"A startup is a company that is in the first stage of its operations. These companies are often initially bankrolled by their entrepreneurial founders as they attempt to capitalize on developing a product or service for which they believe there is a demand" - So yes it is
This is a science communication channel.. for the layman. If you want people to have some concept of the numbers and what they mean, you have to speak their language. And their target audience speak imperial
no mention of ITER? also all this talk about AI is driving me mad. Cristina brought it to the point: Its just advanced statistics for now. It enables wonderful discoveries, but calling it artificial intelligence always sounds to close to AGI.
ITER is a useless pork barrel project. If it is wildly successful according to the greatest dreams of the teams building it, it is far too large and expensive to ever serve as the basis for a commercial project and the discoveries made on ITER will have little bearing to compact high B-field spheromaks and stellarators that might possibly be commercially viable at some point. The best thing that could happen to fusion research is for ITER to be cancelled. Iter is the giant cuckoo crowding out all useful fusion research.
@@soylentgreenb None of those alternative forms of magnetic confinement fusion projects will amount to anything either. Spheromaks , stellarators and other forms are bound to lose the fusion race. They are all fundamentally based on garbage principles.
Well.. it's just like building an engine on a car. It won't start right away. Most of the time, you'll need to tweak a few things here and there and try again. That's exactly what they've been doing for 20 years.
If goverments would have pursued fusion like the war on drugs we would have resolved this issue a long time ago. But anything that usurps the fossil fuel magnates will not be seriously pursued for a loooong time.
When learning about this in school, my Physics teacher said that he got told in the 70s by his Physics teacher that fusion power was supposedly 10 years away. Tells you everything really, I'll be surprised if commercial fusion power exists by 2050.
The difference now is that a multi national coalition exists that had been building the largest reactor yet. And by multinational, there's literally every major economy in there.
It won't exist by 2050. Right now, the best future prospects lie with ITER, and it's not supposed to bring commercial fusion power much closer. It's a purely research oriented fascility. Its successor, DEMO, will be the intermediate between research and commercialised fusion power plants. It will work as a prototype for the latter. The current roadmap is from 2012 and lists "Electricity generation demonstration 2048". However, the current schedule of ITER means that the DEMO schedule is expected to be postponed by at least 10 years. So maybe we'll get "Electricity generation demonstration" by 2060?
What kind of sliding scale celebration are you planning for fusion 'leccy in 2050? Roll with the product materials' use to KO the legacy released coal furnace product cancers and spot someone's quincañeria if the local utility buys into fusion; start a self-fed pizza garden and orbital transfer station if you really like how the biz cracks out?
Fact is it could happen tomorrow or not in our life time. It wont happen until it does LOL... They believe they are close but could be wrong. Sometimes you are closer to something than you think you are. Science is funny that way. Lots of logic and prior experience from comparable but those don't ALWAYS apply.
@@bruvamichal7437 If Artificial inteligence is created successfully any and all scientific barriers will fall in various fields, medicine would be one of the most prominent I would say. With successful AI you have no barrier but the physical laws.
One of the Nuclear Engineering professors at my school gave a talk and said that the rule of thumb with commercial fusion is that it's always 50 years out.
sparc is 6 years away and better than outdated/worthless iter, the secret sauce is the new and powerful magnets. 10 year max for 5Q output, 20 years for tech adoption.
@@shashanksingh9095 Please just stop, thats just marketing. ITER is a research apparatus designed to help understand how and if building a fusion reactor is possible, its the sledgehammer to crack a walnut since people are tired of failing to make significant progress. It will be neither outdated or worthless.
The problem is the process has too many variables to control, it needs to be extremely simplified. Simplifying the model is the key. The gravity of the sun is the simplification key for the sun, on a small scale, you have to find it's equivalent.
I'm so glad these projects are happening in the world. It's both about making the world better for everyone and pushing the limits while learning so much about the universe
This is exactly why I'm into computer coding/science/engineering. It's the future, and because it can test years and years of human efforts in the blink of an eye, it will propel us further than we have ever gone - very soon.
'artificial intelligence' Stop using that term, AI is not real or even close to implementation. What we have are complex expert systems. We are nowhere close to 'AI', it's just a buzzword used by startups to hype their image.
All AI means is that technology is able to improve by itself by constantly updating the information in its statistical models without human intervention. By updating the information available, the statistical model also changes, the model is the decision centre for the technology. eg. Tesla's use Artificial Intelligence to autonomously improve their accident prevention technology. I do know what you mean though as a lot of technologies that claim to use Artificial Intelligence don't exactly classify as Artificial Intelligence, but it definitely exists in some sense.
@Fresh Coconut 'therefore it qualifies as AI' Nope, These are fairly recent terms and not from a programmers perspective. Regardless there is no intelligence, just thousands of rules, i.e expert systems designed to do a task. There is absolutely no reason to use the term 'intelligence'.
@Fresh Coconut I agree, but it's a complex argument definitely not suitable for a RU-vid comment section. I maintain that there is nothing created by man that can even come close to be call intelligent in any capacity unless we start redefining words. As a programmer (since the mid 90's) the term AI is a fad and basically meaningless to anyone who works in the field. No human creation has passed the Turing test, and applying brute force tactics is not a solution
To be honest when I clicked on this video I thought they were actually talking about a robot someday just walking up to a whiteboard and figuring out the solution to creating a viable fusion reactor itself. XD
I'm curious about the scalability of fusion for spaceflight. I don't know much about it, but I get the impression it's much easier to scale fission reactors down (Like kilopower).
Fusion is the "holy grail" of alternative energy, but if we can't keep it up for more than mere milliseconds, we still have a long way to go. But I hope this new programming code helps with the research.
Dude, I was scrolling through the comments and actually audibly LOLed when I saw yours. Well done Sir. (although I think Fusion is going to be out before HL3... for sure.)
Yeah, I remember how, when I was a kid, reading science magazines, the official estimation was that it was 50 years away. Now, 30 years later, it is still 50 years away, according to recent estimations I've seen.
Does gravitational attraction function works under fusion reactor as it works under suns corona territory? I think, to work fusion properly there must be a tremendous attraction force, what sun does to planets.
AI is an extremely broad term. I can make a bot to play tic-tac-toe and it will be AI. The bot doesn't even have to be good at the game but it would still be AI. This fusion reactor definitely uses AI.
For everyone asking, a startup is the state of a company until it has finished its research and starts making money out of it (by starting a production line of a product or launchinga service). So, as long as funding is given, startups can continue to exist. Researches in the Fusion Tech took, take and will take years to complete... Until someone gets it.
Yes, we will see it in our lifetime because the technology to keep us alive indefinitely will be developed before Fusion will so we have a lifetime of forever to wait for it.
The Nobel prize winning way to cool atoms with a laser was given to an AI. It figured it out in a fraction of the time, and figured out other ways the physicists didn't consider.
The reason for the net loss is because the energy output required to contain the plasma via electromagnetic fields is not as efficient, or as strong as the gravitational field produced by the sun due to it's mass, "which no device on earth can reproduce." and since the gravity is a consequence of it's mass, it doesn't produce or contribute a net loss of energy to it's internal Dynamo just to contain it. Not to mention, even with modern equipment, the waste heat from such a device wastes as much energy trying to contain it than what can be produced. That's why there's a net loss.
Fusion theory bureaucracy run amok (in my opinion). People stick to similar models to get funding even though they look like longshots. Will be the most expensive technology to run and maintain even after it's been solved.
@@piotrd.4850 Deuterium-tritium fusion has a energy density of 3.38 x 10^8 MJ/kg. Uranium varies from 8.6x10^7 MJ/kg to 1.44x10^8 MJ/kg. This means fusion has a energy density between 2 to 4 times more than uranium, this makes it the most energy dense form of power generation even with 50% losses.
We already have fusion energy. It's called the sun. You can say, it's a fusion reactor, but at a safe distance. We just have to learn how to use it, in a big way...
@Hernando Malinche You're right about the sun. All the rest, I see it as isseus that have to be solved. And they can be solved, I'm sure about that. I don't think we have continue to rely on fossil fuels. I believe there is a solution to every problem. Maybe we don't see it right away or we don't like the solution, but we can do it... :)
There IS a way to use the Sun's energy to generate electricity CHEAPLY without any storage costs by using the temperature difference in the tropical oceans. seasolarpower.com/
I'm trying to bake cakes with a candle fire and tin can. With the help of machine learning, I will figure out the right distance to put the can so I can make the perfect cake.
Michl Binderbauer, the CEO of TAE, recently said they were 5 years away form commercialization while talking at UCI. I have listened to a number of Michl's talks and he sounds highly credible. That being said, I have not seen any place where he provided details on this 5 year time line.
Seeing all the "20 years is a start up?" comments just make me realize how short human life is. Yes, 20 years can just be a start up, scientific discoveries don't have time, and time is just an illusion, it just helps us organize our short mortal lives.
@@briandiehl9257 I know that, and yet these guys, having been around for 20 years, havent achieved anything ground breaking - so my question was, how/what are these guys going to achieve or figure out with their limited funding and staff, that ITER and other big projects arent going to do better, or the people there have already thought of and ruled out? I dont get, what their end game is, or what the worth of what they are doing is. - ITER is designed to sustain the plasma for minutes and not just 30 microseconds... Whats the point of a 30 microsecond plasma?
I really hate how the Fukushima reactor is painted so badly. Only one person died due to the reactor failing. The tsunami and earthquake killed the most.
Fukushima was an amazing success story that nobody talks about. It survived a hit way beyond spec before failing. It did fail, but that is a problem of the request of the owner and the requirements of the government, not a failure of the design or contractors.
If it was such a success then why were people forced to permanently evacuate? One person died? the cancer patients probably wouldn't like thier doomed fate downplayed like that. Furthermore the loss of marine life in the Pacific due to radiation is so vast that its impossible to even calculate... but yea.... HUGE success, right? why paint that so badly? Scientific evidence of the destruction, thats why.
Yeah, sure. Let's ignore all the other consequences. Hundreds of thousands of people having to evacuate isn't bad. A lot of them not being able to return isn't bad. Dismantling of the power plant expected to take 40 years isn't bad. Ground water still seeping in and having to be stored in tanks without any idea how to deal with it isn't bad. The government spending the equivalent of hundreds of billions (for a single power plant FFS!) of tax dollars for cleanup isn't bad. WE WANT MORE OF THAT!
The disaster at Fukushima was never about how many people it killed that day, but about the the radioactive pollution it left behind. So it's painted badly because it WAS pretty bad.
Matts Koldewijn and the aftermath of the tsunami and earthquake is cleaned up. Except that one area....... Plus: natural Desasters vs manmade Desaster.
Every time I see something about fusion, it brightens my spirits and then it doesn't. Fusion seems like such a bright light which will guide us into the future, but at the same time, getting to that point is so far away. Scientists joke that fusion is 30 years away every 30 years. You see things about a fusion reactor holding this temperature for this long and think great, we're getting closer until you realize we are nowhere near close.
My older brother works at this facility. Based on what he has explained to me, were a lot closer to achieving sustainable fusion energy than people think. He said at some point hopefully before 2050 there will be a big breakthrough in this technology that will completely change the energy industry.
@@umeshchoudhary6035 I disagree. There's some incredible work being done in the fields of AI. Yes, it may be a bit over-hyped, but there's no reason to say it's not fascinating stuff!
Huh, Foothill Ranch! A sleepy little town just up the road from me. Definitely not a place I would have predicted daily nuclear fusion experiments to be going on.
That's exactly how normal fission reactors, fossil fuel plants, and some solar plants work as well. Turbines are pretty much the most efficient means of converting and producing energy we have.
It's great to know that there people and companies backing such cloudy uncertain technology. At it's current state it's almost a charity. Btw it doesn't matter how old the startup is. By definition a startup is a small company that's trying to do something that's never been done or has been but doing it in a whole new way.
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Pretty cool that you guys found and showed us references outside the company.
why cant they run a genetic algorithm. Randomize the shots, completely different each time, and then do mutations on the survivors, by combining them with other optimal shots? Sooner or later they will have some type of optimization. Then they can run deep learning on this dataset at large to see patterns, and to create new combinations
@@georgc6947 maybe find some way to simulate the reaction with a program. But you're right, man that's unfortunate. Maybe one day when quantum computing gets online we will have enough processing power to rub simulations
@@ImHewg The problem is that they don't seem to have a good computational model of the reactor. If they did, they might indeed be able to simulate the process and use a variety of machine learning techniques. The main problem here is not processing power. I don't see how quantum computing will help either, since it is only more efficient on certain types of problems and not more powerful in general. It is pretty natural to use machine learning in general for problems such as these though, which is also why I don't see anything sensational here.
After months of deliberation and careful, exhaustive, fastidious number crunching, the AI returns a result: "... Nope." "What do you mean, 'NOPE'!?!?" "I mean you're not gonna do it. Go back to fission, pleb."
EAST and W7X have both demonstrated fusion capable plasma containment for about 100 sec. But neither project is set up to handle tritium, which is radioactive.-.
They already exist. Plenty of them in fact. The first test-commercial power plant is under construction already (ITER). All of them try to *maintain* fusion. 30 Years ago it was even trouble to *start* millisecond fusion.
The missing component is and always will be the enormous gravity required to bring the two nuclei close together enough to fuse. Gravity is something that the sun and stars have in abundance, but not us tiny humans.
It is easy to succumb to the notion that fusion energy is 30 years away and always will be after watching bit like this, and I imagine that will be the case until it isn't.
AI is like the big snowball I was told about in my youth.. Oh, it wasn't always big, in fact , it began quite small.. during what they called the "industrial revolution" is when it began growing, and it grew, and grew.. then, evil slithered in, on it's belly, and tried to control the growth of the snowball.. then, the snowball moved, and moved some more.. it was gigantic, by this time, and it grew so fast, in the wrong way, that people not near it, feared it.. there were stories of that snowball, that it got so big, and really it got too big and rolled so fast that it rolled over any and all people, cities, states and countries, in it's path.. the story is told today about the snowball that got so big that it became uncontrollable and still today is making any and all who deal with it sorry, not that it was created, but that it was allowed to grow to the mass that it did.. the snowball is "the government", AI is the snowball on steroids.. and, as a collective, the masses remain silent..
So a 20 year old "start up" with no immediate plans to do anything more than millisecond "shots". Smells like pork barrel spending. They test variables to see what performs better, which doesn't even qualify for machine learning, let alone AI. This was a story made out of nothing.
Hey Jop! It's not fusion itself that we are trying to figure out... smushing bits together to make other bits is fairly well known. What isn't well known is how to scale this up safely and efficiently. Each test has thousands of variables so AI/Machine Learning will be a huge help - and, hopefully, the Optometrist Algorithm will get us there. Thanks for watching! - Cory
Hey! Sorry, I was being facetious - as one often does in the good ol' RU-vid wasteland of comments, but thanks for the informative response nonetheless!
You know, this is like the early stages of when car engines or the first battery was invented. You know like a 5 Hp engine the size of what now could be a 1 000Hp engine or the first computer that was around the sice of a house with only the function of a calculator and now we essentially have a multipurpose supercomputer (with a flashlight) in our pocket that you can communicate with others on the other side of the plannet i you want to. So it's exiting to see the amount of progress we humans are doing as it's no longer some impossible sci-fi movie dream but pretty close to becomming a reallity. If only we were as good at disposing waste or trash the rigth way. You know keeping the ocean clean from plastic and stuff.
You are going have to figure out how to reduce the cost of even turning the thing on in the first place and how to safely deal with contaminated metals from a decommissioned fusion reactor.
Okay, hear me out. Now combine that AI with *blockchain, internet of things, quantum computers and graphene!* You will have a super saiyan, tech god-level fusion reactor by tomorrow - up, running and fully working!
very good documentary film . there is one problem , too much camera movement . please keep the camera steady try to use tripod for the camera . every time you move the camera its looks very amateur ! please use tripod for the camera its more professional and please don't move the camera !
It would be interesting to know how much more efficient the process got over the years and what methodes were used to step it up, just to see the progress.
AI could make sense only if fusion could be theorized enough to run offline tests in order to elaborate a strategy. Fusion however was never elaborated enough to know what exactly makes it happen.
Fusion power is perfectly feasible TODAY. The only problem is that the plants would have to be gigantic, with lake sized primary containment vessels. The main problem isn't containment; it is harnessing the immense amount of energy released. Continuous fusion is far beyond our ability, and my be impossible on a planetary scale, but pulsed fusion has been done many times.
Neither AI nor ML are algorithms. AI is a branch of Informatics that tries to mimic intelligent behaviour and ML is the set of techniques employed in enabling a machine to adapt to the environment it's working on. An algorithm is a sequence of instructions.
If I ever invested in Nuclear Fusion, then it wouldn't be for clean energy because that can come from the wind and sunlight; rather, it'd be to render helium an affordable, renewable resource. I want that not so much for balloons as rather for airships.
Tri-alpha’s approach is intriguing, but we have already had a breakthrough in nuclear energy. The Molten Salt Reactor Experiment in the 1960s is capable of being scaled up for power production today, and I think it represents an astounding breakthrough in energy production and nuclear safety. Future MSRs will probably prove instrumental for climate mitigation.
