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Can 3D Printing Replace Metal? It's Complicated.

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You hear the term "Metal Replacement" tossed around a lot when it comes to high temperature 3D printing thermoplastics like PEEK and ULTEM but what does this term actually mean? Are these plastics perfect substitutes for metal? Well not quite. In this video, Rob and Cole take their years of 3D printing experience and evaluate the term metal replacement.
At Vision Miner, we specialize in Functional 3D printing and 3D Scanning, especially using high-performance plastics like PEEK, ULTEM, PPSU, PPS, CFPA, and more. If you're interested in using functional 3D printing and materials in your business, feel free to reach out, and we can help you make the right choice for your application.
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@oxtx9885 2 года назад

People do seem to mix up specific-strength with raw strength. PEEK is a great material, but has 1/3 the tensile strength of 6061 aluminum, which isn't even a super high performance alloy. Often times, if you have the space, you can replace a metal part with a far thicker plastic part. You save weight but lose volume.

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

Agreed!

@vladomie 2 года назад

"the future of slicers" - do it, please.

@lio1234234 2 года назад

100% slicers with 5 axis support.

@Leviathan3DPrinting 2 года назад

I've been saying we need warp compensation in slicers ever since I saw that video. Glad to see others would like this functionality as well.

@prozix3d 2 года назад

Please do mechanical and physical testing for 3d printed PEEK and ULTEM parts.

@lemonsquareFPV 2 года назад

The warp compensation on the 3D printed rockets will be so welcome in the plastic space, there is some software in development I am keeping my eye on and excited about. Love the content 👍🏻

@garyhsk8 2 года назад

I am working at NASA always looking to learn more about generative design so the agency can take advantage of its hyper optimization abilities. I learn a lot from your videos so thankyou for that. I would love to watch an episode of you guys on the topic of generative design!

@Dwarfgrinder 2 года назад

I printed my old lathe gears with 100% fill PLA. Works great. Got to have set for very fine feed that i didn't have access to before. Hasn't broken yet and if it does I just print another one. OH and its way quieter.

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

Good stuff!

@Addimotive 9 месяцев назад

One of the biggest hold-ups I’ve seen with high temperature/engineering-grade thermoplastics trying to replace metals (mostly aluminum) in the aerospace industry is the issue of creep fatigue / fatigue life in general over time if the part is even slightly loaded.

@AmixLiark Месяц назад

This issue could defintely be remedied by introcing fabric every few layers; the way they do to make fabrics that you can stitch into to clothing.

@Sigmatechnica 2 года назад

Slicing needs to be fully integrated into the CAD process fomr the start. also needs to make way more use of the Z axis to print curved surfacts, clearence of the nozel allowing. unfortunatly these developments will both take a long time to come about, and may never do so for hobby machines. Looking forward to your slicing video!

@beez1598 2 года назад

Agreed! I think teaching tech had a video with non planar printing, for more of a “proof of concept” type of print it was pretty neat, but required a lot of manual gcode manipulation and some praying for no collision!

@St0RM33 2 года назад

@@beez1598 i did actually try it on my mk3s and it works nicely, however you need an extruder with extended nozzle and modified cooling ducts to give enough clearance for big delta Z movements

@markthompson5983 2 года назад

Can you do a video that explains what exactly happens to cause warping?

@ToysToolsandTales 2 года назад

Have you two geniuses thought about doing a follow up to the filament breakdown video. One of my favorite ones I've watch. It was what I used to get a lot of the knowledge I picked up going into 3d printing. Love you guys I just wish I was savy enough and had the funds to get my own vision minor setup. Keep them coming we love to see it! My favorite part was when you said is plastic as stronge as metal think about that question lol. Can't wait for the next video.

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

We definitely have some stuff in the works :)

@nonsquid 2 года назад

When I worked at a car plant, we replaced the metal roller chain guide wheels in the overhead conveyor with plastic resin poured wheels that lasted longer, and they didn't broach cut the metal drive tube.

@cody7135 Год назад

1:26 best statement I have heard. I recently learned this the hard way. Made something from pc and it failed at layers, made same part from pa cf and going strong. Didn't try pc cf yet.

@GogebicYooper 2 года назад

Hey guys. I watched this video and then watched your 2019 vid on 'Hobbyist vs. Industrial.' I think you have a niche that will become more important over the short term(five years.) This is discussing the relationship between the capabilities, equipment, and medium for the hobbyist vs. industrial. My sense is that these 'capability' trends will continue to converge. It would be particularly interesting for you to periodically address this trend. Thanks for your productions.

@kevenc 2 года назад

The same concepts (to a point) apply to aluminum vs steel. Aluminum is not as strong (by weight) as steel for the same shape, but what you can do is use a larger tube size or other geometry that takes advantage of the properties of aluminum vs steel. This is how they make aluminum bikes that are as strong as steel bikes but lighter.

@gregorylent 2 года назад

cool facial expression on the thumbnail

@valent_t Год назад

Shipping again from Ukraine, did I hear that right? You have a manufacturing facility in Ukraine?

@LANPOCALYPSE Год назад

I have an artificial disc in my neck that has plates made from PEEK that has Titanium imbedded on the sides that need to bond with bone.

@Bart_Depestele Год назад

Links on your website are not working? 'Learn more' buttons

@LoveItDirtyOffroad 2 года назад

My Luna E-bike had the option to come with a peek drive gear, I went with steel because I heard it has failed when hot

@sportsmansalvagecompanyinc7932 Год назад

You mentioned chemical resistance. What would I use 3d print a gasoline tank?

@notan... 2 года назад

Can you recommend any reputable 3D printing services for prototyping in these materials?

@user-yk1cw8im4h 2 года назад

Printing stuff layer by layer will never replace cast metal as de-lamination will always be a thing

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

In general, we'd agree, but I think with material science and material development going as it is, we might actually get there someday -- PCTG, for example, is essentially modified PETG, and has nearly isotropic layer adhesion -- 97% or so -- and it's amazing. I would imagine that as time goes on, we'll see similar developments with other materials, and eventually get past the de-lamination issues.

@rexxx927 2 года назад

could you show use the diffrences in a liquifier tube head vs a nozzle heater block and it flows in relation

@rexxx927 2 года назад

i would like to see data on 1.75mm filament liqufiers comparisions for high temp resins vs the heater blocks size vs maximum flow and minimal ooze is the ideal heater zone 20mm or 40mm or 60mm long and what thermal mass is best for that heater to flow rate vs heater block mass

@rixxxer5460 2 года назад

mild steel is definatelly not used in aerospace or aviation lol

@ayatotakema1194 2 года назад

Hello. can you guys make a comparison video of all the CF filled filament you guys offer on your website?

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

We are in the process of doing an in depth comparison between a lot of our materials we offer including the CF filled ones.

@HiLeeHighly 2 года назад

Impossible

@steve5nash Год назад

It's complicated means no

@user-yk1cw8im4h 2 года назад

just print metal … replace metal is just as dumb as replacing plastic with metal…

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

A lot of the time, it's a necessity, like on satellites and aircraft -- whatever the reason, it could be to reduce weight, get radio-transparency, or take advantage of some kind of chemical resistance -- so, like say, much of the time it's better to use metal, but there are a lot of applications that cannot :)

@WillofNewZealand 2 года назад

Hi. Are you ready? Im embarking on a 3d print comunity challenge. Name legit print farms. How to show they are legit? A hidden camera for youtube would be entertaining. To sell a 3d print the farm checks licenses and pays royalty to the actual licensed thing owner. Owners payment shows. Easy. Failure to license check and pay required royalty is piracy. Pirate farms being closed is a big gain for the honest comunities value jobs and businesses. Now lets see, Name the legit farms? Show the hidden camera footage?

@WillofNewZealand 2 года назад

Harsh sounding now i read it back. But im making a vid and this is the subject. Inside a week. Im a big fan and have always seen great intergretty from Vision Minor. But to fair all round im posting my harsh challenge about. Actual hidden footage aint required. Just saying of course we would license check a walk in customer thing file if we are to sell a print of it. If a royalty applied we would pay it as commercial gain from that thing sale. Consult with the customer if its a billion dollars a print to sell and if the customer buys print royalties also got paid. No big secret camera scene required to stand as a legit farm. Mentioned in a youtube would be the hence platform. I wish you nice success. Be well from Will and Mr Data :):]

@josephKEOarthur 2 года назад

Would it work with a Makerbot MethodX [heated chamber and heated bed]

@kapplionkai2586 2 года назад

Define you question more specific. If you mean is it possible to print peek on a method X. Basically yes, but from what i now software will prevent you.

@VisionMiner 2 года назад

I believe the biggest issue would be the lower temperature of the heated bed (we print at 160+) and the extruder (do they have an extruder surpassing 300ºC yet? We print at 400-450+)