Calth or Prospero? - Getting Started in Horus Heresy 

Just started 30k. I'm playing iron warriors and my friend is playing Ultramarines. We are loving it and want these box sets to return

Quick note for people, I will be doing a video quite soon that will focus on the books, which ones you will need for what factions and why. Seems kinda important.... ~Macca

Calth wins BTW.

I really don't get the hate for mah boy Arhiman, I have almost no interest in 30k and yet I bough this guy multiple times from people getting rid of the HQ of the box just to paint him. I love his pose so much I'm turning one into a full blown Malignant Plaguecaster! A really commanding and iconic pose. A hell to convert, as is often the case with monopose plastics.

Watching this video now after FW's weird product line decisions, really shows how moving so many HH weapon and customisation items OOP could put so many people off making the jump into HH. Before you could say to yourself, "You know what, that's not a terrible idea, I can make any legion I want with some nice upgrade parts from FW, and a good part of the work will be with plastic rather than resin". Now you look at it and say, "Well, at least I now know about recasters or aftermarket stores to buy the OOP weapon and legion upgrades from"

I've been into 30k-40k and WH Fantasy for almost 6 years now round about, discovered the universes late in the game unfortunately. But I've only ever been a Lorehammer nerd and never played tabletop, once I looked into 40k tabletop and discovered that completely absurd paywall to even start an army not including the amount of game books constantly releasing and their prices I decided to remain a Lorehammer nerd lmao. But if I were to ever play it would be without a doubt Horus Heresy, reading through the HH series now and absolutely love it to death regardless it's flaws. I have every intention on collecting the HH FW Black books as well.....in paperback....

I got two Calth boxes and made two mortis dreads.

Thanks for this. I started 40K with the original 40K Rogue Tradrer rulebook, but have been away from the game for some time, since about 5th edition. I missed the Horus heresy release but liked the era from original Adeptus Titanicus and Epic scale. So I was interested in getting into HH and 30K. Greetings from Katoomba NSW!

I always hoped for a third box. Maybe with MK2 Marines or Breachers, but instead they killed them.

Well done. I agree with your wisdom. I've purchased both sets...i like both very much; very useful

Prospero for me. I really don't like the Mk.IV armour though, so I'm biased. I also converted the Geigor model into a completely different guy. He ended up with a Bolt Pistol and a Power Axe. Doesn't really matter now anyway, and with a different backpack and head.

Calth. It was a little disappointing when I realised the dreadnought couldn’t be posed but the cataphractii and MK4 armor made it worth it. Plan on getting prospero for the marines and sisters of silence then selling the named characters.

"I dubbed this the Contempt or Rigor Mortis, which is a little play on words there" ... I'm not sure if you intended your delivery to sound like Korg from Thor Ragnarok (except the accent) but keep doing it, it's really funny.

as an aussie. a thumbs up from me for calling it "da fuck australian price!"

Can we get an f in the chat for these giga chads

As What do we do now, as of September 2021, both boxes are (like so many GW products) listed as 'No Longer Available Online'.

I got both for my 40k armies

Bonus episode?! I love bonus episodes. Can we get a bonus bonus video? :D

See I have a problem and I went and got both..... lol

As a side note, I know no one buys these boxes for the games, but prospero is a much much better stand alone game than calth

Wish this was still around

Some of the heavy weapons on ForgeWorld need their own resin infantry kits in order to hold them, not all of them are underslung like Bolters.

I got both that was the start to my night lords legion.

I Just Bought Calth BoxSet Today & Paid $300 After all was said & done. I Am making a single army out the entire boxset which is alot cheaper than buying individual from ForgeWorld

Starting my legion with a Calth set from Forgeworld.

Looking to start Death Guard, which generally favored MK III armour as it added to their already legendary toughness...And Cataphractii terminator armour for the same reasons... TT_TT Well, of to eBay to try and find those parts of both games!!!

Quite funny as today both are mostly out of stock everywhere, and Prospero is heading and more expensive to get as Calth

Both gone. I await salt

Awesome I needed this

Well its 120€ in Germany so you basicly pay for the Marines in the Boxes the rest is free. Because one squad is 40€. I already have BAC for my IVth when i start Salamanders i go for 2 Times BoP because they used MKIII. The rest i sell and buy my HQs of FW. The Austrailian prices are rediculos.

Man, I have to say I feel bad for you man. That shit is so expensive. I remember when BaC was still up, and it was like... 150... That's some serious bullshit they're pulling with you guys

I love this video ^-^ well done! I love the mk3 armor but its a good point that mk4 would be good for starters or people not confident in painting :) (plus i agree the dreadnought looks kinda off)

Both are discontinued. Great.

>managing to find a Burning of Prospero set after 2017

Is this now the only step in building a 30k army now that forgeworld screwed us? Lol (still great video dude :>)

Where is my Forgewrold Ultramarines Contemptor that i can get my iconography for?

So sad they arent produced anymore. I would Like to start 30k but without These Sets its Just way to expensive for me, hopefully they will bring them Back but we all know they wont :(

This vid is so sad now, looking at all the stuff you cannot get anymore, has the heresy really improved? hmmm

What I want to get are the Unification Wars shoulder pads but GW/FW don’t make them.

For 40k, Calth wins ,30 tactical ( in the best armour Mark imo ) 5 terminators, 2 characters and a dreadnought are a perfect way to expand your army, hell, it is almost enough for a full on Batallion by it self. You just need an extra HQ.

Calth the as all the people are generic and usable in the same army (the thousand sons marines are very thousand sonsey) prospero is just for the lore and isn’t a very effective starter set unless you plan to be creating a space wolves, thousand sons, custodes and sisters of silence army all at once

THEY MIXED UP TARTARUS WITH CATAPHRACTI IN THE BOXES. THE IRON PATTERN ARMOR SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITH CATAPHRACTI TERMI'S.

in aus got with a stockist that can do a 10% discount or better if you can

I am in a dilemma to pick a legion. I'm not sure If I want to pick the ultramarines or the alpha legion. Do you have any experience with these legions that you could share with me please? Bear in mind I do want to get the betrayal at calth set.

Owww! By tbe way i heard u don't like the hobby? 🤭😁🤣🤣😂🤣 That Stuff When I Heard It Had Me Rolling! Ur Australian 🇦🇺 & U Play Horus Heresy If that alone don't say U FREAKING LOVE IT! Than Nothing Else Does

Is OK to mix armour types in the narrative of 30k did they have forces in both mk3 and 4 I guess there would have been a change over period? mainly looking at night lords.

I don't want to be that guy but "You're going to struggle to convert Ahriman" well I did manage it, wasn't that hard and i'm pleased with the results, again not trying to be that guy just saying it's possible and can look good

£90 to $265 wtf GW

I always found mk 3 was easier to paint.

Gotta disagree with you on the storm shield thing. Why would forgeworld make a tartaros specific set if we weren't supposed to use them. I also like the idea that IF and SM developed different designs independently of each other. I wouldn't mind them being 4++ though.

Prospero. Only Mk III (&II) marines look distinctly different from the 40k era. Calth's Mk IV marines look too similiar to MK VII from 40k + they got ugly helmets. I got 3 boxes of Prospero and zero boxes of Calth. Nothing beats Mk III unmistakable 30k aesthetic.

MKIII looks way cooler. they look like knights with amazing shoulder pads and trim. MKIV looks like bubbly trash. and cataphractii over tartaros. "for the plastic within" PLASTIC WITHIN! PLASTIC WITHOUT!

In my opinion they should of gave different armours different rules. It may have made it complicated but it would give it a whole new layer.

I want to play horus heresy i have models for it i love the setting but i hate seventh edition

Neither wins now lmao

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Ahh yes start simple with simple characters then get cheesed by Eldar/1000sons or Space Wolves players :)