I don't think there is any world under the old format that we wouldn't get 4 LCK teams at quarters and WBG would also advance. This is more luck of the draw than LPL clearly being better than the LCK. The only real comparison between the two regions so far is BLG beating GENG. Everything else is luck of the draw that generally favored LPL and shit on LCK, mainly benefiting WBG and shitting on KT and DK.
@tjeppe5685
@tjeppe5685 7 месяцев назад
@@ArcaneTricksterRS okay but like that doesn't have to do with who's better. china second seed won korea first seed, chokers or not. and jdg looks best. if t1 pulls through it would be sick though
@tktvr9703
@tktvr9703 Год назад
Has there been an instance where a Team has lost with Hextech Soul Im curious to see what the stats are for soul winrates
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
For sure teams have lost even with Elder, or Baron, or 10k gold leads, or Hextech Soul, but I'm pretty sure the percentage is very low, not necessarily because the buffs are op, but because the team that gets 4 dragons usually means is better than the opponent team overall and is also stronger because they most likely snowballed to get to that stage in the first place.
@MacDaniboi
@MacDaniboi Год назад
It's 92% wr iirc
@mariokartapple
@mariokartapple Год назад
Hmm great analysis pedro
@YuYuYuna_
@YuYuYuna_ Год назад
LCK is more methodical whereas LPL is more raw instinct, "in the moment" playstyle.
@jaylenlai7731
@jaylenlai7731 Год назад
in VCS the tryna fight every single thing ahead of them, its funnier to watch tho
@lunarday2329
@lunarday2329 Год назад
LCK yield the nexus LPL going down swing
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
LCK playstyle is the best. Safe and steady. They train on ways to effectively gains early leads and through good communication, they are steadily ahead and pulling further ahead just a lil bit with every passing minute, eventually leading to a victory. And that is the playstyle that I enjoy. I enjoy it when a team plays correct LoL and wins, because players use their brain.
@yuchentrilovszky2413
@yuchentrilovszky2413 Год назад
well with what you said i dont think you are using your brain. very very biased xd "Best"
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 Год назад
there's no correct way of playing league, except for that inting strat. But LCK playstyle seems to have the most accomplishment so maybe that's the most replicable playstyle for winning
@zofise
@zofise Год назад
I also think the LCK's style of play is the most correct, but it's the hardest to execute. I believe the only region that can execute it perfectly is LCK itself. It might have something to do with the Korean culture of being extremely disciplined in their own society, and this ends up transferring to the game more easily than in other regions.
@spicycurry7238
@spicycurry7238 Год назад
I absolutely agree with you. Their region has showed true professionalism in the industry, and it honestly translates into their gameplay. Discipline, control, and execution. I have never been a fan of fiesta games , hence I do not like any other region. It feels too much that other orgs and regions are trying to glorify solo que mentality in the highest level of organized play.
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS Год назад
@@spicycurry7238 100% agree. People like to reward bad gameplay simply because it creates "action", when the real spice is correct execution, good strategy and following the gameplan.
@almightyraven8220
@almightyraven8220 Год назад
LPL aggression explains it
@jacoballey21
@jacoballey21 Год назад
how many times do we have to realize that calculated chaos (lpl) beats structured macro (lck)...appparently, a few more times
@rimnemocrowe7010
@rimnemocrowe7010 6 месяцев назад
lol why did this recommended to me
@justsomeguythatwantssometh9986
The real question is, which one is more based and alpha?
@laterbober4388
@laterbober4388 Год назад
Think it depends on comp and which soul. If you can still see your team scaling better even if you give soul than you stall. If not you flip it.
@SkyCLaw100
@SkyCLaw100 Год назад
Ultimately its better to fight the soul out of outplaying the teamfight in my opinion
@DocYAYAYA
@DocYAYAYA Год назад
LPL from behind is just fight until the game is over. It might work out 1/10 but chances are they lose anyway.
@azrrrrrrrr
@azrrrrrrrr Год назад
You clearly dont watch LPL then. LCK strat of losing everything without fighting has 1/10 success rate whilenin LPL it is 5/10 success rate
@Lalaaw
@Lalaaw Год назад
@@azrrrrrrrr clown take. Only thing good in LPL is teamfight and LCK is better at them on that side. Wherein LCK is worlds above in terms of Macro and their micro game is top notch. Take the L
@DocYAYAYA
@DocYAYAYA Год назад
@@azrrrrrrrr 50/50 is coping at his finest
@jiunnji3267
@jiunnji3267 Год назад
@@azrrrrrrrr As a viewer of LCK & LPL, I can say for sure that LPL will never win against LCK. LPL is so bad that it has 2 L's in its name. LPL only fights mindlessly like chickens without heads running around looking for kills. LPL has no sense of macro gameplay and 0 map control movements whereas LCK is much more superior in terms of teamfight coordination, map control and overall higher IQ macro decision making.
@resonance4789
@resonance4789 Год назад
@@azrrrrrrrr This guy's logic is the same as "You can either win or lose a teamfight, therefore the chance is 50%"
@timothyscibor9504
@timothyscibor9504 Год назад
you always.... always fight soul. Unless youre down top or bot inhib your fighting the obj and contesting mid idgaf what team you are. Why not give yourself an extra chance to stall 5 or 10 min per obj for a team to make a mistake? Equally and opposite likely one or more players make a mistake around wave pressure/tps/obj timers. Its league man. And if you cant play turtle with two inhibs down you probably dont deserve to play the part of the game you can actually win
@tomyvecety5715
@tomyvecety5715 Год назад
if you fight soul and lose you probably lose the game because your going to lose baron after if you coinclip elder and steal it you have a much higher chance of winning a doomed game but most teams will fight for soul unless they literally can't
@SuperMarvz
@SuperMarvz Год назад
Lol with elder you can have bugger chance of winning and will give you 5min to get a comeback whereas if you lose the soul fight you're done. Anyway who will believe this caedrel anyway, he is just back with his usual BS and biased analysis. No wonder LEC doesn't have worlds trophy because of analysts like this.
@dave1123
@dave1123 Год назад
That's basically what he said.. lol... lck teams would rather give soul and hang on for the elder and shoot a prayer with the scaling, than fight for soul and get aced and lose automatically (which lpl teams does)
@xBox360BENUTZER
@xBox360BENUTZER Год назад
Depending on the comp you could give soul, if you have good waveclear and baron is down you can stall it out, if you have a pick or poke comp you could kill one off or force them back and if you have some kind of burst all in comp you can delete them with a good engage. The chances of that working are just as low but if you are far behind it is probably a better option to surprise them then to fight at the objective where the enemy expects them and set up vision.
@carreragt000
@carreragt000 Год назад
LCK > LPL
@allthingsstreamed9174
@allthingsstreamed9174 Год назад
LPL is just LCK with one extra chromosome.. the end
@yub9506
@yub9506 Год назад
Oh like ur mommy ?
@teejaylacar5941
@teejaylacar5941 Год назад
LPL is just like LCS with better mechanics
@sneakyp3869
@sneakyp3869 Год назад
I disagree. LCS is slow asf if you haven't seen. Even LCK is more aggressive than thr LCS
@teejaylacar5941
@teejaylacar5941 Год назад
@@sneakyp3869 nah LCS= CLOWN FIESTA= LPL = CLOWN FIESTA WITH MECHANICS
@sneakyp3869
@sneakyp3869 Год назад
@@teejaylacar5941 Yea but LPL is fast as in LCS, they dont do anything and drags the game for ages. LPL is not slow like the LCS
@teejaylacar5941
@teejaylacar5941 Год назад
@@sneakyp3869 yeah but both region are clown both region. Compare to LEC and LCK with they got early lead of 1k in the next 5-10 mins it's 5k+ while on LCS and LPL when they got that lead they start choking.
@mistywww3199
@mistywww3199 Год назад
@@teejaylacar5941 lpl clown regioon yet they have dominated worlds every year recently except 2022?
@lemonhaze1506
@lemonhaze1506 Год назад
G2 clears these teams btw
@twilightm5
@twilightm5 Год назад
u have to be joking
@xxDxxism
@xxDxxism Год назад
CANT EVEN SMELL QUARTERFINALS LMAO
@lemonhaze1506
@lemonhaze1506 Год назад
@@logicman4837 it’s not a joke, wait till MSI
@azzopnaw1749
@azzopnaw1749 Год назад
Bark
@justinbowman3567
@justinbowman3567 Год назад
BrokenBrain going to get his wig split in half at MSI 😂
@lebronjames-oo8gg
@lebronjames-oo8gg Год назад
Its easy LCK is boring while LPL is fun i remember first time watching LCK game the game ended without even having a teamfight the game ended in 3-0 in kills lol
@Iker5555
@Iker5555 Год назад
That means you didnt watch lck since 2017 when they were the undisputed best ones and played super safe. The average time on lck is 1 min away from lpl and 21 avg kills against 25 on lpl so nothing close to 3-0...
@azzopnaw1749
@azzopnaw1749 Год назад
U haven't seen the worst bro stop talking this is not even close to boring
@sendongshakur2604
@sendongshakur2604 Год назад
name a better lpl series than skt vs rox , t1 vs drx?
@resonance4789
@resonance4789 Год назад
If you think clown fiesta is fun, watch low elo games. 20 kills in 5 minutes
@lmaoquan9534
@lmaoquan9534 Год назад
@@resonance4789 yes i did i watch low elo games , its actually fun , because its a video game i find the fun not to force myself in watching "top tier league" like lck but its boring gameplay
@nomad6666
@nomad6666 Год назад
If lpl didn't always steal the top tier lck players, lck would never miss a championship. Koreans are smart and there is a reason they play like that.
@siren2087
@siren2087 Год назад
Stop bringing politics into this. How well or how smart a person is should not be dependent on his nationality. Plus, LPL can't force ppl to join them. The players decide for themselves where they want to go
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