CAMPAIGN vs VERSUS | Left 4 Dead 2 

That's true

I thought the route changed based on team hp.

@@thuglifebear5256 It's either specific factors ( Like Team HP, items equipped, team performance, etc.) or RNG (Completely randomized) and in some case a mix of both. Usually the method is set by the mapper when they make the map.

god bless yall still making content on l4d2

@@JAiZRU-vid it's hp bc its always open during speedruns

thats actually theres like some untold rules when playing public servers... look it up i wish i did when i was 12

@@alexyang5069 bro I didn't do a death charge on dead center, and got kicked. I didn't even know what death charge was at the moment.

@@zear2284 ik the feeling of "dont get charger deathd" *gets charger deaded*

@@alexyang5069 no mercy roof 💀

@@zear2284 That is why I hate playing on my favorite maps in versus. Dead Air & No Mercy have so many charger kill spots but those morons are going to get pissy just because you didn't kill an opponent in the opposing team. "Wah u bad at vido game u no kill :( me kick. XD"

Fuel can magically turns into gas can

@@4bafiafzil999 gas is fuel my niegga

@@itdobelikedattho8112 gas is gas, gas is not gasoline, there is a difference but un the US it's used as a synonim for fuel

Rinse and repeat for the passing. Really annoying when playing with randoms. Never hesitate to shoot the cans for no reason.

make that 4 if you find other two

Unfortunately stuff like bhop isn't "patched" in versus. Great to see speedrunners use, not so much in versus. Same thing as the skips IMO

Kinda like in L4D the original Rooftop level has plenty of safe camping areas that make the level trivial. In survival Valve made it so these spots no longer exist, they’re much harder to use and you’re better off playing normally, or you are punished for using it.

@@vocassen I mean it is something that not everyone can do, a path is something else, since you just gotta know about it, for example, I cannot do Bhop, but a friend can do it perfectly, since he has player a lot of source games

@@vocassen most people dont even know how to bhop it's only the tryhard % of the community every game I play and yes I play on PC every game is normal like a Xbox game no bhopers just normal players bhop is super hard to do especially if you doing the crouch bhop

@@TeoUnreleased Idk I see it rarely but that's what makes it even more annoying on those otherwise close games that give the person bhopping the deciding advantage - e.g. tank when your team REALLY needs to win or, conversely, to escape a tank, or quite commonly to yeet yourself among the survivor as a boomer or smth. Even though that's not fully bhopping, the extra speed from the single acceleration before spawning often makes the difference. But yeah you can play the majority of the games without actively seeing it

Now i learned thank you for this video. :-)

Damn I didn't knew that I thought they are just random

well in all maps and it depends on your gameplay if you're doing good or bad

@@DRB-il2pg Not all maps, it can be either based on how you're doing, completely RNG, or a mix of both. The Parish's cemetery layout for example is entirely based on RNG.

AI Director

@@WTFiTzFlow 🙂

That's Bill

@@acy2668 Fuck it man! I didn't realized lol

7:53

It's worth noting that layouts are RANDOM in 'campaign' but FIXED in 'versus'

Same

not really the director can change the ways and layout of the maps depending on how good or bad you are in the game

Theres a addon where it randomizes no matter what

That first part isn't exactly correct, the video somewhat mischaracterizes it. The Dead Center mall map can definitely give either version in either mode. I'm sure there are some statistical differences & other variables but it's not a simple if-campaign-then-X/if-versus-then-Y thing generally.

@@tylerhavener2524 that’s great

Evolve had the system, it proved to be a hard system to implement supposedly in certain gamemodes though

@@rainbowhero8132 because evolve was a micro transaction hell hole that was designed to milk the player, not provide them with a quality experience

I think you're thinking of a different game...

6:56 this was already enough trolling lol

Versus what??

@@opdeathgun4897 Versus

But then it’s campaign versus versus Versus survival versus but then the other versus’es!

@@Emoji_smile_gaming4687 VERSUS WHAT?

versus

Yeah, I was about to say, all the things pointed out about the mall are just Director variations. I’ve gotten the bottom path on Versus paths before, but it’s rare

Yeah, seeing them compare verses and campaign paths like they’re separate things confused me since I’ve had both paths in either campaign or verses

People spammed those two, and yeah, was awful

I think the reason for that is because it cuts off the multiple of Lines survivors will say now cuz the last stand update brought in new once’s So I think there trying to make sure that people are new to the game can hear something new instead of laughs and taunts constantly all game in versus

@@Mrnoobestreturns it'd be pretty jarring for new players to join a versus game and then hear "HAHA- HAHA- Yeah- HAHA- HAHA- Your mom's car."

@@jockeyfield1954 yep clearly

maybe somebody of who created "the last standing" rosick so much and prefer disable laughs and taunts in versus

Damn right

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no it don't, its just that the default lerp is 100ms.

Versus jockeys: butterfingers.

To be fair I did notice because All the changes versus did basically made sure survivors or infected are balanced and that there not way to OP

some changes in versus were added in the Last Stand update

@@humgg6298 yep

That actually can happen on Solo too, I've had that happen a couple of times.

That's completely random in campaign.

It's always beautiful when an AI Boomer intentionally jumps off a high place just to inflict bile on everybody. That's an actual strategy they chose lol

@@twilightmoon96JERONIMOOOO

Degenerate

last stand my ass, how tf they have got valve's permission to publish this update with such stupid changes, like unlocking css weapons

Lol that's what Bill says whenever you try to ignore downed/incap teammate. It's hilarious.

Same here, I have 1500hrs, and I recently got back to L4D2 and I was confused why some of the voice commands don't work. A lot of people seem to like the Last Stand update, but I straight hate it.

for me its good its blocked i hate people spamming these voices stuff and stopping the game dialogue it break my immersion, laughing screaming and all that its annoying not fun. the correct change for me is to allow laughing but have cooldown so u can't spam it. all voice overs should have a cooldown and if someone is spamming u could mute they vocalyzer.

@@gabrielandy9272 I don't like it, to me if you want to have a story go to campaing, no one in versus goes there to hear the characters talk about how they are now broke because they spent all their money on NFT, it just makes the game more generic, survivors don't laugh, shortcuts that had a risk are now removed, and the game feels more generic to me, you are controlling some guys who can't express their emotions, I can somewhat agree on the cooldown thing, but I also can't because one of the most funny things that happened to me in l4d2 is hearing Nick laughing while being charged off a cliff, that doesn't happend anymore, the funny shit people used to make by cutting story dialogs was out of this world to me, a whole community of stuff, gone in an update, replaced by just competitiveness in a game that isn't even competitive, I have wrote a lot, but this game was trully the one I loved, and it saddens me to be bored of it now that is just another shooter A to B for me...

@@1337Ox A lot of the fixes where necesary, some shorcuts where broken and had to go, some other shortcuts where actually 🤓risky to pull off since if the infected team focused on it, they would probably incap or kill a survi because they didn't use it properly, now the game is more linear than it used to be, it's still a wonderful game don't get me wrong, but long are the days of "GET IT O- HAAHAHAAAHA, GET IT GET IT! HAJAJAJA, THE FREAKING TANK IS your mom's car, ajajajajaa"

@@rsho3472 its cause each person have they own tastes, i want hear the dialogues every game mode, i play for me its ok, i do wish they did let people still laugh but the devs did not do this, i would prefer if they did cooldown instead. so that way everyone could be happy its better then be disabled.

same lmao. and i got 5k hours on this game

Yeah. In Campaign, the Tank has from 2,000 to 13,000 hp depending of the difficulty and if is Realism.

@@Maxi-Gonz. 13,000? i think is 8000 but i could be wrong.

@@vratti2236 8k is normal expert, expert realism would be 13k or so

@@CrnaStrela He has 8000 in Expert, Realism doesn’t change his HP, it just gives him damage resistance to guns.

they should remove it on campaing tooo but the crybabys would complain cause they want bugs and exploits.

Oh no! You can’t cheat anymore! You can’t hold the lobby hostage anymore! Now you actually have to play the game properly! The horror!

I'm pretty sure that has been fixed. It just overwrites your current ammunition type.

Theres a workshop mod that does that