Calculating exactly how much wax and oil you need for any container 

Hi Justin... im just starting with candle making. So i'm planning to make 4 oz, and 8 oz candles. The video was confusing to me... but if i'm reading your comment correct, with a 16 oz bag of wax, you only use 14 oz, and then add 2 oz of fragrance to equal back up to 16 oz, right?

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It's simple to u...but not everyone understands this.

Umm sir how was that simple I'm bad at math you helped no one

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It is basic to some, but there are of course some people that love a visual demonstration and not have someone insinuate they're stupid for not understanding.

@@StandleyHandcrafted thank you

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It seems like you should do 5.5oz x .10 Which equals .55 Fragrance

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@@whitebreading The total candle of 16 oz would be 100%...so if you want 6% FO it would be: 16oz x 6%= .96oz fragrance 16oz x 94% = 15.04 wax Total Wax & Frag is 100% (6% FO....94% wax = 100%)

Gary In Canada, so does 32 oz = 3.8 oz of oil?

This one is so much easier to follow! Thank you

Omg i literally read what you put slowly and actually got it OMGGGGG!! Now here’s a question how do you do the math for multiple jars say 4 jars. If you could please do a break down just like you did on the one above, it would help me so much! Right now I’m using 8.5oz vessels with a fragrance oil of 10%. I want to see what you get so i can check my math to see if it matches up. I really hope you see this❤️

@@SexyChoclateThunder Hi Keisha! So happy this was helpful!! Here's the same calculation using your numbers. Goal: 8.5 oz vessel with 10% fragrance load (x 4 vessels) 1st Calculation to determine wax: Wax ounces / fragrance load percentage (8.5/1.10 = 7.73oz total wax per vessel) 2nd Calculation to determine fragrance: Wax x 0.1 (7.73oz x 0.1 = .77oz) For one 8.5oz container, I want 7.73oz of wax and .77oz of oil 7.73 + .77 = 8.5oz. For 4 containers I just multiplied the wax and oil x 4 and it came to 30.91oz of wax and 3.09oz of oil.

@@SharonClerico oh my good lord I got the same number and now i see how you multiplied the total amount of wax by 4 vessels to get the total of wax needed. And then the total amount of oil by 4 to get the total amount of Fo needed! Ok I’m gonna do another one of my vessels and see if you get the same numbers as me and the i have a final question about how do you do the math when you want to blend two oils. But for now my second science math was this. My second vessel size 9.4oz Step one: 9.4oz / 1.10% =8.54oz(wax) Step two: 8.54oz(wax) X 0.1(Fo)=0.85(Fo) Step three: 8.54oz (wax) t 0.85(Fo)=9.390z Final step: 8.54oz wax times 4jars=34.160z wax 0.85oz (Fo) x 4(jars)=3.4oz (Fo) I hope that’s correct i think I’m off by one to be exact but let me know is that’s correct and then I’ll know if I’m all the way right. My next step is to find out when i want to blend to fragrance oils how do i know how to measure the France oils so they can both add up to 10%. Your break downs REALLY HELPED ME!!! And it’s funny because I’m a visual learner but you saved my WHOLE LIFE!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ty for replying. I can’t wait to hear back from you!

@@SexyChoclateThunder Hi! I responded to this last night and now I'm not seeing my reply. Your numbers are great! My numbers were just a tiny bit different as my excel spreadsheet rounded up the 8.545 of wax to 8.55 which then made the other numbers a tiny bit different. No clue where my response went! If you don't see it, let me know and I'll type it out again but, your numbers look great!!! :)

@@SharonClerico omg Thank you so much!! You should start your own channel because I finally got now after seeing your reply. Like Keisha Mack I need to also learn how to do the math when blending two oils combine oils to get 10% fragrance load?

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Did you find out? I need to know how to calculate unmelted wax.

You weigh it on a scale.

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malisa hopkins airs amazing you ask this question right now. I am literally in the process of making a video that asks this very question right now. I’ll have it up later this evening But to answer early, yes this exact formula works for any amount of vessels. One or four or ten.

Realcrime Exposed If that is the percentage you’re going for then yes you would.

You can do that, but it gives you a total weight of 17.6oz. That would be too much for a 160z container. If you want to know much total (wax and FO) for a specific container then use the formula. Hope that helps. But you may have it figured out by now :-)

ive learned that you should use wax to weigh and not water. Water weighs more than wax. Use your same method just replace the water with wax and let us know how that worked for you.

Shouldn't it be like..wax- double the capacity of the container, and 10% of that total weight FO or EO? 🤔 make melts from the leftover if there's any.. Right?

You don't need to multiple again, the difference is your amount. I did that just to show that it was 10% for those would ask

That actually worked for me :)

Carla Ferrier I haven’t worked with beeswax yet. I’m not sure what the percentages are but the calculations should be the same.

Carla Ferrier Never mind.

Find out how much melted wax in weight your jar will hold up to your desired full level. Once you know that, use that number to calculate your FO load rate.

Fill to the fill line :)

@@StandleyHandcrafted I didn't explain myself properly 😂 let's say I have a jar that's 5 oz & the "fill line" is 4 oz which one would be the correct one for the formula?

Hi Lucian, what I have realized in practice and research is that FO should be added at 180 degree F as this is a good temperature to allow wax and the FO to bind properly to get a strong scent throw!

@@SyedMZafar doesn't the fragrance burn off some at 180?.. I've seen alot of comments stating it being added at a high temp can burn alot of it off..appreciate the input .

Z Atmosphere theoretically, yes. But intuitively no. When the wax is not, molecules move from a solidified state to a gas state and therefore are rapidly moving and as such have time and availability to interact with FO molecules. In order to ensure a proper connection per molecule you have to mix it as well in order to keep molecules moving at a fast rate. This is obvious from a chemical standpoint. I know Jeff talks about the low-temp method which is also viable but the mixing part is essential due to molecule movement. When things are cold molecules don’t move rapid if not at all. When they are heated they are rapidly moving with the container. Low temp method can help but the crucial part is to continuously mix to ensure that the wax molecules are still moving enough to help them interact with the FO molecule.

@@SyedMZafar sooo would be beneficial to run 12% fragrance instead of 6% , and add it at 180? Continually stirring occasionally? I just want this to have a good scent when it's lit etc, ty for all your input and time

Z Atmosphere No problem at all, I’m not sure how the 12% fragrance load would actually work. Because the amount that would dissipate due to the high temp is variable. Plus if the right amount doesn’t dissipate tans you end up having an 11% Fragerence load you’ll end up having sweating. Imagine you had 14 marbles ( let’s say these are the FO molecules) and then you have 10 marbles (let’s say these are the wax molecules) there would be more FO marbles than Wax marbles and therefore they wouldn’t bind/connect properly with each other because there’s too much saturation. Even if 2 marbles were to be lost to high temp there’s still an excess. Sorry if that confuses you. Personally, I think you should test two ways. One following normal instructions of manufacturer with 10% FO and just gently and continuously mix with a few breaks till

Sorry for the late reply, I'm just now revisiting this thread. While it's true that 14.4 and 1.6 add up to 16, when you use that ratio, you're actually increasing the FO% since 1.6 is more than 10% of 14.4. Using the full formula (i.e dividing by 1.1 for wax weight) preserves your 10% ratio. Like Jeff said, it's not critical for small batches, but it makes a difference when you're pouring in bulk.

@@mariamcdonald345 thank you so much

yes

If you're pouring 9oz of wax and using 10% FO then the formula would look like this. 9/1.10 = 8.18 Then 8.18 x .10= 0.82. amount of wax you're pouring/1.(%FO)= X then (X) x (%FO)= amount of oil you need in ounces. This is the way I understood it. I hope this helps.

It depends on the oil percentage you want to use. If you wanted a 10% ratio, you would multiple 32oz by .10 9% wound be .09 8% .08 And so on

The weights would be the same

Depends on your wax type. The manufacturer should provide you with a max percentage.

I always work with grams, use grams for both wax and fo

Loren Cate This calculation works for all waxes.

To eliminate any confusion on exactly how much melted wax a jar will hold (in weight), I would recommend filling a single jar with melted wax to the desired level and weigh it. That will give you a definite answer as to how much melted wax by weight each of your different size jars will hold. Be sure to notate it somewhere for future references. Once you know exactly how much wax your jars hold, you can do the formula for your wax and FO load ratio.

That would be 1.07 Eight ounces would be 1.08 Nine ounces would be 1.09

works exactly the same way in grams as it does in ounces.

GypsyGoddess No it would be less than that. Probably around 7oz total

@@StandleyHandcrafted So 7oz wax, .8oz oil?

I tried 7oz and I was wayyy short of the amount I needed to fill the jar :(

John Agnello It would just be this X 10

@@StandleyHandcrafted Great, thank you.

80 0z x .10 = 8.0 oz of FO

John Agnello 80 oz x .10 = 8.0 oz of FO

Convert all your units into weight (so grams) and the formula will work just the same as it does in ounces.

Edward C This video covered this exactly. What did it miss for you?

​@@StandleyHandcrafted Thank you for asking. Let me see if I can get this across without being cumbersome. The weight of 1 cm3 of wax is 0.9 grams (water is 1 gram). So when you're calculating to fill an X fl oz container, you need to multiply X by 0.9 to determine how much TOTAL weight you need before doing any other calculations. So if I were to take that into account, here's how I would think the forumula would go: - Desired container size: 16 fl oz total volume - Multiply fl oz by .9 to account for wax expansion: 14.4 oz - Divide by the desired percentage of PO+1 (example: 1.12) to get the desired wax weight: 14.4 oz / 1.12 = 12.85 - Multiply the desired ratio of PO (.12) by the desired wax weight (12.85) to get the desired weight of PO: 1.54 oz Final numbers desired for a 16 fl oz container with a 12% perfume load: - 12.85 oz of wax - 1.54 oz perfume oil

That calculation assumes that PO has the same weight/volume ratio of wax, which probably isn't accurate, but since the PO is only 8-12% of the total formula, the difference would be negligible. If PO is closer to the 1 volume/weight ratio of water, you could change the initial 0.9 expansion multiplier to 0.91 to account for the ~10% PO ratio.

Edward C OK I see what you mean now and you are exactly right. This video was strictly meant to show the difference between adding 10% and making the 10% part of the total weight and does factor in the expansion for figuring out new containers. Good catch. Your formula would actually make a great part two for this video. If you don’t mind I’d love to quote the formula and shout you out and make a part two or addendum to this video.

@@StandleyHandcrafted As long as you test it first, and don't worry about the credit - we're all here to learn from you :D

It depends on the oil percentage you want. I use 8% So that would be around 6oz total (wax+oil) 5.33oz wax .4oz oil

@@StandleyHandcrafted thank you I will give this a shot.