Can A Motorbike Brand Use Their Expertise To Create An E-Mountain Bike?

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We've headed to Belfast to find out if the expertise of an established motorbike company can lend themselves to the creation of an E-Mountain bike. We're riding the Gas Gas Trail Cross and Enduro Cross alongside Jordan Scott, a moto trials and enduro specialist who's showing us around some good trails outside of Rostrevor. Gas Gas riders and mountain bikers such as Kenny Belaey have turned to their E-bikes for something new. Will motorbike brands breed a whole new type of mountain biker into the game, ones that aren't obsessed with weight and ride the bikes in a completely different way?
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@esm7708 2 года назад

The answer is yes. Just pop down to your local Chinese bike factory and rebadge what they have on offer with a massive mark up. Then do some PR nonsense involving the word “kinematics” many times and graphs no one understands. Easy!

@Pienimusta 2 года назад

Do not give away the business secret of 80%-90% of whole bike industry.

@orange1666 2 года назад

@@Pienimusta absolutely most of the industry is based on marketing and bullshit , you can buy all the components and assemble yourself , anybody with passion and some basic engineering skills can build anything , I know because I have been on both sides of the fence and worked in many factories at the sharp end . What is gas gas or HUSQVARNA about them bikes - the decals !!

@shanemichael388 2 года назад

Easy cash flow, probably not much cheaper than there trails motor bikes with much larger margins. Its quite a average looking frame imo...good luck to them!

@holdencaulfied7492 7 дней назад

All bikes are made in Asia so what are you going on about?

@esm7708 6 дней назад

@@holdencaulfied7492 read what I wrote again and read the comments.

@nufaninca1 2 года назад

Yamaha’s been making power assist bike longer than anyone. They launched the worlds first and have been at retail since 1993. Last year, Yamaha launch it’s first full suspension bicycle since the full suspension BMX of 1973. I think the YDX-Moro Pro model is awesome

@Thewilfhound 2 года назад

Shame you didn't comment on how they both ride. We watch these video's to see if they're worth spending our money on. Please!!! Less about Bigging up the brand name and more about the bikes themselves. How they ride? Handling characteristics? Weight distribution? Suspension? Fun factor? Etc.etc Thank you.

@kiltymacbagpipe 2 года назад

They get paid to make these videos by the company. These aren’t reviews.

@vaughanboyce3702 2 года назад

Bring it on competition is good and will hopefully bring down the ludicrous price of emtbs.

@natecote1971 Год назад

Not kidding I priced out one that was really cool but $14,000USD!

@thecount1001 2 года назад

shouldn't the bike be called, Battery Battery?

@martynjopson2658 2 года назад

I'm sorry but the bikes just look a little janky, when you look at the big brands in comparison, Just look at the chain/seat stays and how they connect ,not pretty

@CarkeekW 2 года назад

but if they were 30% less they may be compelling , if not 100% agree

2 года назад

Finally Yamaha motor, probably the best one, most reliable :-)

@twowheelpilot 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately the Yamaha motor isn't very nice. It's the most artificial feeling of all the motors in

@johnreese3762 2 года назад

Impressive bikes/video! Thanks Steve!

@ronlind1757 2 года назад

Great video... great review as always...

@roblowe6086 2 года назад

Great video. Amazing bike. Actually really want one of these.

@patroy3774 11 месяцев назад

Just bought a G Trail 2.0 it was a super deal. So far so good. It's better than my 2018 Haibike fat six which I broke the frame twice at the same spot. Although I I rode very hard. Same Yamaha motor on both bikes its great. Always good information keep up the good work 😊

@iconaan 2 года назад

Nice presentation, you're great Steve!

@nofallsnoballs21 2 года назад

The GasGas is actually the Raymon Trailray. But anyway a lot of value for money

@Extremegaz25 2 года назад

Looks fantastic and great value for money

@copylot77 2 года назад

2 wheels carry our soul! It's a very nice video, I'm an electric mountain bike rider, I live in the Netherlands, I'm still waiting for my new channel. Good luck with my love.

@robbchastain3036 2 года назад

Very cool, Steve, your GasGas cred. And with all these new players in the game, hopefully, it won't be long before we see e-bike motocross of some sort and why not, Yamaha took BMX to another level in '74 with its Yamaha Gold Cup in a stadium in Los Angeles.

@embn 2 года назад

We hope so! That sounds very cool, we tried a 'supercross' race on a loop we created a while back, fun day!

@dronesandstuff 2 года назад

Gasgas looks like r raymon TrailRay :)

@kersi7491 2 года назад

it is more or less the same company ;-)

@ssse3123 2 года назад

KTM, Husky, GasGas, Raymon - all are part of PIERER Mobility Group

@emtbtrailrider539 2 года назад

@@ssse3123 KTM looks the best, plus it's Carbon and has a Bosch system

@stefanegerland2861 2 года назад

Yes, i have a raymon and it is the Same frame, motor. Gasgas looks better 😅👍

@stehgrad 2 года назад

@@ssse3123 KTM bikes are not part of Pierer.

@grande-feo-flaco-fuerte8551 2 года назад

3:31 GAS GAS O VAMOS, GAS A FONDO! 🤣 BIEN DICHO STEVE!

@jap7856 2 года назад

The GasGas Trail and Enduro cross eMTBs both look great! It's interesting that Pierer Mobility AG has decided to offer eMTB brands (KTM, Husky, GasGas) with the 3 different motor manufactures. I heard they are bring the GasGas to the USA, so the pricing will be interesting as it will be competing with the Huskies they just started selling in the USA.

@stehgrad 2 года назад

KTM ebikes has no connetion to Pierer.

@jap7856 2 года назад

@@stehgrad Wow! you are right KTM eMTB are own by Fahrrad GmbH. So I guess that is why my local KTM dealer said they will not be sell the KTM eMTB, only Husky & GasGas.

@benmanning4340 Год назад

I have a gasgas ec 250 2 stroke supermoto and I love it. Gasgas is the best🎉

@curtislee6242 2 года назад

I wonder if they can make them cheaper. They're ridiculously expensive.

@DTyzfR1 2 года назад

Are you going to do a film on the hybrid going to town with options on going off road ld be very interested in how it works

@anthonymorris5084 2 года назад

Do you have any videos of the advantages and disadvantages of horizontal and vertical rear suspension systems?

@Padbangers 2 года назад

there arent any. they work just the same

@mrgonk3060 2 года назад

Seems to me the profit margin on Ebikes must be massive. They use similar technology as off road motorbikes, with a fraction of the number of components, often with a larger price tag. Also seems to me that you can barely get a cigarette paper between current designs, so I don't think they are selling them to innovate new ideas.

@johnmorrison8351 2 года назад

I was in a motorbike store last month and they had a Tazer MX (which was actually lovely) and a Ducati E-MTB. The Ducati was very disappointing up close

@alexblaska9802 2 года назад

There pricing seems alot more in check where some other companies charge as much as a full on motocross bike. Thats what made me steered me away a few years ago.

@freetechdk 2 года назад

Sorry I dont really like the design of the frame... specs might be ok... but the frame design just really looks like something off a china webshop.. Nope... not liking it at all.

@Pinionaire 10 месяцев назад

I've got a Gas Gas trail 3.0, it rolls like a Cadillac on rough stuff. it's almost perfect, but for the Yamaha motor. That motor feels laggy and has a lot of resistance not allowing you to coast as soon as you let off the pedal. Could it be just mine? Anyone else notice that I the Yammy motors?

@chrispederson4157 2 месяца назад

Actually not at all. Only time I feel lag if pedalling over limited speed. Once not pedal even over limit speed it just coast nice. I like the yamaha motor and power delivery. But i am no expert.

@jyoung6708 Месяц назад

i got one and yes i cant go very fast the motor wont allow it

@chrispederson4157 Месяц назад

@@jyoung6708 You guys are hitting speed limiter. Need to get rid of it.

@Mari-hb6po 2 года назад

Looks like a Raymon Trailray

@kersi7491 2 года назад

it is more or less the same company ;-)

@Mari-hb6po 2 года назад

@@kersi7491 pexco --> pierer

@kersi7491 2 года назад

@@Mari-hb6po i know 🙈.....

@PaddyMcQueen 2 года назад

My first motorbike was a gasgas... still missing it

@legyvanmaster 2 года назад

I think Yamaha PX2 is not as good as Bosch gen4 and Shimano EP8. I ve tested them all....Yamaha was not good on Haibike, way better on Giant bikes with Giant software. Bosch is better, Shimano small and very good too. Curently I ride Brose, very good, best natural feeling - and I hope motor problems are solved - mine still works :)

@turbolevo8703 2 года назад

My brose Levo (2019)has 8k miles on it now. No problems yet.

@Yoda-em5mt 2 года назад

You and i had the same gasa trials bike i think mine was a 2001 300 txt i thought it was great . I think the moto industry could teach the bicycle industry alot a real lot . Dissapointed that neither of these bikes comes with a 27 x 2.8 rear wheel and what about wide rims. I like the look of the husky but think the gasa looks a bit shitty. Be cool to see your moto trials skilll steve .

@gingerb36 2 года назад

How did the bike ride?

@nicklame2647 2 года назад

more E-CAR reviews, please!

@Mark-kh2in 2 года назад

Do GasGas E MTBs have the infamous "Turbo Button" 😂

@eightlivesdownmtb 2 года назад

I get the economics of a YT channel, but does every feature absolutely need to be a lush veneration of the sponsor’s wares?

@almostclement4975 2 года назад

The fact that you’re even asking proves that you clearly don’t understand how advertising/sponsorship works.

@eightlivesdownmtb 2 года назад

@@almostclement4975 It was a rhetorical question. Do you clearly understand what rhetorical means? (As I already know the answer to this question then this, too, is really rhetorical.) And, while I’m at it, I spent seven years in network TV, so your ‘proof’ is nothing of the sort. But you carry on if it makes you happy, treacle.

@phillipmaloney5364 2 года назад

I agree, this type of their videos are basically infomercials. They are well produced and entertaining, but I don't expect any critical analysis.

@Greyarcher1 2 года назад

Or put there name on an Raymon Bike! And call it theres 🥴

@lesterma1608 2 года назад

Why not when they can sell a emtb for the price if a gas one!

@natecote1971 Год назад

Are they allowed at mtn bike parks?

@captainkette3411 2 года назад

The answer is, its another brand of pierer Mobility gmbh to earn some more money. Its the same Bike like Raymon e Bikes. No Innovations from GasGas, only Name to sell more… pour Bikemarket

@jimbruce4348 2 года назад

Love it... "1 Euro short of 4000 Dollars"

@Tefloncoated 2 года назад

So Gasgas, and Husqvarna are owned by KTM. KTM mostly dominates Motox and the smaller motogo classes with even the top tier KTM winning races. Im sure they will be right up there very soon.

@christucker282 5 месяцев назад

Raymon make these bikes. This is actually a raymon full ray painted in gas gas colours.

@dshow1658 2 года назад

I’m in Fort Wayne Indiana USA

@OurCognitiveSurplus 2 года назад

Anyone can make a frame.

@islandaerial3414 2 года назад

They all pretty much come out of Taiwan

@bradsanders6954 Год назад

KTM builds and races all kinds of things, Moto-Gp, bicycles before motorcycles, now they have won a c-ship with a GT2 car, the oxbow, of course they build electric motorcycles, an e bike is par for the course. KTM is Husqvarna and Gas Gas.

@pb8582 2 года назад

I already feel bad for the future KTM ebike owner haha

@stehgrad 2 года назад

KTM ebikes have no connetion to KTM motorbikes. Totally different company. Totally different people. GasGas and Husqvarna ebikes are owned by Pierer/KTM motorbikes. :-) ... I hope now everything is clear.

@Pienimusta 2 года назад

Seems to work from Chainsaws to E-bikes at least for Husqvarna

@stehgrad 2 года назад

They are different companies.

@TwoWheelTirade 2 года назад

Maybe Honda might make some more bikes now they are packing in F1... but this time not melt them all down... ! (supposedly)

@janeblogs324 2 года назад

Honda made some MTBs, almost always they don't even design them let alone manufacture them themselves

@janeblogs324 2 года назад

What? 4 grand and I still have to pedal myself or it won't move?

@jeromep4148 2 года назад

Since all the components of a bike (major and minor) are ALL make by a small number of specialty manufacturers, anyone (including you and me) can launch line of bikes. Making a go of it and having a sustainable business is a different story. Will Gasgas throw in the towel in 3 yrs along with a bunch of other manufacturers when they figure out there is no money to be made??? We shall see.

@blakkpatron 2 года назад

"they might not be so obsessed with weight" translation they are heavy af

@InstaLabSparti 2 года назад

Yet another ebike video and no one mentions bafang...

@chrish8871 2 года назад

What did he say…? 😆👍🏻

@sergiolandz6056 2 года назад

can they price them lower than a motorbike ?

@stephenbarradell4043 12 дней назад

This bike is selling for so cheap where I live. So cheap it seems like maybe it's not real. Anybody know anything about that?

@HeathenRides 2 года назад

I'm a big gas gas fan so I got disappointed with this Bike,, but I'm sure many will buy it because it's gasgas

@porroco 2 года назад

Do you forget yamaha and ktm ebikes

@tomquimby8669 2 года назад

Not a pleasing design, the Husgavana looks better

@winry9762 2 года назад

GasGas means Scratches in the Philippines 😁😁

@steveusher779 2 года назад

Love this, I'm the same age as Steve and spent a lot of years riding trial, just got into e mtb, and very nearly bought a fanric e bike, but ended up going for e sommet, to be fair it's not like riding a moto, hopefully I'll get used to it😅

@eSportno 2 года назад

Raymon-gasgas?

@MrArn87 2 года назад

I saw the same thing as I own a Raymon myself. to me they are the same bike.

@Padbangers 2 года назад

Yes, Gasgas didnt create anything here. It's Raymon frames with worse parts for the same price as the Raymons

@ssse3123 2 года назад

Yamaha motor on KTM group products. Haha

@emtbtrailrider539 2 года назад

KTM eMTB uses Bosch and it looks way better

@patrick.771 11 месяцев назад

Never buy a Gasgas at MSRP. My dealer gave me 1000€ discount on the mid range model.

@neilrobertson1345 2 года назад

Nice bike but the same same slightly different frame different stickers but all the hardware on frame as many other bikes , lot people starting to see how Public getting milked ,but what do you do happy riding haha

@alteredshape7611 2 года назад

I do not like the design of these GasGas bikes...Great show

@weizenobstmusli8232 Год назад

Strange geo numbers.

@davidewest78 2 года назад

Ktm, husqvarna and gas gas are all the same company. There Motocross bikes are literally the same bikes

@turbolevo8703 2 года назад

Their.

@andyand100 2 года назад

Can a bike manufacturer make ebike yes ktm can

@callonmcgee9248 2 года назад

Chainstays are horribly long…..🤢

@coldsteeloffroad Год назад

Ironic that KTM is buying motors from Yamaha...

@marauder7412 2 года назад

The one and only reason they are selling ebikes, is to meet EU emissions regulations.

@MrRijonz 2 года назад

Another bike using the gasgas name and made under license, shame emtb can not tell the actual truth about the brand.

@bumbalaridesmtb4910 2 года назад

What can motorcycle brands can bring to mountain biking? Nothing... They just design the frame. Suspension is either from Fox or Rockshox, motor is from either from Bosch, Shimano or Yamaha, drivetrain is either from Shimano or SRAM. Only change is the price tag! I would be much more exited about brands that changed cycling world.

@ronulrich7453 13 дней назад

@@bumbalaridesmtb4910 frame is not by definition “nothing” and expertise in moto and trials could yield design breakthroughs. That said, “nothing” could apply to every “frame” manufacturer reliant on other vendors to deliver an complete bike.

@dshow1658 2 года назад

I need to buy a E-Bike HELP ME !!!!!

@Shacko117 2 года назад

Gasgas once made a ATV ..it was absolutely Shit .

@chriskoutsiou729 2 года назад

KTM !!!!

@robertennis5220 2 года назад

Full on advertisement, there is nothing of value other than that

@PelicanIslandLabs 17 дней назад

Flashy vid with little-no real info.

@oztoob 2 года назад

Everyone going on about the price of EBikes. Yes they are expensive but look at the price of a normal bike. They are an even bigger rip off.

@OSR_1 Год назад

7 mins in and you haven’t started talking about the actual bikes and if they are any good or not? What a strange format for a video? Is this just one big Ad?…

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

sadly, yes it is.

@razahassan811 Год назад

Its a little smelly even with deoderant.

@robhaskins3068 2 года назад

Legal Emtbs have a social licence because they are quiet and don't spin the wheel causing massive erosion. Motorcycles are universally hated by the general public because of noise and rider attitudes. I Hope moto riders leave their attitude of "looking for peace to disturb" in the shed when they discover the magic of Emtbs and are smart enough to not derestrict bikes and ruin benifits of No licence, rego and insurance. E=Mtb²