Nothing but an AMEN! Flowers, you are doing an excellent work for the Body of Christ for exposing calvinism's falsehoods and teaching people Bible in truth. Praise God!
Now if Flowers could only get away from the falsehoods of what he teaches/believes is correct => without jumping into another box => and come to realize BIBLICAL TRUTH => then we could both praise God!
@@13kimosabi13 Yes! everyone should embrace these truth's! Right? “ God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction.( John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6 “…salvation is freely offered to some while others are barred from access to it.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5) “We call predestination God’s eternal decree, by which he compacted with himself what he willed to become of each man. For all are not created in equal condition; rather, eternal life is fore-ordained for some, eternal damnation for others.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5) “…we say that God once established by his eternal and unchangeable plan those whom he long before determined once for all to receive into salvation, and those whom, on the other hand, he would devote to destruction…he has barred the door of life to those whom he has given over to damnation.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 7) Truth in love
Amen Brother Leighton! Continued prayers for strength and calmness during your journey. “Confront the doctrine, and try to not make it personal.” - So much love for this! I know personally that your ministry has saved a number of people out of the anxiety driven by Calvinism.
Not sure why reformed theology is a struggle. Question: when you pray do you thank God for your salvation? Do you intercede begging for God to have mercy on the lost? Also, when you were saved do you think it’s your own doing that someone came into your life with the gospel or you picked up a Bible? ( no , God in His providence sent the gospel to you and then you believed) Call it Calvinism; call it reformed theology; it’s simply biblical. Do we fully understand it, no, scripture also teaches the secret things belong to God.
Dr Flowers, I love seeing these videos of you speaking in a different context. Would love it if you continue to post sermons and talks you do to this channel. Even though it's the same material from your broadcast, for some reason the information hits differently and I make connections with the information that I hadnt made before. Thank you for your ministry
Calvinism always sounded logical, and even biblical, until I read Calvin’s Institutes on the matter of predestination, learned about infralapsarianism and supralapsarianism, and put it into a twenty page research paper for seminary. Oh how we often read Scripture through the interpretive lens of what we want to see. I’m thankful for your ministry, Dr. Flowers. Keep reaching Texas and beyond for Christ! By the way, Dr. Harwood replaced my copy of Christian Theology with a signed copy after mine ended up in the hands of the LDS Church.
Yep agree. The Trinity is the same way. Had to learn all about the Trinity in order to make a decision. I have thus concluded oneness is truth. I honestly believe if most people would apply what Flowers says to the Trinity it would collapse just like calvinism is.
@@krazzykracker2564Ah, the modalism, Sabellianism discussion. I’m assuming you’re apart of the Oneness Pentecostalism tradition. I can understand how someone arrives at this conclusion, however, I hold Trinitarian doctrine as a primary order of doctrine. Several great theologians throughout church history have written great thoughts on the Trinity, but this could very well become another great discussion that we circle back around to in the future. I had an interesting thought as I’ve done some sermon prep for a topical sermon on Genesis 1:1 and 1:26. In Genesis 1:1 alone, the word which we translate in English as “God” was written in plural form in the original Hebrew language. Of course, this doesn’t explicitly state that God is Triune in nature, but I wonder how Ancient Israel took it when they first heard that, especially among their polytheistic neighbors of the Ancient Near Eastern world. What are your thoughts?
@@thekoreancowboy considering that they were radically monotheistic we know how they understood it. They have been very consistent. The greatest commandment in the entire bible is the shema for both Jew and Christian. See it really is like flowers says about the lenses you wear. The only way someone can come to the conclusion there is a trinity is by first starting with the presupposition that it is true and reading it into the New testament. Then work backwards and superimpose it upon the old testament. When actually we should be doing what the apostles taught to start with the old testament and use it as a schoolmaster. And that schoolmaster is a radical monotheistic uni personal God believer just like all the prophets and apostles were.
Mr. Flowers you ARE doing God's work here. God is love. If Calvinism is true. God is not love but a Cosmic Sociopath. Combined with the false notion God is going to torment the lost Forever and ever we are left with nothing but a TERRORIST not a BEAUTIFUL SAVIOUR. God would have all men to be saved. If it grieves me that my fellow Christians think like this how much more must it Grieve God. Keep fighting Leighton...
I seek prayer as sitting under reformed preaching for the 1st time in 40 years and sifting through John Piper, McCarthur, J Vernon Magee, Martin Lloyd Jones has left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I must leave the church I am attending or continue to hear words that seem to me to be attacking God's loving nature. But where to go? The evangelical churches near me seem to either be turning to Progressiveism or Calvinism.. Even BSF as I understand teach Calvinism as they go.through Roman's now. Dr. Flowers has given me hope through this time period. Now to find church fellowship as it once was in the 1970's and early 80's.
Hey, friend. My best advice to you would be this: pray, pray, pray. You see, my wife and I were led to an amazing little church in KY by God's gracious providence. He put the right pieces in place at exactly the right time, even though we didn't know it. Ask Him to lead you to a biblical fellowship of believers. If it helps, consider good non-Calvinistic resources in the meantime such as Dave Hunt/the Berean Call or Answers in Genesis. Even with these ministries, however, test their teachings against the Word of God!
Thank you. I will do so. Church I wrote to today sent me a "I am not a fit with their church." I appreciate a straight up answer to my inquiry stating John 3:16 is a verse I take as meaning e everyone is invited into the Kingdom. The difficulty is many churches use non denominational names. I will pray and read Dave Hunt
Thank you! Yes, I'm depraved, and I know myself: I'm totally depraved; but I don't have to go into eternity wondering if I happen to not be one of the elect. I know Jesus died for me because God's provision is for everyone.
Just something you might want to consider. If you look up in a concordance all the verses on " chosen" and " election" you will find that they are connected with service, NOT in eternity past for eternal salvation. God chose Abraham to begat a great nation, God chose King David to replace Saul, God chose Paul to preach to the gentiles, God chose the 12 disciples for a purpose, ect.... election has to do with service !
While listening to this video my mom walks in and hears it and asks "is that David Jeremiah?" So apparently your sermon made her think of David Jeremiah.
I just heard something that tells me calvinism could get vastly more popular. Kirk Cameron is giving speeches from a dominionist, Calvinist perspective (but I'm thinking it's a "platform"), of "reformed", "strong," "always reforming" men taking over, under a "sovereign" God, to protect children from the wrongs that are attacking them, and otherwise fix the world. People of deepest contempt seem to be those who won't join in and get on the bandwagon, who look for the Rapture, as if this is a sure sign that we are willing to just passively let the devil attack children. But when the only answer is to join in, guys, that's a serious red flag. Cameron comes on like a dominonist presidential candidate, launching his campaign. If I watch it again, I intend to count the number of times he uses a form of the word, "reformed", and also the word, "sovereign". That seems to be another big plank in his platform. If we take a simple approach to the mind numbing problems of our time, sure, get on board. But the existence of a wrong does not imply that the alternative that presents itself is the true solution to the wrong. It might be that the devil has both sides wrapped up and that one works to insure the success of the other, and serves up his solution like a Trojan horse. Be wise, and beware.
Ray Comfort and that crew have always struck me as calvinistic but Ray told me he isn't a calvinist . Which means he's probably reformed but doesn't accept limited atonement.
It's just sad. I actually have to live with some secrets and lies; if I told them widely, maybe at all, I would not only die, but no one I told would probably believe me. But this burden makes me doubt that Cameron even believes in Jesus. Yet if "destiny" has his name written on it, I guess he's willing or seems to be. I certainly don't hate him, but I hate that so many are willing to play a part that ultimately works against Jesus, falsely discrediting Him.
@@dfischer5878 Universalists believe in universal or unlimited justification. Provisionists believe in limited justification. Atonement and justification are clearly not the same. Atonement is the payment that is made as a prerequisite for salvation or justification.
@dfischer5878 that's not true . Atonement doesn't equal salvation. When one thinks Atonement is the same thing as salvation for eternity, they have fundamental misunderstanding of sacrifice and Atonement. Atonement through the grace of CHRIST allows faith in CHRIST to bring salvation . If the atoning grace wasn't there, we couldn't even come into the presence of GOD to receive HIS salvation through faith .
Hello Dr. Flowers, thank you for your videos and speaking so clearly. I do have a concern! You said in this video that "I do not think that doctrine is Biblical". If the doctrine is not biblical, wouldn't it be a heretical doctrine? And, if it is heretical doctrine, wouldn't that mean that it is not of Christ and if it is not of Christ then it is of this world and if it is of this world then it is of satan? So shouldn't we strongly rebuke such doctrine? Thank you and God bless you!
Provisionalism ? "Provisionalism is the supportive behavior that contrasts certainty. This is when one person feels they are correct but is willing to listen to the other person and is prepared to change their mind or opinion if the other idea is more reasonable" I have no idea what that means
What is the scriptural basis of the definition of provisionism? Especially, where does it say God loves mercy over justice. It does say he loves mercy over sacrifice, but that is not justice exactly.
God, outside of time, knows everything from beginning to end. Thus he knows ahead of time, who is going to properly accept Jesus Christ. *_God Bless_* I was raised and educated Roman Catholic, upon reading the Bible and searching for God's truth over the years, I left that faith long ago. Protestants are far more divided than I had understood, when I was only focused on Christ in the RCC.
Is there a video explaining Limited Atonement? I’ve heard said that Christ died for the sins of the whole world, but that the atonement part only applies to those that accept Christ. Is this the same thing as saying Christ only died for the elect/ chosen when mentioned in Calvinism?
Couldn’t Omnibenevolence AND predestination to both eternal destinies BOTH be true because God has perfect foreknowledge (even before He created the Universe) AND you can never “get ahead” of God’s foreknowledge?
@@stevewilcock4767 God does not contradict himself. Bible doctrines are the same in the NT as in the OT. The level of revelation between OT and NT can seem different or sound different between the testaments, but that is an entirely different discussion. God's overall revelation is like an enormous zip file as it opens from OT to NT. Having been in both camps and taught in both camps, only Augustinianism (the proper term) is taught in the Bible. Arminianism is nowhere to be found in the scriptures except in the hands of folks who do not know what the term exegesis means and twist the verses like they were a waxed nose. In fact, there are at least three Biblical/logical proofs that "Nagasaki" Arminianism. Make it such that one cannot get there from here. If you are a sincere student of the scriptures, I can send you number one.
"By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death. This God has testified, not only in the case of single individuals; he has also given a specimen of it in the whole posterity of Abraham" The definition of Calvinism from John Calvin himself is refuted directly in scripture: Deu 30:19 NASB95 - 19 "I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants, Contrary to Calvin, life & death are a choice God sets before man and calls on him to choose.
People who work in the faith of Christ are disturbed by a worldwide phenomenon wherein people are falling away from the Christian faith. While no Christian might be exempt from the temptation to completely lose heart, it is the Arminians/Provisionists who are most susceptible of falling away and thus not persevering to the end as our Lord commands. Such people are most vulnerable to find out in eternity that Christ never knew them. After all, if you believe that you chose Christ, instead of the other way around, you will always have your mind and heart focused on what you have done. But what if you are always looking outward and upward knowing and realizing that God chose you? That it was God's electing grace, His regenerating power, that gave you the faith to believe in Him, to have a will not in bondage to sin but a will in bondage to Christ as the Apostle Paul says? The coming persecution could actually be at the door this time and in our nation. If you are depending alone on some little prayer you prayed or decision you made way back when, you could be in eternal trouble of repudiating everything you think you now have as a Christian. I think of Mary, Jesus' mother, who stood at the foot of the cross. She could have simply told the Roman authorities that her Son was just crazy. "He gets this way sometimes. He's off his meds. Let me take Him home. I will keep Him there and not let Him out of the house." Mary knew in her heart of hearts that was just not the case because of the angel who came to visit her and because of how she knew she became a mother. Think about this. This conflict I believe is God's way of purifying the church. Where do you want to be?
Calvinism in a nut shell: “ God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction.( John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6 CHARLES SPURGEON: "...that there is no such a thing as preaching Christ and him crucified unless you preach... Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I state boldly. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else" (C. H. Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol. 1, 1856) John Piper : The doctrines of grace, otherwise known as the 5 Points of Calvinism or TULIP, we believe that these 5 truths are biblical and therefore true. John MacArthur : have my own private opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified, unless we preach what nowadays is called Calvinism. CALVINISM IS HERESY!!!
You are engaging with your unwise comment in a damnable practice. The Arminian/Calvinist debate is an intramural contest within the family of Christ. Leighton Flowers tells his listeners that in numerous videos. True, Arminianism is error, not heresy. To the unwise Arminians, Calvinism is error, not heresy. You must repent of calling fellow believers non-Christians. You do blasphemy to the saving character of Jesus when you do that.
@@truth7416 Wow. Your unrepentant attitude. I am reminded of that book that says how you can spot a liar. One of the ways is when somebody says "Now I mean this in love". "We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death. Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. " 1John 3:14-15. Hopefully God shows you the error of your ways.
@@Gablesman888 You said "Wow. Your unrepentant attitude." What you meant is that I won't repent from not believing Calvinism!! I am a Christian I follow Jesus Christ. I try to win souls to salvation. Calvinist try to win a person to believe that God doesn't love them,or wants to save them, or died for their sins. You pick what side your on. Truth in Love
1 Timothy 4:9-11 KJVS This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. [10] For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. [11] These things command and teach. I am curious, do they even read the scriptures? Sound doctrine is based on scripture. Here is another one for them. Ephesians 4:14 KJVS That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Problem is by you saying God sends a provisional truth i.e. knowledge...the Spirit is the one that makes that truth real in the life of a sinner. Who turns the light on that allows us to see and understand that provisional truth? The Spirit does. God saves.
A. The Soteriology of the early Church was not Reformed, nor was it Arminian or even Provisionism. They believed in a salvation that was conditioned upon the ongoing obedience of faith. The branch possesses life only as long as it remains (relationally) connected to the Vine and remains - 24 As for you, let what you have heard from the beginning remain in you. IF it does, you will also remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He Himself made to us: eternal life. (1 John 2:24-25) Eternal life is continuing in the Father and Son. We continue in them only IF we abide IN the gospel message and do not turn from it in disobedience or abandon it for another "gospel" B. This ORGANIC view of salvation stands in contrast to the CONTRACTURAL view of men like Leighton Flowers who (seemingly) views salvation as a contract without obligations or consequences which, once signed, becomes permanent and unalterable no matter what evil the human who sins the human partner might do. C. It is plain that Jesus did not have this in mind when He preached the gospel. The gospel He preached was not a contract but a covenant that involves the whole person.. Although he did preach that men must believe certain things primarily the call was to come to Him personally. When we come we must not assent to propositions but surrender ourselves to him 24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to COME AFTER ME , he must DENY HIMSELF and take up his CROSS and FOLLOW ME. 25 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever LOSES HIS LIFE for My sake will find it. 26 What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in EXCHANGE for his soul? (Matthew 16:24, 25) D. Unlike Jesus, many modern "free grace" antinomians do not recognize giving oneself to Christ as an essential act of faith that brings us into obedient union with Him but Paul did: …16 Do you not know that when you OFFER YOURSELVES as obedient slaves, you are slaves to the ONE you OBEY, whether you are slaves to sin leading to death, or to OBEDIENCE leading to RIGHTEOUSNESS? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you once were slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly OBEYED the form of teaching to which you were committed.18 You HAVE BEEN SET FREE from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.… (Romans 6:16-18) When were the Romans "set free from their sin?" It happened when they OFFERED themselves to Him
Can someone please help me out. I have a Calvinist friend how say women are not allowed to be a pastor. According to 2 Timothy 2:12. Is this a true statement?
Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. I Corinthians 14:34-37
1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 are the pastoral chapters to go by in the Bible. The only thing women cannot be in this Church age is pastors, eleders in church, and heads of home in marriage. Only men can be pastors, elders and spiritual leaders at home. This does not mean women are less valuable than men. Galatians 3 is cleat that in Christ Jesus is no man or woman regarding salvation and our standing before God. Both are made into the image of God, both valuable yet different and God has, in His wisdom, chosen to give us differences at of which we can use them in church, home and in society to compliment one another, not to compete to see who is holier in the flesh or "better" ontologically.
@@grizz4489 Those verses are about order in church, not pastoral epistle. Some women were out of order in church and were, accoeding to church history, yelling at their husbands at church services. Not only women but ALSO men need to be quiet and listen, not to disturb the service in chaos, by interruptions when we worship, have communion, or hear preaching from God's Word.
@@grizz4489 I've always had a problem with this scripture. It makes God comes off as sexist. Why in the world would it be shameful for women to speak in church? Why are they not good enough to do so?
Yes, I understand. I have a question. Is the concept of SIN primarily objective by nature or primarily subjective by nature? Your answer will determine your theology.
While I want to believe that no one is in hell because God wanted them there or didn't love them, scripture also speaks how he made us lower than the angels, the exact meaning of which I don't know. Two thirds, the majority, of angels are in heavem while only a minority of people will be in heaven. By following the information given to its conclusion, if God had either made us angels or "higher" like them the majority of people would also be in heaven. So, my question is, why wouldn't God do that?
If God really does love "evvaboddy", then don't you think that Adolf Hitler and Madalyn Murray O'Hair are starting to "feel da looove" about now? We only know the love of God--His saving love (the only love that counts) through salvation in Christ. Where in scripture do you ever hear even Jesus, much less the apostles, etc., ever attempting to persuade sinners to God and His salvation beginning with "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life"? Now God does exercise His providential beneficence upon everyone. "The rain falls on the just and the unjust". That is a different subject altogether.
God desires mercy and justice equally, in fact He is mercy and He is Just in very being so the two cannot be divided. Calvinism supports this while provisionism seems to deny it which is a very big problem.
@@lindajohnson4204 so this brings about another problem. If you are saying that when Jesus died on the cross He died for the sins of literally every person who ever existed sufficiently. Then why do people still go to hell? Because if Jesus died for the sins of everyone then everyone would be saved, whether or not they believe because all sin was paid for. But if these people still go to hell then that would make God unjust. I hope this makes sense.
@jacobjames6339 Because "light has come into the world, and MEN preferred darkness over light, because their deeds were evil". Take it up with Jesus; it's in John 3, who came to save sinners. If all of us, who have done evil, and hide from the light of God, just like Adam did, SOME of us eventually "do truth", just like the publican did in the parable, and like the thief on the cross eventually did. Jesus does not explain why those "who do truth" eventually do. But like rather unrighteous Abraham, who "believed God, and it was accounted unto him as righteousness", we eventually relent and give God the faith He is drawing us and convicting us to give Him . There is no explanation beyond that, probably because God didn't want some specific statement about this type of sinner or that, to discourage any type of sinner from coming to Him (and those who come to Him, He will not cast away).
@jacobjames6339 Look up the biggest little word in scripture and do a study on how many times it's used and the context it's used in. That biggest little word is "IF" It's all over the Bible and it's ALWAYS a condition placed on man. Never God. Example: If you confess. .. If you believe. .. If you abide in Me. .. If you have ears to hear. ... If you have faith.... A good study of the word "IF" should easily answer your question.
Dr. Flowers what about all the people that were not Jews in Old Testament was God trying to save them. It does not sound like He was when you read the scriptures. Most He was having destroyed. Paul said in Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, You may not known this, children do not adopt themselves but are chosen. Only those who truly believe in Jesus are saved not the pagans of the world.
I know many on here are encouraged by this, but I have to admit that I'm not... Is the evangelical church going to survive this takeover? So many are being led astray, and in my experience, most Calvinists never drop this belief system once they are indoctrinated into it. I feel so defeated by how effective, how successful this takeover has been...
If God is infinite He does not desire Mercy over Truth. He demands mercy equally with justice. He can not be infinitely merciful and finitely just. Through Christ infinite mercy satisfied infinite justice. For God to desire mercy over justice would be like him saying Oh I wish I wasn't the way I am..... He desires Mercy and Justice equally....
And He has justice in the cross. In what way would favoring one little group over all other people, not allowing the sin of any others to be remedied by the cross, make justice somehow "better" served, above and beyond the cross?
I think you missed Flower's point. He was saying God would rather wanna show mercy to people than judge them. Grace and mercy is found in Jesus that is why God offers salvation in Christ Jesus for all. If you stay in your sins without Jesus then there is nothing else except condemnation in hellfire and that is just.
Both are total BS ! One side believes God chooses 3% for heaven and 97% for Hell……while the other believes God gives enough information for everyone to believe but only 3% do => so it’s still 97% going to Hell for all eternity. Both are lies. Satan wins in both of those scenarios. Every group, church, denomination etc. thinks they’re in the 3% going to heaven. All groups send out missionaries which only perpetuates the same chaos and confusion we have in Christendom here. If it wasn’t so sad it would be laughable. God knew the Jews would make a mess of things even before creation => and it’s been true of the gentiles too. Thankfully God had a better plan through Jesus Christ than nearly anyone could imagine and it covers all of us !
@@shredhed572. You need to follow the instructions given in 2 Tim: 2:15 kjv => or you’ll just jump into another box. But it’s ok if you don’t => God still has you covered. Adam got you into this mess without you being there => and Jesus got you out without your input too => because as a spiritually dead/fallen human => you had nothing to offer. It’s ok for you, me everyone => because God will show you everything you need to believe……and you will. Doubting Thomas’s will was NOT to believe => but God made it possible. Saul’s will was to kill all Christians => God intervened => and Paul believed. Eventually, every knee will bow…..everyone shall confess….. It’s best if you do a study on the words that have been translated into the word hell in your Bible……and on words like FOREVER => so get a Strong’s and a Vine’s and get the truth. If you don’t get to the point where you understand …..Progressive Revelation, Ages and Dispensations, Context, Cessation and the specific/particular conditions of scripture when it was written and to whom => you’ll just never get there. It’s either given to you or it’s not. I can’t convince anyone. And no one can see it on their own. Pray for wisdom and insight when reading God’s word….and perhaps with study and a right heart attitude it will be allowed for you to see it on this side => but no worries => HE had it all checkmated before the game began.
You get the Comical Comment of the Day Award. Your 3% number is mighty generous. There are both Christian and, yes, pagan estimates as to the world population at the time of Noah's flood. (The pagans are those scientists who see the world evidence of a world flood but do not accord any spiritual significance to it). Anyway, some Christian sources peg the population number as high as 750 million. The pagans can run the estimate up as high as 4 billion. Now, according to Genesis, how many first class seats were on the Ark (for people, that is)? Divide 8 by either estimate above and you will get way way under 3%. Jesus said it best in His Sermon on the Mount: “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matt 7:13-14. You might want to take Jesus and His salvation more seriously going forward. He who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
@@Gablesman888 Only 8 out of 750 million is very low…….we have around 7.5 billion alive today…..so statistically => if you are really saved, why even say to me => if I call upon the Lord ? With 330 million n the USA => you’re one of the 3 or 4 getting in correct? I’m ROTFLMAO at you => pretty sure YOU deserve the comical clown award. The TRUTH IS no one deserves to get in but thanks be to God who reconciled us all thru the D, B & R of Jesus! PS. Please learn to Rightly Divide => Matthew isn’t TO US……also if God doesn’t save Noah’s family => no one gets saved and HE would have been a liar. The plan before creation was to reconcile and restore things => and it could only be done one way => ONE VERY NARROW WAY => JESUS!!!
@@truthseeker5698 Both Calvinism and Provisionalism are a distortion of Paul's gospel. One claims that Christ only died on the cross for some - the other claims that the Spiritually blind can see.
@@user-nd7dy2kv6x Listen to the first 50 seconds of SOT 101 posted several hours ago on what God providess….. if you do listen , share your thoughts if you’re willing.
@@truthseeker5698 What do you suggest is worthwhile to follow ? Paul "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Rom 2:16 "according to my gospel." Not Matthew's gospel Not Mark's gospel Not Luke's gospel Not John's gospel And certainly not Leighton's gospel Paul's gospel - know the difference! Paul was not a freewillist - otherwise he would have said faith is a 'choice' - a 'decision'. He never said that!! Provisionists insert make a choice to have faith into the text. Saul was a Provisionist aka freewillist until the Lord had mercy on him. Until then he believed what the god of this world had led him to believe. Here is an example of Provisionism in the Bible: "Therefore Jesus was saying to the Jews having believed in Him" "to the Jews having believed in Him" They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Moreover they said "we have one Father, even God.” But Jesus said of them "You are of your father the devil" There are no false converts when the Spirit of God produces faith in a person. That's not the case with freewillism!!
