Can a meat eater and a vegan agree in a debate?

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@ed.winters 5 месяцев назад

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@komasaeufer 5 месяцев назад

Stop causing crop deaths when you can eat animal cruelty free food. You're not a vegan, but a hypocrite.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

"Who taught me to disrespect animals and view them as mere commodities? Who stole my compassion, my empathy, and my conscience? Who lied to me? Who instilled this vicious mindset of human-to-animal exploitation as standard operating procedure?" ---- Gary Yourofsky.

@LouisGedo 5 месяцев назад

*2024...............Year of the Vegan Activist* 🏆

@seandavid288 5 месяцев назад

@@LouisGedo whatever makes you feel better but reality is in the end it doesn’t matter. Your virtue signaling is strong!

@LouisGedo 5 месяцев назад

@@seandavid288 Once you get off your psychotropic meds, then come back here and make a comment. 👍 👍 👍 Until then, I see no reason to take you seriously

@Patrick-yc3tf 5 месяцев назад

We’re at a stage where meat eaters acknowledges the problem instead of complete denial. Awareness works

@maxmcintyre5068 5 месяцев назад

Meat and dairy for me

@NicoHeinrich 5 месяцев назад

You obviously have to be somewhat intelligent to acknowledge the issue 😅

@komasaeufer 5 месяцев назад

I acknowledge the problem and don't give a sh*t. I love meat, eggs, cheese, yoghurt. Love it so much, I'm never gonna be vegan even though you guys are right.

@willakana3369 5 месяцев назад

Brainwashed by the industry commercials.

@willakana3369 5 месяцев назад

It’s how addicts think. The industry got you hooked bad.

@tahmidt 5 месяцев назад

Holy fuck almost had me in tears this video, to hear someone being this intellectually and emotionally honest, admitting one's behavior is wrong without trying to justify it. Quite an introspective guy, just needed a little nudge. Wish the best for him in the future.

@kattihatt 5 месяцев назад

@Trey-qz8seis that an argument?

@conall5434 5 месяцев назад

@Trey-qz8se learning to read still?

@RK-nq3fj 5 месяцев назад

@Trey-qz8seNo worries about your English. Can you explain the connection between narcissism and having an experience?

@RK-nq3fj 5 месяцев назад

@Trey-qz8se I’m just trying to understand since your previous comment didn’t have this context, Who mentioned “As someone who is X”?

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

That's sad.

@TheELQOL 5 месяцев назад

Wholesome, open, curious, and honest guest

@JakeLD22 5 месяцев назад

cruious? the guy is a wearing a face diaper

@humanerror7 5 месяцев назад

Definitely one of the more open minded people you've interviewed

@humanerror7 5 месяцев назад

@@chrisf2952 nope!

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

No people just aren’t aware of how dangerous being vegan is. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements.

@markj7612 5 месяцев назад

Earthling Ed is a first-rate advocate for veganism. Well done.

@seandavid288 5 месяцев назад

Also a first rate clown

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely. He’s reinvigorated my Veganness

@tinyjungle_ 5 месяцев назад

I disagree. I think twirking for dollars on the internet while criticizing other activists and doing an occasional online debate is way more effective.

@blondey3261 5 месяцев назад

@@tinyjungle_ 😄

@justveganfacts 5 месяцев назад

I'm so vegan I read that as 'first-rate avocado' 😂

@a.k.salazr 5 месяцев назад

It’s refreshing to see someone who is not a narcissist student full of himself. It opens up an actual intelligent discussion

@Reeceisinpieces 5 месяцев назад

Rare for sure

@namenloserflo 5 месяцев назад

It isn't a discussion if one participant basically agrees on all the opposing arguments. This student doesn't seem that smart and probably hasn't really thought about the concept of veganism ever before. Why would he even participate if he doesn't have anything to add?

@namenloserflo 5 месяцев назад

It's not an intelligent discussion it's more like a one sided lecture

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

99% of vegans are massive narcissist and judge everyone else.

@AM70764 5 месяцев назад

@@namenloserflo I mean, when discussing this subject, if there is no bad argument from denial it often is a one-sided lecture

@chantelleknott8211 5 месяцев назад

yes I was one of that people that never ever in my whole life thought i would go Vegan, I've eaten meat and love dairy for 38years, and over night i became a vegan.. (its a month now❤) And i really wished I've known all the information I know now when i was a child.. my life would be so different.. but at least i know now.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

Congratulations. I also thought the same for the first 21 years of my Life and didn’t learn what Vegan was so started with Vegetarian, over night. Then once I saw those Vegan documentaries, it was over. Glad I made the choice 🙏🏾

@tinyjungle_ 5 месяцев назад

Be careful. I've been vegan 10 years but I died 5 years ago because of some magical nutrient I was missing. I should have listened to the carnivores.

@GarudaLegends 5 месяцев назад

Lol. Neat eaters lives vasly longer than vegans and have the best life expectancy. Enjoy your deficiencies and supplements- while you can.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

@@tinyjungle_ 😂😂😂😂😂

@RussellB 5 месяцев назад

"You memorized all this?" buddy has no idea lol

@pegbuckner5074 5 месяцев назад

Haha 😂 exactly!!

@lukenysen 5 месяцев назад

I really appreciate how the interviewee is so genuine about his view and considers all these new ideas without getting defensive. I hope he takes the seed of thought home and lets it grow into something much bigger.

@Zalamandar 2 месяца назад

What's amazing is you can see how uncomfortable he is too, but he pushes through it

@xochitl_200 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Pablo for being so kind and open 🫶🏼 vegan for the animals always 🍉🍉🍉

@rondarkman. 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@Idkwhatsup333 5 месяцев назад

is it just me or am I noticing that as time goes on people are becoming more and more open minded to discuss veganism & be open to it. It think it also has something to do with the state of the world right now & people are just naturally waking up. Maybe it’s just me but it’s just a personal observation

@shiva_the_infinite 5 месяцев назад

🤞🏻😌

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

20 years ago even "hardcore" animal rights groups like Peta were mainly just talking about vegetarianism (and 40 years ago Peta were giving out awards to "humane" meat suppliers). The world is slowly heading in the right direction.

@Unmasking_Viandalisme 5 месяцев назад

The "Western" world is being collapsed & V won't save it.

@Planet-Bees 5 месяцев назад

5yrs in the V space & not impressed. Sis. me & the😺😸boys all enjoyed chicken, today. Ed is an intellectual lightweight..🙄

@kattihatt 5 месяцев назад

@@Planet-Beeswhere is the argument youre trying to make? Youre not "impressed"? I mean comeon.

@jamescollura 5 месяцев назад

Every vegan is an animal rights advocate - that's a bridge to 99% of the population. We all agree dogs should have rights - we need to honestly assess the disparity between the rights of dogs and the rights of pigs. Its HUGE. A pig is just as intelligent, and has some different facial and physical features, but is EQUALLY as capable of having an experience and feeling pain

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

Of course. The same thing also applies to fish, btw. As explained in the bestselling book "What a Fish Knows", by the biologist Jonathan Balcombe.

@TheSilverSloth 5 месяцев назад

Yeah the cognitive dissonance is real! Pigs are such intelligent and compassionate creatures!

@Cheximus 5 месяцев назад

@@JohnDoe-s3v2v I don't think you can put a tuna or a salmon on the same level as a pig or a dog...

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

@@Cheximus You are wrong. Dozens of university departments have studied this topic, doing animal behaviour experiments on fish. Fish experience the full range of cognitive and emotional states. Jealousy, curiosity, depression, aggression, you name it. Instead of assuming that fish are less aware than mammals, go off and read that book, which provides all the references, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

@kattihatt 5 месяцев назад

@@PrimarchLorgar the food the animals eat, how is that grown?

@jasonnehceis3267 5 месяцев назад

I am convinced that this good man, with his good heart, compassion, zero egotism, will go vegan sooner rather than later. He is a good egg! GREAT job as always Ed... You rock brother!

@elenasingleterry5854 5 месяцев назад

He’s a good vegan egg 🥰

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@elenasingleterry5854 5 месяцев назад

@@tommypower3657 yet another instance when a person who is not vegan telling long-time vegans that it’s not possible to be vegan🤣 There are even people in the US who were brought up vegan from birth by vegan parents, and who then grew up vegan and then went on to raise vegan children. And still, even these people (!) get to hear from meat-eaters that “people are designed to get nutrients from animals.”🤣 Man, you can’t make this stuff up P.s. You wrote that humans aren’t omnivores - while that’s literally what the SCIENCE classifies them as. Seriously, why write on a topic that you don’t just know anything about, you can’t even bother to look up the very terms you’re using to “unmask” the “illegitimacy” of veganism😂

@annala2956 5 месяцев назад

Nice, respectful guy. Love it when people acknowledge Ed's incontrovertible arguments

@joedusel 5 месяцев назад

LOL, many vegans wish they had gone vegan sooner? So, I am not the only one kicking myself in the ass for not going vegan decades before I did?

@meateaterscringe9863 5 месяцев назад

I think that is majority of the vegans.

@markrieke8753 5 месяцев назад

Seem like most vegans I know wish they had gone sooner, including me, even though it’s been 20 years

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Many vegans are going to wish they never went vegan. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

I don’t think you do really want that as you could possibly be dead by then or just very sick. We’re not herbivores or omnivores because plants are missing many nutrients and animal foods have every nutrient. An omnivore would need to have both to survive but we don’t need both. As carnivores we cannot just take synthetic supplements and expect to be healthy it’s just impossible sorry to say. You will get sick in a matter of time. This is your warning.

@joedusel 5 месяцев назад

@@tommypower3657 sadly I am an animal lover, so I am stuck with a vegan diet until the bitter end. Thanks for the warning Tommy, but unfortunately science shows that a plant based diet is not only better for our animal friends, it is much healthier, and statistically eating more beans, grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, veggies and fruit has been shown to make people live longer. All the best.

@marcdeneus977 5 месяцев назад

This guy Ed is a rock. Well spoken. Non-comabative. This is what Veganism Outreach Is all about. We have to appreciate the Interviewee's honesty. Hope he makes the switch.

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

Best example of how to have discourse as a Vegan. I’ve been taking so many notes

@donacatanguma 5 месяцев назад

@@rasrawjourney Ed has two books you can check out for tactics. I agree that his debating style is outstanding. I love how he never denigrates anyone and always stays so calm.

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

@@donacatanguma I’m listening to How To Argue With A Meat Eater on Spotify right now. I’ve loved it so much that I’m about 75% of the way through. I started just last week. Been binging on his videos too. I’m gonna get a physical copy of the book to as well as his first book. This is really In-Spiring me to become more of a vocal advocate, both here on RU-vid with my own channel and in person. I’ve already started with having conversations with friends and family more and it’s been going well. I’m so grateful for the work he is doing and I look forward to sharing it with my community. At the end of the day, animal agriculture hurts everyone and Veganism benefits everyone.

@piaogilvie8463 5 месяцев назад

What a great conversation. Two nice, intelligent guys debating in a friendly manner just put a smile on my face. 💚🐽💚

@AF-mk6zr 5 месяцев назад

Such a joy to watch! This guy seems really kind and open minded. Always admire Ed for his intelligence and compassion. The future is vegan!

@TheShree909 4 месяца назад

Nope. Your gut loved plants. We are omnivires but majority plant based diet @@tommypower3657

@AF-mk6zr Месяц назад

@@tommypower3657 thanks for taking the time to watch his video, you must have found it very interesting

@taniakrause9253 5 месяцев назад

I turned vegan three years ago, before that I was a vegetarien for 37 years. I became a vegetarien when I was 10 years old. So luckily I can't even remenber how meat tastes like. I don' t miss a thing. I love all animals, so I don't eat them, it's as simple as that ! Greetings from Germany 🙋

@komari3339 5 месяцев назад

W germany ❤

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@jpjulia4395 5 месяцев назад

It's good to know there are some decent, honest people out there. Hopefully, he'll think on that conversation, show some integrity and act on it, and go vegan. Excellent work as always Ed 💚

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

I really hope he doesn’t because it will ruin his life. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@sabrinastrauch2950 5 месяцев назад

Pablo is very nice and good listening and understanding. Good job. 💚

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

You are his mum ?

@sabrinastrauch2950 5 месяцев назад

@@tom4412 nein. 😂 Das ist mir nur aufgefallen, im Gegensatz zu den vielen anderen in Eds Debatte Videos. 💚🌱

@a.k.salazr 5 месяцев назад

I said that too at one point “I would never go vegan” “veganism is extreme” 10 years vegan now. Once you realize that you either you are a sociopath/psychopath or you are a hypocrite if you eat meat, you have to make face the truth

@GarudaLegends 5 месяцев назад

Lol. Meat eaters live longer. Have fun eating crappy rabbit good and supplements

@RextheRebel 5 месяцев назад

Im proudly a sociopath then.

@seandavid288 5 месяцев назад

Speak for yourself ya dunce

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely right. 👍👍👍👍👍

@soilikasanen 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, my conscience forced me to go vegan over 6 years ago when I ran out of excuses - and as a creative person, I had a lot of them! Just wish I'd made the connection sooner.

@red_rose_redemption 5 месяцев назад

That was great, good on him for acknowledging right and wrong.

@miruosz4504 5 месяцев назад

what a wholesome guy

@Idkwhatsup333 5 месяцев назад

truly lol

@John.anti-carnist 5 месяцев назад

future vegan for sure.

@WillowQuesnel 5 месяцев назад

I ❤ Pablo - he is so honest, caring and kind. Often when you debate people who eat an omnivorous diet they are angry and defensive. So, watching this is so refreshing 🙏🏻 😊

@shanasoileau9724 5 месяцев назад

Refreshing to witness his open mindedness.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

It’s because he doesn’t know any better. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@shanasoileau9724 5 месяцев назад

@@tommypower3657 I believe it you who doesn't know any better, sadly. We are not designed to get our nutrients through animal food alone because they do not include all of the nutrients we need. As far as supplements, due to the stripping of agriculture soil over the centuries, we ALL need to supplement certain things if we're deficient. It doesn't typically occur if we're eating a diverse diet, not based on processed junk or fast foods OR just one food type alone. That is what is stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@shanasoileau9724 very ignorant you are. You got animal foods mixed up with plant foods. Plant foods are missing many nutrients. Animal foods have every nutrient. Name one nutrient not found in animal foods?

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@shanasoileau9724 carnivores cannot just take plant/synthetic supplements and expect to be all good. It ridiculous you think we can.

@shreyaaashree 5 месяцев назад

We all support you Ed!! Keep going! I love how you debate with meat-eaters in a very intellectual and non-attacking manner (attacking manner is not wrong when is needed) but anyways, we are with you and rooting for you! also I love how that guy was so understanding and not defensive! I listened to you and said he'll try to make the change!

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

I think attacking is the wrong mannner because if the point is to help people understand, that will never work. If someone is literally harming an animal or another person, then defense is necessary

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

I definitely don’t support him. I actually despise what he is doing. He is going against god towards Satan. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@evab6896 5 месяцев назад

Thumbs up for you Ed! Vegan up! 💚🌱

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@evab6896 5 месяцев назад

@@tommypower3657 science has already proven you wrong. Sorry for you 😊

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@evab6896 too bad you have fallen for fake science over nature. I feel bad for you.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@evab6896 you realise there is a lot of scientific study’s that are not correct. What you’re trying to claim right now is ridiculous. The fact vegans need to take supplements proves we’re carnivores. And sorry to say this but plant/synthetic supplements do not work for carnivores. Also this science you talk about against nature. You really believe some fake science over nature.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@evab6896 th

@Jeff-j6d 5 месяцев назад

Not by getting into people's faces, not by storming restaurants etc but a calm civilised intelligent conversation is in my opinion the best way to reach people who consume meat to go Vegan.. it worked for me.. ❤

@alexs.5871 5 месяцев назад

if we didn't have the former we most likely wouldn't have the latter either. or people wouldn't take them seriously at least. aggressive activists shift the overton window to make less aggressive activists seem 'reasonable' where without the aggressive activists they would be viewed as extremists. That is pretty much how it's gone with every social justice movement in the history of social justice movements. also, different strokes for different folks, just because you vent vegan because of a calm debate/conversation doesn't mean everybody gets to veganism in the same way. we need all forms of activism (excluding bigoted shit like whatever the fuck tvt is doing, of course).

@Jeff-j6d 5 месяцев назад

The self righteous aggressive form of activism is notorious for having the opposite effect.. that's just plain facts..

@alexs.5871 5 месяцев назад

@@Jeff-j6d Do you have any proof for that claim?

@nerida3347 5 месяцев назад

I went vegan because I saw someone on Reddit mentioning they were and I asked why they were and they explained to me nicely and thoroughly. I am a firm believer that an open and respectful conversation yields the best results

@alexs.5871 5 месяцев назад

@@nerida3347 but do you have any actual proof of that? Again, different strokes for different folks. How many of those people Ed has such a nice conversation with would even know the term 'veganism' , let alone the concept if more aggressive activists and organisations like PETA (whos' said and done a lot of shit, which im not denying) hadnt spent decades being in people's faces about it?

@galkinp 5 месяцев назад

Thats the question that got me vegan 4 years ago ..Is taste (pleasure) more important than their life..

@platoschauvet 5 месяцев назад

me too! four years ago! 😁

@RextheRebel 5 месяцев назад

Yes.

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

Yes because we need micronutrients from meat. Which you can't get anything from a vegan diet.

@galkinp 5 месяцев назад

@@Nickh4929 you clearly know what you're claiming.. I won't listen to Dr Greger anymore or all the sources in forks over knives, what the health, game changer...

@platoschauvet 5 месяцев назад

@@Nickh4929 Everyone has the possibility for nutrient deficiency and inefficiency, for instance most people could use more vitamin d and magnesium, but thanks to folks like you, vegans tend to be on top of their game with making sure we get everything we need. Especially when first switching we tend to be hyperaware of the fact that people are always saying you're gonna have nutrient deficiencies, so we take the necessary supplements and get our blood work done (mine's been stellar so far though). Most omnivores don't even think about it, and just assume they're getting everything they need, so it actually puts us at an advantage in some ways just by virtue of our paying more attention to it (on average) and putting in the effort to make sure we're getting what we need.

@NicoHeinrich 5 месяцев назад

You can tell immediately that this guy is smart 🙏

@davesims7917 5 месяцев назад

Wearing a mask would actually make me think exact opposite

@alexs.5871 5 месяцев назад

@@davesims7917 long-covid can actually negatively impact your brain and long-term your mental facilities. People who wear masks are less likely to get covid and people who are vaxxed are less likely to get long-covid, so reality is actually pretty much diametrically opposed to your opinion. But im sure that's not the first time you've been in that situation :)

@davesims7917 5 месяцев назад

@@alexs.5871 with a response like that I’m sure you’re already on your 8th booster so good luck with everything… You’re going to need it

@tahmidt 5 месяцев назад

@@davesims7917 I’ve worn a mask for a long time to avoid breathing dust.

@namenloserflo 5 месяцев назад

Which one?

@frankieslounge 5 месяцев назад

Everybody please compare this interview with the one with the guy at Yale

@shreyaaashree 5 месяцев назад

ikkkk😂😂😂

@SSStofu008 5 месяцев назад

The shirt less one you mean 😂 😂😂

@frankieslounge 5 месяцев назад

@@SSStofu008 Exactly

@SSStofu008 5 месяцев назад

@@frankieslounge 😭😭😭

@dodgeball693 5 месяцев назад

What a genuine, sweet natured young man! I can honestly seeing him go vegan in the future 😊

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

You hate god don’t you? We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@prieten49 5 месяцев назад

Once I decided to give up meat (thanks to watching these college quad debates with Ed Winters), I had no desire for meat. I don't even have a desire for those plant-based look-alike substitutes for meat. Plant-based foods have all the tastes I look forward to at mealtime. My one disappointment is that after an initial weightloss, my body adjusted and now I have returned to where I have to watch my weight. But morally, I know I have made the right choice for the animals, my health, and the environment.

@geneherald8169 5 месяцев назад

meat is healthy. You've been misinformed. I find it hard to believe someone can eat a piece of liver and say that meat is unhealthy. You literally feel it.

@emilyschmidt4106 5 месяцев назад

@@geneherald8169 they didn't say that meat in general is unhealthy. But you can also live healthy without meat if you do it right ^^

@akhusal 5 месяцев назад

Plant agriculture is destroying the soil and drying up rivers. Replacing rich woodland with vast monocultures of palm oil which is devoid of nutrients. I don't get the philosophy either saying eating animals is bad? Then why do you hate plants so much that you have to kill them and eat them.

@meateaterscringe9863 5 месяцев назад

@@geneherald8169 When there are healthy plant options meat is unhealthier compared to them, but even if it was healthy, it is unethical to kill others for that reason.

@prieten49 5 месяцев назад

@@geneherald8169 Long term scientific study after long term scientific study shows that saturated fat and cholesterol increase your likelihood of getting cardiovascular disease and your mortality. But I am touched by your taking the time to come to this vegan website and express your opinion. Why did you feel compelled to comment here? Do you have this need to defend eating meat? Why?

@StarWonder 5 месяцев назад

No excuse for abuse!💙💙💙 💚🌱💚 Vegan for them! 🌱💚🌱

@mrbigsky7330 5 месяцев назад

The combine that cut your soy beans also killed every single animals on the surface that got in its way. The pesticides and herbicides killed the rest.

@artistsanomalous7369 5 месяцев назад

@@mrbigsky7330 Most of the crops we grow (including soy) are fed to livestock.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@artistsanomalous7369yeah and that should stop because it’s unnatural for the animals to eat that. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@davidiruya657 5 месяцев назад

The future is vegan :)

@markj7612 5 месяцев назад

It must be, or humanity will go extinct. Animal agriculture is the most destructive activity on earth. It's destroying the earth.

@thewhitedwarf3846 5 месяцев назад

only if good people let the predatory anti-human atheists bring about the NWO

@vthomas375 5 месяцев назад

'The future is full on': The future is no borders. No retarded, redundant and archaic concept of government and full exploration of the restricted areas (not forgetting the rain forest for potential plant cures) and vegan:)

@maxmcintyre5068 5 месяцев назад

Doubt it

@radislavkondic3458 5 месяцев назад

The future is carnivore.

@yogitabaviskar8900 5 месяцев назад

It is interesting to see perception of veganism from the West. In India where vegetarianism due to religion,i.e. Hinduism/Buddhism/Jainism was always prevalent, veganism still is in its nascent stage. While the concept of veganism rings true with the concept of Ahimsa,i.e non-violence, people here have forgotten that. Partly because of the social hierarcy,the caste system where vegetarianism somehow came to be associated with the upper caste and the atrocities they conducted on the lower caste. In terms of food, animals just became default source of food for the lower caste in the absence of land and access to food grown on these lands; much like slavery. And so, even today the divide definitely is still present and also exacerbated into the sphere of religion. While there are animal eating Hindus too, its mostly due to either the way meat is associated to a God/Godess or the geography they came from. Although, today, more and more people are able to afford food,have access to good food and thus,veganism can be easily adopted. But the centuries old baggage and the trauma just cant be overlooked either. For those who can, do and for those who cant, well,its like talking to a rock. There still is a lot of time for India to understand veganism is the true way of life. Especially, today when combined with everything else.

@Cancel_Carnism 5 месяцев назад

Great talk! Seeds were successfully planted here! Many thanks for your for your efforts, Ed! 🙌👍🌱👏

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Let’s hope the seeds get stomped on because otherwise his life could be ruined. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Let’s hope the seeds get stomped on because it will ruin his life. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@Alaskaventureswithbrodie 5 месяцев назад

So thankful for Ed. This young guy like most of us never thought of the animals while we ate meat. Something completely shift when you do 😢

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

I love how open he was and non-confrontational. This is the kind of person that can easily go Vegan. It’s those who try to defend so hard that have the hard time. I think if I had sat down with Ed anytime before I was Vegan, I would certainly be Vegan right after the conversation.

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

Veganism is a form of an eating disorder. Your missing more than 15 vital micronutrients.

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

Enjoy your starved diet. It's absolutely horrible and goes against being a human.

@KillersWalkFree 5 месяцев назад

There is no ethical justification for unnecessary animal cruelty. There are only excuses from people that lack empathy.

@seandavid288 5 месяцев назад

There is only one’s biological urge of survival of the fittest aka eat or be eaten…. All other BS is merely constructs of so called human intelligence.

@rondarkman. 5 месяцев назад

Cope princess

@KillersWalkFree 5 месяцев назад

@@rondarkman. I'd like to understand how you think. Are you insulting me because you hate vegans?

@rondarkman. 5 месяцев назад

@KillersWalkFree Lol no I find it hilarious the way vegans word things and carry on , considering for most of them, over 3/4 of their lives were consuming animal products

@mrbigsky7330 5 месяцев назад

Commercial ag kills far more animals per year per acre than anything. Ever watch a combine cut thru a field and kill rats snakes mice baby deer basically anything that gets in its way. Not to mention the pesticides and herbicides. Every single thing that lives above ground dies so you can get your soy beans.

@YourSoSeezy 5 месяцев назад

Question for all: I find alot of the time its hard to push somebody straight into veganism, morally you cant really argue it. However i never really hear the argument to move meat eaters towards a reduced meat diet could it not be beneficial to advise to move towards a more "sacred meat" diet where they only eat meat once a week or once every 2 weeks? From my personal experience i have found that friends and family are much more willing to cut down dramatically than move over cold turkey. i feel like if you could move a higher percentage of the population to that diet it would overall be more beneficial whilst we fully move to veganism over the decades.

@tiga4ka44 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, seems like a lot healthier approach, and much more effective

@pawe9391 5 месяцев назад

You are helping people to be free of an illusion, well done!

@Nickh4929 5 месяцев назад

Veganism is the only illusion, it doesn't exist in nature.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Mate the illusion is veganism. You have been fooled. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Veganism is the illusion mate. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements.

@jinro.f.t.a 5 месяцев назад

Such a nice and honest conversation

@jgoodwin977 5 месяцев назад

Beautiful chat! ❤

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@jgoodwin977 5 месяцев назад

@@tommypower3657 we only ate flesh if we had to for survival, as it was dangerous to hunt. Now we don’t need to as we live in abundance. It’s an absolute myth you need supplements. All nutrients needed can be found in plant based foods, which is why it’s now a moral issue to take others lives when we don’t need to. Biologically, we’re actually closer linked to a herbivore design, hence we thrive as vegans and have champion athletes. Btw supplements do work, hence they’re such a huge industry, nothing magical about it. You can easily over dose on vitamin D for example. Not sure why you’re referring to what we did in the past when we’re in the present now under different circumstances and therefore what we use to do is now redundant. I understand that you think you’re a lion, but you’re very wrong. We need fibre, or we’ll get very sick. Maybe you’re just joking, coz that’s a sure fire way to heart problems. I’ve never put dead flesh in my mouth and I’m in my 40s fit as a fiddle and I’m certainly not a minority. Not sure what world you’re living in, but it’s not reality if you actually believe that. Dogs can live healthy plant based if planned well, but that’s a completely different subject as we’re not dogs! Please take a biology lesson before you hurt yourself and don’t reply as I really don’t want to talk to someone that thinks they’re a lion! 🙈

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@jgoodwin977 first off you’re wrong. Plants are missing many nutrients. I don’t think I need to name them out, you can just search it up if you want. Fiber is not essential and is why it is not considered a nutrient. Fiber is the part of the plant that we cannot digest 😂. The reason it makes you have constant bowel movements is because it’s your body trying to flush it out. It also makes you bloated, gassy, constipated. Of course we should remember our natural diet and continue eating that way because it is how are still alive today. When did I say I thought I was a lion. I said we are carnivores like a lion as we cannot survive off just plants like a lion cannot either. And no you can’t just start feeding a carnivore plant/synthetic supplements because we need animal nutrients. And yes I know the pharmaceutical industry’s are massive because humans have been brainwashed to believe in it. Thats the only reason.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@jgoodwin977 do you think if something is a huge industry that it means it’s good for us 😂😂😂😂

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

@@jgoodwin977 you even believe we can feed a dog a plant based diet. Do you not see how ignorant you are

@philiptaylor7902 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Ed for your calm, non-judgmental advocacy.

@Father_Veteran_Gamer_Artist 5 месяцев назад

Everybody. Yeee-ah. Save a body. Yeee-ah. Vegan life, alright!

@sophieh6215 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely love how respectful and polite you are whilst also so articulate and honest. What you do Ed is so important!

@markj7612 5 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@kazukimoto12 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the inspiration!

@NoMoreTears4All 5 месяцев назад

We are a strange breed, us humans.😢

@GarudaLegends 5 месяцев назад

You are only alive because of meat eaters

@DarkDeepGreen 5 месяцев назад

🌱

@FamilyFreedom 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Ed! Great job as always 🌱

@writerchik44 5 месяцев назад

#VeganForLife ❤

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

#Vegansgoingtoendyourlife We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

#veganismwillruinyourlife We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements

@pegbuckner5074 5 месяцев назад

Awesome 👏🏻 Thank you, Ed for turning me vegan over two years ago! With that one statement: “Is your taste pleasure more important than an animal’s entire existence??” Boom 💥

@martinkevin4827 5 месяцев назад

Awesome debate , good to see you back in the chair .

@agadooska 5 месяцев назад

Nice to see a nice guy being interviewed for a change 💚

@KimLee-w5w 5 месяцев назад

It just all makes sense! So many amazing Vegan foods!

@ClouduSan 5 месяцев назад

This guy was very honest, he already made the connection and now just needs to realize it's much much easier than it seems to be vegan and he's there!

@rahtsnake144 5 месяцев назад

i smell a pre-vegan! ❤

@thewhitedwarf3846 5 месяцев назад

Is it the body odor that gives it away?

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

@@thewhitedwarf3846 Given how bad omnivore women taste, the meat crowd is in no position to make jokes about unpleasant bodies.

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

No girl, that’s your pants, please change them tomorrow

@GarudaLegends 5 месяцев назад

And a future ex vegan

@meateaterscringe9863 5 месяцев назад

@@GarudaLegends Why do you think he would be future ex vegan?

@rayrayisfruity 16 дней назад

Been vegan for 6 years now. Your videos were the primary catalyst that moved me to make the change. You (and other vegan activists) genuinely changed my mind and I’ll never look back. There’s no way to quantify how much influence you’ve had in the growing vegan movement, but I can tell you it’s a hell of a lot. You’re making a difference. The animals, the planet and our collective future are going to be that much better because of what you do, Ed. Thank you sincerely ❤

@ChrisW-ib2kh 5 месяцев назад

Brilliant Ed 👏👏👏

@Mike-hn7vc 5 месяцев назад

Nice to see an honest person have an honest conversation

@MichaelToub 5 месяцев назад

Great Video!

@YeahWhoaHey 2 месяца назад

This one has me dying laughing!! 😂😂 "Can you respect them if you're killing them unnecessarily?" "What has higher value - your tastebuds or the life of another animal?" Ed you're too good at this. These conversations are my favorite content on the internet. Please keep going!!! 💚

@lorah3005 5 месяцев назад

👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims!

@Naomi-of9qm 5 месяцев назад

what a lovely human Pablo is! thank you Ed!

@mariamerigold 5 месяцев назад

Pablo is awesome! ❤

@MrNick3742 5 месяцев назад

Pablo is my new favorite interview subject you've had.

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

You want to date him, I have his homing pigeon

@tommypower3657 5 месяцев назад

Because he is ignorant. We’re designed to get our nutrients through animal foods not plant based/synthetic supplements that have been around for a very short time. Even if these supplements could magically work which they could never. We didn’t used to have them so that means it was impossible to survive just off plants but we can survive just off animal foods which means our natural diet is animal foods which means we are carnivores which means we get our nutrients through animals not plants. You understand? We are not herbivores and we are not omnivores either because we can’t survive off just plants. And you may say why am I still alive then, because it can take years depending on the person. We have the same requirements as any other carnivore. Do you think you could Nutri a dog with these synthetic supplements. God people are stupid.

@anboogaerts 5 месяцев назад

🌱🐾💚

@Vegan4Life_ 5 месяцев назад

We can live healthy and happy lives without causing harm to animals, so why wouldn't we?

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

Are you trolling again Ed here.

@vivekchalasani 5 месяцев назад

Hypothetically, if there was a health benefit to eating meat, would you still be opposed to it?

@meateaterscringe9863 5 месяцев назад

Yes, if rights violations are included, killing, abusing etc. "Hypothetically, if there was a health benefit to eating human meat, would you still be opposed to it?"

@komasaeufer 5 месяцев назад

@@meateaterscringe9863 I get seriously depressed without dairy products and meat. That's my justification for not being vegan. And I don't care if you tell me that studies show that you can live healthy as a vegan. I can't. I've tried it and it doesn't work out for me.

@La_TangoMariaa 5 месяцев назад

@@komasaeufer There's nothing in meat that you can't get on a plant based diet. If your depressed, it may be low vitamin d or b12 levels. Suppliments are recommended for everyone not just vegans. Fortified foods are good too. Or maybe you just have depression... ?

@meateaterscringe9863 5 месяцев назад

@@komasaeufer The last part doesn't make sense. That is like me saying that I cannot be happy without killing people, but without trying billion other options. Does not getting depressed justifies killing humans?

@alphaikaros417 5 месяцев назад

@meateaterscringe9863 Your argument only makes sense if you give animals a similar moral worth as humans which imo is ridiculous.

@MrDusuke 5 месяцев назад

This dude is so nice, honest and genuine. I hope he goes vegan.

@LoungeWLT 5 месяцев назад

Finally a normal good person again. He was cool and open to listen.

@angelafuller8746 5 месяцев назад

No excuse against being a vegan ❤

@fryupsai 5 месяцев назад

that's an incredibly westernised, narrow minded take. i implore you to do some research on cuisines and cultural practices outside of the western world before continuing to spread this narrative. human beings eating meat are not the problem, capitalism and mass production are.

@VeganViolaPlayer 5 месяцев назад

Ed, I can’t tell you how much I look up to you. Thank you brother. 🙏🏽

@Patralgan 5 месяцев назад

I've had my meat eater friend admitting that a vegan lifestyle is better, but he would not change his habits regardless. Like... Ok...?

@komasaeufer 5 месяцев назад

I also agree that the vegans are right, but I won't go vegan. Why should I? I love meat, it's legal, so I don't care.

@Patralgan 5 месяцев назад

@@komasaeufer you do you, but as for myself, legality doesn't equate to being morally sound. I couldn't hurt animals even if it's legal, it just feels wrong so I won't do it and I won't pay others to do it for me either. I also love the experience of eating meat, but I can't justify harming animals so I quit meat. Just because something feels good doesn't justify it. Otherwise someone could justify a rape because it felt good. I just wish people would be consistent with their values and actions. I'm sure most people agree that causing unnecessary harm to animals should be avoided, but it's only vegans who act consistently on that notion.

@thewhitedwarf3846 5 месяцев назад

If you trap someone into saying something with rhetorical arguments and psuedo-moral posturing you cannot be surprised that as soon as they get out of the box they say 'fuck that'

@Patralgan 5 месяцев назад

@@thewhitedwarf3846 I've noticed that people haven't really put a lot of thought about the morality of eating meat and it is rather nuanced so arguments for veganism might seem farfetched and people don't really want to think it very deeply because there is the fear of realizing that the whole life and the whole culture one has been living in has been morally unsound and that's truly scary. It's much easier to just not think about it and conform. I know I resisted a looong time, but a debates made me face the inconsistencies in my values and actions and I couldn't escape the conclusion and since I want to be consistent, I had no choice but to quit meat. Before that I used to come up with all sorts of excuses and stories to justify eating meat. But in the end, instead of feeling guilt of my past actions, it was liberating and it was the best choice of my life

@thewhitedwarf3846 5 месяцев назад

@@Patralgan there is no morality involved with eating, it's necessary. The vegan religion has evolved out of atheism as lost souls grasp for meaning but its a fugazy, the morals are not real, you have been decieved by the devil.

@jamiethejummer 5 месяцев назад

What a great conversation 😊

@AllBeingsAreLoveAmen 5 месяцев назад

i wish you would interview ladies, your interviews are a bit heavy on the guy action. amen

@MasterMoron 5 месяцев назад

I don't think most women would even bother debating him. Seriously, if a woman walked by a table with a guy who had a sign saying "why aren't you vegan" most women wouldn't give him the time of day. If he asked them why they aren't vegan they would say "because vegans can't eat meat". Then he would ask them if eating meat is moral and they would say "Who cares?"

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

Ed is a lady, generally ladies like to interview men

@alexs.5871 5 месяцев назад

@@MasterMoron what exactly is your assertion here? women are less logical? less ethical?

@rasrawjourney 5 месяцев назад

That would be nice to see more Women in the debates. I wonder if Men are just more eager to try and prove a point and argue that they’re right, which isn’t much of a positive trait

@La_TangoMariaa 5 месяцев назад

I think men are more likely to be outspoken about their views

@4ourty5ive 5 месяцев назад

I like this kid overall. One of the nicest conversation I’ve ever seen somebody have with ed

@Faramedic 5 месяцев назад

Ed you are my favourite person.

@vegan.enlightenment 5 месяцев назад

I had no idea I would be vegan either but it’s been more than 9 years now and I am never going back and yes, I do wish I went vegan earlier too. 😊❤

@swimnba3847 5 месяцев назад

I do have a question I dont like halloumi, i dont like muchrooms in any way Shape or form What should I eat as a vegan?:)

@ziggypop8106 5 месяцев назад

Rice, pulses, chickpeas, lentils, fruit, vegetables, plant based protein, soy protein.

@swimnba3847 5 месяцев назад

@@ziggypop8106 Thank you! I am a bit blind being a carnivore I will try that, Thank you

@ziggypop8106 5 месяцев назад

@@swimnba3847 You're welcome. Obviously you need to add vegan sauces, use seasonings and follow recipes to start, the same as you would with meat proteins. You can't just eat rice and veg that would taste very bland.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

There are some very popular plant-based food channels on RU-vid (for example Pick Up Limes and Sweet Potato soul).

@swimnba3847 5 месяцев назад

@@ziggypop8106 Well, I do like the taste of meat But seeing this guy destroying everone kind of turned it around for me

@JungleJoeVN 5 месяцев назад

Keep going. Keep being kind. It helps.

@nael65 5 месяцев назад

❤

@שגהש 4 месяца назад

Huge respect to this guy for being honest and not trying to defend his “side of the argument”

@shiva_the_infinite 5 месяцев назад

🤍

@sidspong9306 5 месяцев назад

Going on 7 years vegan because of you! Your content changed my life and I’m sitting here eating a delicious Jamaican chickpea n coconut curry because of it. I cannot quantify how many lives you have changed. Keep pushing for morality and understanding. Thank you:)

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

Oh yes I once saw a video from Australia about wild pigs being trapped and then shot. That genuinely was to protect a crop of chickpeas. I’m sure you could find the video if you search “ trapping wild pigs to protect chickpeas” No point me doing it, because you’ll search if you’re interested.

@sidspong9306 5 месяцев назад

@@tom4412 If you have watched much of Ed’s videos, you would understand the basic principle that eliminating animal suffering from agriculture entirely, whilst an imperative goal, cannot be entirely done without radical changes. However, trying to use that to justify the unnecessary slaughter of animals, or to pose veganism as a less ethical lifestyle, is illogical. It seems obvious that you would be enabling far more harm through funding slaughter. I’ll keep eating my chickpeas and not eating dead animals.

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

@@sidspong9306 good for you then keeping the wild pig hunting guy in a job. And yes I’ve watched most of Ed’s videos since he started back in 2015 I believe

@sidspong9306 5 месяцев назад

@@tom4412 I think you may be too disconnected to understand the argument of necessity. There is some rate of animal death attached to all food production, which is unfortunate, and should be prevented if possible, however the amount of animal suffering caused by eating meat is disgustingly higher. Let alone the much higher amount of crops (and therefore unnecessary animal deaths like the ones you speak of ) that are “required” to feed to the animals which are then also unnecessarily killed. I will gladly continue to advocate for the reduction of animal harm, there is no hypocrisy in my statements. I ask you, If your concern is truly for the boars lives being taken, surely you would feel even more vigour to stop supporting unnecessary slaughter of millions of sentient animals for meat?

@tom4412 5 месяцев назад

@@sidspong9306 not wild boar, I’m referring to actual wild pigs

@NoMoreTears4All 5 месяцев назад

❤🎉❤

@MagnumDB 5 месяцев назад

Welp… my mother knows I am vegetarian leaning vegan. I told her I really need to cut out dairy. She was shocked, “Even CHEESE?! I can’t live without cheese.” Me: “In order to get cheese you need a pregnant cow which means human forced impregnation and a calf that’s ripped away and shoved in a cage for veal.” Mom: Well your sister (operated a barn, horse vet school, has pet Fish, snakes, chickens, ducks, cats, dogs… etc) says cows are STUPID (mother’s emphasis, not mine). Me: Babies are stupid, should we eat them? Mom: Babies are NOT stupid. And that was the end of that debate. In my head I thought about what would happen if we put a newborn baby and newborn cow in a field together, which would survive longer. I’m not going to change her mind, unfortunately. I’m sure I could have said things about just the moral aspect of it all, is it morally right to take the life of an animal even if you think they are “stupid“ and I was going to list stupid animals we have as pets but I think her rebuttal would be there’s a difference between the animals we keep us pets versus Animals used for food. That’s an assumption, we didn’t get into that. But if she said that my reply would be sometimes we choose what animals are pets because of how cute we think they are and that’s also not a reason to choose which animals to kill. There are cultures that worship cows And treat them with the most respect. So the “stupid” thing seems more like a localized opinion. All I know is I get very heated very quickly when I debate things, I’ve lost friends over political debates (I am independent and despise both major political parties), religious debates (I bounce between atheist and anti-theist) there’s only so much more drama and fighting that I can take, though even as I type that I feel terrible because no amount of family drama is going to equal stress and pain of an animal stuck in captivity and abused before being killed, and watching all of its family and friends get slaughtered around it. I want to be stronger for the sake of the innocent lives but I have so much stress and anxiety and anger and just get so emotional sometimes that once in a blue moon it gets so bad I’m barely able to function for my day jobs which I need to make a living every once in a while. Or function in my socialize because there is just some imagery or something that it totally haunts me regarding animal abuse. Yeah, I just don’t think at the moment I have the mental, emotional fortitude to handle debates in a calm and friendly way. There is absolutely no way I can talk the way you do softness and almost understanding.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

There are some interesting videos by Earthling Ed, Joey Carbstrong, and Gary Yourofsky about how to handle interactions with non-vegan family members, and how difficult that can be. The Mic the Vegan channel is always worth a look, for various reasons, as well. Btw a lot of what you've said here overlaps with the "marginal cases" argument for veganism. (We wouldn't exploit and kill human beings with mental disabilities, and so.....) Good luck! 😃

@worldreformmedia6593 5 месяцев назад

lol, he was wearing a mask at the begining.

@David34981 5 месяцев назад

what's funny

@komasaeufer 5 месяцев назад

@@David34981 Bro, it's 2024. Corona ended like 2 years ago.

@La_TangoMariaa 5 месяцев назад

@@komasaeufer Covid is still around, as are other sicknesses. Some people just feel safer wearing one, don't see why people get so bugged over a mask.

@JohnDoe-s3v2v 5 месяцев назад

@@La_TangoMariaa Ikr? Apparently slaughter's fine, but wearing a mask is shameful. smh

@heekamalokilo7194 5 месяцев назад

We don't know when this was recorded.

@vicenteocqueteau4112 5 месяцев назад

Don't be surprised if people keep confusing veganism with vegetarianism if big platforms like yours always refer to nonvegans as "meat eaters", and make the debates almost entirely about meat. He was very open to listen, which is great, but with your message I think he left the table thinking more about vegetarianism than veganism.

@monemori 5 месяцев назад

It's typically a more approachable term than "carnist", which makes people feel attacked (even if it's probably a more accurate one)

@vicenteocqueteau4112 5 месяцев назад

I also dislike the term carnist. My point is that we shouldn't present veganism as the opposition of meat eating. That's literally vegetarianism.

@lukasmadrid1945 5 месяцев назад

I mean he mentions eggs and chickens in the video

@vicenteocqueteau4112 5 месяцев назад

Yes, but the conversation was overwhemlingly focused on meat, and this is a tendency in the movement in general (including Ed), not only in this conversation.

@La_TangoMariaa 5 месяцев назад

@@vicenteocqueteau4112So if we were to stop saying "meat eaters" what would you prefer us to say?

@Oracle_Speaks 5 месяцев назад

He is a good guy, hopefully he asks himself the hard questions all vegans asked themselves when they flip the mental switch to go vegan for the animals.

@melissashelton-ortner7938 5 месяцев назад

Wonderful conversation!

@zanirani 5 месяцев назад

What a wonderful human being… All he needed is to meet someone like Ed, and now, I have a very high hopes for him to go vegan. ❤

@antoinettecastle4739 5 месяцев назад

What a great conversation Ed! Loved it I have learnt a lot that I feel more equipped to talk to other non vegans. Thank you❤

@AvengerNk 5 месяцев назад

Seem like a smart guy. He'll get there soon enough

@nathansole8324 5 месяцев назад

I don’t believe compassion should extend to everything and everyone. It extends only to things, which I have chosen to care about. It’s not categorised by animals or plants but instead this animal or this plant. I care to walk, feed and cuddle this dog. I care to water, nurture and look after this plant. I don’t care about that other animal or that other plant.