Caller makes the BEST PLAY in No Limit Poker (Bart's Impressed) 

Player dependant. Vs an unknown I'll refer to how my image has been since villain sat down.

@@williamzagarella8066 just lean towards going for thin value more often. Live players love to call

this is standard bet just like you explained. bet 150ish and fold to a shove... definitely never check this rivewr.

Not as often as I should great call

My win rate has exponentially gone up since implementing this value bet/fold strategy.

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Great show I love when Bart breaks down s hand

U should watch Bart's videos crush live poker "old School value " that changed the way I play as before I did not even know what value betting was .

Good Advice. As they will have to evaluate what your hand is. As I see bluffing as an out as well. If for some reason you don't river a card that improves your hand. I just don't make a habit of this either..

Shh why are you telling everybody. Keep some secrets to yourself.

Yep. Until you've seen it, assume they can't do it.

You lose against KQh and Q10h as well.

@@calinator51 Ya but only the suited versions of those would ever make it to the river, so add 2 more combos I guess. I didn't include a number of lower flush draws that could make it or miss which is a fair point.

@@neilquinn you can’t include all the flush draws because they won’t call your value bet. Also J9hh is impossible… Hands that almost definitely call and you beat are: KJ (8), JTs (2) that’s 10 combos. Hands that definitely call (or raise) and you lose to are: A4hh (1) QJ (6) KQhh (1) QThh (1) That’s 9 combos. So I’d say it’s pretty tight. If he can have AQhh then it’s a tie. Now maybe you argue he has all JTo which gives another 6 combos of hands you beat. But then does he ever slow play 22/33/55? Probably not but who knows.

Watched to the end…guess I didn’t include J9s for another 2 combos hero beats.

How loose is our opponent. Calling a raise with JToff/QJoff/KJoff is a bit thin. But, of course, a lot of folks will do so. They will also call more if you have been raising a lot from this position on a wide range. If they only call the suited versions of these hands and you can include J9s aa well, the math changes a lot. I also think he could have flopped a set and chosen to call until the river. My first guess it that he has about 4 KJ (all KJ suited and a few KJ off. 4 JT and maybe just the 2 J9s . I'd give him about 3 QJ hands since he should be folding some of them preflop. I'd give him 22, 33 and 55 also, but maybe only 1 55 instead of 3. He has all the AhXh, including AhQh. He might call the turn with any AK/AQ hand too, if he is fool enough to count all 10 of his outs as live. Maybe give him 1 or 2 of those. I might give him one 54s hand too, since some players will just fold to the initial raise. So give him 3-QJ, 1-55, 3-33, 3-22 and 2-A4s that beat you. (he might peel As4s, though that one should probably bluff raise). This gives him 12 combos that beat you. and 10 value hands that you are still ahead of. WIth all this in mind, what will he raise with? Probably just QJ. Even AhQh and KhQH should be very leery of raising. Your value range has all the AA/KK/QQ and JJ and possibly sets too. Most of your value range beats his pair of Queens. For this reason, a bet/fold strategy seems OK, especially since actual opponents probably have a wider range since live players always show up with random stuff like 99 or 56s or A2s With this SPR, a bet/fold strategy seems odd, but it probably still best. But because so much of his calling range does beat me, I am not betting all in here.

......it's very hard to get 3 streets of value these days....players just fold more...don't worry about this thin value BS.....work on bluffing more.

Problem is. If he checks. He has less equity in the pot. The river being a Q, Makes it easier for the guy to shove all in. And take the hand on a bluff....As Hero would not be chip stack committed to call...

@@WizzRacing Ofcourse that’s the prb. But you have to decide what is the villian more likely to have here . A missed flush draw or weak jack . He is more likely to have missed flushes. Since hero also has a jack makes it less likely villian also has a jack. You are anyway not getting value from missed flush anyway. But this play works better if hero has position over villian. Let’s say villian checks to hero at the river now when hero bets for thin value it makes more sense.

@@rocky2324rocky I get that.. My thought was he was betting on the guy having a J..But his A kicker was his out..So he had to assume that was the case on his bet hoping for a call... The River card changes that...As now he could have an AK, AQ Q-10.. Which if he was on a flush draw. He had more outs.. I didn't hear how many were at the table. So I have no idea how many cards was dealt. I doubt that many players hand those hands and folded... Why It pays to watch the players. Even when you're not playing. You get an idea of what their range is. How they bet with them. Why sometimes I will pay to see what they had. Depending on chip stacks...

I agree, but ONLY if you have seen your opponent try to steal whenever he senses weakness. I do think a really good villain will not call 3 streets with less than AJ unless hero has shown a capacity to fire many bullets as bluffs.

In this scenario the stacks might be too shallow. From villain's perspective, even if we are going thin with a jack, we might just call getting 6 to 1. Also, if villain thinks we either have a very strong hand (overpair plus) or a bluff, then there is no sense in raising because presumably we aren't folding any value hands and will fold every bluff, so just calling risks less against our strong hands.

As the caller said, we think villain is gonna play extremely straight forward vs our bet (possibly only shoving for value), and at the same time check back all his Jx and busted draws vs our check. So bet/fold would make the most sense given these assumptions.

I agree. You get put in a tough spot if they reraise all in and that is actually not an auto fold because some players will bluff off busted hearts or weaker hands. Also, you can check call against a bluff but that being said it was a good thin value bet from the results. Also with the Q coming on board I'd say it's harder for a villain to pay off a middling pair with now 2 overs.

@@calinator51 In order for there to be a serious concern about villain bluff jamming busted draws, he would have to have perceived fold equity. When hero only leaves himself about $300 behind and he would only need to be right about 20% of the time to call a shove, villain isn’t going to assume he’s gonna be able to bluff hero off his hand that often.

Players don’t bluff raise rivers often enough at this level to deter thin value bets.

@calinator51 I think the point is that most villains don't bluff raise river enough. If you know that your opponent can bluff here then it would be a difficult spot

Limit holdem can be tough too, but yeah, a lot of players there are just bad.

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@@tehbombglides I can see from your 19 subscribers that you're very good at what you do. I'm not going to river with J9 with how the betting situation was going from the beginning.

I'd personally fold Jh9h because (a) no straight draws missed other than 54 and (b) I'm blocking the FD if I'm holding Jh9h. I'm a nit though so could be wrong.

@@neilquinn Usually (not always) when you hero call (against a good player) you actually want the suit that blocks the missed flush because villain isn't supposed to use missed flush draws as bluffs, as they block folds. If you're playing against a rec who doesn't know he's not supposed to bluff missed flushes, it could be the opposite though (hearts would be bad)

@@billmoran6 Interesting and makes sense with good players. Player tendencies will matter a lot too - in live a lot of players are just more scared to bluff and will give up, esp if they weren't the one firing on flop and turn.

And that’s why you suck at poker and get invited to all the games lol

Whatever you say pro.

Pressed translate to English and your comment said “for the something” (see original - translated by Google) good job google

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