Excellent breakdown of this video... I learned a lot. When I try to hit the ball hard, I move off the ball too much and I tend to rush the transition, clearly the opposite of Camron. Thank you for sharing
What is impressive is he gets into impact position so early in the downswing with his weight shift, pelvic rotation and even torso position, which gives him so much time (relatively) to accelerate the club head. Super flexibility and strength. I love where his right elbow is in relation to the torso throughout but particularly in the downswing (never out of position), with his left arm being flung off the chest and big lag catching up with the 'marker' position of the right arm in the downswing. Thanks for the analysis very useful.
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Finally we can go back to lifting the left heel back again. ALL tour players do this. I love your expression de-weighted, because it shows that you are talking about pressure. Even guys like Rory, who seems to be grounded 100% of the time during the swing lift their left heel a bit before planting it again. I’ve been swinging like this thanks to the guys at AMG, who showed through gears 3D that the left heel relieves pressure early in the backswing and replants again early to have a solid left leg to pivot through. Great analysis! 👍
Thank you -- totally agree. My favorite are guys like this who utilize pressure so effectively yet have minimal lateral motion in their swings -- especially with the longer clubs.
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I'm from the UK.I attended Children's Shrinners at Vegas.Met Cameron and his dad Gary lovely boy. I filmed on the 1st on Pro-am day he drove it 380 he's a beast.
Good job coverying this, Jeremy. Cameron is a local phenom and I started studying his swing this past year...learning a bit about the swing in doing that. Very enlightening.
DUDE I loved this, very informal, i loved the drawings, since i am kinda a visual learner, and as well as the talking in the background, not to soft so u cant hear, and not to loud so it wouldn't hurt ur ears, very nice,
Great Analysis. I found it interesting how his club shaft was pointing way outside of the ball (like Hogan), but the next frame, it was not, but the club head had hardly moved at all, while the hands really moved down.
I have never seen lag like this in my life. This is a swing that would be difficult to replicate and could get many amateurs in trouble by trying to replicate it... not because of the positions of the swing, but how he obtains the lag. The lag is obtained by his lower body and hips at the top of the swing. His arms are neutral and just along for the ride. Fascinating swing, but for the average Joe, if you are trying to replicate this, make sure your arms are passive and you let the transition of the lowerbody lead the swing from the top. I am amazed.
Like all long hitters, the club is still finishing the BS while his hips start rotating towards the target. For me, the longer that delay (wind up/elastic stretch/coil - call it whatever), the more potential energy is being pent up to unleash more power. Many of us try to get the club back to the ball and our instinct is the driving force here. I'm trying my best to learn how to delay this transition, which allows for smoother tempo and power. You know the feeling when you get it. I'd love to hear of a drill to get this.
@jeremy wells don't you think different camera angles portray differently? For instance 2:02 in the left screen it looks like that the downswing and all the power are initiated from the right side whereas in the face on video it looks like the left thigh and lower leg are rotating first.
He seems to be stretching all those rubber bands all the way before even making contact. And I like how he throws his arms at the end to add even more power.
I came here because I was really impressed with a wedge swing this guy made at the Sanderson Farms today. Had a hunch he might be a bomber from the way he loads even the touch shots. Wow. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a couple of wins pretty soon.
What an awesome mini analysis! I personally believe the modern swing with restrictive legs are keeping a lot of us back. It's only natural that we need resistance to push off from. Why on earth are we being told to keep massive flex in trail knee??
All you need to do is keep the lead side of the pelvis low in transition and then the right side of the pelvis low just before contact. It’s a teeter totter move. Then just make sure you’re right arm is external and the COM is behind you.
His first move is still with the hands down. He is releasing from the top. As the golden bear said you cannot release too soon. He does not lead with or fire his hips. He releases from the top. The hip position throughout and at the end is a consequence or effect, not a cause, along with an incredibly athletic and dynamic movement. If folks watching this think they have to fire their hips to start the move they will screw up and probably end up coming back over the top. That is not what is happening here. Also note the shallowing of the shaft at the top is actually him shallowing or moving his hands down. That is the initial move to start the backswing. Whilst this is great to watch I advise folks go and watch Mike Malaska and the Malaska move videos to better understand what is happening
That is not his first move. His first move is the AGGRESSIVE transition with the lower body, which happens right before the club gets to parallel on his backswing, which immediately forces the club down before his arms start initiating a downward movement towards the golf ball. I have never seen lag like this in my life, but I can assure you that his arms are completely passive in creating the lag. The lag is entirely created with the lowerbody transition. If the arms initiated the lag, the club would start falling towards the golf ball, but his club just drops straight down while remaining parallel. He doesn't release the lag until he is almost at the ball. Anyone who releases early cannot create lag.
@@UTBaller22 No that is not what people like Malaska and Scheinblum are making about hip and arm movement. Their point which I may not have made clear is that what you are seeing in the swing is an effect not a cause. Scheinblum makes this point explicitly, we start the release with the hands from the top, but the effect in the swing is for the hips to move first. If you go and deliberately fire the hips to achieve lag you end up in the wrong position as you come back through the downswing into the ball. I could leave links but just search on Scheinblum and Malaska they have lots of information on that. Malaska is the director of the Global Nicklaus academy and both are highly rated PGA coaches
@@myroseaccount I like Malaska and agree with a lot of his teaching. However, he has some things I disagree with too. This is something that can be tested. I want you to try to keep your hands at the top of your swing while transitioning your weight forward and rotating your hips. It's impossible. Your hands will inevitably drop down towards your shoulder. It's not just a rotation, but feels kind of like a squatting motion. If you do this slowly and don't feel tension in your left butt cheek, you are doing it wrong. Nonetheless, in a previous comment, I said that amateurs should not try to replicate this to create lag because it is not an easy move to replicate and can cause a mirage of problems. However, my point is still valid in which this guy is not leading with pulling his hands down at the top of the swing.
@@myroseaccount In this video, he talks about the lower body initializing the downswing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rk5Q10IoRjc.html
Jeremy, great analysis of his swing. Just read Hogan's Five Lessons: Modern Fundamentals of Golf, and as I was watching first part of video, it occurred to me how much his swing follows basic swing Hogan refers to in his book. Your comment at around 5:22 mark regarding Hogan pretty well comfirms my thought. Nice work with the video!
I think for amateur golfers- the most missed thing in this video is that he addresses the ball off the heel of the club. This promotes a shallowing move to hit the ball from the inside.
Wisdom in Golf has been teaching this dynamic out-of-the-box swing for 25 years. It goes completely against the modern teaching methodologies. It uses hip rotation as a means to complete the backswing and trigger the downswing - notice how Champ's downswing is triggered by a move to "find the ground" another huge WIG methodology. The move to find the ground unleashes a powerful uncorking of the initial gathering (backswing). The movement is completely natural and free of restriction. Notice the way the elbow is able to stay cocked until the very last moment as the upper body gets out of the way - this is a product, a natural product of using the ground to initiate the downswing. Watch his left leg go get the ground which causes the dip (the need to coalesce the ground's energy) and the foundation for stress-free, easy-as-pie, mythical power.
I'm unfamiliar with WOG but I would argue that everything you just talked about is absolutely modern and currently popular (and correct). Swing theories come and go but one thing is for sure -- the idea of "restricting the hips" is no more!
What Slew is getting at is these tour pros who are tearing their bodies apart hitting it 300 yards have been fed a load of garbage for the past 20-30 years and now you are here saying “this restricted turn is out.” These pros now are and have been taught by people who understand how to make a metal rod go fast but they don’t understand the impact on the human body. Here restrict this but spin this, break your back and tear the cartilage and ligaments in your knees but hey you’ll get 120 mph CHS and 180 BS. Or you could be a researcher of the swing and look at the guys who played the game from 30-90 yrs ago and say, “hey they look nothing like these “pro’s” on tour today.” Once you jump down that rabbit hole you will almost instantly be introduced to WIG and Shawn Clement, who has been teaching this swing for 20+ years and 8-10 yrs on RU-vid (for free on RU-vid). His audience is massive and his in person lessons, you tube lessons or on line lessons are top notch. Golf is a game of trust and reward. If you swing like Champ you are playing into the WIG method and his coach knows what he is talking about: if you swing like Bubba you are swinging in the WIG method and your coach knows what he is doing because he understands the human brain; the human anatomy and how to make a metal rod go quickly in a circle, while letting the human body move how it is intended. These “PGA Pros” what have been teaching their BS for 20 years are now all backing off their teachings because they don’t want to be sued for teaching an individual how to hurt themselves. But hey if it means changes to the modern day golf instruction I’m all for it. If you haven’t check out Shawn. If you check him out give it more than 2 lessons at the range. If you have the opportunity go see him or contact him.
@@psilver063 The proof is in the pudding as far as I'm concerned, I've had so many "ah-ha" moments with Shawn Clements which created lasting improvement, and enabled me to move further into this free-flowing methodology, naturally. I'm 54, I have Lupus, which has reeked havoc on my body, and my golf game has never been better or more consistent (when I'm not a specific medication which causes considerable weight gain), I'm shooting 2 over par every 9 holes and if i could putt with any consistency I'd be aropund par every time. Golf is fun thanks to Shawn Clements. And I learn new things every day because of his great teching.
@@psilver063 Thanks for your comment about Shawn -- been checking his stuff out and it's great. Looks like he was one of the first to the RU-vid game a decade ago and he does a great job!
@alex vwenz I see no benefit to keeping the trail leg braced/flexed throughout the swing -- especially for the non-elite athlete. Not only does keeping trail leg bent limit hip turn in backswing, but it also makes it very difficult for your pelvis to tilt properly. Your pelvis will typically stay too level and lead to a handful of new issues as the swing progresses. It sounds like you learned this through trial and error -- always a valuable teacher!
Jeremy Wells Golf Great! I’m just plugging away. Always a work in progress. I spent years looking and looking and nothing worked until I started the Hogan work. Maybe sometime we could do a video chat on my channel about your approach to the swing?
Now that's a kinetic chain. look how those hands and arms are the final cracking of the whip. I notice he's on his lead foot forward. is he pushing his lead hip back and out of the way with that foot?
You're right on the money with the kinetic chain. It's amazing how much he can stretch each section from the next. It looks like he gets his pressure into his left foot very early on. From there he is pushing up out of the ground as he completes his rotation heading into impact. Notice how his front foot "de-weights" for a 2nd time right before impact --- a trait we see in the players with the most "vertical force"
This can basically be summed up in one word. LAG. His Flexibility allows for the club to hang back until the last second when the entire kinetic chain pulls it thru. Lag.
Lag, yes. However, it is not his flexibility that creates that lag. It certainly helps though. It's his transition from the top, which can be created without too much flexibility. Rory McIlroy (as he has quoted that he can rotate well beyond 90 degrees and has to be careful about over rotation on his backswing) is probably the most flexible player on tour, but doesn't create anywhere near the lag as Cameron. His lag is created by the aggressive lowerbody shift at the top of the swing. He actually initiates the shift right before his club gets to parallel, which creates even more lag and gives that slight pause effect at the top of the swing.
One of the things that really confuses me about swings like this that make it to the highest level on tour is the amount of lag retention he has in his swing at impact. I think of DJ and how he uses his rotation to square up the clubface yet he also uses his body but without being an incredibly "closed face" player. I do have one question that I would like addressed... What was his angle of attack with the driver? I have a similar swing to Cameron Champ, minus that amount of shallowing which I been working on and that high of speed (im around 120-122 tops). I am playing at scratch, but for a scratch player I have a common tendency to top my 3woods off the deck and my Driver lacked accuracy this year yet im not really steep either. My iron game carries me. A very restricting issue when I am playing with higher level D1 players who do not have those problems, and neither should I. How does Cameron Champ get himself to match up that move? I would think he would be creating excess axis tilt to negate all the lag he creates but damn the whole thing is confusing because he is hitting the ball really well. Because his "release" seems to occur well past impact and I dont understand how he hits the ball so well if his bottom out point would appear to be a little late? A reply would actually be appreciated because this is some insight id love an opinion on its just interesting
Hi James -- thanks very much for your comment. I'll start from the top. DJ is interesting because he doesn't have much "lag" yet he hits it way farther than most. He employs ulnar deviation in his wrists throughout the entire downswing. Hard for him to store a bunch of lag due to his extremely flexed left wrist. When I think of "lag," I think of guys like Sergio and Champ. Champ seems to employ a negative attack angle on his drives. I'm sure he feels like he controls the ball better this way and he absolutely can afford to sacrifice a few yards due to his crazy speed. That being said, he still works his upper-body away from the target on the downswing -- especially the late downswing -- as do most great drivers of the golf ball. This tilting helps him to not hit too far down. It's absolutely not a bad thing to do with driver. As for your issues, it's tricky to tell much without seeing a swing. I know you mentioned you don't shallow the club like Champ -- no one does. Is your club shallow in early downswing? Where does butt end of club point when your arms are parallel to ground in downswing? If it points inside of the ball, you're going to have to compensate with some sort of early extension/secondary tilt. Same thing if your lead arm is too far away from you. At your speed, timing any compensations/manipulation late in the downswing can be really hard.
Rumor has it his fairway finder is a low fade that launches at about 3 degrees and carries around 300 yards. The swings in this video were launching at 9 degrees and carrying way farther. I would guess he has a fade bias but I'm not sure.
Nice analysis, but I think you missed one of the more distinctive moves, which is the internal to external shoulder rotation in transition. Looks to account for the big shallowing move
Imagine you are arm wrestling. Internal rotation would happen if you are winning. External rotation would happen if you're losing. In golf, the goal is to be moving towards external rotation in transition and the early downswing. In this video, Champ does that better than anyone.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 and as a former tournament tennis player, this is the exact move that all top tennis players do on their forehand - and as someone who also taught tennis and just observed a lot of tennis, it's something that you really can't teach to older players who never learned to swing as fast as possible as a child because their stroke is completely different built on timing that never creates an externally rotated shoulder - and thus they don't, and can never have that power. Just found your channel when I decided to look up Cameron - nice job on the video.
@@wallstreetoneil Excellent insight! As a teaching pro in South Florida, I get a ton of senior players. I completely agree about learning to swing hard at a young age. It's a tremendous challenge to learn later on.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 Not necessarily, it depends who you ask, I suppose. Just think it's interesting how all the power hitters do this but lots of "traditional" instruction says get into your heel, blah blah.
Jeremy, considering your experience working with older golfers, who ALL want to hit it farther, what technique changes have you found to be most productive? Cheers!
Complete your turn on backswing. Add some hip turn to backswing. Get hands high. Dive deeper into mechanics to make sure your swing isn't giving you a reason to slow your body down as you head into impact (steep shaft, open clubface, improper sequencing, etc).
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 The delay in transitioning the club's direction at the top while his hip starts turning, to me, is the key to that power. Do you have any drills in the gym or on the range to achieve this two-stretch as Jack calls it? Bryson, Kyle etc are both doing it.
Try what? I wouldn't expect to swing it 130 or to create the separation of body segments you see here. I believe there are elements of this swing and all the other great ones out there that we can all learn from and use within our own limitations.
WOW, what a swing! Generating that amount of torque within his joints will be putting an enormous stress on the joints and connective tissue, I doubt that it will be long before he needs reconstructive surgery. I give him less than 5 years. It's a close call whether it will be his knees, hips, spine or elbows, but my money is on his ankles!!
Bandit Baker nonsense... you know his body and physique? This Guy is in the gym and under guidance for quite some years now. They know exactly what is weak points are, and where he had to improve. It is so opportunistic to call out that he will be injured.
I hope that I am wrong and I hope that he remains injury free. However Tiger Woods, Jason Day and Henrik Stenson and many others were all benefiting from "guidance" in the gym and they have each succumbed to serious stress related injuries. 5 years may have been too pessimistic, however given the torque that he is generating through his joints I will be surprised if he escapes serious stress related injury beyond 10 years. (Time will tell).
I still don’t h set stand why the “X factor” “restricted him turn” was touted for so many years. Champ is like Sadlowski and Bubba with that lovely free hip turn and they are pound for pound extremely long of course.
Nice swing, how many wins or close wins. Bryson now is in this class of numbers, except with a US Open and another win and top 5's. I like the Champ swing better than Bryson's. It's that Bryson knows how to use his swing. Swing speed must not be everything. Rory feels his need for extra speed has affected his golf swing negatively. He said this after he missed the cut at the 2021 Players Tournament.
It’s been proven that hips have very little to do with swing speed. Long drive hitters have cleared well over 300 yards while on their knees (taking the hips completely out of it). It’s arms and upper body strength and speed. Former long drive champions have said that they’re just trying to drive those arms in front of their body as fast as they can (anti stuck maneuver to actually restrict the hips) rather than spin out of it and get stuck behind the hips.
A couple of thoughts: If he turned his hips less (say none), are you saying he would still swing just as hard? How much speed would he lose? If a golfer hits from his/her knees, who's to say he/she isn't using hip rotation? Finally, check out Jamie Sadlowski's swing and keep an eye on what his legs are doing.
I know its hard to fully digest the dynamics of a proper golf swing, but joe his hips are EVERYTHING! The massive coil his hips are creating is so obvious dude. His arms are doing NOTHING once he gets to the top. They're going along got the ride.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 😁👊 I guess so. It's fascinating how the games is changing. What I believe is long driving technique will pour onto the tour. Sadlowski is right in saying that it's a game of accuracy and not distance. But I remember i read a quote by some colleague golf trainer in US (I'm from sweden) ..."hit as far as you can and then we figure out hitting it straight". Boom 😁
Greg Norman used to preach exactly the same thing back in the 1980s for teaching juniors - first just learn to hit it as hard as you can, then we'll figure out the rest
I think a lot of this as to do with clubs tech and not just swing... if the clubs didn't forgive as much as they do now a tons of players without a great swing and talent wouldn't be able to enter the pga tour, now you're starting to see young players who doesn't care they just try to bomb hit as far as they can and train the pitching wedge greatly etc because thats how north america golf is played now with courses setup... but if you go to europe with some older course and twist where you have to work the ball both way theses type of golfer became useless
Technology in a driver doesn’t improve club head speed and ball speed that much. You can argue he hits hit as far as he does because of technique, but even Dustin Johnson uses the same technology and doesn’t swing the club as easily as champ.
I hope so too. It seems like most of these younger guys are taking really good care of themselves from a conditioning and nutritional standpoint. It would be cool to see injury comparisons between current players and more old-school guys. Also, I'm not sure young players care so much about playing forever. They are making a lot of money in a quick amount of time.
