Call of Duty Vanguard Was WORSE Than You Remember 

I miss vanguard.

@@thecataclysman my best moments were playing vangaurd with my friends Edit:this was a joke, hated vangaurd

@@CardiacYew-xt5zq nah, I actually like the WW2 setting and… you know, being able to move and having a regular minimap.

@@CardiacYew-xt5zq *cycle continues*

@@thecataclysman it was a ww2 game?

It's like some teen wrote the script and was like *"Wow like that so epic, i'll write that in yeah man so radical"*

How did someone write that and not just cringe

44:22 😮Yh

Lmao that makes sense, I remember watching the cutscenes and thinking to my self,"why do I feel like I'm watching a marvel movie? "

U?c

that... that explains it

No, the issue is that all of the missions were flashbacks lmao

They can't say that because it would be a disgrace and downright disrespect to the genuine people who fought in that miserable war, because of the game's grotesque Hollywoodization and outright false depictions of the war.

⁠@@friendofp.24 so you’re telling me that the Russians were able capture Stalingrad because of the millions of people that lost their lives fighting and not because a female sniper really disliked nazis?

Is that really what you got for Vanguard ​​⁠@@ItsDatGuy969? Is that what you thought it was trying to say? I don’t care much for the game either but that’s a stretch. I think you have other issues that are bigger than the game. Lol

​@@ItsDatGuy969wasnt that sniper girl not even in that battle

The real OGs will remember "No cows were harmed in the making of this game"

Exactly. They want to call white people like me racist yet they are creating stereotypical black people with no depth, so its also hypocritical. Activision are the racist ones.

​@@nitroxylictvWho is calling you racist?

Possibly, although I imagine that's in part because back then, many black men inparticular had far more barriers to enter other occupations. So many turned to sports or music.

It’s being written by modern marvel comic book writers; you know, the company that had a guy draw Miles morales as an asgardian but, with stereotypical “in tha hood” look-like having graffiti be drawn on the Mjnnor?

@@DeadlyAlienInvaderMiles Morales is a good game though I like the story a lot. The Music and Artwork is fitting I mean he's a teenager ...

Same I had my fun with. But I don’t recommend it

You're a god-damn hero!

They ain’t ya boys if they let you buy the game. Did it not have a beta?

Worst Call of Duty I’ve ever had the displeasure of playing, and it’s not really close

Bro Battlefield 2042 was the worst 70 dollars I have ever spent

I can see why people love Warzone but I wish they never made it. They keep fusing the stand-alone games with it.

Just battlefield 1. I would say it's more or less passable. .not good. Battlefield 5 though was terrible

​@@forresttilghman1098the tiger one is the best and even better than 2 of the stories of bf1

dude the intro of battlefield 1 is a masterpiece alone

​@@forresttilghman1098the tiger story legit knocked it out of the park; but that's kinda it lol

@jamesmackes4531 cgi wise but gameplay design noooo... Map design is alright but I would say call of duty and halo are the better fps story games

The Battle Of Kursk

battles of the caucuses

Massacre of Nanjing and the entirety of unit 731 I get that stuff is dark but sledgehammer showed to an extent a extermination camp in ww2

@anthony DiPietro true if they already done that. Let the player experience the Long March the Japanese did to PoWs or play as a Civilian during the Bombings of Tokoyo/Kyoto, or if only doing Europe...of Dresden, Hamburg, pr Frankfurt. There are stories of people trying to find children, but only found puddles

@@ryanmann9842 I don’t care about that. I care about the skill gap the game has to offer

WHAT A VIDEO GAME ISNT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE😱😱⁉️⁉️⁉️

@@d.d5619 the problem is not being not historically accurate, is being garbage for the sake of wokeness

@@d.d5619there’s being historically inaccurate for gameplay and being wrong because the truth hurts your modern toad brain.

@@d.d5619 The original 2 cod games and waw was more accurate

Lol I didn’t even play this pos can’t believe they dogged the boys

They k ow it'll sell. So why waste time making it good when ppl are gonna buy it? Remember, the 1st priority of any for profit company is TO PROFIT. They're merely cutting development costs.

Cus the customer doesn’t matter anymore, all ESG scores are what matter now. Everything will keep getting more diverse and woke just for the sake of it, and investors will keep funding the companies as the ESG stays high, this is happening in every major corporate body. Don’t have to worry about customer backlash when the investors will keep you afloat, just keep the propaganda and demoralization cranking away

If u know, they have so much history of fecking up with game devs since like, late 90's. Look up SiN. That game has potential, but cuz of publisher time limits, it got released the same way Cyberpunk 2077 was.

They also like writing anti whtie racist stories for some reason. The gaming industry is starting to mimic the movie industry. Its all politically motivated garbage thats half-assed and loses money every time. Doesn't make sense to be honest. The 90's and 2000's were some of the greatest years for gaming and television and it somehow only peaked then and never kept getting better.

@@nitroxylictvIt’ll all crash soon hopefully. Now they’re charging $70 as the standard price for every game AAA or indie it’s ridiculous

You mean like what WaW did 15 years ago? lol

That isn't new. That's literally every piece of WW2 media post Saving Private Ryan

@@clamcrewcarclub6017 God, the opening in WaW is gruesome And then we get to Russian side opening...

Isn’t that BFV? I never got the game but I heard they focus on the eastern front and battles that aren’t as well known too bad they didn’t make a D day

You mean WaW when you see limbs be blown off and people on fire.

Having mute characters in cod though should be a thing of the past

nah aw was decent

They are all dead gone and forgotten that’s why they said that

@@Flynnwhite93 yeah back then it was fine but now it is starting to get annoying

@@lifeisshrt7929 I just don’t know why ghosts advance warfare infinite warfare are all hated at least give me the answer

Sjw's ruin everything

Hell Let Loose

Do you play the other recent CODs? Like the MW and MWII remakes? And here's why I ask. I see a lot of people complain about the utter lack of historicity in modern, mainstream WW2 games (and justly so), but sometimes I get the impression that these people are angry history nerds who don't even play COD/BF in the first place. So what I'd like to know is how much of the (current) COD playerbase wants a more WW2-ey game or do most of them just not give a shit. Like would a modern take on COD2 be viable these days? You could add kill streaks, perks, fluid modern movement etc. But if you had historically accurate gun customization (aka. not much), I think you'd have bunch of the playerbase whining about how boring the guns are and how they want customization back. You might make some old-time COD players happy. But it would be more niche. I don't think it would sell as well or hold players as long. And that's the biggest reason such a COD game likely won't ever be made. Why would ACTIVISION want a COD that would at best be only moderately financially successful? COD established its formula long ago, and it best suits games set in the modern era. They are not going to change it to respect history. Don't get me wrong, I think a (mostly) historically accurate casual WW2 game is sorely needed, but it's not gonna come from COD IMO. But, I'm curious what your thoughts on the matter are.

@@Uncle_Ruckus_ With all due respect, that's kind of a non-answer. Hell Let Loose is a hardcore, teamwork-centered walking sim that's got a steep learning curve. Now I'm not saying HLL is a bad title. It's great for hardcore players, but what I think the OP wants (see what I did there 😉) and what other casual gamers want is a World War 2 game that's actually WORLD WAR 2 and actually a GAME. Like a modern incarnation of BF 1942 or COD2.

@@marcelthevirginian1656 you want realism right? Soldiers don't learn how to fight wars overnight

Soup 🍵

I meant Soap, that was a mistype

Or Mason and Woods.

"No memorable characters"... 3 words....VIKTOR FUCKEN REZNOV.

Sledgehhammer were forced to bring ninja perk otherwise it would have been a massive failure, it still didn't have classic minimap (locked behind a perk) and no map voting

How is bringing a hard crutch perk back a good thing? We gonna start adding one man army and danger close coz the community wants it?

vanguard wasn't great but still somehow better than mw2 thats how dogshit the new cods are lol

@@burst5925 nah bro, it's the worst cod game ever, after seeing this, I thought maybe cold war wasn't bad

The trophy system came 3-4months into the game It’s was dead by new years. That simply isn’t good enough.

What piss me off is the waste with the soviet girl, they could’ve put her in Pavlov’s house defense that could’ve worked perfectly. But yeah….. they screw up all..

I think we just have our standards so high for games that it’s hard to enjoy even below average games tbh

Damn.

I honestly feel the actual developers of the game want to make something awesome. But the owner activision has deadlines and profits to hit and they could careless about our experience until they start losing money.

@@spakentruth Got him to try BF1. He pretty much ends up rage quitting every single day after a couple of rounds. He can't break free from that brainless playstyle from the newer CoDs and K/D-matters mentality. I did tell him about other great CoDs but he never ended up trying any of them. Instead he decided to jump from Warzone/MW to Pubg and that's what he's been maining. Not much else I can do, he's shaping up to be yet another mainstream gamer.

Battlefield 2042 was a full waste of time about on equal level as Vanguard. BF 4, 1 and 5 have repopulated (in that order) due to 2042 being a full failure.

Yeahhhh there was no consistency, attention to detail, or care for accuracy… at all lol i don’t understand making a game based on history and then not caring about the history. Blew the immersion for me and my bf, too.

Let's not forget the constantly returning revolving shotgun

Because this was history designed for call of duty fans. All it needed was the general idea of world war 2 to seen authentic

A black female nazi is a literal oxymoron, who on either side of the political isle or any average gamer would want that?

Where in the game are female black Nazis?

I personally requested those females

And ghost and soap were real people who were historically accurate. That logic sucks ass, it’s a video game series where you respawn and kill people over and over. If you want more realistic games there are other options that cater to that feel

@Creepyreapz the game literally said the Russian woman single handedly changed the tide of the war, and the devs said constantly we're going for realism and to show historical events, mw2 was a fictional event in history that was forced on the characters and events going on with them, don't come and argue something if you don't know what your talking about

@@andrewmeredith15 name one cod game with a historically accurate story

@Creepyreapz 1,2,3 waw. Real events, real people, real deaths, you're just a cog in the machine.

@@andrewmeredith15 Bruv who plays Cod for campaign story historical accuracy, the playable characters in all those games you just mentioned still aren’t real people, and the primary focus of cod is the multiplayer, my point still stands, there’s nothing realistic about it. And 1,2,3 and world at war? Wow came out in 2008 how freaking old are you? The fact that “historical accuracy” in a game series with nerf gun attachment switching, animated gun skins, unlimited lives. Being able to instantly heal yourself, dropping ridiculous killstreak perks etc, is rather laughable. You old people just like to hate on newer games and keep pretending like the games from when you were younger are better when that couldn’t be less true is just brain dead

@Kidd Thunder I still main bo4 and 3 till this day with IW on the side imo bo4 along with 3 has more content than all the new game’s combined not to mention all the dlc can be earned without spending a dime and each gun isn’t locked behind a 30$ paywall also imo those games had the best prestige camos all the new ones suck in the currents cods except for plague diamond and dark aether from cw zombies which I ended up grinding before I realized that game was going no where

I'd say vanguard zombies is better than black ops 2 3 and 4

@@matthewterry3869 and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself

@@Hectoreo right back at you it's hilarious that people think vanguard is so bad

@@matthewterry3869 It's too obvious. You need to be more subtle when trolling, or else no one will fall for it. If you wanted to piss some people off without giving it away, go with "all the old black ops games were just as bad as vanguard". You'll absolutely get people with that.

Pre-order shouldn't exist as a business concept.

​@@tonypeppermint5329especially pre ordering cod games, big yikes

Crazy that it took you to experience a bad game to make you stop preordering cod, instead of having common sense and not preordering at all

BO4 was the only COD I pre-ordered and was the last one. Never pre-order a game

I'm glad the last game I pre-ordered was Black Ops 2.

Yeah, playing Wolfenstien 2009 and Singularity its clear Raven have the better skill when it comes to the basic concept of fun.

@@asscheeks3212 Raven also developed CoD online which looked insanely fun, but was sadly only released in China

Happens every year. People can’t cope with the fact that the marketing lies worked on them once again and they spent 70$ on a garbage game so they brag about how much fun they have with their financial mistake.

I thought it was great... ive played COD since the FIRST one on pc.

@@derrickdavis7917Awesome to let us know you lack standards throughout life

How was it offensive? Explain please.

I saw a 1917 bolt action with a magazine. Like that can never happen. It has a bolt action, it's not like a Mosin with a built in mag. It's a 1917

The visual mess and utter eyesore that is modern FPS guns, cosmetics and art direction is a problem that goes beyond just CoD Vanguard.

She's basically typecasted.

@@mattd5240 It's true! Which sucks cuz shes so talented and funny when she does characters like her own character Jester in critical role or even some of her old stuff like Lucina from FE or even some older anime, but recently shes just been type casted as characters like Paulina, the one girl from Gears of War, or the hulk hogan randy savage wannabe in The last of us. Just goes to show type casting can really hurt an actors career

@@blackdimond115 Actors need to learn to turn down certain rolls.

How do you voice great characters and then go and voice characters in games like the Vanguard Campaign, Avengers, and Last of Us 2 💀

@@raidengoodman8754 because directors type cast actors, especially Neil Cuckman who has a weird and creepy fetish for casting her as the "strongwoman" character that is literally the worst written and most unlikable characters in the entirety of media. Like i said though, thats not her fault cuz shes done phenomenal characters like Jester, Maka, Lucina etc.

but thats not really true.. cod DID used to be good.. really good

I think it’s that and a combination of getting older, time to pass the torch to the new guys.

Activision has just sucked anything unique from the games to make room for the same bland warzone formulas every game after mw 2019 has been the exact same thing and adding battle passes to the game have just turned the series into a huge cashgrab

@@BoxOfCurryos that’s what cod did pass it to the new guys and they ruined the franchise

Naaaa it just sucked since black ops 2

Cold War should have been delayed to 2021, Vanguard should have been cancelled completely and MWII should have been delayed to 2023

​@ArshKhanLM30 Yes but the execs want their money lol. I didn't buy Vanguard because it was set in WW2 and so many things were just bad about it lol. We thought there wasn't going to be a new full release this year and apparently we're getting mw2 2.5 lol. I am interested to see how that going to look. So many problems with mw2. I probably won't buy it.

@@Miguelon88888 Cold War took place in the 80s just like irl

@@Miguelon88888 ain’t no way you said COLD WAR had so many things wrong about it.. Vanguard was the horrible one.. Cold War took place in the 80’s, not in WW2

@@TheGJgaming07 lol. I made a mistake, I meant to say Vanguard 😅😅

They did bring on at least one actual historian, it was the same guy who they brought on for cod ww2.

Sam Maggs wrote this game (Vanguard)... She also wrote Anthem, Mass Effect Andromeda and Tiny Tina's Wonderland. She was gonna write KoToR remake but left that position. Look up this person, shes very controversial.

@@tanos857 I am communist... But I have little tolerance for these sjw types... I can see it from a mile away the kind of eprson that she is.

Yeah vanguard had some really cool map

Multiplayer gameplay,guns and movement was on point. And those maps as you mentioned. I think that Vanguard multiplayer was fun.

You really think a game about a real-world conflict isn't going to have political commentary?

@@gamerinatrance3618 yeah it had the wrong type. anyway they went the alternate history route

Cry about it

WW2 shooters need to end, there's too many.

Looking back to WW2s campaign (as a German) the story that it tells really touched my heart. Walking through the concentration camp while I have visited Dachau gave me goosebumps. They really catched a feeling in this scene and you clearly see that they paid a lots of respect in WW2. In vanguard it seems like they forgot about the honor and respect that the soldiers defenetely have deserved.

WW2 was a great game

BF1 FTW

​@@gabrielrodriguez4411 true that

How is Finest Hour functionally different from Vanguard then? If they both have diverse characters abd diverse theaters of war then the only difference left is this nebulous concept of "an agenda". I personally think Vanguard messed up cause its mostly disjointed flashbacks of each character's origin story.

White boy is a pretty tame insult compared to what was often used on the opposite end.

You think that's bad you should have seen the gun customisation (or should I say defilement). Some of them shouldn't even function

It was a great campaign and was fun as hell to play and the characters were great. War is hell, a video game shouldn't be. Cry about it.

⁠​⁠@@luisprado7107cope

Dude AW was dope.

It could have also just been one big infiltration mission from the start, with each characters backgrounds being explored not by flashbacks but them in each mission doing what got them picked to begin with. Clearly this team was assembled with a goal in mind, so it makes no sense to not show them using their experience and skills for one last battle.

So true. Literally the main reason I couldn't vribg myself to really like the campaign was cause 90% of it was disjointed flashbacks where all the characters have no association with each other.

no need, if you're self-aware enough to not buy cod games year after year no matter what's in em you're not their target audience. they'd never say it out loud but they're primarily trying to appeal to kids who don't know any better, there's a reason cod has the most squeakers out of any AAA franchise out there lol

Dude I would rather eat lead then play warzone 2

It's a sad time, debating which terrible Cod is worse than the other terrible Cods.

Not mw2. Say whatever you want about mw2. It's far superior than Vanguard

This is kinda true. Hitler, as devilishly evil as that prick was, he definitely had a cartoonish villain vibe considering all the impractical and outlandish shit he wanted to pull, and the Soviet Union did have a good number of insanely talented female snipers. Hell, they even had the Night Witches, a group of female IL-2 pilots who attacked German positions from the air at night.

Agreed. Modern Warfare 2 is just literally a rehash of a 15 year old game. And it’s worse!!! Lmao

What are you smoking? Can I have it?

I gotta call bullshit on this one.😂

Fax

They haven't made a good zombies sense bo1

@@matthewterry3869 I love Cold War Zombies. Granted it's literally the only Zombies i played so far (i exclude Vanguard because... yeah)

@@coldfries8976 never played cold war but but vanguard zombies is pretty good other than my favorite world of war zombies and black ops 1

@@matthewterry3869💀💀💀 this guy thinks vanguard zombies is good

@@marbl3d45 I know right was better than cod zombies 3 for sure

Which operator?

How was it woke though?

They made the”white boy” personal look bad as if they are evil. You got short haired lesbian characters. Bi sexual men in character bios and the fact they made a women change the outcomes of the wa. Makes absolute no sense and kinda disrespectful. And I love the fact they tried to keep it historically accurate quote on quote when there are lesbians and made up faction characters that had no reason to be in the game.

@wingsofblackedbrandy4798 So it's just like BF 5 then? They use the "historically accurate" excuse but replace real life soldiers and battles with annoying characters that weren't part of it?

Both games are bad.

MW2019 and MW2 are the worst COD’s I’ve played.

Cold War was better than both combined.

Both of them are worse even it's disgrace and shame to cod series.

@@saadsnjawe136y’all hate just to hate lol .. probably stuck in the past as well

Which writer?