Can a synth sound exactly like a guitar? 

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his ability to copy the notes just from hearing.

MrDustman206 i thought everyone could do that

It's normal to be able to do that by singing, but not so much with a different instrument

Might be rehearsed and they knew which lines to play :P

I pretty sure its planned mate. He already practiced with the other before hand

The guy on guitar looks genuinely impressed by the sound and by the ability to replicate said sounds with that kind of precision, by both the instrument and player.

This riffs are pretty common in blues, all of them well know. And im pretty sure they rehearsed it a bit as well.

Still doesn't mean that the guitarist isn't showing genuine expression of being impressed by the instrument.

that's not that diffucult if you are a well trained musician

As a guitar player and a keyboard player, that's a lot easier to do on a keyboard. Still takes skill, but it's a lot less of one hand tripping over the other.

Michael Riley To me it sounds just like how Jeff Beck would play those licks.

That's what I thought too. The earlier stuff also sounds like Eric Johnson

I feel like if he had rehearsed the parts before then he could nail the bends a lot more, but he is just trying to mimic in this on the spot. Very impressive, but I’d still take the PRS any day!

The sound is not the same, you can hear the pick attack on the strings with the guitar.

+Chaotic Bliss Not perfect pitch, but a good ear. Also the vibrato sounded terrible and out of tune, can't beat the guitar at that.

Danimra Stablecon guitar vibrato is bad because it can only vibrate up.

tremelo arm properly controlled can vibrato (or approximate it) down

I know Marco, he has perfect pitch. You wrote that comment over and over again.. lol, so sad

bullshit. stop talking shit. im always amazed at how theres some little noplaying douchebag who shows up to talk smack. This guys amazing ukelele boy. And im a guitarist not a keyboard fan

Nope no floppy disk drive

Got doom on my calculator so i'd say no

No No No, the most important question is, Can it run Crysis?

Bet your ass some dude on Japan made it run months ago.

Asking the real questions

Chris It can sound like anything, search Roli Seaboard 5d

You mean like a guitar?

you don't seem to get the awesomeness of the seaboard .. its a guitar and a saxophone and a harp and cello and everything else in one.

you don't seem to get the awesomeness of the seaboard .. its the price of a guitar and a saxophone and a harp and cello and everything else in one.

you don't seem to get the awesomeness of the seaboard...I didn't spend the first 20 years of my life, learning to play a guitar. Seaboard is just the product for me.

topherpoo I was just seeing this scene and thought exactly the same while I was reading this comment

Unison bends

+Brian Walker LOL

now I really wanna know :P

CYBREATH 4 I think "simulating" instruments can be really useful for people like composers who need to get a track done but they can't get their hands on instruments with such an specific sound like a guitar or a flute, I dunno...

CYBREATH 4 Well, it depends... Not all bands are the same... Maybe there's a four piece band and the keyboardist can replace a rythm guitar while the main guitarist is soloing... Or what if they are doing a Jethro Tull cover and they can't get their hands on a flute? As I said before, not all bands are the same but I do understand if YOU don't like the simulation concept...

If anyone wants to listen some good simulated guitars try something like Anup Sastry - Titan ,it changed my perception towards programmed djenty guitars CYBREATH 4 LukaANDkrusty

+Munzu Not necessarily, as far as I could tell on my first listen all of this video stays in one scale which they probably agreed upon before filming, and with practice you can really tell the scale degrees apart from each other. This is not to detract from the keyboardist's skills, he's awesome :) even though in the end you can really see the guitarist do stuff that the keyboardist can't replicate. ...And this is not to detract from the Seaboard's usefulness, the Seaboard's awesome, it's just that you can't beat guitar at its own game :)

+Munzu probably just relative pitch

+Munzu Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Perfect pitch has nothing to do with being able to play "by ear". I usually warm up by plaing the entire range of the piano notes, and after that, i am ready to play whatever I hear. It's like a neurological mapping between a sound in your head and your hand comming down on the right piano keys (or whatever other instrument you may be playing). Or did you think he is identifying the notes as he hears them so that he can play the right keys on the keyboard? No, it does not work like that =)

You can do it with relative pitch. I know what one note sounds like, in my case that's middle C on a piano. Then if I hear a note if it's a white note I can sort of sing in my head the C major scale and get to it that way or I can keep the sound in my head and listen for the interval. The C major scale way I find a lot easier and can get notes right pretty much all of the time, unless they are flat or sharp. I'm not there yet. Although for me it's like five full seconds before I can know what note it is. I couldn't play stuff on the fly like this. I'd have to actually practice it for a bunch of years.

No... the phrases of guitar player was very simples...

Its not a pitch wheel its made in the keys

@@prismanovelish9902 I think that was their point. That pitch wheels aren't great and the way it's done on the seaboard, in the individual keys, is much better.

Seriously sounds like Jeff Beck’s tone

Why is it every skinny brit with long dark hair and a beard is Russell Brand? He doesn’t really look like him.

Ikr

Kırk hammett

@@ViaticalTree He's not even british he's French

glad its not only pmt that has a Russel brand lookalike

Nicholas Cabrera Wait, what? How does this disprove tonewood?

Tone wood is a joke.

Jacob Samples My personal belief is that while it likely has some minor effect, it's an almost entirely insignificant due to variability of other factors. That wasn't my question though. My question was how this video demonstrates that tonewood doesn't have an effect.

Josh Gill I would say it disproves tone wood because he's getting a sound that is almost identical to a guitar out of a completely synthetic instrument.

+Jacob Samples it's a similar sound in terms of notes, vibrato, etc., but it's a pretty different tone. Even if it was the same though, it's a midi sound. Good midi sounds are generally sampled. Guitar samples would generally be recorded from a nice guitar made of nice wood. (Not that tonewood necessarily makes a significant difference, just that this doesn't prove it.)

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Not necessarily, you can also develop a solid relative pitch and repeat these phrases.

it's not that necessary, with enough training and a good ear you can "easily" mimic the lines

raitoxote or you call that perfect pitch

Irun Mon He clearly didn't.

Matej Fele you don't know his life

same

determination? it's replayed in different styles across the whole game.

I agree... the guitar is much nicer to listen to.

I have to say that the tone and the reverb on the ROLI is great for the stuff that he's playing, so i think the Seaboard is super great for slide guitar sounds, without the limits of a real slide for guitar.

moreanimalspirits well at first it intimates the guitar very well (even if it doesnt sound perfect) the big point is that it is an all in one kit with the oppertunity of pitching and bending and different stuff on a keyboard

Watch him play Purple Rain on here. Its amazing

I've decided not to actually to watch the rest of video and listen to the music; I can say that I definitely like the Seaboard tone it reminds me a lot of Hendrix

I know what I must do.

you can't do that on a normal synth though. there's the modulation wheel ofc but it's not quite the same thing

It's all in the feel of the fingers, i had a go at one of these when a musician buddy of mine brought it to a local shop awhile back. To get the sound out you have to press much harder than you normally have to on a string, say a guitar and its also much fatter which obviously causes more friction -> harder to do faster vibrato. Especially if you sit it in the ridges it actually forces you to use a set note spectrum. Mostly physical limitations but honestly given enough time with the thing and if you have enough talent no doubt you could recreate an almost perfect sound. The difference is in the pitch control of each individual note in such a familiar layout. Even the most proficient synth users with joysticks or whatnot fail to grasp the spectrum of what they're playing unless it's super rehearsed due to the complexity of their tools. This however is real time to the point where rather than a synth its more of a new instrument entirely.

if your synth has aftertouch you can do vibrato if you configure it properly actually

Youre free to play a bass line and bend the notes on the lead all you want at the same time on guitar and show us better.

Oh, of course I can't do that. But on a recording there is no need anyway, just play two tracks and get a much better result.

+looneyburgmusic change the pitch of different notes completely independently. No other controller we know of does that. The seaboard does it by sending each note on it's own midi channel. Aside from that the unique interface of the silicon curved keys makes it a really organic and intuitive experience, ie you play vibrato on the key itself rather than using a separate tool like a joystick or ribbon.

+Andertons Music Co really? you don't know of the Haken Continuum developed in the 90's or the madrona labs soundplane ??? Im Pretty Sure Rudess (who helped with the seaboard project) got the idea from his Haken Continuum which uses a separate channel per finger....

Andertons Music Co Independant pitch change is interesting, and could be useful, but what are the practical limitations? Is it 16 Channels, like standard MIDI? Or less? (Or more?) Does it work with just about any multi-timbral synth? Or limited to only the included software? If the pitch change only worked with software that would be a major "con" for me personally, when I make new instrument investments I always look "long-term", and software has an annoying habit of no longer being usable after a few years without constant updates and support, (as hardware/OS changes happen). The playing surface itself is nice to be sure, but it honestly does not "jump" out as a must have at it's current price, vs. what is already available. Maybe if ROLI is able to ramp up production, and bring down the price some, buying one might be worthwhile, (even if just to experiment), but the listed $3000 for a 61-key is simply not justifiable. So I am sure these controllers will someday have a place in Synth history, but the "Future of keyboards"? Probably not.

+looneyburgmusic it works with ALL software that supports MIDI!

Dory Video I guess that is a plus for some people, but if a controller is not 100% functional with *all* MIDI instruments, software and hardware, it's a "pass" for me. One of the most important things for me personally is that everything in my rig is totally interconnected - hardware, and software. Any one of my hardware synths can control everything else, including all my VSTi's,

its not always about the speed my friend :)

+Arty Shat Don't tell our friend Jordan Rudess that.

***** Rudess is famous for his speed and intensity when playing. That is his "trademark". Like EVH and finger-tapping a fretboard, or Tommy Lee playing the drums upside down.

+looneyburgmusic PLEASE - now shit on Jorden Rudess because he supports this company and product....you must have a very sad and meaningless life

Yogi Krishana When did I say anything about Rudess? Wow, you are really giving Roli their troll money aren't you?

My PSR S950 also crying. oh wait, he's already crying to your tyros.

:p

+wesmatron I'd be happy with a tenth myself! lol

DJShadesUK That'd be enough

i mean, some1 still has to play the seaboard. i think what you meant was instruments will be replaced

Elliot Fisk Who says it has to be a seaboard? For all we know, the future of music 100 years from now might just be a generator that pops out a sequence of chord progressions.

That'd be awesome lol. Machines pumping out amazing songs one after another all automatically generated and a new song is never like an older one

jzblue9 but it takes skill to create this type of music as well, not really computer generated bruh

Spinnifuchs And you still can't play xylophone on a guitar, it's really upsetting.

Mezurashii5 Yeah xylophone is so widely-used in popular music

+Mezurashii5 every instrument has it's own purpose....

I have yet to see a main stream rock guitarist playing without a bank of effects pedals...are we listening to the guitar or its electronically modified envelope?

+Steven Dawe all of them have pedals or the amp modifies the sound a guitar without pedals or effects usually sounds really clean.