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Calling Traxxas out because nobody else does! 

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The Traxxas Bandit VXL Boasts speeds of 'Beyond 70mph'. In this video we investigate this claim, and try to hit 70mph+. Who wants to see me try the same with the NEW '100mph' Traxxas XO-1
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@TheRCBuildersPost
@TheRCBuildersPost 2 года назад
Absolutely justified in calling them out. Don't put something on the box if you don't even have the parts to provide the customer with said claims lol
@fstrthnu373
@fstrthnu373 2 года назад
Lol yeah 20 dollars in a 72 spur and a 41 pinion. It will go 85mph. Mine did with everything else stock with weight on the front. Fastest car for the money by far.
@TheActionBastard
@TheActionBastard 2 года назад
That asterisk trick is underhanded as hell and designed to manipulate... as a result regardless of how good that car might be I won't spend my money with Traxxas. Don't put a lie on the box and then charge me a premium price.
@policopaul7961
@policopaul7961 2 года назад
You think they care?
@TheActionBastard
@TheActionBastard 2 года назад
​@@policopaul7961 Yes and no. Here's a quickie... who cares if they care? I wont have spent money on their trashy advertising scam. Instead, I will have spent a bit less and have a vehicle arguably as capable. You, of course, are free to buy Traxxas garbage and forgive them for their underhanded nonsense. Their bank account thanks you.
@policopaul7961
@policopaul7961 2 года назад
@@TheActionBastard well i bought a trx4-sport and that thing its undistructible
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV 2 года назад
yeah its a bit naughty claiming those speeds, but arrma do it too, and worse are some of the banggoods, where even a gear change wont make them go the claimed speed.
@tysemilicia3931
@tysemilicia3931 2 года назад
Yep it’s very misleading for newbies
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
The only Arrma I’ve had so far that’s not hit it’s box speed is my Big Rock. Tyres balloon to much. My infraction hit 92mph out the box with the speed pinion. 12 mph over the box👌
@Lord_Pistachio_Nut
@Lord_Pistachio_Nut 2 года назад
Arrma at least offers a speed pinion in most of their RTR trucks though, and they're transparent enough to tell you their branded parts are STOCK and aftermarket manufactures are the Hopup parts lol. Traxxas angers me because they sell beginner level stuff for above pro level prices
@tylerseabook9423
@tylerseabook9423 2 года назад
Arrma definitely does what the box claims
@Lord_Pistachio_Nut
@Lord_Pistachio_Nut 2 года назад
@@tylerseabook9423 not always lol. They embellish too. Not nearly as bad or as often as Traxxas does but they do too. Kyosho is one of the only brands I've ever seen - in person or reviews - that is consistently close. So much so that they'll claim oddly specific numbers like "53kph" or similar 🤣
@johncampbell4747
@johncampbell4747 2 года назад
Top man Phil. Call those big boys out. These "toys" are not cheap and in no other hobby would any manufacturer get away with misrepresentation - Good on you mate. REspect.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Cheers John... someones got to do it lol.
@richsonner1930
@richsonner1930 2 года назад
Buble pack gmrs radios on package up to 36 mile range. Actually in typical conditions 1-3 mile. If you were in a hot air balloon and had good conditions you might get 36 miles .
@Djkommode
@Djkommode 2 года назад
Bandits are fairly cheap
@thegrandnil764
@thegrandnil764 2 года назад
I don't know, supporting the aftermarket is sick and something you never see in any other industry.
@kickboxs77
@kickboxs77 2 года назад
Have you ever tried building a Honda GX200 for racing? Most of the manufacturers can’t even give you important specs on the parts they do sell. “This head is shaved .040 inches” “what’s the volume?” “We don’t know”
@notlrachtron
@notlrachtron 2 года назад
Typical sales pitch …that’s why we need people like you telling it how it is …..honestly 👍
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
😎👍
@theminiatureconstructionco4556
@theminiatureconstructionco4556 2 года назад
I would love to know how many extra units were sold as opposed to how many disgruntled customers they had? 👍
@rust1eronblitzrussia542
@rust1eronblitzrussia542 2 года назад
You need a 33 tooth pinion because of the tire size. You dont know enough to insult the best RC car brand. Your only "calling them out" because Arrma copied the Revo.
@JohnJaggerJack
@JohnJaggerJack 2 года назад
there is difference between a sales pitch and false advertisement.
@theminiatureconstructionco4556
@theminiatureconstructionco4556 2 года назад
@@JohnJaggerJack unfortunately I think we have come to expect and dismiss the imaginative performance claims. It's like new car mpg figures, where the car is tested under ideal lab conditions. I have heard (wether it's true or not) that some car manufacturers have been known to remove the interior to reduce weight and therefore make the fuel go further! I must admit though it did eventually do the 70mph 'stock' with correct gearing and faffing about. I've tested RC's that had to be converted to brushless and run on 3S before they would get close! 😄😄
@marcbusby3625
@marcbusby3625 2 года назад
Hey tomley i completely agree with you, was just discussing with the missus that if traxxas themselves dont make the pinion nessicary they shouldn't be able to put it on the box. Its the same as saying my car can do 300kph......with a big ass turbo, a tailwind and 30 thousand odd dollars of other mods.
@yorkrojas1452
@yorkrojas1452 2 года назад
Exactly!!
@facebag666
@facebag666 2 года назад
like saying the base model v6 challenger has 900+* HP
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 года назад
It’s just a stupid 5-10$ part. Y’all a bunch of whiny nerds
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
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@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 2 года назад
This is what's known as a catch 22.....and very similar to an issue going on with performance cars like McLaren: they advertise that their vehicles are track monster hyper cars but void the warranty if you take it on the track. This also reminds me of a die grinder kit I bought from a local chain called Princess Auto. (kind of like harbour freight in the US). I got it home, wore out one of the stones, went back a week later to get another: we don't sell them. I looked around and no one sold that size because the shaft was an oddball size. I went home, got the grinder, went back to the store: I'd like to return this. Them: opening up the kit, you've used it and worn out one of the stones, we can't resell this. Me: ok, sell me a replacement stone then. Them: we don't sell them Me: NO one sells them Them: well we can't return this as it's used Me: (pulling a karen) Get me the store manager Manager: we can't return this, it's used Me: Sell me another stone Manager: we don't sell them Me: NO one sells them Manager: and? Me: you sold me a power tool that is single use and disposable. Did you advertise this on the box? Manager: It's not single use, you can use it over and over Me: only until you wear out the stone. I want to exchange it for one that you DO sell replacement stones for. They eventually exchanged it for me and I noticed a month later they no longer sold that model.
@kaden68
@kaden68 2 года назад
yea thats really just a way to get you to buy it if i seen a rc that says 70 mph i would instantly have my eyes on it u know and the fact that they don't even make the pinion u need to hit that 70mph, like what if these aftermarket companies stop making it then your screwed lol
@Asfaroth
@Asfaroth 2 года назад
Funfacts : When you read the email, you sound like Maurice Moss from IT Crowd ^^
@GhostRyderFPV
@GhostRyderFPV 2 года назад
Greetings from inside the _"Salty Lil Beach"_ Medium T-Shirt... These... will likely be... My last breaths... ... So... small... why... Phil... Why?.... ded
@robhotson1882
@robhotson1882 2 года назад
I'm waiting for baseball hats then I'm in unfortunately I'm a Jacamo buyer so clothing is out :-(
@BASHERSKINZ
@BASHERSKINZ 2 года назад
Only been in the hobby about 6 weeks and already noticed how bad RC companies are for this stuff, glad someone is actually calling them out! Disappointed with Traxxas' replies
@mikeluther60
@mikeluther60 Год назад
Why do you think there are all of these RU-vid videos on RC? People don’t want to do the hobby for themselves! All they wanna do is open the box and play with the car. They don’t wanna learn anything about it, they don’t want to learn how to tune it and certainly don’t wanna have to fix it or take the responsibility when they break it. I see a lot of users and parents coming to the hobby store complaining that there’s a part broken looking for a free repair versus teaching their kid some initiative or by learning how to fix it themselves.
@BobSmith-cb5xr
@BobSmith-cb5xr Год назад
The bandit vxl comes with the 70mph pinion gear. I'm not understanding peoples confusion
@extec101
@extec101 Год назад
@@mikeluther60 seen that alot at my local hobby shop that parents come in with broken car with tyres dangling from it and ask if its suposed to brake easy like that when it ran in to a tree at full speed. 🤣
@quantumrobingaming6667
@quantumrobingaming6667 2 года назад
Based on traxxas logic you could sell any rc car as 200+mph* with the *being "with extensive modifications and part replacements"
@cumminsfj4586
@cumminsfj4586 2 года назад
You hit the nail on the head there. Suppose crawlers can be advertised as 100mph now too
@fstrthnu373
@fstrthnu373 2 года назад
A gear only change is not that extensive. They will go way faster than 70 with just gears.
@riothero313
@riothero313 2 года назад
Yeah just put it in the passenger seat of a Veyron.
@sergioh2015
@sergioh2015 2 года назад
@@fstrthnu373 well you don't usually want to buy parts straight out the box, sometimes you don't even want to mess with it. While I agree its extensive, I feel it would be way less of problem if they advertised lower mph, with the optional mph next to it or something, also doing this is a lot less extensive than changing a gear. But you know, traxxas is right i guess
@brianargo4595
@brianargo4595 2 года назад
@@fstrthnu373 the gear only change didn't get it there, though. That's the point.
@michaelandrew4488
@michaelandrew4488 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to do this - Traxxas should supply you another Bandit VXL, and some spares.💪
@speedgears1236
@speedgears1236 2 года назад
I wonder if Ferrari ever made claims about their cars but then said you need a Volkswagen part. Lol
@SharkysGarageRCandMore
@SharkysGarageRCandMore 2 года назад
Hahaha ! Lol
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Lol
@extec101
@extec101 Год назад
cant eaven put purrari sticker on it eaven if that gaining 300hp.
@goodknight37
@goodknight37 2 года назад
Absolutely justified. I’m pretty sure at this point , manufacturer’s just print any numbers they want on the box.
@DoRC
@DoRC 2 года назад
Not all manufacturers. Arrma vehicles are typically capable of reaching the speeds claimed and they usually come with the hardware required to do it in the box.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes, in my experience Arrma are the best for on the box claims. My Infraction does over 90mph out the box on the speed pinion
@rust1eronblitzrussia542
@rust1eronblitzrussia542 2 года назад
Not true the traxxas cars come with the gears
@DoRC
@DoRC 2 года назад
@@rust1eronblitzrussia542 his video literally shows that not only is the gear not included for this vehicle it's also not available from Traxxas
@rust1eronblitzrussia542
@rust1eronblitzrussia542 2 года назад
@@DoRC then get from another brand
@marcoreviews
@marcoreviews 2 года назад
Bandy did it! They claimed it would be easy and it wasn’t. They might want to change that 70 to 60+ with pinion no spoiler and very likely to destroy your tires and suspension in the process. Man so much fine print was missing on the box 📦.
@michaeldorich4485
@michaeldorich4485 2 года назад
This is a fun and enjoyable video. I am impressed with all the research you did. I like Traxxas and I have had good results from their customer service. You might have fun with them by calling them. On the the phone you get some honest responses. I am sure there are people all over the world who went into hobby shops asking for a Traxxas 33T pinion. Naming your cars is a cool idea. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Thanks mate. I wanted to push it until I hit the 70… I’d have had trouble if I didn’t get it this time lol
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 года назад
@@TomleyRC I did it consistently. Hit 71 repeatedly with a change of a pinion. This is old ass news that’s been done countless times since it’s release loooooong ago
@skybugproductions7527
@skybugproductions7527 2 года назад
It bothers me that the bandit comes with bushings through out and is more expensive then the Arrma vehicles that come with full bearings through out.
@skybugproductions7527
@skybugproductions7527 2 года назад
@@MC-bg7ro entry level
@skybugproductions7527
@skybugproductions7527 2 года назад
@@MC-bg7ro The entry-level Traxxas bandit brushed car comes with bushings and not bearings in 2022. But it is OK, he understood what I was talking about.
@jgrc73
@jgrc73 3 месяца назад
bushings are better for beginners rain and snow
@desmonmargan7499
@desmonmargan7499 2 года назад
Beating this to death. The buggy is sold as a entry level unit. It has for years. Everyone knows it. Any hobby store would advice this and due diligence too. Any noobie to this hobby and any hobby store would never try to sell a 70 mph car to a rookie period. This gives growth to the car and purchase.
@Redd_Beard
@Redd_Beard 2 года назад
Maybe they shouldn't advertise right on the box, then? I agree with your statement but they need to re-think their marketing.
@vanenmar7491
@vanenmar7491 2 года назад
It doesn't matter. The vehicle should be capable of doing whatever is claimed on the box, simple as that.
@v000000000000v
@v000000000000v 2 года назад
>everyone knows it probably not the people who buys this as their first RC which like you said is the target audience of this buggy lol it is not a good image to the people who is new to the hobby to be falsely advertised to
@gregzielinski
@gregzielinski 2 года назад
Good for you for doing this. If they offer the part # for the pinion and reduce it to 60mph+, then it would be fair.
@nemesis8664
@nemesis8664 2 года назад
The closest speed claims I have found so far are those of Kyosho and curiously, those of Haiboxing. I still don't understand why some companies state something on the box that you can only achieve by strapping your car to a space shuttle rocket....and praying for the thing to come back in one piece.
@TrueNomadSkies
@TrueNomadSkies 2 года назад
My GP Toys Judge (basically a Xinlehong) only gets maybe 70 percent of the claimed top speed, and the claimed scale of 1/10 is in reality somewhere between 1/14 and 1/18 depending on if you go by length or width. People have gotten to the speed range, but not without entirely gutting the drivetrain. It's like, we get that big numbers are impressive, but when they're known to be complete lies, integrity goes out the window and when Traxxas does it, their claim of being better than others goes out along with it.
@greatplanesman
@greatplanesman 2 года назад
Arrma speed claims are fairly accurate. Every arrma I've tested has achieved the claimed speed within at least 1-2mph (factoring in calibration variables).
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 8 месяцев назад
Duratrax was pretty good with theirs with the Evader series. Too bad Duratrax doesn't make cars anymore.
@backlashD
@backlashD Год назад
That's pretty justified. I'm shocked Traxxas would even recommend something after market since they love to be proprietary.
@88davidw
@88davidw 2 года назад
I definitely think it’s justified. Seems very strange they don’t even offer the 33T pinion. I love your bandit and Rustler videos, so much so I’ve just bought myself a new Bandit.
@pocketrocket6494
@pocketrocket6494 2 года назад
This is like a car advertisement saying, using aftermarket parts our car makes 1000 hp I mean that just doesn’t mean anything
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA Год назад
As someone who has a Traxxas and also plays Warhammer, Traxxas sending you to the aftermarket is actually really cool. Sure, they shouldn't claim the speed if they themselves don't make the part. They are supporting a wider parts ecosystem, though, and one they don't profit from. That's really rare in the hobby space.
@chrisgoblin4857
@chrisgoblin4857 Год назад
GW will litigate you to the Warp if you go anywhere near their IP. Better that Traxxas will happily point you to the aftermarket to get what you need.
@Cynocehali
@Cynocehali 9 месяцев назад
Traxxas and Games Workshop are both awful companies. I quit 40K because of GW. I boycott traxxas always.
@christrumble95
@christrumble95 2 года назад
I gave up trying to get mine to 70, glad you were able to pull it off. I’m in the states and had the same issues with Traxxas customer support not being helpful at all. The Bandit was my 9th Traxxas vehicle but after the bandit, there won’t be a tenth. I still think Traxxas has a place in the hobby. But I feel you only can go as far with them. I have had much better luck with other brands like arrma and losi.
@skitariisoldier7367
@skitariisoldier7367 2 года назад
Good call. You also won't have to deal with Traxxas' stupid proprietary batteries.
@harlyquin
@harlyquin 2 года назад
3:17 Thats not like Traxxas, you would think a Traxxas motor would have some kind of unique splined motor shaft so that you could only use Traxxas pinions rather than telling you to buy after market parts
@ackers5861
@ackers5861 2 года назад
Don't give them any ideas.
@benlewis5469
@benlewis5469 Год назад
thank you! so tired of the "too big to fail" attitude towards consumers. they say anything to sell it
@Logans_RCAdventures
@Logans_RCAdventures 2 года назад
My Redcat Tornado was in much harsher crashes and the shocks were perfectly fine. It's also brushless for 260 Usd. That is a steal
@ThePower1037
@ThePower1037 2 года назад
I got the Shockwave from them, same buggy but nitro... and it came with a VX.18 engine brand new!!! Also the only thing that has broken is the string starter, which is very typical, especially considering that amount of bashing I have done. All in all, for 200 odd dollars it's up there on the bang for buck!
@adamwicked7854
@adamwicked7854 2 года назад
I have an exceed an exceed rc sunfire it’s like the same as the tornado but 100 dollars less
@mildtowildrc7343
@mildtowildrc7343 2 года назад
😂Yep Traxxas only goes to a 31 tooth,great call out and never noticed it after all these years of RC👍
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 2 года назад
Fun vid. Well done getting it to 70mph. I think I've already mentioned it, but I put one of those VXL systems in a Hornet. It was interesting, but not at all practical long term.
@ryand4786
@ryand4786 6 месяцев назад
Good for you Phil . I’d like to see them take it one step further and include high speed pinion with each R/C they sell. It’s not too much to ask, costs them virtually nothing to add, and will improve customer satisfaction.
@GhostRyderFPV
@GhostRyderFPV 2 года назад
It's like the *"K"* has it's own spotlight moment when Phil pronounces *"DicK"* LOL
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Hahahahaha
@GettingthruLife
@GettingthruLife 9 месяцев назад
Fair to bring this up as you are their consumer. I recently bought the Team Associated Pro4 SC10. Ran it on hard packed sand surface and the rear wheels filled up with so much sand that it made their General Tires looking brand tire unusable. I contacted Team associated and their customer service told me their Pro4 SC10 is not designed/made to be run in sand.
@roblowrie1969
@roblowrie1969 2 года назад
It must have been the weight saving, running the car upside down scraping all those bits off, that gave you those few extra mph?!! 😉 Seriously, all these claims from what appears to be the vast majority of manufacturers is taking the micky out of all us customers!! And what Traxxas said for this is just astounding!! Words failed me with their reply to the first email is just nuts!! 🤷🏻‍♂️ Imagine Marty McFly trying to get to 88mph, only to have a note on the dash, to say that you've got to buy the MrFusion unit, which they don't make, and you've got to go to the future to buy, but you can't, because you can't get to 88mph......!! 😆
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 2 года назад
lol ZING...that was epic "wearing off bits of the body made it lighter" You must work in sales! hahahha Woman: I bought your bicycle to lose weight and the wheel fell off, I lost my leg in the accident Sales: well, you lost weight dint cha? lol
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Hahaha
@dexterbeattie7884
@dexterbeattie7884 2 года назад
Awesome!! Glad you reached 70 stock.. my rustler vxl is currently on the bench waiting for a slipper clutch. Love that you Arrma motor in a traxxas. I once put together triumph chopper with a Honda motor. I miss riding it.
@Rex_Stuph
@Rex_Stuph 2 года назад
With that logic my 1984 Grasshopper can do 55 mph out of the box. With a Castle 6900kv combo.
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 2 года назад
and a different frame, wheels, tires, suspension......lol......
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes lol
@dylanwhite6539
@dylanwhite6539 2 месяца назад
I mean, everyone should know that a 2wd buggy needs a wheelie bar and weight will help tremendously. ARRMA did the exact same thing with their raider blx. They advertised like 60+, maybe 70+, but it required a spur, pinion, lead weight, wheelie bar, diff fluid, thicker shock fluid, and different tires. And with all that work they said to only make one pass and then allow the electronics to recover.
@MatrixRC
@MatrixRC 2 года назад
Same ordeal I experienced with my Traxxas XO-1. Tires are definitely the problematic area for what use to be the fastest RC box stock. But you need to have belted tires such as GRP's or Foam tires to easily achieved advertised 💯+mph. And that's no weight either. I have researched it and no one can provide proof of stock 💯+mph. I'm sure it's capable for I got 96mph my first run but the tires balloon like crazy after it. Glue did not separate from rim I think the belt broke inside the tire and now they balloon. Well I glad to see you show the proof. The audacity to say we don't advertised 70+mph stock. Thanks for 🙏🏾 sharing. And I named my XO-1 the Ex because that's exactly what it is.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
I’d love to get an XO-1 and do a similar video to this, but the cost is way to much for me
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV 2 года назад
my stock xo1 did 101mph
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
@@KevinTalbotTV I thought it was 98mph… when you hit Martin? (Edit: Just checked.. 98mph Mr Talbot , your ‘101mph’ thumbnail even caught you out 🙃)
@combustionpropulsion4883
@combustionpropulsion4883 2 года назад
The Xo-1 tires are belted, so that's your first mistake. Traxxas has also proven to hit 100+ with completely stock Xo-1s in the past, in fact, I have hit 102 on my personal Xo-1 (box stock). So it's definitely possible.
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV 2 года назад
@@TomleyRC it did 101, maybe not on cam
@xMario209
@xMario209 7 месяцев назад
We need more of these videos. I recently purchased a Traxxas Raptor R since it advertises reliability and durability. ESC fried in the 2nd use. Hobbyshop was awesome and replaced it. The 2nd NEW ESC failed 2 days later. The button got stuck on and I could not operate. Hobbyshop replaced again, and I finally got one that worked! 2 weeks later, the drivetrain failed. The motor needs to be rebuilt, and the spur gear is destroyed. The best part about all this? It failed on my Birthday, trying to play with my dog at a dog park, with throttle limited (Don't need much speed playing with a Corgi). I got this truck to play with my dog at parks to replace my rustler since the wheels do not extend out (fear of paws getting mangled up). Apparently it is extremely durable to bash, but is not built to play with a Corgi. Zipping across an empty grass field and parking lot with limited throttle is literally all of its use. My Rustlers steering servo had to be replaced after a month. My TRX4 crawler motor burned out right away as well. The level of quality control is abysmal, especially for the price. Looking back, I really wish I spent my $2k worth of toys to Axial/Arma over Traxxas......Why advertise durability?????
@Francois_L_7933
@Francois_L_7933 2 года назад
It would be really good if at least they gave the full recipe for the speed. Like put foam tires on the back, remove the wing, drop the suspension as far as it will go, lock the rear shocks and change the pinion gear... Maybe add a way to move the rear wing to the front.
@extec101
@extec101 Год назад
but then it wont be box stock...
@DixiesNewSong
@DixiesNewSong Год назад
I got mine to do 68 out of the box bone stock. You just have to be really gentle on the throttle and make sure that you use a liberal amount of tire glue on the rear wheels. The rating is a bit silly tho because you have to be an extremely good driver to attain the speed. If they would just change the number to something like 55+ mph or something more useable lol.
@FormulaZR
@FormulaZR 2 года назад
The "beyond" is when you get tired of dealing with parts breaking and throw it out of an airplane. Goes much faster then. Once.
@aaroncasey3591
@aaroncasey3591 2 года назад
I work in hobby shops. I ALWAYS point this stuff out to customers especially with Traxxas. Needlees to say it doesn't stop me from selling the crap out of them. (I still sell more arrma atm) I've even made a mention to this when the Traxxas team of reps comes up each year to ask about improvements. Let's just say those guys really don't help much. I've been giving these guys direct feedback for years but they are so slow to change a damn thing. Still own a bunch of them but they need to have the speed gears included. PERIOD
@mikeupton5406
@mikeupton5406 2 года назад
Yes as a former hobby shop employee in several shops through the years, (side job while working in the airlines) I saw and heard things that were less than stirling. After seeing a particular incident I decided for my own R/C consumerism I would be better served to not drink the kool-aide. That was quite a few years ago and I actually can say I do not regret it
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 года назад
When did it stop being included? Mine from 2007 came with the top speed pinion in the box. Hit over 70 many times. This video along with others I’ve seen on similar topics shows it’s a slow content era for rc
@mattgraham4025
@mattgraham4025 2 года назад
Absolutely justified. Traxxas should supply the components for advertised speed rating. How can they make claims that are not backed by there own products.
@stingray8775
@stingray8775 2 года назад
My bandit has drag slicks, long drag wheelie bar and the proline pinto body. With 120c battery and the 33t pinion best I can get is 73 mph. It has done it constantly in multiple locations. So I believe that is genuinely it's top speed.
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe 2 года назад
After some modifying, sure.
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 года назад
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe I hit 71 consistently 15+ years ago when the brushless system first came out. What are y’all talking about? It came with a top speed pinion too at the time. Stock tires, stock everything. Just a turn of a few hex screws in 2007 and this thing flew. Very unstable at those speed but it did it! Y’all a bunch of whiny ass nerds
@dstjamesrc6395
@dstjamesrc6395 2 года назад
Was happy to see that finally hit 70mph. The teal, pink color looks so good.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes, I really wanted to hit 70
@benbishop1864
@benbishop1864 2 года назад
The hpi firestorm flux was another one except it claimed 77mph with the optional stuff Difference is it came with that stuff a larger pinion a smaller spur a wheelie bar and a different battery holder which could hold a bigger battery 77mph was possible but was a fight to keep the tyres from ballooning so much they would rip off You could get some Yokohama tyres for the rims which had a tread design that you could run fishing wire through
@ls1_cammeroh
@ls1_cammeroh 2 года назад
The firestorm was sick one of my favorite stadium trucks
@ReactionRC
@ReactionRC Год назад
Thank you!! I'm sick of the false advertising about traxxass out of the box speeds!! Call em out!!!!
@KevinATJumpWorks
@KevinATJumpWorks 2 года назад
Removing that wing was a good call - It just adds additional drag, which might create downforce for corners, but in this application, it was clearly not needed.
@xJesseJames33x
@xJesseJames33x 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad you called them out ! Claim it and don’t even sell the part needed lol. There support is not good I called and asked about a low voltage lipo I had that the Traxxas charger wouldn’t charge. They told me there was nothing I could do and I could send the battery back to them and get a new battery half price. I did some research found a cheap aftermarket charger found a way to get power and batteries now work. They don’t give a f they just want money
@shaunpugh3287
@shaunpugh3287 2 года назад
Great video, and you are absolutely right to call them out on this. 70mph should be easily achievable just by adding the recommended pinion if the car is sold as being able to do '70mph+', it shouldn't be something you did as a one off in almost laboratory conditions and with damage to the car. Unfortunately looks like 70mph would be unachievable for most - looks like we should be asking Traxxas to show their video of it doing this and for them to repeat it over and over to back up their claim. Traxxas, time to put your big boy pants on and show us all how its done ....
@bcochener
@bcochener 7 месяцев назад
Hell, you can put anything on the box then! “Reaches speeds of 200mph with optional imagination”
@tobydyes
@tobydyes 2 года назад
Pro-Line shocks just for the rear or get the sharks that go on the drag slash I believe they're a millimeter thicker shock shaft
@wyvern4588
@wyvern4588 22 дня назад
My first RTR was an original bandit in grey/orange, it had a resistor and diode speed controller, meaning it used a servo to move a potentiometer that resisted current to control speed- it got boiling hot. Many good times with it, but unfortunately it was the least durable R/C I've ever owned, right next to the Duratrax Nitro Evader ST-. After working for a privately owned hobby shop for a couple years, I will never suggest anyone to buy Traxxas products- unfortunately they haven't changed much since the 90's and are still using high wear and weak components, they, as a business, are also very predatory, using patents to stop other manufacturers from innovating and suing companies that are on their last leg. I'd only recommend them if you have a lot of money and you happen to have a local hobby shop that only carries Traxxas stuff.
@lo2713
@lo2713 2 года назад
Must have been an awkward day when traxxas had to ring schumacher for parts 😂
@MannyGunzz
@MannyGunzz 2 года назад
Probably not, everything made in China , all the rcs china made just different company...
@klasjonsson297
@klasjonsson297 2 года назад
They definitely did not ring HPI Racing for parts..or 33p pinion
@rcpete7055
@rcpete7055 2 года назад
TRAXXAS Are Quick Enough to jump on anyone who talks negatively about them on RU-vid with their legal team.. Even if you mention their name in a video where their product in not featured.. Just ask the RC Saylors how much grief they had from Traxxas and nearly losing their channel.. Well Justified Phil👍 Cannot believe they don't even make the 33t pinion they recommend on the box?? 😊 👍
@roberttierney9284
@roberttierney9284 2 года назад
As Traxxas is in many cases someone's first hobby grade RC car, I agree with you. Shame on you Traxxas.
@Captain_Tool_Vicarious
@Captain_Tool_Vicarious 7 месяцев назад
I'm happy someone's being honest about Traxxas in general!! They have always had good products,... But as of the past China boom, they've just been slacking. Wanting China products to back off, even sueing certain companies in attempt to slow them, instead of Traxxas putting that money into they're products and upgrades along with the customer support! They need to invest in themselves again, and show the rest of the world just how good Traxxas could still be!! (sorry for the rant, has built up for about 10 years...)
@sutton4791
@sutton4791 2 года назад
Simply putting 70mph on the front is enough for me to want to call them out. I only just learned about that asterisk next to certain claims on products last year, and I'm 31. I genuinely don't think any of my family know what it means. Traxxas purposely made theirs very tiny, but just big enough to prevent lawsuits. It's too easy for companies to manipulate people nowadays.
@ohhi5237
@ohhi5237 8 месяцев назад
man i think i was 5 when i learned about *. i felt like buzz lightyear learning hes just a toy and cannot actually fly
@doityourselfrcdrew6807
@doityourselfrcdrew6807 9 месяцев назад
Glad someone finally called them out! Too many RC Volgs are Traxxas lovers and never really call them on their claims!
@bimmarvinlim3804
@bimmarvinlim3804 Год назад
I absolutely agree with you Phil. Traxxas should sort this bulls$%* or replace that 70mph claim with 70km/h on that box
@SharkysGarageRCandMore
@SharkysGarageRCandMore 2 года назад
Great Video, and great insight into what it takes. Been waiting for this since i saw the post on Bashers and Crashers. Thankyou for the educational work that you do, keep up the great work !
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Cheers mate
@kevingilroy
@kevingilroy 2 года назад
Glad to see cooler weather for her Majesty's best. It's been oddly cooler here. But swampy. For awhile people in London were experiencing the same weather as Arizona at the time. 106 today. But it normally is 116.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes, got up to 107 here in Lincoln. Hottest in the country. Cooled down now, although I’m in the UAE at the mo… it’s a pleasant 110-113oF 😅
@Godsbest777
@Godsbest777 2 года назад
Totally justified .....traxxas has been getting away with weird stuff for years now...Thank you for calling them out. They sell a ton of parts but dont sell someone on a certain performance and promote a optional mysterious aftermarket part from another company
@tm5123
@tm5123 2 года назад
To be fair, its it a more or less standar 48 pitch pinion, that you can get anywhere, as lots of racecars run 48p pinions. Obviously its silly they dont have their own, but as long as its not a super rare pinion, its not really a biggy. Takes a bit of shine out of the "plug and play" type RCing that Traxxas promotes-
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yeah… they should at least sell the pinion!
@jwilley1991
@jwilley1991 2 года назад
I think you’ve made a fair point. However anyone who really cares to push this car to 70+ probably has no issue with buying a pinion gear from someone other than Traxxas since they overprice their accessories anyway.
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 2 года назад
New Traxxas Bandit VXXL+ ! It can do 100+ mph!!* * - with aftermarket 8S battery pack, motor, ESC, CNC gearbox housing, nitrided Unobtanium gearset, ceramic bearing set, carbon fibre chassis, low-drag aerodynamic body......
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Hahaha
@jeffparryncc1701
@jeffparryncc1701 2 года назад
Totally justified. But Traxxas anything is banned in our house...
@sambagogo777
@sambagogo777 2 года назад
Dacia Sandero for sale. Does 160+mph. * * Ferrari engine sold separately
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Hahahaha
@wordreet
@wordreet 2 года назад
Teehee, great fun, but I would have taken the front bumper off as well as the wing, lowered it to the max. And I wouldn't have tried it anyway, it's a buggy, it's for off road, ya know? The claims on the box are so it sells to little kids, and idiot big kids! But well done for getting that, apparent, on your channel, world record! 🏆
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes, ‘Worlds Fastest Stock Bandit’ 😅
@wordreet
@wordreet 2 года назад
@@TomleyRC Hehe, that sounds like a criminal from the financial world!
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
@@wordreet 🤣
@KurtsRCs
@KurtsRCs 2 года назад
you got it finally, Traxxas does say you need a 33T pinion to go 70mph sooo technically you need to mod the cat to go 70mph, that is how they get away with that, But i think that is wrong of them.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yeah… sketchy, but I’m also glad I got it 👌
@beyondRC
@beyondRC 2 года назад
Haha good old traxxas! Do like their stuff but I see why so many people are against them 🤷
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Yes lol
@8180634
@8180634 2 года назад
I am a Traxxas fan. Compared to the RC toys we had back in the 80's, even the lowest cost Slash is a super durable blast to play with. Plus easy to fix and parts are everywhere and reasonably priced, though getting more expensive post-pandemic. We bought 4 of them to race in the back yard with the kids, friends and family and it has been a lot of fun to be a kid again. That said, the big pinion for this thing was readily available and the car did do 70 with the suggested pinion, so it was a stretch but not a false claim. I bet with some complete OCD level attention to the gearbox, bearings, alignment and setup, you could have seen 71, satisfying the "+" on the box. ;)
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Aero was the problem. I expect it would do 75+ if it was set up correctly. Next plan for this is 100 mph... so I'll have to work my magic with keeping it on the ground
@shaunsmith8494
@shaunsmith8494 2 года назад
That 70mph+ claim is irrelevant if they don’t provide the parts to do so. Where does it stop? May as well say 100mph+ with optional motor, esc etc provided by others.
@eprc7585
@eprc7585 2 года назад
A lot of fuss about this but ultimately it does do it and yet every bangood special you have that are literally miles off their claims everytime not a problem? 🤔
@27Zangle
@27Zangle Год назад
I bought Stampede VXL 2WD back in 2015 and had no issues reaching the speed claimed on the box with the right gearing. I was actually over the speed that was claimed. Perhaps, I was just lucky with a strong motor? Maybe! In my opinion heat kills speed so much and in my home location (have since moved for my wife's medical needs), the summer high temps was 18c or less most days, making it easy to keep the motor cool and push everything to the limits over and over.
@AddictRC
@AddictRC 2 года назад
First
@roblow8126
@roblow8126 2 года назад
Totally justified. They can't just throw it out that "someone" will make what they say you need in the hope that it will happen
@TheZenChii
@TheZenChii 2 года назад
100% justified. Words have meaning. Say what you mean, mean what you say. Good on ya.
@marklinehan6000
@marklinehan6000 9 месяцев назад
I agree, the wording on the box is misleading. You piqued my interest in Traxxas buggies when I viewed another of your videos comparing a Traxxas Bandit with a Tamiya XLB rising fighter - up until then I was firmly in the retro Tamiya camp! I think the Bandit VXL looks fantastic, but very disappointed with the shocks - so much so, I would avoid buying or swap them out with something more robust. Great video Phil…
@jefflynch9559
@jefflynch9559 2 года назад
I like the fact you called them out. Try belted tires as well.
@garrettouellette3882
@garrettouellette3882 8 месяцев назад
Hardly anybody calls our Traxxas because West facia they’re pretty much the best you pay a little bit more but you get what you pay for. I literally jump my max over my house onto my roof for two years now things are still running strong. It’s a champ. Haven’t touched it once.
@oldeschoolrcukold5141
@oldeschoolrcukold5141 2 года назад
I noticed that lowering the shock position on that style of car stiffens it so the front raises easier. Your points in this video is the reason I don’t buy traxass. Notice they are fans of false claims and all is not as it seems. Just my opinion of course. Loads of fun.
@oldeschoolrcukold5141
@oldeschoolrcukold5141 2 года назад
No it because of your comments Phil I just happen to share your option lol
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
😅👍
@LeleganceCoral
@LeleganceCoral 2 года назад
thank you so much about this video, my friend was convinced he wanted this car and this is the video i have been waiting for! He chose the typhon 6s instead. Great video as always, you earned my subscription!
@ackers5861
@ackers5861 2 года назад
A lot companies have been using the '+' on their advertised speeds for as long as I can remember. It's a misleading practice for sure but definitely not a Traxxas-only thing. I think it's otherwise going to be the same case with the XO-1 where it 'can' do the claimed 100+mph in the real world, but will require risky runs and very ideal conditions to achieve that. Will be interesting to see the supposed stability improvements on the new version coming into effect for smoother 100mph runs.
@TrueNomadSkies
@TrueNomadSkies 2 года назад
Very justified. One of the whole selling point of Traxxas stuff is supposedly their part support and accurate stat claims. Neither of those are present here. I would actually question whether or not that optional gearing is even good for this particular rc, as why would they not include it stock or want to sell their own upgrade part?
@epicrc2084
@epicrc2084 2 года назад
Thanks for such a broad variety of RC videos! It never gets boring!
@stevesky7043
@stevesky7043 4 месяца назад
100% agree...did some digging and found that the VXL doesn't come with bearings! Thought that was interesting....
@leogoughmtbs
@leogoughmtbs 2 года назад
You are completely justified, why say it can do it when they don't make the part, let alone provide it.
@Average_Bruh
@Average_Bruh 2 года назад
It is. It maybe hot, but at least it is dry and clear. I don't know why, but I'm not fond of the Traxxas brand. I like the TRX4 and 6, but that's it. Can't wait to see the EX07 update.
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
I have the new 1/7 ZD Monster truck coming 👌
@Average_Bruh
@Average_Bruh 2 года назад
@@TomleyRC i didn't even know that have a new Monster truck. Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to that video.
@roadragerc9781
@roadragerc9781 2 года назад
I took A-arms and tires from a Rustler and helped stop the shocks bending and helps prevent the crashing at high speeds also find helps hold the front end down !! And helped it become such a better Bashers !
@dadboddamien
@dadboddamien 2 года назад
My neighbor has a bandit and a rustler that are each a couple of years old... When I ran circles around him with my 3s Arrma big rock he went out and joined the Arrma Army and I haven't seen him driving either of his Traxxas models since
@jspence3798
@jspence3798 2 года назад
I name all my cars. My bandit is called snowball my rusty is called joker
@TomleyRC
@TomleyRC 2 года назад
Nice haha
@druscanam
@druscanam 2 года назад
That is totally fair enough for you to call them out in their claims. To claim their products meets a very specific performance number with an optional part that they don't sell or manufacture. Also I bet if you chewed the spur gear they would probably claim its because you didn't use the stock pinion. Also yes I'd agree that Traxxas make some good products and the 2WD traxxas platform is especially good although I really dislike the company from an ethical standpoint. Also as for RC bashers and crashers I left that group a while ago, unfortunately there are too many a-holes on there who ruin it for everyone else and I decided my life would be better without it. Congrats on getting 70mph although in order to do it you needed an aftermaket part which traxxas do not offer so it's still false advertising on Traxxas' part.
@Just_Another_Ghost4-2
@Just_Another_Ghost4-2 2 года назад
Arrma vorteks: Beauty Losi Baja Rey: The beast TT02 Drift spec: Tommy SG 1603: Dill
@firesmurfuk
@firesmurfuk 2 года назад
Says the man who puts Arrma parts in his other Traxxas?
@ChrisHarmon1
@ChrisHarmon1 Год назад
Cant believe you messaged them after getting 67mph on first attempt. I figured with wind at your back and long enough for gps to register it would do that last 3 mph. I would be more pissed about the shock shafts bending so easily.
@jimbolaya65
@jimbolaya65 2 года назад
Nice work! I’m new to the world of RC recently and for some odd reason decided to start naming cars straight away. So far it’s just Boudreaux (Big Rock 3S BLX) and Thibodeaux (Axial scx24) Looking forward to adding to the collection and coming up with more funky fun names for them!😝😝
@extec101
@extec101 Год назад
named my slash "fatty" after loading it down with 80g of tyre weights to lower the center of gravity eaven more then the LCG chassie did.
@WaluigiStadium
@WaluigiStadium Год назад
Same problem with the Hoss... They recommend a 23t pinion and they don't make it. But in that case the worst thing is that i can't find it aftermarket neither. I bought an aftermarket 21t because it is the biggest i found and the biggest they make is only a 20t. I like Traxxas and my hobby grade models are all Traxxas but this is a really bad thing and you are right. I think they should provide them in the box instead of make you go for aftermarket parts.
@GholpianArmyRCchannel
@GholpianArmyRCchannel 9 месяцев назад
Great video, advertised speeds are usually very tough to get. I did get 76mph out of my old bandit almost stock. Aftermarket gearing and wheels. 4tec has the same problem, nearly impossible to get 70 stock
@NYangryguy
@NYangryguy 2 года назад
On my 100mph rustler I melted down a bunch of lead and formed it to fit between the front shock tower coated it in resin. That will keep the front down. You want to push past 70 I would maybe add a gyro as well for better stability.
@ericpohlman5131
@ericpohlman5131 2 года назад
Why does the speed of the vehicle help sell it more than it's durability?
@alphawlff
@alphawlff 2 года назад
Because most are only interested in speed.
@tobbes3566
@tobbes3566 2 года назад
I loved seeing someone actually question what's on the bloody box, great video.
@JA-uz7se
@JA-uz7se 2 года назад
When I bought my rustler they actually made the pinion too. Maybe now they have stopped and need the manual updated to state 3rd party upgrade. Solves the problem.
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